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December 17, 2020, 07:24:00 AM |
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Logically it doesn't make sense gambling sites offer gamblers with a 0% house edge, because gambling sites do not benefit from doing so. Maybe some gamblers are suspicious of the offer, so some gamblers finally decided to avoid playing on these gambling sites. Or there is a possibility that gamblers do not find interesting games on the gambling site, because most gamblers play gambling for entertainment. So they have to find something that can entertain them on the gambling site, if not then it's useless that the 0% house edge offer doesn't make gamblers interested.
That is true, gambling sites get their profit from house-edge, aside from fees they charge from transactions. Bigger gambling platform has to pay staff to maintain the platform running smoothly, marketing and etc. 0% house-edge can be catchy, but gamblers would rather play on quality platforms even if they pay small amount of house-edge for better service and convenience. If a gambler search for the casino that they want, they will not have a problem if the site doesn't have 0% house edge because as long as they can get comfortable from the site, they will stay. But they can search for a 0% house edge if they want to have another experience to play gambling on the other sites. Gamblers will search for how they can enjoy the games and some of them want to make money, so they would search a gambling site which can fit their need.
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December 17, 2020, 10:34:08 AM |
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Logically it doesn't make sense gambling sites offer gamblers with a 0% house edge, because gambling sites do not benefit from doing so. Maybe some gamblers are suspicious of the offer, so some gamblers finally decided to avoid playing on these gambling sites. Or there is a possibility that gamblers do not find interesting games on the gambling site, because most gamblers play gambling for entertainment. So they have to find something that can entertain them on the gambling site, if not then it's useless that the 0% house edge offer doesn't make gamblers interested.
That is true, gambling sites get their profit from house-edge, aside from fees they charge from transactions. Bigger gambling platform has to pay staff to maintain the platform running smoothly, marketing and etc. 0% house-edge can be catchy, but gamblers would rather play on quality platforms even if they pay small amount of house-edge for better service and convenience. If a gambler search for the casino that they want, they will not have a problem if the site doesn't have 0% house edge because as long as they can get comfortable from the site, they will stay. But they can search for a 0% house edge if they want to have another experience to play gambling on the other sites. Gamblers will search for how they can enjoy the games and some of them want to make money, so they would search a gambling site which can fit their need. Despite the 0% house-edge, it would not be that popular. Just imagine the chance of you winning in this game. Yes it is 0% house-edge but it is still close to a lottery where gamblers might take a chance but if you really want to win, you'll choose other games. Another thing is that the expected customers or gamblers is far too little unlike other games of other sites despite the house-edge they have, people are enjoying it and find it so entertaining.
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If a gambler search for the casino that they want, they will not have a problem if the site doesn't have 0% house edge because as long as they can get comfortable from the site, they will stay. But they can search for a 0% house edge if they want to have another experience to play gambling on the other sites. Gamblers will search for how they can enjoy the games and some of them want to make money, so they would search a gambling site which can fit their need.
Basically, if they can see that they are winning even if they cannot really verify the outcomes of each game, they will continue to play and test their luck. It is no matter if the house edge is too much or 0%, what makes a casino stands out from its competitor is when it offers many perks such as rakebacks and it has a good visual and audio that makes the game exciting to play. Imagine, knowing that the house edge is zero but the animation from the game is nothing, I don't think it will still be considered by the players. What is better is to make it balanced, giving a real advantage from the house and still providing the best service in terms of game idea and user experience to the platform.
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December 17, 2020, 11:48:36 AM |
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Why would need if you would make all in automation? It isnt really that necessary to get some employee if you can handle by yourself with the help of those tools. It isnt really needed to have some assistance yet you can do it for yourself or doesnt really involved too much work unless if its a big gambling site then thats the time you would consider on getting some employees for making the work or job done fast and organized.
There are some site i have read specially recently that owned and operate with single person/owner and also same as other exchange . So i think there is no impossible having these kind of Business specially if you can manage and sustain all of the needs of the subscriber/players/gamblers so Yeah Let the business run as long as it is supported by gamblers and not messing in gambling community .
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December 17, 2020, 11:56:34 AM |
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If a gambler search for the casino that they want, they will not have a problem if the site doesn't have 0% house edge because as long as they can get comfortable from the site, they will stay. But they can search for a 0% house edge if they want to have another experience to play gambling on the other sites. Gamblers will search for how they can enjoy the games and some of them want to make money, so they would search a gambling site which can fit their need.
