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March 05, 2023, 09:20:04 PM
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starting to stretch it and everyone started to get to know bitcoin in the 2017 range and above, where when bitcoin started to experience an increase and started to be valuable, especially in that era the increase in bitcoin was very significant and had become a topic of conversation and many had even looked to make it a very promising investment.
many have experienced a change by starting to work with bitcoin and many have benefited by continuing to know it, because bitcoin has become a promising investment the same as the investment that has existed so far.

the development of bitcoin will continue to increase and more and more can benefit from joining bitcoin, but also not a few who have not been able to fully enjoy the existence of bitcoin. because it's not the same for every individual to be able to respond to the existence of bitcoin, it's possible that you don't have capital that can be used because the funds that are available can only be used for the benefit of everyday life, how can that be if you want to invest without available funds.

surely many are lucky and can enjoy after 10 years associated with bitcoin. especially those who are always investing in bitcoin because it is certain that at any time they will continue to get an abundance of prices that continue to increase significantly, but it has no effect on those who do not have the funds to buy, even though they clearly understand and know the role of bitcoin when holding it.
with the value of bitcoin which continues to increase and will be repeated every 4 years, it is clear that only those who have more funds can enjoy the role of bitcoin, otherwise not for those who do not have funds. bitcoin is already a very expensive investment and only certain people can afford to do that.

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March 06, 2023, 05:06:16 AM
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And the OP was outlived by bitcoin, Lol, he is no longer active in this community but the thread he started though is crazy. I think majority of us here, their lives has change since they began investing on bitcoin and there could be more millionaires now, again thanks to the invention of Satoshi.

But I still think some of us are still in the journey, trying to live the lives that we all dream of and this could be accomplished through bitcoin. So it's not late to invest and think 10 years in the future.
many friends who have an improved economic life as a result of bitcoin. but completely they do not depend on bitcoin for life. after having enough profits, they have the capital to open businesses in other fields, and keep on making profits in the cryptocurrency world. until finally the business grows and can invest in bitcoin when the price drops, until finally they get profit again from bitcoin. with a new business that is run every day now can make ends meet, and will have a lot of savings from bitcoin results

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March 06, 2023, 08:56:20 AM
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And the OP was outlived by bitcoin, Lol, he is no longer active in this community but the thread he started though is crazy. I think majority of us here, their lives has change since they began investing on bitcoin and there could be more millionaires now, again thanks to the invention of Satoshi.

But I still think some of us are still in the journey, trying to live the lives that we all dream of and this could be accomplished through bitcoin. So it's not late to invest and think 10 years in the future.
many friends who have an improved economic life as a result of bitcoin. but completely they do not depend on bitcoin for life. after having enough profits, they have the capital to open businesses in other fields, and keep on making profits in the cryptocurrency world. until finally the business grows and can invest in bitcoin when the price drops, until finally they get profit again from bitcoin. with a new business that is run every day now can make ends meet, and will have a lot of savings from bitcoin results
Well bitcoin is a good source of income if we know how to use it, it depends on the strategy many people know about bitcoin but they are not lucky in using it, that is why they end up losing and forget the bitcoin and they back to the normal life without bitcoin, many people still use it and they also have another source of income and they are fine with thier financial aspects so for me it is not sure that ten years of using btc can make us rich or financially free it always depend on how we used it and also it depend in our luck.


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March 06, 2023, 09:32:45 AM
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I have never felt complete in my life before until I found Bitcoin 7 years ago and thanks to my deceased father I was able to keep my focus alive on crypto and learn more about Bitcoin, I started investing in Bitcoin in 2017 and so far it has been a thrilling journey, there were losses and there were big gains as well.

I was able to bring many friends along and a few of my family too, that's after they grew confident,  now I am even accepting Bitcoin as means of payment. A few of my friends have started accepting Bitcoin payments at their stores too.

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March 06, 2023, 10:37:36 AM
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This year it will be just 10 years since I know cryptocurrency.What results can be summed up.During this period, it’s even hard to say how much I earned, but I’m sure that the amount is not bad.With the help of bitcoin,I was able to pay for both my studies and travel to many countries.I also see only advantages in this matter and have never thought to finish. Wink
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March 06, 2023, 11:59:27 AM
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And the OP was outlived by bitcoin, Lol, he is no longer active in this community but the thread he started though is crazy. I think majority of us here, their lives has change since they began investing on bitcoin and there could be more millionaires now, again thanks to the invention of Satoshi.

