Newbies/Jr members please don't beg for merits.

[Pmalek]

What is the difference begging merits and begging for something else ? I just found these rules, and according to them it is not allowed.

Forum rules

7. No begging. [5]

You are correct, I completely forgot that we have a no begging rule, although I don't know to what extent it's being enforced and what is the punishment for begging. A simple deletion of posts, or being shown the exit door in case of multiple attempts.

This user have been here since 2019 but didn't earn even 1 merit, probably didn't read the forum rules and guides on how to earn merit on the forum. He also probably earned that 1 merit through PMing another user just before your screenshot.

He got it for a post that surely doesn't deserve any merits. Check the post by DdmrDdmr from above. Although everyone has the right to merit anything and anyone they feel like, this kind of post is certainly not what is supposed to be merited. 

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[erikoy]

Despite the rulings OP still gave the member a merit. This is an act maybe violated by the one who ask or beg for it but it is also the fault if the one giving the merit. Well, it is not bad though to gave merits and it is a discretion for the one to give it or not. If I were the one being asked or beg for the merits then I would suggest for him to post something quality so that I can give him the merit/s.

[Pmalek]

Despite the rulings OP still gave the member a merit.

No, Taskford wasn't the one who merited that user. If you check his merit history here, you will see it wasn't him > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=751988.
Check the above post I wrote and the one I linked by DdmrDdmr that mentions what the user got merited for. I haven't found the name of the user who begged for those merits though. 

[AakZaki]

Received a few private message where the senders where begging for merit, some of the message with different partners but had that merit begging instinct, when a newbie think they are lost, under the bus or not capable, I give few advice and point out to look for your strength -what your speck in the forum is- then go to work on it.
Don't beg for merit, instead beg for knowledge, because in time you would see thats where merit lay.

I agree with you, whatever it is asking for merit is something I don't like. If there is, then I will not reply to the message. Actually if they understand about the quality of the post they should be aware. Whether it's friends or people who don't know in this forum, if you have quality posts that are useful and meet the standards, then getting merit is easy.

[Neolan]

I am new but I know all the rules of btt. I don't pm or dm someone for merits. it's very bad things for newbies they don't know if someone reported to their post to moderator maybe their account for limited time. Correct me if I wrong. Many Person who helped newbies with their topic .

[Taskford]

Despite the rulings OP still gave the member a merit. This is an act maybe violated by the one who ask or beg for it but it is also the fault if the one giving the merit. Well, it is not bad though to gave merits and it is a discretion for the one to give it or not. If I were the one being asked or beg for the merits then I would suggest for him to post something quality so that I can give him the merit/s.

Nope I didn't give any merit to the user since it's not good to give merit to those user who ask for it since I believe merit should be earn.

There is a thread where OGgNasty created which can help them earn their very first merit for just doing some task he ask there.

For newbies just click the link below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275043.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289839.0

[Lordrift]

Most of the newbies here begging for the merits are simply here to make money from the bounty sections and not contribute towards raising this forum. And at such, users that take such actions should be made to understand what they are really here for.

[tyz]

After closing those topics, I received several unwanted private messages in which newbies begged me for merits.
I didn’t give them a negative or neutral trust but I will think about it next time.
Newbie members should learn how to be patient and how to raise the quality of their forum posts.

If they were normal users, it would still be good. I myself get such PNs on a regular basis after writing that I am a merit source. Over time, I noticed that the usernames of the Merit beggars are similar or follow a pattern. Then I looked at the mostly one or two line posts of the users and also noticed similarities. So I came to the decision that it was a matter of professional account farmers who would quickly develop them into higher ranks and then be sold.

[cheezcarls]

Some of my crypto contacts from the past who are inactive on Bitcointalk right now are begging or exchanging merits. This is why they are getting a ban hammer on this forum. They even asked me back then, but I choose to ignore and just earn merits naturally. A scammer named elmanchez also did asked me to have merit exchanging (before he exit scammed via loan default), but I choose not to and told him that it is a very bad idea. Because of that, he removed my green trust (coz' I've "donated" a small amount to him and didn't know he was an exit scammer back then) like he was frowning I believe.

Anyways to the newbies and Jr. members, if you really want to earn merits, try come up with a valuable topic or reply or info that catches good attention to the community without any expectations at all. For sure, you'll get one. Patience is a virtue.

[Latviand]

Newbie users like that are so annoying because they want something instantly.

It is really hard to give them the things that they want without even doing something to earn it.

Do your best always so that you can earn merit that you want because merit is not that easy to earn especially that it only belongs to those who deserved it.

[Mpamaegbu]

I've recently received a PM from a user who was close to ranking up, and who proposed me to check out his posts and consider Meriting them. I did not find that problematic and I didn't interpret it as begging.

However, sending messages purely begging for Merit - meaning: without actually explaining why you would deserve Merit - will probably lead to me leaving (neutral) feedback on your profile, like this guy.