Basically, if they can see that they are winning even if they cannot really verify the outcomes of each game, they will continue to play and test their luck. It is no matter if the house edge is too much or 0%, what makes a casino stands out from its competitor is when it offers many perks such as rakebacks and it has a good visual and audio that makes the game exciting to play. Imagine, knowing that the house edge is zero but the animation from the game is nothing, I don't think it will still be considered by the players. What is better is to make it balanced, giving a real advantage from the house and still providing the best service in terms of game idea and user experience to the platform. That is so true. I don't think it would rake gamblers in their casino site if they will only flail their 0% house edge while other online casinos, even though their gambling site have a higher house edge, have quality and really great games that is played by a lot of gamblers for a long period of time. Who would be interested in this kind of game though?
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December 17, 2020, 01:44:54 PM |
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That is true, gambling sites get their profit from house-edge, aside from fees they charge from transactions. Bigger gambling platform has to pay staff to maintain the platform running smoothly, marketing and etc. 0% house-edge can be catchy, but gamblers would rather play on quality platforms even if they pay small amount of house-edge for better service and convenience.
I checked on the site and it has only one game, compared to other top gambling sites online that offer many games and many contest giveaways I don't think this gambling site has a chance at all, people are playing to have some fun and to be entertained and they do want to make money too, but they both want it, so they will always prefer gambling with a lot of features with house edge.
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December 17, 2020, 04:39:04 PM |
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Do you really think that such sites work by themselves and do not require employees to work correctly? I think that at least one person is needed who will monitor the deposits made to user's accounts and the money withdrawn by them. In addition, there must be an employee responsible for the security of the site, so that it can't be hacked and steal all the money. therefore, the costs there are really significant and they should at least be covered by the site's profit.
Why would need if you would make all in automation? It isnt really that necessary to get some employee if you can handle by yourself with the help of those tools. It isnt really needed to have some assistance yet you can do it for yourself or doesnt really involved too much work unless if its a big gambling site then thats the time you would consider on getting some employees for making the work or job done fast and organized. I know quite large gaming sites and exchanges, where almost all deposits and withdrawals of coins are carried out manually (especially for large amounts). This is necessary in order to exclude the possibility of cheaters actions and the use of bugs. It seems to me that it is much easier to pay a salary to a few people than to lose a lot of money due to the malicious actions of cheaters. In any case, from time to time there are failures in the system and it is necessary that there is a person who could fix everything.
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December 17, 2020, 04:53:51 PM |
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My excuse to avoid 0% house edge is that i fear i could get scammed by the house which offer this unusual house edge of 0%. If there is no house edge, the casino can get rekt, therefor no casino will be 100% doing the business without the house edge.
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December 17, 2020, 07:17:40 PM |
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My excuse to avoid 0% house edge is that i fear i could get scammed by the house which offer this unusual house edge of 0%. If there is no house edge, the casino can get rekt, therefor no casino will be 100% doing the business without the house edge.
You would really be having that question and doubts in mind on how they do continue to operate if they arent making money. Its not that they are scam directly but this turn out to be shady and just like others you will really be having that kind of question on why someone would offer on something that they cant make money. When it comes to fairness then you can assure since this is a blockchain based type of game.
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December 17, 2020, 08:58:49 PM |
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My excuse to avoid 0% house edge is that i fear i could get scammed by the house which offer this unusual house edge of 0%. If there is no house edge, the casino can get rekt, therefor no casino will be 100% doing the business without the house edge.
You would really be having that question and doubts in mind on how they do continue to operate if they arent making money. Its not that they are scam directly but this turn out to be shady and just like others you will really be having that kind of question on why someone would offer on something that they cant make money. When it comes to fairness then you can assure since this is a blockchain based type of game. Yes and therefore, even though it is said to be a 0% house edge but the games offered will still make it difficult for you to determine the correct number. So, whatever percentage of the house edge is offered I don't think it is a problem, because at this time when the gambling platform has become big in its circle then still, people will still play there even though it is a higher house edge.
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December 17, 2020, 09:05:39 PM |
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My excuse to avoid 0% house edge is that i fear i could get scammed by the house which offer this unusual house edge of 0%. If there is no house edge, the casino can get rekt, therefor no casino will be 100% doing the business without the house edge.
You would really be having that question and doubts in mind on how they do continue to operate if they arent making money. Its not that they are scam directly but this turn out to be shady and just like others you will really be having that kind of question on why someone would offer on something that they cant make money. When it comes to fairness then you can assure since this is a blockchain based type of game. Yes and therefore, even though it is said to be a 0% house edge but the games offered will still make it difficult for you to determine the correct number. So, whatever percentage of the house edge is offered I don't think it is a problem, because at this time when the gambling platform has become big in its circle then still, people will still play there even though it is a higher house edge. With all the comments here on this thread, and checking again the site. The owner haven't managed to improve their site yet. So I don't think they can attract players here even if their house edge offering is legit. Sometimes people are not after for the low house edge of the casino but the entertainment they can get from the game. And with their game, don't think that it is enjoyable in the long run.