But I still think some of us are still in the journey, trying to live the lives that we all dream of and this could be accomplished through bitcoin. So it's not late to invest and think 10 years in the future.

Sure there can be variations in which benefits start to show for people early in the Bitcoin journey, but I doubt that a bitcoin journey is going to be automatically positive, unless there is a way to make sure that studying is done, planning happens, and there is execution that may well end up getting tweaked at various points in order to be able to learn along the way of the bitcoin journey.

Another thing is that anyone getting into bitcoin in the last 2-3 years, may well be feeling some pains and struggles, and similar things could be true for some folks who got into bitcoin as far back as 3-5 years ago, if they had been playing their cards badly, including some folks may have been engaging in leveraging and gambling practices that can be quite dangerous in terms of forcing the removal of coinz... It seems to me that a certain amount of prudence and patience tends to be part of many journeys that will then have better chances of improving various aspects of life conditions... attacks on bitcoin are not likely to stop, and battles in regards to bitcoin are not likely to stop, so in that regard, there are likely needs to prepare financially and psychologically for how those kinds of likely inevitable battles and bitcoin price volatility are going to play out.

I guess that prudence and patience are among the biggest learnings and principles that those could gather who have been around for a long time. I can tell that my decisions became better over time the longer I exposed myself to the market and the more I dealt with the topic decentralization/cryptography both just for fun but also in depth scientifically as an academic.

But I can say one thing for sure: I have not really been into stocks before I got into crypto. Just a bit, but never to the extent like when crypto got me excited and I became research addicted. In the beginning, the first bull runs actually spoiled my idea of markets and investing in general. When something goes up 10x (traded alt coins as well back at the time) and you have never had any really significant exposures to markets before, you start thinking for that moment that there is some normality to such a market movement. Even worse you start thinking that markets are great to make a lot of money in a short period of time. And that is damn wrong! You can of course, but the shorter the time horizon, the more of a gamble the whole thing becomes, especially when you work with leverage, as you pointed out. Those are all important aspects that I learnt along the journey and I can say that it significantly helped me get through the bear markets. I didn't care when it dumped, I slept well. I understood that crypto is a different beast, a little child that is still prone to attacks from all angles and the price will reflect that one way or another.

But if I joined crypto just recently and I would have suffered from the price drop of roughly 70%, I would feel like trash. I know because very early on I put money on the line that I could not afford to lose. That is roughly a decade ago. The day I chose to do that was among the most volatile days I've witnessed so far and I couldn't sleep for a second and was just staring at the charts with sweat on my forehead. In retrospect it was a great and fun valuable lesson and luckily, I got through it well more or less! Cheesy

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March 06, 2023, 12:08:35 PM
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Another thing is that anyone getting into bitcoin in the last 2-3 years, may well be feeling some pains and struggles, and similar things could be true for some folks who got into bitcoin as far back as 3-5 years ago, if they had been playing their cards badly, including some folks may have been engaging in leveraging and gambling practices that can be quite dangerous in terms of forcing the removal of coinz... It seems to me that a certain amount of prudence and patience tends to be part of many journeys that will then have better chances of improving various aspects of life conditions... attacks on bitcoin are not likely to stop, and battles in regards to bitcoin are not likely to stop, so in that regard, there are likely needs to prepare financially and psychologically for how those kinds of likely inevitable battles and bitcoin price volatility are going to play out.
Probably those who have been dealing with bitcoin for about 5 years will be more calm in this situation, because they understand the cyclicality, how a bear market and a bull market replace each other. And for those who are relatively new here, it can be very difficult for them, especially if they bought bitcoin near ATH.

In 2023, we saw good local growth, for many it became encouraging, by the way, I was expecting a local growth, but at the same time I expected that it would be temporary and, as we see, a local correction is taking place now. I did not wait for this time, but continued to buy bitcoin, because although I expected a subsequent correction, I was still afraid of making a mistake, because there was a possibility of further growth. Even now, I assume that the growth may continue to 29-30k and then further decline will follow, perhaps we will be in anticipation of the beginning of the bull market all of 2023.

Sometimes I have a desire to try my hand at trading, to allocate some small part for this, but I don’t have much time for this, and yet I am an investor and not a trader, but I have a desire to multiply my bitcoins.

