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Author Topic: Gamblers! What is your excuse to avoid a game with 0% House Edge?  (Read 1610 times)
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December 13, 2020, 05:12:37 PM
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I don't see blockchain games to be that attractive.
I don't see it either, people are gambling on two things they want to be entertained and they want to win depends on the priority the players, will opted to play in casino with many games like dice slot baccarat poker, something that your site is not offering to their clients, you can get some players who's main goal is just to win money.
At some point, gamblers want to have fun. And his site by any means is far from that. Maybe some will play at the start but in the long run, I don't think they will stick to it. Unless, the owner will innovate their site and offer other games.
Well that's true talk, from forum members requested was that, the casino should ensure to make the game look interesting for gamblers as the current game on the platform doesn't look attractive to gamblers. Personally, the gambling platform interface doesn't look appealing either, as such won't attract gamblers, hope to see more games are be added.

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December 13, 2020, 09:32:24 PM
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I don't see blockchain games to be that attractive.
I don't see it either, people are gambling on two things they want to be entertained and they want to win depends on the priority the players, will opted to play in casino with many games like dice slot baccarat poker, something that your site is not offering to their clients, you can get some players who's main goal is just to win money.
At some point, gamblers want to have fun. And his site by any means is far from that. Maybe some will play at the start but in the long run, I don't think they will stick to it. Unless, the owner will innovate their site and offer other games.
Well that's true talk, from forum members requested was that, the casino should ensure to make the game look interesting for gamblers as the current game on the platform doesn't look attractive to gamblers. Personally, the gambling platform interface doesn't look appealing either, as such won't attract gamblers, hope to see more games are be added.

You wont really be expecting something fancy styles with a blockchain based kind of website where you do just simply choose up those characters or numbers
that whom you do see that will able to come out on such hash.

Adding other games wont really be a solution because it would always be a challenge on how you do able to get players into your site even this one will be offering some
dice games and slots then it will really able to move the tendency for it to fail but the difference of this one is that the community doesn't really
care too much of blockchain games existence.

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December 13, 2020, 10:21:53 PM
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They had mentioned that they had set out 0% house edge to give back something to the community which is really hard to believe considering that
gambling site is a business which means you would need to make up some revenue to be sustainable in long term.

Hence, this one been offering zero house edge which is impossible for it to sustain for longer runs but somehow when I do check out
on what type of game this is then I can say that it isn't surprising that majority wont really be interested to it.

I don't see blockchain games to be that attractive.

Any player understands how the casino functions and knows why the casino should take its commission. Paradoxical as it may seem, favorable conditions are often frightening because the players do not understand how such conditions can be offered. I think that any such advantageous offer should be accompanied by a detailed explanation of why and how such an offer became possible.

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December 13, 2020, 10:45:43 PM
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Okay. Since the pandemic many people have become more perceptive of scam projects and all, sometimes too perceptive. I understand that your intentions are pure in trying to give back something to your community, but then again you have to understand that it has to be proven in some way or another, otherwise it would just be a baseless claim which may even ruin your project for other future gamblers. Or maybe next time, fund a research team to create feasibility studies to make sure your every move is calculated so you don't lose stuff like these.
I can see the views that are pointed out here and I must say that they all have sense.
But do you happen to know any specific casino sites that offers 0% house edge?
If anyone knows some, please do enlighten us to fill in the context of this thread.
The site he's, working on is the one offering 0% house edge to give something back to the community, what he's trying to understand is why is it that the site visit and gambling ratio volume still low despite doing such a bold move that may cost them a fortune.
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December 13, 2020, 11:50:52 PM
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@OP, the times were different 4 years back and BTC wasn't even $5k at that time I guess, so alts were just nuts. Now, when things have changed, everyone is trying to collect as much crypto as possible. In the middle of that, if you ask why people are not gambling at your site even with a 0% house edge, I'd just say that they're too scared to bet on a game that gives a 16x "only" when their block hash's last letter/number will match their prediction. For that, one can't go and make multiple selections all at once (maybe reduce the prize money 4 times if one selects more than 1 letter/number). Try to make it more easy for the gamblers as we will be happy with some house edge but can't go and bet big knowing that the price of these valuable coins can rise any moment from now.

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December 13, 2020, 11:59:15 PM
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They had mentioned that they had set out 0% house edge to give back something to the community which is really hard to believe considering that
gambling site is a business which means you would need to make up some revenue to be sustainable in long term.

Hence, this one been offering zero house edge which is impossible for it to sustain for longer runs but somehow when I do check out
on what type of game this is then I can say that it isn't surprising that majority wont really be interested to it.

