UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?

[Jet Cash]

Obviously the vaccine is damaging something, or two full doses would be better than 1.5 doses. Would you really want to take something that gives you 62% to 90% protection, when natural immunity gives you 100% immunity without any side effects.

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[tvbcof]

The media is almost completely silent about China (a question why?), I have chinese friends who told me even in late summer that life is back to normal back then, no lockdowns or any bans on activities, nobody's talking about the virus or vaccine anymore.
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Wuhan back in August celebrating their victory over covid-19...





...or are they celebrating their part in a successful psy-op to get the (very very willing) Western countries to shut down their economic activity.  They are going gangbusters now so I hear.  Apparently that was their pay-off by the globalists (who have their financial capital moved over to China by this time so it is in their interest that the nation thrives...for the next cycle until they suck this host dry as well.)

The footage from Wuhan seemed HIGHLY suspect to me back at the start of this thing.  Why are we not seeing anyone esle litterally 'dropping dead' in the streets like we did there?  The really telling thing was when one of their fearless CCP leaders was touring and the locked-in residents of a giant stack-n-pack apartment complex were shouting 'HOAX!' from their windows.

[hornetsnest]

The media is almost completely silent about China (a question why?)

sssshhhhh or the peeps won't accept the new normal....to include vaccine regime,new ID regime,new global digital common pass,yada yada (hey eventually lets combine it all into a nice stamp on your hand...what? You have no arms ..okay we can put it on your forehead)  

[franky1]

Wuhan back in August celebrating their victory over covid-19...

difference is wuhan actually closed its flights.
wuhan actually done proper track and trace
wuhan actually went to isolated peoples houses to test them, check on them and make sure they had what they needed so they didnt need to leave home

but UK/america done
repatriation flights
didnt do a good track and trace
didnt ensure those isolated were well looked after, so those isolating broke their isolation or ignored it completely
'coz constitution'

[Renampun]

Of course not, I'm afraid the research isn't ready yet...
There has been no research on the side effects that are likely to form when the vaccine is in the body, even they still don't agree on the dose that should be injected. https://futurism.com/neoscope/pharmaceutical-wrong-dose-vaccine-trial

[Cnut237]

Jet Cash, I'm interested in your thoughts on this post from earlier in the thread.
As far as I can see, the arguments you are making against the Covid-19 vaccine are the same as those that were made in the 19th Century about the Smallpox vaccine... but the Smallpox vaccine was a good thing, right?

[franky1]

to those wondering about the question over why a vaccine at:
full dose and a booster 3 weeks later at full dose
does not result in as good effect vs
half dose and a booster 3 weks later at full dose.

..
well its like a car with 'turbo' if the turbo only kicked in when the car was at full revvs the car would just give up and not want to go faster.
but when you set a turbo to kick in at half revs you get a true boost. which then helps your car achieve even greater speeds.
..
its like eating a full meal. and then trying to squeeze in a dessert. just leaves you feeling sluggish.
but if you have a light meal and then a big dessert. you are happy and more energised.

trying to stretch a system while its already at its peak. wont make it want to stretch further.
but letting it stretch while its still has potential makes it go beyond the first limit

try to run full speed in a 200m sprint.. your body wont like it and want to stop before you get to the finish
then try to jog for 100m then sprint the last half. you will get to the finish line in better condition

hope you now understand how real life works.

[chretienm]

The first dose turns off your immune system, the second dose injects nano-chips(nano-dust) in your body.

to those wondering about the question over why a vaccine at:
full dose and a booster 3 weeks later at full dose
does not result in as good effect vs
half dose and a booster 3 weks later at full dose.

..
well its like a car with 'turbo' if the turbo only kicked in when the car was at full revvs the car would just give up and not want to go faster.
but when you set a turbo to kick in at half revs you get a true boost. which then helps your car achieve even greater speeds.
..
its like eating a full meal. and then trying to squeeze in a dessert. just leaves you feeling sluggish.
but if you have a light meal and then a big dessert. you are happy and more energised.

trying to stretch a system while its already at its peak. wont make it want to stretch further.
but letting it stretch while its still has potential makes it go beyond the first limit

try to run full speed in a 200m sprint.. your body wont like it and want to stop before you get to the finish
then try to jog for 100m then sprint the last half. you will get to the finish line in better condition

hope you now understand how real life works.

[ethereumhunter]

We don't know yet, but if the government suggests their people to use that vaccine, their people need to use it. But I am sure that the government already test the vaccine, and hopefully, it is safe to be used for the patient and all people who have asymptomatic. Maybe there is a new update from the government related to the vaccine, and we can wait for a while.

[tvbcof]

to those wondering about the question over why a vaccine at:
full dose and a booster 3 weeks later at full dose
does not result in as good effect vs
half dose and a booster 3 weks later at full dose.