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March 06, 2023, 04:03:34 PM
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Some of those people who have been into bitcoin investment for the past 10 years have made a good fortune. I consider myself new to Bitcoin because I just got interested in it in 2019 (4 years now) and I couldn't hold anything more or less than $10 worth of it, even in 2020. But in 2021, I got a little hold of it and made some profit when the price pumped in 2021. I believe I will definitely make a fortune too if anything bad doesn't happen to the crypto market in the next six years, because already Bitcoin is facing lots of attacks by people just trying to destroy this technology.

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March 06, 2023, 04:06:30 PM
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Bitcoin was invented by the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto in 2008 and released as open-source software in early 2009. It was gradually recognized by many until it reached a peak of $19,783 per bitcoin in late-2017.

From the beginning of bitcoin history I know that many people become rich instantly when they hold their bitcoins and sold at the highest price last 2017.  After the price of bitcoin fluctuated and dropped where many investors got scared and started to panic to sell their bitcoin even if they went bankrupt. But we cannot hide that bitcoin has changed many lives.

On the other hand, after bitcoin dump many are still investing, especially as the price of bitcoin gradually rises again. And due to the continuous development of bitcoin it has become more and more popular and attractive to investors especially to the rich and big companies.

Now bitcoin is preparing to reach another ATH. Are you still there and holding your bitcoins? What happened to your life after 10 years in bitcoin? Is there any changes?
I want to say that if I have had at least 5000 dollars than I have high hopes that I might convert them to 200k dollars and still thing is that I have not 5000 dollars. Ànd I am trying hard to save these 5000 dollars and that could be my fortune.

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Some of those people who have been into bitcoin investment for the past 10 years have made a good fortune. I consider myself new to Bitcoin because I just got interested in it in 2019 (4 years now) and I couldn't hold anything more or less than $10 worth of it, even in 2020. But in 2021, I got a little hold of it and made some profit when the price pumped in 2021. I believe I will definitely make a fortune too if anything bad doesn't happen to the crypto market in the next six years, because already Bitcoin is facing lots of attacks by people just trying to destroy this technology.


More and more people are joining the Bitcoin community because of the obvious reason for getting a good return. The profit or ROI depends on what strategy you are adopting. There are people who bought bitcoin at 1$ and sell on 10$, while there are investors that bought bitcoin at 4k in Dec 2018 and sell at much higher prices. The best and tested strategy for Bitcoin investment is DCA. But again what strategy suits other may or may not suit you.

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March 06, 2023, 05:51:46 PM
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Some of those people who have been into bitcoin investment for the past 10 years have made a good fortune. I consider myself new to Bitcoin because I just got interested in it in 2019 (4 years now) and I couldn't hold anything more or less than $10 worth of it, even in 2020. But in 2021, I got a little hold of it and made some profit when the price pumped in 2021. I believe I will definitely make a fortune too if anything bad doesn't happen to the crypto market in the next six years, because already Bitcoin is facing lots of attacks by people just trying to destroy this technology.
It won't be too late if you invest bitcoin from now on for up to 10 years, there is no definite time limit as long as you can hold more bitcoins and continue to accumulate well then you will become a strong person holding them.

I know 2021 is a good year where prices are rising and bitcoin is high, but you have to remember that bitcoin will be much higher if you hold it for 10 years but what is clear is that you have to be ready to buy bitcoin from now on in any way.

Let people make the bitcoin situation worse with lots of FUD news spread we have to take advantage of that opportunity when the price has started to decrease due to many attacks here we buy slowly.

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starting to stretch it and everyone started to get to know bitcoin in the 2017 range and above, where when bitcoin started to experience an increase and started to be valuable, especially in that era the increase in bitcoin was very significant and had become a topic of conversation and many had even looked to make it a very promising investment.

I doubt that your version of events is even close to accurate.  Sure, each cycle more and more people are hearing about bitcoin, learning about bitcoin, and bitcoin is continuing to grow on an ongoing basis.. and likely more and more each cycle, but it hardly makes any sense to start your assessment at 2017 and to suggest that 2017 was some kind of a momentous starting point for bitcoin, when the level of adoption of bitcoin still remains pretty damned low, and even if more and more people have heard the word "bitcoin" few really understand what the fuck bitcoin is, even if a lot of people have heard the word.

