4 posts deleted - THANKYOU ???

[Mbitr]

I woke up this morning to find four messages explaining that I’ve had 4 posts deleted - fine it happens !
Intriguingly all 4 posts that were deleted were all for saying all the same thing - Thankyou !!!
These posts were all in the collectibles section of the forum and were
- 3 posts - saying Thankyou for operating a free raffle and giving me a slot
- 1 post - for saying Thankyou to a member who started off a free raffle that I was running .

Now I would like to ask
1. Why were these reported and which forum rule these posts are breaking ?
2. In the collectibles part of the forum , free raffles, general information and a lot of help is given to fellow members and a response of Thankyou is given thousands of times ! Will all of these posts be deleted now ?
There can be a lot of negativity and spamming in this forum , surely this can’t be classed as spam and surely positivity breeds positivity .
It costs nothing to say THANKYOU
Thankyou in advance for any members and mods who respond

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[ranochigo]

My guess is this:

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

I would say that forum moderation tends to be quite strict in terms of posts that doesn't really add to the discussion (I know there isn't a lot of discussion in the collectibles anyways). It would be quite detrimental to the forum if all the account botters flocks to collectibles and starts spamming useless posts.

I don't think it's particularly fair to remove posts that express gratitude but perhaps giving a merit would be better.

[Mbitr]

My guess is this:

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

I would say that forum moderation tends to be quite strict in terms of posts that doesn't really add to the discussion (I know there isn't a lot of discussion in the collectibles anyways). It would be quite detrimental to the forum if all the account botters flocks to collectibles and starts spamming useless posts.

I don't think it's particularly fair to remove posts that express gratitude but perhaps giving a merit would be better.

Thankyou for your reply - I’m assuming that Rule 1 - would be the answer in this case . But again I’d like to argue that saying Thankyou has a lot more value than some of the nonsense posts and threads on the forum.
And totally agree with you on the collectibles , we do get very little spamming - touch wood !

[mdayonliner]

My guess is this:

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

The context seems relevant so we can not tell it off-topic or low value posts. The examples were given are:  

1. Such posts as "SELL SELL SELL", "I agree", "+1", "Support", "Watching", "Interesting", "LOL", "SCAM", "LEGIT", "FAKE", other one word posts, posts consisting mostly of swearing, quote pyramids, useless introduction threads, threads about a topic already recently discussed in several other threads.

All of these should consider spam if there are not enough thoughts and not relevant to the context.

[Mbitr]

One post was deleted from this thread - for saying Thankyou and congrats
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286455.0
Another post deleted for the same in this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290208.0

I’m a firm believer in manners maketh man . Sometimes I don’t always have merits to give !

[Mitchell]

Saying thank you for (free) raffles and congratulating people in said raffles (or even auctions) should not be counted as "zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts". Those kinds of posts are usually only deleted if the poster wears a signature campaign. You do not, you just promote a fellow cryptocurrency collectible creator. Plus, you are an active part of the collectors community.

If it was a random newbie (or someone with a signature campaign), I might understand, but I fully understand why you're pissed and, in my opinion, you have good reasons to be pissed.

[hilariousandco]

They don't seem to have been reported.

[Mitchell]

They don't seem to have been reported.

So a global admin/administrator just randomly removed his posts without them being reported. That's odd...

[GazetaBitcoin]

I woke up this morning to find four messages explaining that I’ve had 4 posts deleted - fine it happens !
Intriguingly all 4 posts that were deleted were all for saying all the same thing - Thankyou !!!
These posts were all in the collectibles section of the forum and were
- 3 posts - saying Thankyou for operating a free raffle and giving me a slot

Curiously, I also had 3 similar posts deleted today. All of them were thanking to the OPs of free raffles from Collectbles board, where I was a part of. I didn't think a lot about why they were deleted, although it seemed curious. But now, seeing that it was not an isolated case, makes me wonder why they were deleted... I thought that maybe they were deleted by mistake, but it seems it is not that, since other such posts were also deleted. Then I wondered if someone considered that being polite means to write a zero value post, saying thank you.

They don't seem to have been reported.

Hilariousandco, are you kind, please, to check also my 3 deleted posts? Thank you in advance.

[Mbitr]

Sorry - having trouble with my image resizer

[hilariousandco]

They don't seem to have been reported.

Hilariousandco, are you kind, please, to check also my 3 deleted posts? Thank you in advance.

None on you either. Maybe someone reported somebody else's thank you post and then a mod just deleted the others they saw but I can't see any reports on any threads containing raffle. Maybe message malevolent and the other globals like mprep and rickbig.

[KingsGambet19]

Moderating this kind of forum is not a  easy job OP. Heavy post are being posted everyday especially in the major board discussion.

In your case, my opinion is that why your posts was deleted probably mods had been seeing it as scam threads where mostly fake giveaways threads or posts are rampant and that mods had deleted it without reviewing it again before deleting posts. Mods may had been exhausted and you are not lucky OP to which most of your posts had been deleted. Well, let us be patient I know it is difficult to see that number of posts deleted but we still need to trust mods to do their job as well. Let just say that it was an unfortunate events to your posts.