..
well its like a car with 'turbo' if the turbo only kicked in when the car was at full revvs the car would just give up and not want to go faster.
but when you set a turbo to kick in at half revs you get a true boost. which then helps your car achieve even greater speeds.
..
its like eating a full meal. and then trying to squeeze in a dessert. just leaves you feeling sluggish.
but if you have a light meal and then a big dessert. you are happy and more energised.

trying to stretch a system while its already at its peak. wont make it want to stretch further.
but letting it stretch while its still has potential makes it go beyond the first limit

try to run full speed in a 200m sprint.. your body wont like it and want to stop before you get to the finish
then try to jog for 100m then sprint the last half. you will get to the finish line in better condition

hope you now understand how real life works.

Not really.  Your examples seem to have no logical relationship to your assertions about vaccine dosing, much less any real-world techical information or data.

I'm still asking myself if you are just some AI babble-bot written to generate spam and take up space.

[o_e_l_e_o]

I'm not from the UK, but I can say that I definitely won't be injecting this vaccine into my body. The last time I injected myself with a vaccine, I had a Hell of a time convincing my doctor to update my vaccination record, since I had no evidence other than the empty vial to prove I had actually taken it, and he wasn't happy about it at all. From now on, I'll let him inject the vaccines, and save self-injection for drugs that don't require his involvement.

I'm also not from the UK, but even if the only way to deliver this vaccine was by injecting it directly in to my eyes followed by rinsing with capsaicin and lime juice, I'd still be front of the queue. I'll take that over a prolonged, agonizing, and lonely death on a ventilator any day of the week, thanks.

Natural immunity is 100% effective.

That just isn't true. If it were, shingles wouldn't exist.

btw - I haven't been vaccinated for almost 70 years, and I have survived 4 pandemics and the annual 'flu without much more than the odd sniffle.

Everyone knows a smoker who lived in to their 90s. Doesn't mean smoking is healthy.

[tvbcof]

Natural immunity is 100% effective.

That just isn't true. If it were, shingles wouldn't exist.

One of the stupidest childhood vaccines ever is chickenpox.  Good scientists (and yes, there are some) warned that by doing this one on a widespread basis, oldsters were going to have a lot more problems with shingles (because kids act as a natural booster for the rest of the population.)

Of course they did put it on the childhood vaccination schedule, and sure enough, shingles problems in oldsters exploded.

But don't worry about the vaccine makers.  The tripled the strength of their 'chickepox vaccine' and sold it to oldsters as a 'shingles vaccination'.  It didn't work for shit, of course, and caused a lot of problems.  Not sure if it is even on the market now.

[jrrsparkles]

If you are not yet affected by covid 19 even though you are living in a place where corona cases are high means you already got some natural immunity to such things so better avoid taking vaccines.

[pixie85]

I'm not anti-vaccine but I would be afraid to be a guinea pig for a big company.

The covid vaccine wasn't tested enough and we all know it's being rushed so I'd not take it if I were asked to do it.

I'm expecting some restrictions. They'll probably tell you that you can't send your children if you don't vaccinate them or you won't get normal medical care if you're not vaccinated.

[tvbcof]

I'm not anti-vaccine but I would be afraid to be a guinea pig for a big company.

The covid vaccine wasn't tested enough and we all know it's being rushed so I'd not take it if I were asked to do it.

I'm expecting some restrictions. They'll probably tell you that you can't send your children if you don't vaccinate them or you won't get normal medical care if you're not vaccinated.

They'd shoot themselves in the foot.  'Public education' is one of the big elements in how they get people dumb enough to fall for a hoax such as 'covid-19'.  Similarly, 'normal medical care' means keeping people in a state of chronic sickness and dependence on pharma products which are overpriced because the bill is paid for by 'the collective.'  No way are they going to give up that cash cow.

In a way, being cut out from society for refusing the so-called 'vaccines' (or any other reason) would be a major blessing for those who self-selected.  It would create a break-away community of smart healthy people.  For this reason I don't expect the social engineers behind the 'great reset' and 'new normal' to allow such a disaster to occur.  They are not _that_ bad at systems analysis.

[franky1]

'normal medical care' means keeping people in a state of chronic sickness and dependence on pharma products which are overpriced because the bill is paid for by 'the collective.'  No way are they going to give up that cash cow.

sounds like tvbcof is confusing 'pill mill doctors with their own clinics'.. from actual doctors in hospitals that treat people

maybe tvbcof's only experience of a doctor is going to a pill mill to get a prescription of cannabis for his paranoia and yet due to smoking cannabis he has become more paranoid and is blaming the pillmill doctor.
thinking the doctor didnt 'treat him'.

the reality is tvbcof decided to avoid real doctors and chose to go to pillmils and herbalists thinking they will give him what he needs.

so here is a reality check
a pillmill doctor is not the same as a medical doctor.
pillmills are for profiting from the sales of products
medical doctors diagnose and investigate peoples illnesses/ailments and give them the treatment/therapy/medicine that actually designed to solve or help with that illness or ailment

if tvbcof's regular doctor acts like a pillmill. tvbcof should change his doctor
oh.. and stop smoking cannabis. its making you paranoid

[Salauddin1994]

The vaccine can protect against the spread of the virus i shouldn't get this vaccine if i'm not infected with the virus the uk has approved a coronavirus vaccine invented by a us pharmaceutical company for public use. The vaccine are going to be given to those that are most in danger within the country for a healthy person the required restrictions must be followed to stop the spread of corona it's better to take care of social distance and use face masks and to not be vaccinated.