Even people who own bitcoin, might not have spent very much time figuring out what bitcoin is, beyond possibly that they might consider it to be "number go up" (NGU) technology, and sure that's a start towards getting someone interested in bitcoin and to get their attention into looking into bitcoin further.


many have experienced a change by starting to work with bitcoin and many have benefited by continuing to know it, because bitcoin has become a promising investment the same as the investment that has existed so far.

Sure.  I cannot argue with you about this.  Bitcoin is a world changing technology, and remains a world changing technology that is continuing to have its effects for years to come.

the development of bitcoin will continue to increase and more and more can benefit from joining bitcoin, but also not a few who have not been able to fully enjoy the existence of bitcoin. because it's not the same for every individual to be able to respond to the existence of bitcoin, it's possible that you don't have capital that can be used because the funds that are available can only be used for the benefit of everyday life, how can that be if you want to invest without available funds.

Everyone likely benefits from bitcoin whether you have funds or not because bitcoin introduces a more responsible kind of financing and money that incentivizes various financial and governmental actors to behave more responsibly - even though it could take 100 to 200 years to really flesh out the various impacts of the incentive systems that are built into bitcoin, but the overall society benefits from it.

Of course, if you want to benefit on a more personal level, then the more that you are able to garner resources and to buy bitcoin, then you can benefit in more direct ways too... such as in the NGU technology.  The more disposable and even discretionary income that you have and are able to put into bitcoin, then it becomes more likely that you will personally and directly benefit - yet since bitcoin remains an asymmetric bet to the upside, it remains quite likely that you do not have to invest a lot into bitcoin bitcoin in order to still be able to personally and directly benefit from investing in bitcoin.

Sure, I understand that some people do not have much if any disposable and/or discretionary income that they are able to invest into bitcoin, so in that regard, they just invest what they can.. whether that is $100 per week or $10 per week or maybe even less than that if they have troubles affording $10 per week, they figure out how much they are able to invest without messing up their own living situation in terms of needing to pay for expenses within the cashflow that they have or are able to generate.

surely many are lucky and can enjoy after 10 years associated with bitcoin. especially those who are always investing in bitcoin because it is certain that at any time they will continue to get an abundance of prices that continue to increase significantly, but it has no effect on those who do not have the funds to buy, even though they clearly understand and know the role of bitcoin when holding it.

Well, in order of considering your own personal circumstances, you cannot turn back the clock, and you can ONLY consider what to do, on a personal level, based on your own personal circumstances, so the sooner that you figure out what you want to do and are able to do, and the sooner that you start to execute some kind of a plan, then the more likely that you will have chances to directly benefit from bitcoin.. .. otherwise, if you merely whine about the situation and complain that you do not have any money to buy bitcoin, then surely it will be nearly impossible to benefit directly from bitcoin, even though it still seems to be quite possible that you still may well be able to benefit more indirectly by the existence of bitcoin and the fact that bitcoin is a more honest money/asset system than what we have historically had in various societies.

You do seem to have one advantage in that you know about bitcoin, and you seem to recognize its value (including possibly understanding that it continues to have a future value that involves ongoing number go up); however, you might be disadvantaged if you cannot recognize and/or appreciate that you are likely to be better off to work on investing into it, even if you cannot invest very much rather than merely complaining about the situation regarding your purportedly not having much if anything to invest (if that's what you are doing?).

with the value of bitcoin which continues to increase and will be repeated every 4 years, it is clear that only those who have more funds can enjoy the role of bitcoin, otherwise not for those who do not have funds. bitcoin is already a very expensive investment and only certain people can afford to do that.

Too bad that you feel that you are too late, but hey, it is your choice in regards to whether to invest or just to complain about bitcoin being too expensive.

One of the advantages of bitcoin is that you are able to buy very small amounts of it, so long as you are able to find someone who is willing to sell it to you, and so it is way easier to get into bitcoin for yourself and for anyone else as compared to other investments that had historically been available.... So yeah, if you get distracted into believing that bitcoin costs too much, they you may remain either a no coiner or a low coiner.. and perhaps continuing to be bitter about the situation rather than figuring out ways to take a stake in bitcoin, even if you might not be able to afford to buy as much bitcoin as others are able to buy.

