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Author Topic: Gamblers! What is your excuse to avoid a game with 0% House Edge?  (Read 1720 times)
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December 08, 2020, 01:47:44 PM
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It is a good thing that the casino has the initiative to launch a game with 0 house edge. But it is quite not convincing as many gamblers think that there's always a house edge in the casino. The reason is that the casino is a business and it needs to win and perhaps, have a higher chance than the gamblers as they need to operate for long. It was also accepted that's why most of the gamblers are just testing their luck knowing that the house edge is higher than what they could have. - With regards to marketing, it is way better to expand the marketing, the development of the games, and to build the excitement of the players. It will play a very important role in attracting new gamblers to play. I can say, even if gamblers are losing, if they feel that the game is genuine, they will play it again and again without really understanding statistics and numbers.
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December 10, 2020, 04:48:54 PM
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I guess my reason would be I just don't like the games and I don't trust the site that much.
I gamble to have fun and most of their games doesn't excite me so I would still go to my long time gambling sites.
Well, I believe house edge doesn't matter as much as people sometime think because if house edge was such a prominent factor in deciding which game to play and wager then all these third party slots games would have been closed by now. There are players who will gamble all day on slots despite knowing the usual house edge on slots is around 5% and they have the option for dice which works at 1% but because slots have a attracting layout and refreshing to play, usually players opt for slots despite the big house edge.

Having low or no house edge will be great but the questions remains the same, is the casino able to create games that are refreshing enough to attract the players? Because we all are bored with the classic dice game, no matter how easy and fair it is.
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December 10, 2020, 07:48:06 PM
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It is a good thing that the casino has the initiative to launch a game with 0 house edge. But it is quite not convincing as many gamblers think that there's always a house edge in the casino. The reason is that the casino is a business and it needs to win and perhaps, have a higher chance than the gamblers as they need to operate for long. It was also accepted that's why most of the gamblers are just testing their luck knowing that the house edge is higher than what they could have. - With regards to marketing, it is way better to expand the marketing, the development of the games, and to build the excitement of the players. It will play a very important role in attracting new gamblers to play. I can say, even if gamblers are losing, if they feel that the game is genuine, they will play it again and again without really understanding statistics and numbers.

Zero house edge would really be just good for temporary basis but if you do talk about on a permanent one then its impossible for it to be implemented out for too long for a gambling businesses.
This is where they do get their revenue and imposing no fee will really put out on thinking on how the heck they would able to generate profits?

It wont really sustainable in real talks thats why its hard that they wont really be making changes later on.TO those factors that you had mentioned then theres no doubt
and it should really be considered from time to time.

In regards to the game being offered on where op is wondering on why theres no interest even if its sets to 0% house edge then its because the
game itself isnt really interesting at all.

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December 12, 2020, 06:57:04 AM
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It will play a very important role in attracting new gamblers to play. I can say, even if gamblers are losing, if they feel that the game is genuine, they will play it again and again without really understanding statistics and numbers.
Also house edge is not always indicative of how much we are gonna lose. You can check your loses and your loses are way higher than the house edge, what I am saying is - do you always lose 0.01 BTC after wagering 1 BTC? of course not we tend to lose it much quicker so house edge doesn't exactly determine how much we will lose.

If people know about that, they will not choose that site, instead of searching for the other reliable gambling site. They are willing to spend their time getting the right gambling site than to play on the site they don't trust. Most people who have their favorite gambling games will use their old gambling sites rather than select the other sites.
Most casinos have a provably fair script which you can use to verify the results so trust is not a big issue for anyone I suspect in crypto based casinos although there are trust issues about withdrawals and other stuffs.
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December 12, 2020, 07:20:23 AM
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I guess my reason would be I just don't like the games and I don't trust the site that much.
I gamble to have fun and most of their games doesn't excite me so I would still go to my long time gambling sites.

Doesn't make sense. Almost all games are similar lmao, just the UI and fun doesn't make sense if you have to choose between a 0% house-edge and a non-0% house-edge as in a casino with non-0% house-edge you are guaranteed to lose in long run. But if you gamble just for fun then might be reason that you can afford to lose money for entertainment. But yeah, if you want just profit, 0% house-edge is what you want.
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December 12, 2020, 07:59:10 AM
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I guess my reason would be I just don't like the games and I don't trust the site that much.
I gamble to have fun and most of their games doesn't excite me so I would still go to my long time gambling sites.