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December 17, 2020, 09:26:05 PM |
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I don't see blockchain games to be that attractive.
I don't see it either, people are gambling on two things they want to be entertained and they want to win depends on the priority the players, will opted to play in casino with many games like dice slot baccarat poker, something that your site is not offering to their clients, you can get some players who's main goal is just to win money. At some point, gamblers want to have fun. And his site by any means is far from that. Maybe some will play at the start but in the long run, I don't think they will stick to it. Unless, the owner will innovate their site and offer other games. Well that's true talk, from forum members requested was that, the casino should ensure to make the game look interesting for gamblers as the current game on the platform doesn't look attractive to gamblers. Personally, the gambling platform interface doesn't look appealing either, as such won't attract gamblers, hope to see more games are be added. Agreed, one of the most important things a casino has to do is to ensure that their games are fun and attractive for gamblers, take a look at physical casinos, it is obvious they go out of their way to give a certain atmosphere to their customers, otherwise they are not going to visit the casino a second time if they think it looks cheap regardless of the house edge the casino may give them, and the same is true for online casinos, if anything I could say it is even more important as in an online casino you can watch the same screen for hours and it needs to be attractive otherwise most gamblers will have no interest in returning back.
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December 18, 2020, 01:35:22 AM |
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With all the comments here on this thread, and checking again the site. The owner haven't managed to improve their site yet. So I don't think they can attract players here even if their house edge offering is legit. Sometimes people are not after for the low house edge of the casino but the entertainment they can get from the game. And with their game, don't think that it is enjoyable in the long run.
Building these kinds of sites would be really hard. Having a 0% house-edge is amazing and all but it is just there standing at one foot and can't do anything. It is better if they could maybe make the games more entertaining and inviting and as you've said, maybe develop and improve more their site. Maybe they could add more games and not just the game that they have right now.
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December 18, 2020, 06:02:04 AM |
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Despite the 0% house-edge, it would not be that popular.
Just imagine the chance of you winning in this game. Yes it is 0% house-edge but it is still close to a lottery where gamblers might take a chance but if you really want to win, you'll choose other games. Another thing is that the expected customers or gamblers is far too little unlike other games of other sites despite the house-edge they have, people are enjoying it and find it so entertaining.
Maybe that is what we need to win when the house has 0%. But still, if that is a gambling game, it is not easy to have a win because the casino will still take the biggest money from other gamblers. A gambler maybe forgets that even if the casino uses 0% house-edge, the gambler is still hard to win. The gamblers only need to enjoy and get entertained in the gambling games and don't think bigger to win. If a gambler search for the casino that they want, they will not have a problem if the site doesn't have 0% house edge because as long as they can get comfortable from the site, they will stay. But they can search for a 0% house edge if they want to have another experience to play gambling on the other sites. Gamblers will search for how they can enjoy the games and some of them want to make money, so they would search a gambling site which can fit their need.
Basically, if they can see that they are winning even if they cannot really verify the outcomes of each game, they will continue to play and test their luck. It is no matter if the house edge is too much or 0%, what makes a casino stands out from its competitor is when it offers many perks such as rakebacks and it has a good visual and audio that makes the game exciting to play. Imagine, knowing that the house edge is zero but the animation from the game is nothing, I don't think it will still be considered by the players. What is better is to make it balanced, giving a real advantage from the house and still providing the best service in terms of game idea and user experience to the platform. That is what happens to the gamblers, whether they win or lose. They will still play more and more and not think about the risk of losing money. I agree that the gambling place interface will also make the gamblers feel exciting to play, which can be the reason why the gamblers stay for a long time.
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December 18, 2020, 06:04:52 AM |
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Why would need if you would make all in automation? It isnt really that necessary to get some employee if you can handle by yourself with the help of those tools. It isnt really needed to have some assistance yet you can do it for yourself or doesnt really involved too much work unless if its a big gambling site then thats the time you would consider on getting some employees for making the work or job done fast and organized.