I don't see blockchain games to be that attractive.

Any player understands how the casino functions and knows why the casino should take its commission. Paradoxical as it may seem, favorable conditions are often frightening because the players do not understand how such conditions can be offered. I think that any such advantageous offer should be accompanied by a detailed explanation of why and how such an offer became possible.

Do we really believe into this kind of line?

we are giving it back to our gamblers through 0% House Edge.

This would really raises some questions because as mentioned.Its impossible for a house on not to make money.
There's no point for some operation if you aren't earning something.

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December 14, 2020, 04:02:24 AM
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At some point, gamblers want to have fun. And his site by any means is far from that. Maybe some will play at the start but in the long run, I don't think they will stick to it. Unless, the owner will innovate their site and offer other games.
If gamblers want to search for fun, they don't have to think much about strategy, chasing the win money, and even 0% house edge because they want to enjoy the gambling games. It would help if you did not play the games for a long time because that can lead you to get a high pressure to recover your loss. If that happens, I am afraid you won't listen to your heart to stop playing the game, and you will use more money to recover the losses. But the site can offer to give 0% house edge to their members to attract more players to come to their site.

It doesn't matter even the site offer 0% house edge, once the gambler aggressively trying to recover all their loses it will end up losing more money than coping up with loses, if you miscalculated your funds and you don't know how to work with your bankroll chances that you'll lose more will highly anticipated.

0% house edge indeed nothing to affect anything if gamblers can't control their emotions,
also nothing if gamblers also doesn't care about it and only looking to have some comfort and
enjoyment inside the house.

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December 14, 2020, 04:39:30 AM
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I don't see blockchain games to be that attractive.
I don't see it either, people are gambling on two things they want to be entertained and they want to win depends on the priority the players, will opted to play in casino with many games like dice slot baccarat poker, something that your site is not offering to their clients, you can get some players who's main goal is just to win money.
At some point, gamblers want to have fun. And his site by any means is far from that. Maybe some will play at the start but in the long run, I don't think they will stick to it. Unless, the owner will innovate their site and offer other games.
Well that's true talk, from forum members requested was that, the casino should ensure to make the game look interesting for gamblers as the current game on the platform doesn't look attractive to gamblers. Personally, the gambling platform interface doesn't look appealing either, as such won't attract gamblers, hope to see more games are be added.
if the interface does not look good so what more the whole site,if there is one thing that must be attractive then it must be the interface before the whole system.
But of course the fairness of the site is always important ,But talking about 0% house edge ,what i think is that they need to atleast be open to the players how would it works and what is the advantage and disadvantage compared to with edge sites.









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December 14, 2020, 10:30:45 AM
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Do we really believe into this kind of line?

we are giving it back to our gamblers through 0% House Edge.

This would really raises some questions because as mentioned.Its impossible for a house on not to make money.
There's no point for some operation if you aren't earning something.

OP has been around for a while and has advertised extensively, so I don't necessarily think that he is trying to exit scam (obviously, i could be proven wrong).

I just think that it's completely the wrong way to market your game. Gambling is supposed to be appealing and fast paced, not a mechanical process with a mediocre interface.

I've been saying this again and again - gambling is entertainment. If the user doesn't find the game entertaining, even if you give him 0% house edge they don't have any further incentive to try out a game given the other risks and variances associated with it.
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Any player understands how the casino functions and knows why the casino should take its commission. Paradoxical as it may seem, favorable conditions are often frightening because the players do not understand how such conditions can be offered. I think that any such advantageous offer should be accompanied by a detailed explanation of why and how such an offer became possible.

Do we really believe into this kind of line?

 Grin I understand that there are many fools in gambling (as in any other activity), but usually fools run out of money very quickly, so I still consider this business from the point of view of deals with smart people. We must focus on smart people. And from the point of view of smart people, such proposals seem suspicious.

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December 14, 2020, 01:22:58 PM
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Any player understands how the casino functions and knows why the casino should take its commission. Paradoxical as it may seem, favorable conditions are often frightening because the players do not understand how such conditions can be offered. I think that any such advantageous offer should be accompanied by a detailed explanation of why and how such an offer became possible.

Do we really believe into this kind of line?

 Grin I understand that there are many fools in gambling (as in any other activity), but usually fools run out of money very quickly, so I still consider this business from the point of view of deals with smart people. We must focus on smart people. And from the point of view of smart people, such proposals seem suspicious.

Very well said, fools lose money in casinos, I mean a lot of money as they underestimate the risk in gambling, while I'm not saying that the smart people wins, at least they understand the risk so if they'll lose, they will only lose within their limit.