[tvbcof]

'normal medical care' means keeping people in a state of chronic sickness and dependence on pharma products which are overpriced because the bill is paid for by 'the collective.'  No way are they going to give up that cash cow.

sounds like tvbcof is confusing 'pill mill doctors with their own clinics'.. from actual doctors in hospitals that treat people

Seems like state hospitals are 'real' to you and privately owned clinics are not?  Anyway, it reminds me of issues where returning vets were forced to take opiods by the VA and if they refused they would lose their VA benefits.  That's 'public sector' or 'socialized' health care for you.

Since you are bringing me into it personally, note that I have been to the doctor on my own behalf only a few times in the past few decades, and even here it was for things that I could live without.  Lately it is mostly just to see first-hand the medical system in the country I currently live in (and in fact the doctor did a pretty good job of diagnosing allergic rhinitis which was a condition that I didn't self-diagnose accurately.)

A decade ago when I worked in Si valley I availed myself of 'modern' medical services for an annoying condition called rosacia which one side of my family suffers from.  The dermo gave me a prescription for the latest greatest (and I found out later $500/mo) antibiotic.  Within a month I was shitting blood.  I got off all but a mild topical antibiotic metronidozole.  Without insurance (which I pay to NOT have) they wanted $300/mo for this face cream.  I made it myself for about $0.30/mo using 'fish tank antibiotics' (which, I suspect is how a lot of doctors and pharmacists get their own medicine.)

OK.  That's me.  I've had other experience with the medical/industrial complex on behalf of others.  In the case of both of my parents, they nearly died from mis-applied medicine.  My dad for high-powered neuro drugs for 'Parkinson's' which he didn't have.  When I got him off the shit and moved to a different facility he was fine (considering he had had a stroke and was damaged from that a bit).  A little research on-line told me exactly what 'mistake' the neurologist had made.  In my mom's case recently for chemo which the tech tried to double-up her treatment and give her twice as many as the maximum the doctor prescribed.  An 'accident' of course.  My sister caught that one.

In the case of my daughter, the medico's took her into the back room after birth and dosed her with 'euvax' which we all decided not to give as the mom tested negative for hep.  This pissed me off and we've stayed away from the doctor since.  On the first day of lockdown (after being fairly well isolated for a whole month!?!), my daughter somehow caught German Measles as best I can tell.  It was textbook, but very very mild and she was done with it, rash and all, in about 3 days.  We didn't go to the doctor because of the lockdown.  Thank God!  That event tells me that my kid has a well functioning immune system and I suspect that avoiding 'the vaccine schedule' was the major factor, and it also tells me that there are some weird environmental things going on for a kid to get Rubella without coming into contract with any other kids.

[Crptomagma]

Since the outbreak of the virus the world has been fighting the virus in different ways and many country government has been working tirelessly to get the vaccine in other to keep their citizens safe from the virus. Covid vaccine has been the world greatest prayer since these pandemic that resulted to global economic meltdown and lockdown.

If the UK government claims to have discovered a vaccine to keep the citizens safe from the virus, considering the amount of citizens that have been lost during these Covid19 and now a better way to live without fear has been discovered. So I don’t see it as a big deal to subscribe to the idea of the UK government by taking the vaccine.

[Jet Cash]

Your body is the only thing that can fight the virus. You really have two methods. One is to learn about viruses and immune systems, and help your body to train its troops. You can do this naturally by reducing the viral load ( no face masks), boosting Vitamin "D" ( no staying indoors, but getting out into the sun ), expelling the virus and viral particles ( no nasal sprays or anti-diarrhoea medication), and allowing a higher temperature to kill the virus ( no fever reducing drugs). Of course there are many other useful things you can do such as staying hydrated.

The other approach is to introduce mercenaries to rampage through the pastures of your body, and kill the virus and your defensive troops. You are then left with a load of destructive mercenaries that you have to get out of your system. Of course, if you are exposed to infection later, then the mercenaries will have killed all the home troops and their trainers, and you will have to employ another gang of mercenaries to try to destroy the alien invaders. In view of the way that the viruses mutate, there is no guarantee that the invaders won't be from the same family as the mercenaries.