Doesn't make sense. Almost all games are similar lmao, just the UI and fun doesn't make sense if you have to choose between a 0% house-edge and a non-0% house-edge as in a casino with non-0% house-edge you are guaranteed to lose in long run. But if you gamble just for fun then might be reason that you can afford to lose money for entertainment. But yeah, if you want just profit, 0% house-edge is what you want.
The question is the probability fairness of 0% house edge ,they may put extra percent for them to make you lose so they are also the same,you can play in with house edge longer before you lose while in 0 house edge you might end sooner.
I guess my reason would be I just don't like the games and I don't trust the site that much.
I gamble to have fun and most of their games doesn't excite me so I would still go to my long time gambling sites.
Well trust is important in each site that we are playing and if we are in doubt then we better not  go and play since there are so many sites that offers the same game in which legit and trustworthy .

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December 12, 2020, 09:56:20 AM
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I guess my reason would be I just don't like the games and I don't trust the site that much.
I gamble to have fun and most of their games doesn't excite me so I would still go to my long time gambling sites.

Doesn't make sense. Almost all games are similar lmao, just the UI and fun doesn't make sense if you have to choose between a 0% house-edge and a non-0% house-edge as in a casino with non-0% house-edge you are guaranteed to lose in long run. But if you gamble just for fun then might be reason that you can afford to lose money for entertainment. But yeah, if you want just profit, 0% house-edge is what you want.
LOL, yeah right there buddy what's most important is the platform itself and the games to be played. With that promo having a zero percent house-edge does only mean that you need more traffic in your site. Well, that is not the case of a certain we may call a good platform for gambling. In my opinion a good gambling platform has a decent, good and working  interface featuring what a gamblers need may it be in a casino or sports betting. I had been promoting betnomi but I am a gambler and use the platform too and nothing I can say about this gambling platform except q very nice and good platform.
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December 12, 2020, 10:15:44 AM
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The idea is good, but the realization is slow.

I'm ready to pay the 1% house edge but to play with my tempo. E.g. I find it annoying to wait for a new block after every single bet.

IMO people want action in gambling and EOS based on-chain results are better for this. 

Completely agree with you! It's slow, it's just one game... why do we need any excuse at all! We play on sites that meet our demands, simply as that!
The entire crypto is going through rapid growth, we can say the same for crypto casinos! Many alts, chains, casinos...all of them are trying to attract people with something! Of course not all of them can be trusted, some casinos are scams, and they don't last long, while trustworthy casinos grow with the market!
Except action and excitement in gambling, people like entertainment! You get all 3 when you play your favorite game! So maybe this casino should add more interesting game, and some of us will stop by and try it!

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December 12, 2020, 10:51:11 AM
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In a 0% house edge, You get more opportunities to save your stake in contrast with the traditional gambling club. Indeed, even you lose the game, there's still a high likelihood that you get your stake back or some portion. I don't understand why you want to avoid it since it offers better winning possibilities. 0% house edge games gave equivalent possibilities even you lose there's no much agony of losing

Mind Giving specific gambling site that offers this 0% House edge that Gives stakes?i have no idea about them since i only play in traditional Sites that has minimal House edge so i want to venture this one if legit and truthful.
I guess my reason would be I just don't like the games and I don't trust the site that much.
I gamble to have fun and most of their games doesn't excite me so I would still go to my long time gambling sites.
Which sites are those mate?like the first i quoted there are no mentioned specific Site to check about the claims.

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December 12, 2020, 12:57:30 PM
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After running 4 years on Bitcoin blockchain, Chain-Bet.com has been re-written to run on Litecoin blockchain. It is a game that asks a simple question: What would be last digit of the block hash that includes your transaction? Players guess last digit of the block hash and bet on that. If the guess is correct, player gets back 16 times of the bet amount. As a promotional offer after our re-launch, the game is now operating at 0% House Edge.

But, since our relaunch on September 01, 2020, we have not seen similar enthusiasm like we experienced 4 years back. This is somewhat disappointing. A provably fair game with 4 years reputation offering 0% House Edge is rare in gambling industry. Instead of burning money for advertisement, we are giving it back to our gamblers through 0% House Edge. So, what is stopping you from wagering on this game like before?

Constructive criticism is welcome. Smiley

There are no excuse gamblers wants to play in 0% house edge but the gambling site you mentioned is not the kind of gamblers wants to play with I thought it's a dice game or slots or anything like that, but like all the other who posted in your thread, you need to market it some players including me are not aware of it.