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December 15, 2020, 03:21:47 AM
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0% house edge means nothing despite the fact that it's the greatest advantage over other casinos. You have to acknowledge that 0% house edge will finally kill your business in just a few days/months.
Another example - It doesn't matter if you make very high quality Cognac, you can't beat Hennesy without proper marketing. And in this case, OP can't beat any casino with 0% house edge and website that looks like to be made by a two years old child that was just randomly clicking on buttons. User Interface plays a huge role for company! It's a look that attracts you.
It is right that 0% house edge can kill our business, but if the casino thinks that way can attract more gamblers to come, they will not have a problem because they will not use 0% house edge for a long time. They will use that for promotion only, and I think many gamblers will be interested in visiting and playing on that site. If the popular site offers that to many gamblers and promotes it on their social media and other websites, they will get more gamblers to come to their site.

It doesn't matter even the site offer 0% house edge, once the gambler aggressively trying to recover all their loses it will end up losing more money than coping up with loses, if you miscalculated your funds and you don't know how to work with your bankroll chances that you'll lose more will highly anticipated.

0% house edge indeed nothing to affect anything if gamblers can't control their emotions, also nothing if gamblers also doesn't care about it and only looking to have some comfort and enjoyment inside the house.
That will depend on the gambler itself if the gambler knows that if they are still playing on the casino that uses those offers, the gambler's chance to lose more money will become bigger. The gamblers will think that it is their chance to get the win while the casino offers a 0% house edge. That can make the gambler lose control of their emotions, and they will forget about limitations that they already use.

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December 16, 2020, 09:55:27 PM
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Even if you look at the answers in this topic, the main question becomes clear. How can your casino exist with 0% payouts? I think that for most players this is not clear and they think that there may be some deception in your casino and this may discourage many players from playing on your site.
They had mentioned that they had set out 0% house edge to give back something to the community which is really hard to believe considering that
gambling site is a business which means you would need to make up some revenue to be sustainable in long term.

Hence, this one been offering zero house edge which is impossible for it to sustain for longer runs but somehow when I do check out
on what type of game this is then I can say that it isn't surprising that majority wont really be interested to it.

I don't see blockchain games to be that attractive.

I thought the same thing. Creating and maintaining a website costs money. They also need to pay money to employees. Therefore, a gambling site should earn money. If a zero casino advantage is set, then there is some other earnings that players are not told about. Personally, this fact would stop me from playing on this site.
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Even if you look at the answers in this topic, the main question becomes clear. How can your casino exist with 0% payouts? I think that for most players this is not clear and they think that there may be some deception in your casino and this may discourage many players from playing on your site.
They had mentioned that they had set out 0% house edge to give back something to the community which is really hard to believe considering that
gambling site is a business which means you would need to make up some revenue to be sustainable in long term.

Hence, this one been offering zero house edge which is impossible for it to sustain for longer runs but somehow when I do check out
on what type of game this is then I can say that it isn't surprising that majority wont really be interested to it.

I don't see blockchain games to be that attractive.

I thought the same thing. Creating and maintaining a website costs money. They also need to pay money to employees. Therefore, a gambling site should earn money. If a zero casino advantage is set, then there is some other earnings that players are not told about. Personally, this fact would stop me from playing on this site.

Running one would really be having an expense.This kind of site doesnt really need employees to pay but you can only run for yourself which means
you dont need to spend up that much compared to those casinos which does have lots of games integrated to it but to think that this site
does still have a bit of expense like maintaining the site ex. domain and other things which really involves money and if you do make out
a business that isnt really gaining revenue or profit then you would definite pull off some funds into your pocket.So its really pointless
on running one if you arent really making money.

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December 16, 2020, 10:41:21 PM
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It is that because gamblers are not comfortable with your site and your proposals. Who could think that it was at 0% House edge while the other games have it? How it is possible that you will be making any profit from this?

I don't think it is helping to attract gamblers and as an effective strategy but what I take for this is that it only gives a question mark to them.
You have existed for many years without any changes, that is something terrible, and that they are worried if this is true or just a trick.


This is somewhat disappointing. A provably fair game with 4 years reputation offering 0% House Edge is rare in gambling industry.
You've said it is a rare offer and that is the reason.

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December 16, 2020, 10:52:21 PM
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I thought the same thing. Creating and maintaining a website costs money. They also need to pay money to employees. Therefore, a gambling site should earn money. If a zero casino advantage is set, then there is some other earnings that players are not told about. Personally, this fact would stop me from playing on this site.