Another advantage of your knowing about bitcoin(even if you are proclaiming yourself to be poor), there are going to be some folks (and likely a considerable number of folks) who are still figuring bitcoin out 5-10 year or more into the future, and if you started to invest into bitcoin now, based on your having had learned that it is a potentially good investment, then you likely will be able to get ahead of some of those folks who ONLY start to learn about bitcoin or invest in bitcoin later down the road.. such as those who might start way down the road.. and there are a lot of people who either do not know what bitcoin is or they fail/refuse to understand that bitcoin has a currently strong investment thesis based on its likely ongoing and continued upwards prices...even if not guaranteed, but seemingly asymmetrical to the upside in nature.

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I guess that prudence and patience are among the biggest learnings and principles that those could gather who have been around for a long time. I can tell that my decisions became better over time the longer I exposed myself to the market and the more I dealt with the topic decentralization/cryptography both just for fun but also in depth scientifically as an academic.

But I can say one thing for sure: I have not really been into stocks before I got into crypto. Just a bit, but never to the extent like when crypto got me excited and I became research addicted. In the beginning, the first bull runs actually spoiled my idea of markets and investing in general. When something goes up 10x (traded alt coins as well back at the time) and you have never had any really significant exposures to markets before, you start thinking for that moment that there is some normality to such a market movement. Even worse you start thinking that markets are great to make a lot of money in a short period of time. And that is damn wrong! You can of course, but the shorter the time horizon, the more of a gamble the whole thing becomes, especially when you work with leverage, as you pointed out. Those are all important aspects that I learnt along the journey and I can say that it significantly helped me get through the bear markets. I didn't care when it dumped, I slept well. I understood that crypto is a different beast, a little child that is still prone to attacks from all angles and the price will reflect that one way or another.

But if I joined crypto just recently and I would have suffered from the price drop of roughly 70%, I would feel like trash. I know because very early on I put money on the line that I could not afford to lose. That is roughly a decade ago. The day I chose to do that was among the most volatile days I've witnessed so far and I couldn't sleep for a second and was just staring at the charts with sweat on my forehead. In retrospect it was a great and fun valuable lesson and luckily, I got through it well more or less! Cheesy

I am a little bothered by your emphasis on trading and crypto (aka shitcoins), but I appreciate that you share aspects of your story in terms of what seems to be that you learned some things about the dangers of short term thinking and also what seems to be likely risks of leverage.  In the end, hopefully you are going to be able to continue in bitcoin in terms of longer term thinking and learn to shirk off some the temptations to be involved in crypto/shitcoin trading unless it perhaps might serve as ONLY a smaller aspect of your overall approach.. but hey each fo us learns in our own way, and by the way some folks who get caught up in shitcoins, and trading in ways that seem to be gambling and leverage do not really seem to learn how to manage their gambling tendencies. .and then they end up getting fucked down the road, because sometimes when you gamble and trade with too much passion/leverage, you may well end up having a large number of "wins" (even 20 or more) and then one loss can wipe out a vast majority of your previous gains.. especially if you do not figure out ways to employ relatively prudent risk management strategies, and some of the traders/gamblers believe that they can "get it all back" if they lose it, which truly is a fools way of thinking.. so for sure there needs to be care when employing gambling, leverage and/or getting involved in shitcoins (including using the term "crypto" without specifying or actually showing that you actually know the difference between bitcoin and shitcoins).

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Probably those who have been dealing with bitcoin for about 5 years will be more calm in this situation, because they understand the cyclicality, how a bear market and a bull market replace each other. And for those who are relatively new here, it can be very difficult for them, especially if they bought bitcoin near ATH.

In 2023, we saw good local growth, for many it became encouraging, by the way, I was expecting a local growth, but at the same time I expected that it would be temporary and, as we see, a local correction is taking place now. I did not wait for this time, but continued to buy bitcoin, because although I expected a subsequent correction, I was still afraid of making a mistake, because there was a possibility of further growth. Even now, I assume that the growth may continue to 29-30k and then further decline will follow, perhaps we will be in anticipation of the beginning of the bull market all of 2023.

I do believe that it is good to just continue to buy BTC on a regular basis especially if you consider yourself to be personally in an accumulation stage, and buying regularly is one of the best ways to just ongoingly continue to make progress in terms of building the number of BTC (satoshis) that you have.

