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November 30, 2020, 01:31:36 AM |
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Hello I had collection paperwallet.
Does your guys have suggest to do cover paperwallet?
Does laminating it's good idea? I'm not sure about it, might that's could force the security password.
Sorry for not good language, wish you guys understand what's my point and reason why I've not good language.
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November 30, 2020, 01:38:37 AM |
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Hello I had collection paperwallet.
Does your guys have suggest to do cover paperwallet?
Does laminating it's good idea? I'm not sure about it, might that's could force the security password.
Sorry for not good language, wish you guys understand what's my point and reason why I've not good language.
More important is to keep those notes in an area relatively uniform temperature and humidity out of direct sunlight. And to store them I would suggest you use mylar holder so that you would not have acid exposure.
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November 30, 2020, 02:24:07 PM |
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Hello I had collection paperwallet.
Does your guys have suggest to do cover paperwallet?
Does laminating it's good idea? I'm not sure about it, might that's could force the security password.
Sorry for not good language, wish you guys understand what's my point and reason why I've not good language.
I would not laminate a paper wallet..
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November 30, 2020, 02:59:28 PM |
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cold use a seedplate or washers with a punch - make a back up of your seed phrase and store it safely - metal is more likely to survive a fire or a flood vs paper.
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December 03, 2020, 04:42:22 PM |
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using a good quality paper and ink should be more than enough to create a durable paper as long as it is stored correctly. i already have papers (not bitcoin related) that are about 10 years old with writings on them without any damage or degradation.
but the important things in storing paper wallets in my experience are their encryption and creation of multiple backups stored separately. so if there was a disaster like fire and you lost one, the others could be used to recover funds.
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December 03, 2020, 06:21:53 PM |
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If you can add something which can prevent from both fire and water, they would be a good edition. Otherwise, none actually makes much sense. Nevertheless, you can laminate as well if you find it helpful anyway. I just have printed and kept it in my secure places.
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You should avoid lamination as it could be counterproductive and result in speeding up the degradation process. The best and safest way to save a wallet seed or a private key is to engrave it on a metal plate. It might be a bit more expensive, though. If using papers is your only option then make few copies and store them in different places and check them regularly.
You should avoid lamination as it could be counterproductive and result in speeding up the degradation process.
Any proof on that? this: Unfortunately, lamination was once considered a viable conservation method (this is likely where lamination misconceptions originate) as it was thought to strengthen and protect fragile paper. Over time however, it was discovered that lamination is in fact destructive. Not only does the application of high heat and pressure damage documents, laminate plastics will also "off-gas," causing a chemical reaction with materials sealed inside. Furthermore, the adhesives used in lamination are typically acidic and can thus adversely affected inks, causing them to bleed beyond their edges ("halo" effect) in printed and written material. Each of these factors cause and/or accelerate the deterioration of paper documents.
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December 04, 2020, 01:22:26 AM |
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You should avoid lamination as it could be counterproductive and result in speeding up the degradation process. The best and safest way to save a wallet seed or a private key is to engrave it on a metal plate. It might be a bit more expensive, though. If using papers is your only option then make few copies and store them in different places and check them regularely.
Store your bitcoin seed / private key safely (Water, Fire, Shock-proof)Lamination is better than write key down on paper sheet but you are totally right that lamination is expensive and it does not permanently exist. Metal plates are better than lamination but the cost is expensive too and they even can not 100% protect your seed or keys. Who can find anything can 100% survive through any kind of disaster or catastrophe. Paper, lamination, metal plates, USB, harddrive, etc, any tool is used store your private key/ seed backups need to be put into another safe protective device such as Vaults. Vaults in turn need to be placed in as safest locations as possible. Double or tripple protections for your private keys/ seeds.
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December 04, 2020, 06:10:03 AM |
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Hello I had collection paperwallet.
Does your guys have suggest to do cover paperwallet?
Does laminating it's good idea? I'm not sure about it, might that's could force the security password.
Sorry for not good language, wish you guys understand what's my point and reason why I've not good language.
Do not use laminating because the words can be very blurry to read, I suggest finding a safe box with key combinations to store such paper wallets or find a strong book and write the paper wallet recovery seed in between the book, I do this all the time
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If you're talking about the 12-24 word backup, then I'd suggest etching the words in steel. You know, to prevent damages from water and fire and stuff: https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/If you're talking about a literal paper wallet though, just place it in a waterproof Ziploc bag, and place it in a fire-proof safe. Word of caution though, paper wallets aren't for everyone as they can really be complicated to made in a way that your keys actually couldn't be leaked. There's so much stuff a newbie could get wrong in the process that it's just far safer to get a hardware wallet.
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Paper wallets consists of a barcode and your recovery seed, you can write the recovery seed on the paper wallet down to a safe location and burn the paper wallets if they are too many in number, or you can just decide to keep all the paper wallets in a single location, my advice is to find a strong stainless steel and carve the recovery seeds on the steel, it will be more harder to destroy this way
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I don't see any big point in lamination - you either use some metal medium to make your wallet practically indestructible, or you just use a piece of paper and regularly refresh it let's say once or twice per year. In any case, you should have multiple copies of your wallet in separate places, so no single incident can lock you out of your coins.
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I don't really see the point of a physical copy. It's vulnerable and a hassle to store. You can store the same information properly encrypted on multiple micro SD cards. No one will ever know what's on there and they're much smaller. Just make sure you have plenty of them as they're not very durable.
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December 05, 2020, 03:59:27 AM |
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It's up to op if op wanted to laminate a paper or other ways to store the key privately. Metal, paper, usb can also be used to store the keys. I have seen laminated paper that are still exist and still no damage and exactly look the same as before it is laminated plus it will survive for long if no accident happen like fire.
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Does laminating it's good idea? Seems, the comment above isn't recommended to you laminate your paper. I know the purpose to avoid your paper from water. you can use a phone waterproof case (replace the phone with your paper) like the picture below; image source; amazon.comImage as an example, you have to search a better than that.
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I don't really see the point of a physical copy. It's vulnerable and a hassle to store. You can store the same information properly encrypted on multiple micro SD cards. No one will ever know what's on there and they're much smaller. Just make sure you have plenty of them as they're not very durable. Steel is pretty resilient, typical house fires don't reach temperatures high enough to melt steel (~1400 deg. C). I'd be a little concerned with relying on only one type of medium as a BTC wallet backup, especially one of questionable data permanence.
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December 05, 2020, 02:23:02 PM |
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If you will use something to protect your paper wallet from being broken, drained and burnt out then go for it. The important thing in using a paper wallet is the protection of it from those things, for me laminated wallet is good, it can protect it from being drained and will be hard to be cut. Keeping it in a safe place would still be the best possible thing that you may do in your paper wallet, do not forget as well as having a back up.
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December 05, 2020, 02:50:08 PM |
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There are water and fireproof boxes available on the marketplaces which is especially made to store cryptocurrency backup seeds so you can go for it but my opinion will be a soft copy on an encrypted offline drive is better than hardcopy.
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December 05, 2020, 09:42:54 PM |
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Laminating it won't do good. Well, for water it could be protected but it's not that durable as what you're thinking op. Like eco said about words can be blurry in the long run. The metal plates are good suggestion but I haven't tried it.
The way I keep my paper wallet or with its seeds is only keeping it like a bookmark at a good and safe location. But I might do the same as other suggested about engraving it to a metal plate or dog tag whichever is good for me.
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