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December 12, 2020, 02:42:26 PM
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Hmm ... I wonder how a casino can exist with zero fees? Any project requires spending on infrastructure and it costs a certain amount of money. Perhaps your project receives payments from the players in some other way? Or am I misunderstanding something.

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December 12, 2020, 03:40:33 PM
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A game with 0% house edge is good, and I don’t see anything wrong about to make me avoid to play it. Although the problem would may be about the website and the game, which is not attractive enough to drive people in. In my opinion if this would be applied to dice game or other known casino game, many gamblers will surely be encouraged to play it.

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To be honest when I check the site it is not attractive and not entertaining. The interface is quite plain and the game is old. We all know there are many gambling site these days and for you to be competitive you must have to attract users to keep coming back in your site. Even the offer with 0% house edge users will still play if they find it entertaining and profitable since players are into enjoyment than winnings. Might as well change the service or game that you offer in your site.
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December 12, 2020, 09:12:45 PM
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Constructive criticism is welcome. Smiley

Even if you look at the answers in this topic, the main question becomes clear. How can your casino exist with 0% payouts? I think that for most players this is not clear and they think that there may be some deception in your casino and this may discourage many players from playing on your site.

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December 12, 2020, 09:29:18 PM
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Constructive criticism is welcome. Smiley

Even if you look at the answers in this topic, the main question becomes clear. How can your casino exist with 0% payouts? I think that for most players this is not clear and they think that there may be some deception in your casino and this may discourage many players from playing on your site.
They had mentioned that they had set out 0% house edge to give back something to the community which is really hard to believe considering that
gambling site is a business which means you would need to make up some revenue to be sustainable in long term.

Hence, this one been offering zero house edge which is impossible for it to sustain for longer runs but somehow when I do check out
on what type of game this is then I can say that it isn't surprising that majority wont really be interested to it.

I don't see blockchain games to be that attractive.

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December 12, 2020, 11:58:45 PM
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I don't see blockchain games to be that attractive.

I don't see it either, people are gambling on two things they want to be entertained and they want to win depends on the priority the players, will opted to play in casino with many games like dice slot baccarat poker, something that your site is not offering to their clients, you can get some players who's main goal is just to win money.

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December 12, 2020, 11:59:53 PM
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I don't see blockchain games to be that attractive.

I don't see it either, people are gambling on two things they want to be entertained and they want to win depends on the priority the players, will opted to play in casino with many games like dice slot baccarat poker, something that your site is not offering to their clients, you can get some players who's main goal is just to win money.

At some point, gamblers want to have fun. And his site by any means is far from that. Maybe some will play at the start but in the long run, I don't think they will stick to it. Unless, the owner will innovate their site and offer other games.
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December 13, 2020, 05:02:02 AM
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At some point, gamblers want to have fun. And his site by any means is far from that. Maybe some will play at the start but in the long run, I don't think they will stick to it. Unless, the owner will innovate their site and offer other games.
If gamblers want to search for fun, they don't have to think much about strategy, chasing the win money, and even 0% house edge because they want to enjoy the gambling games. It would help if you did not play the games for a long time because that can lead you to get a high pressure to recover your loss. If that happens, I am afraid you won't listen to your heart to stop playing the game, and you will use more money to recover the losses. But the site can offer to give 0% house edge to their members to attract more players to come to their site.

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December 13, 2020, 04:54:12 PM
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I can see the views that are pointed out here and I must say that they all have sense.
But do you happen to know any specific casino sites that offers 0% house edge?
If anyone knows some, please do enlighten us to fill in the context of this thread.

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December 13, 2020, 05:01:42 PM
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At some point, gamblers want to have fun. And his site by any means is far from that. Maybe some will play at the start but in the long run, I don't think they will stick to it. Unless, the owner will innovate their site and offer other games.
If gamblers want to search for fun, they don't have to think much about strategy, chasing the win money, and even 0% house edge because they want to enjoy the gambling games. It would help if you did not play the games for a long time because that can lead you to get a high pressure to recover your loss. If that happens, I am afraid you won't listen to your heart to stop playing the game, and you will use more money to recover the losses. But the site can offer to give 0% house edge to their members to attract more players to come to their site.
0% house edge means nothing despite the fact that it's the greatest advantage over other casinos. You have to acknowledge that 0% house edge will finally kill your business in just a few days/months.
Another example - It doesn't matter if you make very high quality Cognac, you can't beat Hennesy without proper marketing. And in this case, OP can't beat any casino with 0% house edge and website that looks like to be made by a two years old child that was just randomly clicking on buttons. User Interface plays a huge role for company! It's a look that attracts you.

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