At the same time, for sure you can keep a bit of fiat on the side for buying on dips and even allocate some of that money that you are holding to the side to buy at certain price points (if those price points are ever reached) while at the same time, recognizing that it is possible that your money in reserve that is held for buying on dips might not get spent because they BTC price might not go down to the price points that you have assigned for those various allocated amounts... and you can continue to reassess along the way regarding how much money that you want to hold in reserves for such possible buying. and sometimes there can be some frustration if the BTC price is going up and you have not employed those reserves yet the longer that you are in bitcoin, then it is likely that the less bothered that you become about continuing to hold some money in reserves that does not ever seem to get spent.

Sometimes I have a desire to try my hand at trading, to allocate some small part for this, but I don’t have much time for this, and yet I am an investor and not a trader, but I have a desire to multiply my bitcoins.

Of course, it is very tempting to want to engage in trading, and personally, I do not consider it to be a good idea to sell bitcoin with the thought of buying back lower, even though sometimes you can sell a little bit on the way up, especially if the BTC price is seeming to go up outrageously a lot and then just hold that money on the side in case the BTC price goes back down.. yet part of the problem comes when you might get frustrated if you are selling too much BTC too soon.. so sometimes it can be tough to find a system that is comfortable for you without causing you to get frustrated.. and then also comfortable in such a way that you are not increasingly tempted into playing BIGGER and BIGGER and BIGGER in terms of the quantity that you might be selling on the way up.. and then you end up without hardly any bitcoin if the BTC price keeps going up..... Many times, people find ways to just avoid selling bitcoin on the way up.. but there can be ways that if you accumulate way more BTC than you expected on the dip, then you can sell some of that bitcoin at various points on the way up.. and yeah, sometimes it can be a time suck to be trying to figure out where to place your orders. and then frustrations that might be involved when you are trying to figure out what the BTC price is going to do.. which is difficult even for folks who spend most of their time watching BTC charts (and looking at other matters that they believe might affect the BTC price in one direction or another).

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Probably those who have been dealing with bitcoin for about 5 years will be more calm in this situation, because they understand the cyclicality, how a bear market and a bull market replace each other. And for those who are relatively new here, it can be very difficult for them, especially if they bought bitcoin near ATH.
But at least they already know about the history of the bitcoin cycle alternating bearish and bullish it still has its period but I believe those who understand this cycle they won't mind even if it buys bitcoin close to ATH, they will definitely think for 5 next year the price will change from the current ATH price.
Nothing is difficult if they believe enough that bitcoin is long term eg 1 decade hold.

In 2023, we saw good local growth, for many it became encouraging, by the way, I was expecting a local growth, but at the same time I expected that it would be temporary and, as we see, a local correction is taking place now. I did not wait for this time, but continued to buy bitcoin, because although I expected a subsequent correction, I was still afraid of making a mistake, because there was a possibility of further growth. Even now, I assume that the growth may continue to 29-30k and then further decline will follow, perhaps we will be in anticipation of the beginning of the bull market all of 2023.
The growth of bitcoin was quite early in January so that now it can still stay above $ 20K and has experienced a correction due to the silvergate news that went bankrupt, indeed this is the right moment to buy bitcoin in any way because if you keep thinking about growth of $ 30,000 then it is still very far, bitcoin is currently still on hold and hasn't been able to make a good recovery but now just take the time and put some money aside and buy bitcoins.

I attempted to buy yesterday at $22,300

Sometimes I have a desire to try my hand at trading, to allocate some small part for this, but I don’t have much time for this, and yet I am an investor and not a trader, but I have a desire to multiply my bitcoins.
For me trading is quite complicated because I have to monitor chart movements while an investor can only do it quite simply by buying bitcoins and this is not as difficult as short-term trading.

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Now bitcoin is preparing to reach another ATH. Are you still there and holding your bitcoins? What happened to your life after 10 years in bitcoin? Is there any changes?
I've not spent up to 10 years in bitcoin, I discovered bitcoin in  late 2015, I watched it all through 2016, i bought my first bitcoin in late 2016, so if I should calculate from that, i would say that, this year, 2023 will make me seven(7) years in bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general.

And yes, my life have become better, much more better than I have ever imagined, Bitcoin have indeed given me a reason to always be hopeful for some thing good, through bitcoin and cryptocurrency investments, I achieved a lot of things I never thought I could by this time.
Bitcoin have improved and changed a lot of lives, I am one of those lives, and I am really thankful.