There are some site i have read specially recently that owned and operate with single person/owner and also same as other exchange . So i think there is no impossible having these kind of Business specially if you can manage and sustain all of the needs of the subscriber/players/gamblers so Yeah Let the business run as long as it is supported by gamblers and not messing in gambling community . Big or small gambling site, I think it'll be more convenient to be run by couple of persons, like 2 or 3 if it's a small gambling site. Imagine managing it 24/7 all by yourself is no joke. Also it is easier to notice bugs and errors if you have people on it, the more the brains, the better. And starting even a small gambling site would be better if you'll have business partner(s) so shouldering all the expenses will not be a weight from you. For example is when you're struggling making it famous and reputable, but it turns out the other way around, you'll only lose half of the money you'll have to put if you're just alone running that small gambling site business, so you could try again.
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December 18, 2020, 08:29:54 AM |
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Big or small gambling site, I think it'll be more convenient to be run by couple of persons, like 2 or 3 if it's a small gambling site. Imagine managing it 24/7 all by yourself is no joke. Also it is easier to notice bugs and errors if you have people on it, the more the brains, the better.
And starting even a small gambling site would be better if you'll have business partner(s) so shouldering all the expenses will not be a weight from you. For example is when you're struggling making it famous and reputable, but it turns out the other way around, you'll only lose half of the money you'll have to put if you're just alone running that small gambling site business, so you could try again.
I agree with you, running a hole casino alone seems too much in my opinion. You would need to be available every day of the week, without any day off. Also as a customer on a casino you want to be able to reach customer support when you have problems. It's better to share all this work among a few partners than try to run it all by yourself.
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December 18, 2020, 08:46:02 AM |
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With all the comments here on this thread, and checking again the site. The owner haven't managed to improve their site yet. So I don't think they can attract players here even if their house edge offering is legit.
i didnt back read anymore further and id like to ask if the owner still reply on this thread ? why can he just say that his site is already perfect and he dont want any adjustments anymore if thats what he thinks so that people wont expect or will add more request . Sometimes people are not after for the low house edge of the casino but the entertainment they can get from the game. And with their game, don't think that it is enjoyable in the long run.
those gambler that wants entertainment love to play on higher house edge . the higher the better for them because this provides more excitement and fun .also they love if the casino looks colorful and have a variety of enjoyable games not only pure luck games .
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December 18, 2020, 08:56:13 AM |
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Logically it doesn't make sense gambling sites offer gamblers with a 0% house edge, because gambling sites do not benefit from doing so. Maybe some gamblers are suspicious of the offer, so some gamblers finally decided to avoid playing on these gambling sites. Or there is a possibility that gamblers do not find interesting games on the gambling site, because most gamblers play gambling for entertainment. So they have to find something that can entertain them on the gambling site, if not then it's useless that the 0% house edge offer doesn't make gamblers interested.
That is true, gambling sites get their profit from house-edge, aside from fees they charge from transactions. Bigger gambling platform has to pay staff to maintain the platform running smoothly, marketing and etc. 0% house-edge can be catchy, but gamblers would rather play on quality platforms even if they pay small amount of house-edge for better service and convenience. Although these gambling platforms do pay their staff's from house edge and transaction fees in the casino, but, that doesn't mean that those with 0% house edge won't get what it needed for staff's payment if only they will intensify their effort in creating good UI and pleasurable games on their platform, they will generate what will carter for the staff's.
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December 18, 2020, 09:40:22 AM |
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My excuse to avoid 0% house edge is that i fear i could get scammed by the house which offer this unusual house edge of 0%. If there is no house edge, the casino can get rekt, therefor no casino will be 100% doing the business without the house edge.
The only gamblers that will play on this particular gambling site are gamblers who are going for profit, but those who want fun and entertainment are likely to go on the gambling site as OP has shown, it lacks a variety, people like to play on gambling sites like Stake.com, Duelbits, Bitvest 777Coin among others with many games to choose from.
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kolesozw
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December 18, 2020, 09:44:38 AM |
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After running 4 years on Bitcoin blockchain, Chain-Bet.com has been re-written to run on Litecoin blockchain. It is a game that asks a simple question: What would be last digit of the block hash that includes your transaction? Players guess last digit of the block hash and bet on that. If the guess is correct, player gets back 16 times of the bet amount. As a promotional offer after our re-launch, the game is now operating at 0% House Edge. But, since our relaunch on September 01, 2020, we have not seen similar enthusiasm like we experienced 4 years back. This is somewhat disappointing. A provably fair game with 4 years reputation offering 0% House Edge is rare in gambling industry. Instead of burning money for advertisement, we are giving it back to our gamblers through 0% House Edge. So, what is stopping you from wagering on this game like before? Constructive criticism is welcome. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I hope you will see this as "Constructive criticism" and not hating. Chain-Bet.com is boring, that's the reason behind avoiding it. Gambling is more about excitement and experience, something that Chain-Bet.com fails to deliver. It's missing the fast pace of most casinos and games.
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