Even, from the guy's username, it is obvious the user isn't a serious minded person. I don't bother reading mails from users like that for they're clearly spammers.

[Mrengage]

For newbies and Jr members out there please stop begging for merits to any users here since instead of ranking up you will possibly get a red trust from the other user since begging is been discourage.

Just do a pure effort to have a healthy discussion and became a good contributor here since the merit you want will follow if people see your post is merit worthy.

I receive a message today from a user see pic below.



For high ranking members If you see any newbies or Jr members please advise them the proper way to earn merits so that they can improve and became better member, reporting then cannot do anything good.

Hopefully newbies will take this advice/message and will not beg for anything here.

They don't know merits are easy to get when you devot your time to bring up something that will help the forum to grow. Not on begging. Put your brain to work and you will surly get a reward.

[Timmzzy]

For newbies and Jr members out there please stop begging for merits to any users here since instead of ranking up you will possibly get a red trust from the other user since begging is been discourage.

Just do a pure effort to have a healthy discussion and became a good contributor here since the merit you want will follow if people see your post is merit worthy.

I receive a message today from a user see pic below.



For high ranking members If you see any newbies or Jr members please advise them the proper way to earn merits so that they can improve and became better member, reporting then cannot do anything good.

Hopefully newbies will take this advice/message and will not beg for anything here.

How wish they can just have patience out their head to work. Sure they will get merits. When I take a look at my merits I will be like how did I get this far trust me it's not magic. It's just a devoted time I pulled in to help the forum especially the newbies to understood what they never knew before now.

[Nelkel007]

@taskford Thank you so much for this briefing. This is indeed an eye opener. Please newbies let's follow due process, by obeying the rules. I believe if we keep contributing to this forum, especially to this board. We will have a down pour of merits showering on us.lets not be in a hurry. Learn from the elders.☺️

[KaratX]

It's not really that hard to earn merits on this forum, it's a big shame asking people for merits when there is informations on this forum about how you can easily earn merit, the fact is don't put focus on earning merits but instead focus on making contributions, help people out in whatever difficulty they are facing consigning any crypto related issue and you will earn merits one way or the other

[Bholutefe]

It is not too ideal to private chat other members for merits, it might look as if the person is actually desperate to get one, patience is the main key to earn good merits. As a new member, it is advisable to take your time to contribute earnestly to the forum by having a critical thinking on whatsoever post or topics we are contributing to. Although, the merit is not as easy as it seems bet I beleive that persistency is one of those keys to earning an excellent series of merits on this forum. There is no need to be in an haste to earning merits,  our meaningful posts would earn us merits which I believe.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

It is not too ideal to private chat other members for merits, it might look as if the person is actually desperate to get one, patience is the main key to earn good merits. As a new member, it is advisable to take your time to contribute earnestly to the forum by having a critical thinking on whatsoever post or topics we are contributing to. Although, the merit is not as easy as it seems bet I beleive that persistency is one of those keys to earning an excellent series of merits on this forum. There is no need to be in an haste to earning merits,  our meaningful posts would earn us merits which I believe.

You have a pretty good mindset, mate, that we should not be hasty and too desperate to earn merits just to make our account rank up because we will only get ourselves in trouble that our account could get banned or get a negative trust. Newcomers or beginners should definitely read the rules and regulations of this forum first before they engage so that they would know the dos and don'ts.

[yemight600]

Mostly people want it to join the signature and bounty campaign. One part wants it to create trust for others in currency exchanges(In this case I think feedback is of more importance.)

Indeed most newcomers that come to this forum want to rank up for that purpose although there's no much campaign which accepts jr members. In regards to currency exchange with the others I think having jr member or higher rank doesn't immediately increase the people trust on you and as you said before feedback is the most important in this case, it's worthless if you have lots of negative feedback even though you are in a high rank.

However begging for merits is the wrong way to rank up no matter whats the reason behind it.

This is a notable factor. But i actually noticed that newbies and jr members spams the forum the most. And this is because they want to increase in rank so they can have higher chance of signing signatures. I think enlightening them is the best giving and deleting a spam message and sending a warning message to spammers but giving them negative  trust won't help them.

[AniviaBtc]

What a shame for those newbies who are begging for merit without doing something to earn it.

Right now, we really need a much more effective user here, those who can share knowledges, thoughts, ideas, information, and etc, effectively.

If you will only beg for merits then you should change your mindset. It is not that easy to earn merits that's why other users are doing their best so that they can earn the merits that they deserve. This forum are now composed of newbies who are lazy enough to learn and understand why we have a community like this.

[Axodin]

Thanks for your nice advice.  I learned a lot from your post.  Getting merit by begging can never be a matter of pride.  I will always try to gain merit by posting well.  Because I believe that the thing that is hard to find is very satisfying.  If I can collaborate with others with informative and knowledgeable posts then of course I will get merit.  It may hurt me and take a little longer.  But in the end, this habit will take me a long way.