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Now bitcoin is preparing to reach another ATH. Are you still there and holding your bitcoins? What happened to your life after 10 years in bitcoin? Is there any changes?
I've not spent up to 10 years in bitcoin, I discovered bitcoin in  late 2015, I watched it all through 2016, i bought my first bitcoin in late 2016, so if I should calculate from that, i would say that, this year, 2023 will make me seven(7) years in bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general.

And yes, my life have become better, much more better than I have ever imagined, Bitcoin have indeed given me a reason to always be hopeful for some thing good, through bitcoin and cryptocurrency investments, I achieved a lot of things I never thought I could by this time.
Bitcoin have improved and changed a lot of lives, I am one of those lives, and I am really thankful.
Most of us here where affected as we discovered bitcoin and become a daily part of our lives just like our local currency. We won't be in this forum today if bitcoin affects us negatively, Personally I learned so many life lessons as well as financial lessons that somehow make me realize to trust the technology and industry we are into. I believe I'm a very different person if bitcoin or cryptocurrency didn't exist given that I will learned and devote my life to other things which may change my career or persistency in doing good in my financial situations. I'm just speculating but there a high chance that bitcoin and cryptocurrency being involved at our life affects us in a positive way because we won't really last this long if this sucks our daily energy and turned out to be a negative thing to us.
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I guess that prudence and patience are among the biggest learnings and principles that those could gather who have been around for a long time. I can tell that my decisions became better over time the longer I exposed myself to the market and the more I dealt with the topic decentralization/cryptography both just for fun but also in depth scientifically as an academic.

But I can say one thing for sure: I have not really been into stocks before I got into crypto. Just a bit, but never to the extent like when crypto got me excited and I became research addicted. In the beginning, the first bull runs actually spoiled my idea of markets and investing in general. When something goes up 10x (traded alt coins as well back at the time) and you have never had any really significant exposures to markets before, you start thinking for that moment that there is some normality to such a market movement. Even worse you start thinking that markets are great to make a lot of money in a short period of time. And that is damn wrong! You can of course, but the shorter the time horizon, the more of a gamble the whole thing becomes, especially when you work with leverage, as you pointed out. Those are all important aspects that I learnt along the journey and I can say that it significantly helped me get through the bear markets. I didn't care when it dumped, I slept well. I understood that crypto is a different beast, a little child that is still prone to attacks from all angles and the price will reflect that one way or another.

But if I joined crypto just recently and I would have suffered from the price drop of roughly 70%, I would feel like trash. I know because very early on I put money on the line that I could not afford to lose. That is roughly a decade ago. The day I chose to do that was among the most volatile days I've witnessed so far and I couldn't sleep for a second and was just staring at the charts with sweat on my forehead. In retrospect it was a great and fun valuable lesson and luckily, I got through it well more or less! Cheesy

I am a little bothered by your emphasis on trading and crypto (aka shitcoins), but I appreciate that you share aspects of your story in terms of what seems to be that you learned some things about the dangers of short term thinking and also what seems to be likely risks of leverage.  In the end, hopefully you are going to be able to continue in bitcoin in terms of longer term thinking and learn to shirk off some the temptations to be involved in crypto/shitcoin trading unless it perhaps might serve as ONLY a smaller aspect of your overall approach.. but hey each fo us learns in our own way, and by the way some folks who get caught up in shitcoins, and trading in ways that seem to be gambling and leverage do not really seem to learn how to manage their gambling tendencies. .and then they end up getting fucked down the road, because sometimes when you gamble and trade with too much passion/leverage, you may well end up having a large number of "wins" (even 20 or more) and then one loss can wipe out a vast majority of your previous gains.. especially if you do not figure out ways to employ relatively prudent risk management strategies, and some of the traders/gamblers believe that they can "get it all back" if they lose it, which truly is a fools way of thinking.. so for sure there needs to be care when employing gambling, leverage and/or getting involved in shitcoins (including using the term "crypto" without specifying or actually showing that you actually know the difference between bitcoin and shitcoins).

Oh no, first of all the story I told you happened with Bitcoin actually. As I said, I traded alt coins as well back at the time. It was the time when Cryptsy was still around and coins like Darkcoin (DASH today) and ridiculous shit coins like Sexcoin and god knows what else came up. I can't even exactly tell when it was, perhaps like Summer 2013 onwards? Can't remember exactly. But back at the time it was also fun to play around a bit with whatever came up. I would say it was like a digital casino, but as at the time the number of people getting into crypto literally exploded, even the shittiest of the shit coins went up.