Running one would really be having an expense.This kind of site doesnt really need employees to pay but you can only run for yourself which means
you dont need to spend up that much compared to those casinos which does have lots of games integrated to it but to think that this site
does still have a bit of expense like maintaining the site ex. domain and other things which really involves money and if you do make out
a business that isnt really gaining revenue or profit then you would definite pull off some funds into your pocket.So its really pointless
on running one if you arent really making money.
All websites do have an expense in existing and maintenance. If you are the one who built your own casino with just simple games, The cost of it will not really be expensive than a big casino, and this where you can apply that 0% house edge. There are also ways to have revenue like adding some fees on withdrawal on top of the transaction fee which is not that good for gamblers.

Even a 0% house edge casino is released, there won't be any guarantee that people will take part in it. There are some 0% house edge casino before that didn't survive the competition and burned out in the way by those low house edge casinos that are actively giving promotion to make people hear their casino. Gamblers would basically choose the casino that is giving the promotion than stick with a 0% house edge casino.
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December 16, 2020, 11:16:45 PM
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I thought the same thing. Creating and maintaining a website costs money. They also need to pay money to employees. Therefore, a gambling site should earn money. If a zero casino advantage is set, then there is some other earnings that players are not told about. Personally, this fact would stop me from playing on this site.

Running one would really be having an expense.This kind of site doesnt really need employees to pay but you can only run for yourself which means
you dont need to spend up that much compared to those casinos which does have lots of games integrated to it but to think that this site
does still have a bit of expense like maintaining the site ex. domain and other things which really involves money and if you do make out
a business that isnt really gaining revenue or profit then you would definite pull off some funds into your pocket.So its really pointless
on running one if you arent really making money.

Do you really think that such sites work by themselves and do not require employees to work correctly? I think that at least one person is needed who will monitor the deposits made to user's accounts and the money withdrawn by them. In addition, there must be an employee responsible for the security of the site, so that it can't be hacked and steal all the money. therefore, the costs there are really significant and they should at least be covered by the site's profit.
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December 16, 2020, 11:31:06 PM
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Logically it doesn't make sense gambling sites offer gamblers with a 0% house edge, because gambling sites do not benefit from
doing so. Maybe some gamblers are suspicious of the offer, so some gamblers finally decided to avoid playing on these gambling sites.
Or there is a possibility that gamblers do not find interesting games on the gambling site, because most gamblers play gambling for
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December 16, 2020, 11:43:46 PM
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I thought the same thing. Creating and maintaining a website costs money. They also need to pay money to employees. Therefore, a gambling site should earn money. If a zero casino advantage is set, then there is some other earnings that players are not told about. Personally, this fact would stop me from playing on this site.

Running one would really be having an expense.This kind of site doesnt really need employees to pay but you can only run for yourself which means
you dont need to spend up that much compared to those casinos which does have lots of games integrated to it but to think that this site
does still have a bit of expense like maintaining the site ex. domain and other things which really involves money and if you do make out
a business that isnt really gaining revenue or profit then you would definite pull off some funds into your pocket.So its really pointless
on running one if you arent really making money.

Do you really think that such sites work by themselves and do not require employees to work correctly? I think that at least one person is needed who will monitor the deposits made to user's accounts and the money withdrawn by them. In addition, there must be an employee responsible for the security of the site, so that it can't be hacked and steal all the money. therefore, the costs there are really significant and they should at least be covered by the site's profit.

Why would need if you would make all in automation? It isnt really that necessary to get some employee if you can handle by yourself with the help of those tools.
It isnt really needed to have some assistance yet you can do it for yourself or doesnt really involved too much work unless if its a big gambling site then
thats the time you would consider on getting some employees for making the work or job done fast and organized.

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December 17, 2020, 05:20:03 AM
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Logically it doesn't make sense gambling sites offer gamblers with a 0% house edge, because gambling sites do not benefit from
doing so. Maybe some gamblers are suspicious of the offer, so some gamblers finally decided to avoid playing on these gambling sites.
Or there is a possibility that gamblers do not find interesting games on the gambling site, because most gamblers play gambling for
entertainment. So they have to find something that can entertain them on the gambling site, if not then it's useless that the 0% house edge
offer doesn't make gamblers interested.

That is true, gambling sites get their profit from house-edge, aside from fees they charge from transactions. Bigger gambling platform has to pay staff to maintain the platform running smoothly, marketing and etc.  0% house-edge can be catchy, but gamblers would rather play on quality platforms even if they pay small amount of house-edge for better service and convenience.
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