[SFR10]

@Mbitr
I have a feeling your case somehow falls under the same category as crackfoo's case and this was mprep's response to that case:

See rule 1:

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

1. Such posts as "SELL SELL SELL", "I agree", "+1", "Support", "Watching", "Interesting", "LOL", "SCAM", "LEGIT", "FAKE", other one word posts, posts consisting mostly of swearing, quote pyramids, useless introduction threads, threads about a topic already recently discussed in several other threads.

You're free to be polite and thank other people in addition to providing something else of substance that would take the post out of the territory of "low value". Not sure why you mentioned the thread being self-moderated since that doesn't change the dynamic here. Self-moderation doesn't override or substitute the rules and standards according to which the forum is moderated by its staff - it's another layer of moderation where the user can also decide which posts can stay and which should be deleted (though he isn't bound by any rules or standards the forum staff are).

I don't think it's particularly fair to remove posts that express gratitude but perhaps giving a merit would be better.

But merit should be given to high-quality posts and such posts are the exact opposite.

[Mbitr]

@SFR10 Thankyou

Now I suppose if I’d left at at a simple Thankyou, this post would be deleted  
Reading through that thread section , this does seem to be the case - you NEED to add something extra !
I suppose this is logical , but certainly goes against my personal preference - as I say - manners maketh man.

[mprep]

I was the one who deleted the "thank you" posts. I use a tool that scans new posts for low value content. I manually go through the results periodically and manually delete any posts that violate rule 1 from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 or any other rule.

My guess is this:

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

I would say that forum moderation tends to be quite strict in terms of posts that doesn't really add to the discussion (I know there isn't a lot of discussion in the collectibles anyways). It would be quite detrimental to the forum if all the account botters flocks to collectibles and starts spamming useless posts.

I don't think it's particularly fair to remove posts that express gratitude but perhaps giving a merit would be better.

Right on the money.

One post was deleted from this thread - for saying Thankyou and congrats
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286455.0
Another post deleted for the same in this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290208.0

I’m a firm believer in manners maketh man . Sometimes I don’t always have merits to give !

You are free to thank people in posts that contain other constructive content. If you don't have anything to add, you can also just thank the person via PM.

Saying thank you for (free) raffles and congratulating people in said raffles (or even auctions) should not be counted as "zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts". Those kinds of posts are usually only deleted if the poster wears a signature campaign. You do not, you just promote a fellow cryptocurrency collectible creator. Plus, you are an active part of the collectors community.

If it was a random newbie (or someone with a signature campaign), I might understand, but I fully understand why you're pissed and, in my opinion, you have good reasons to be pissed.

I try to apply the rules consistently and unless there are exceptional circumstances, I'd rather not give select communities a pass "just because". AFAIK I haven't deleted a single "thank you" post from a raffle winner and have skipped over numerous others since while they were borderline, they did contain something more constructive than "congrats and thank you".

[Mbitr]

Many thanks @mprep for your response . I can certainly understand why you’ve reached this decision on deleting such posts and I respectfully will not post such comments again. Personally, I don’t agree with it, but again understand the situation.
I’ll lock this topic now to avoid spam
EDIT - unlocked for other members who want to further this discussion.

[MoparMiningLLC]

instead of using a bot to determine what gets deleted - why not actually look at the posts? the ones being deleted should not have been deleted... after all, you are paid for what you delete, right? should take the time to make sure it is correct and not just some flawed bot logic.

[sujonali1819]

I don't think a post by saying only ''thank you'' ''Good Luck'' ''So Sad'' etc is looking good to see or has a good value. But if you really need thanks to others I think it's better to write some other things in a constructive way and later at the end of post ''thank you'' should be added. Or if nothing to say more without giving the thanks then simply sent merit it will act as ''thanks'' LOL

[Rizzrack]

instead of using a bot to determine what gets deleted - why not actually look at the posts? the ones being deleted should not have been deleted... after all, you are paid for what you delete, right? should take the time to make sure it is correct and not just some flawed bot logic.

He literally said the script finds possible low value posts and he then manually checks them. FWIW I deleted lots of "thankyou" from newbies and don't see rank or type of signature making any difference.

[GazetaBitcoin]

I deleted lots of "thankyou" from newbies and don't see rank or type of signature making any difference.

Actually it does make a difference. And that is, a newbie saying "great project", "thank you for the great project" etc. is part of a group of spammers / shillers which are interested only in bumping an ANN. In Collectibles board, those expressing their gratitude for a free raffle are not shilling anything; are not spamming; are not forcing to bump the respective topic etc. They are simple people, which were part of a raffle and, being polite in their nature, are expressing their gratitude for being offered the chance to win something.

So, yes, there is a difference between your mentioned newbie and another user from Collectibles board, especially inside a raffle topic. And the difference is huge: one wants to spam the forum, while the other is a polite person. This is the difference.