It was also the time when I learned "not your keys not your crypto" when Big Vern from Cryptsy decided to steal millions of dollars in digital funds and allegedly escaped to China. Frankly speaking, I did have coins on there, but not that I intended to leave them there, I had them on the exchange for a short while because I was going to trade them as I already went through the Mt. Gox drama. Out of a sudden withdrawals were blocked, everyone became nervous, the support kept saying that it is all good, and then... game over. Service not available anymore.

I very rarely trade alt coins these days and if I do, it is 99% on decentralized exchanges. I don't deem a coin like Monero a shit coin. But that's up to everyone's opinion.

Did you ever trade alt coins? I mean there is no Bitcoiner that I know who truly never touched an alt coin. Even if it is just playing around with something like Monero, but never ever? Hard to believe if that is the case. Wink

But to sum this up, my understanding and stance on cryptocurrencies and how to manage them has fundamentally changed compared to about a decade ago. My point was that I was lucky to have made that experience so early on because that was a time when you didn't even get punished necessarily for buying a shit coin. Today you do and that is why I recommend fiercely to stay away from them, but I can understand when someone completely new to the space feels tempted. It was no different for me in the early days. That is what I wanted to convey. Wink

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March 07, 2023, 06:46:20 AM
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Now bitcoin is preparing to reach another ATH. Are you still there and holding your bitcoins? What happened to your life after 10 years in bitcoin? Is there any changes?
I've not spent up to 10 years in bitcoin, I discovered bitcoin in  late 2015, I watched it all through 2016, i bought my first bitcoin in late 2016, so if I should calculate from that, i would say that, this year, 2023 will make me seven(7) years in bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general.

And yes, my life have become better, much more better than I have ever imagined, Bitcoin have indeed given me a reason to always be hopeful for some thing good, through bitcoin and cryptocurrency investments, I achieved a lot of things I never thought I could by this time.
Bitcoin have improved and changed a lot of lives, I am one of those lives, and I am really thankful.
Most of us here where affected as we discovered bitcoin and become a daily part of our lives just like our local currency. We won't be in this forum today if bitcoin affects us negatively, Personally I learned so many life lessons as well as financial lessons that somehow make me realize to trust the technology and industry we are into. I believe I'm a very different person if bitcoin or cryptocurrency didn't exist given that I will learned and devote my life to other things which may change my career or persistency in doing good in my financial situations. I'm just speculating but there a high chance that bitcoin and cryptocurrency being involved at our life affects us in a positive way because we won't really last this long if this sucks our daily energy and turned out to be a negative thing to us.
while getting to know bitcoin from 2017, indeed what I feel is changing my life which is to be wiser in using the money we have. in a concrete example, I can buy things that I need, not what I want, but indeed there is some money to fulfill our desires, because for me that is a way to reward myself. so that I feel I can buy a house, which was previously unthinkable for that, because property prices are expensive. it is not easy to change our minds, especially for those who are not married, of course the pleasures of life are the priority, and that is natural. until finally I got married and already had my own place to live. all of this is unconsciously influenced by our habits in trading, which must be able to control emotions and good money management, on the other hand, asset diversification I feel is very necessary, and in the end it is carried over to our daily lifestyle, and I'm sure it will be even greater for the next 10 years

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March 07, 2023, 06:57:13 AM
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since getting to know bitcoin my life has changed a bit because since I first knew bitcoin I was immediately interested and wanted to learn more details how bitcoin performs and until now I have invested in bitcoin even though the profit I get is not so great but many things I have fulfilled using the results of bitcoin, so in the future I will continue to try to get greater profits because bitcoin has always been  can surprise users.


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March 07, 2023, 07:39:54 AM
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Now bitcoin is preparing to reach another ATH. Are you still there and holding your bitcoins? What happened to your life after 10 years in bitcoin? Is there any changes?
Bitcoin has changed my life a lot. I'm still sticking with Bitcoin. I bought and invested in Bitcoin when the price was down. Bitcoin price will increase in future. But I have some failure stories. I have been given many opportunities in life but I have failed to utilize most of them. But if 2024 bitcoin halving I will leave all my investment and if the market is dumping again then I will invest again. But I learned a lot from sticking to Bitcoin.

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