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December 06, 2020, 07:09:39 AM
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Let's be totally honest here. a substantial number of people are on Bitcointalk to earn bitcoin through campaigns, and as long as you're not a sleazy spammer, I really don't blame you. Why? Other than maybe some people here live in poor countries, who doesn't like to earn bitcorns by simply talking to people?

Now the problem is earning bitcoin through signature campaigns isn't really scalable. Why? All the campaigns has a maximum weekly post count, and if you want to increase your monthly earning, the only thing you can do is to join a better signature campaign. But once you manage to join the highest paying campaign, your potential earnings growth is more or less capped already.

So, how do you earn more bitcoin, and in a scalable manner then?

Psst.. you. don't. need. to. earn. everything. through. Bitcointalk. The world wide web is a wonderful place with opportunities everywhere. Look around and have some side hustles!

But since I don't want to leave you empty handed,here are some choices:

1. Create a bitcoin or cryptocurrency related "tool" website: Create something really useful that people would actually visit and share your website. A good example would be Coin.dance, jochen-hoenicke.de, bitcoin.org, and of course Bitcointalk.org. These sites have received a good amount of coins through donations and sponsorships.

2. Create a bitcoin or cryptocurrency related blog: The Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency space is still really new, and you can take advantage of the missing online content through seo. Just look around Google! Can't find a guide on how to effectively coinjoin through Samourai wallet? Create a guide while following seo guidelines! Just create a good amount of articles and add some decent crypto referral links here and there like Trezor or Binance, and you'll be earning coins in no time.

3. Get hired online or offline and receive your salary in bitcoin: should be self-explanatory.

"But.. but.. I'm not a bitcoin or cryptocurrency expert..

Ok, you're not interested in going inside the bitcoin rabbit hole but still want to take advantage of bitcoin's price increase and monetary attributes? That's completely fine! Not everyone needs to be a Bitcoin "expert". If everyone needs to be an expert to be able to take advantage of Bitcoin, then we're totally fucked.

"So.. how do I earn bitcoin then?"

Take my 3 previous examples, and just substitute everything related to bitcoin and cryptocurrency to something you're passionate or knowledgeable of.

Instead of creating a bitcoin website or blog, probably create a website about planting succulents or how to play bongo drums or something. Or maybe, just start selling clothing or waifu pillows online or something like that.

"But.. but.. then I'm earning filthy fiat, not bitcoin..


While it's undoubtedly preferable to be paid in bitcoin due to privacy reasons, you can.. you know.. just use the filthy fiat you earned to buy bitcoin! No sweat! (use Bisq)

"But.. but.. I have no skills to sell online..


Well shit, you're out of luck. Either go work at Wendy's or McDonalds, or stop fucking spending all your extra time playing World of Warcraft and watching anime. Do something productive for once and learn a future-proof marketable trade like programming. There are so much FREE content out there! and if you become good enough, you could even make contributions to Bitcoin!
  • codeacademy.com
  • udemy.com
  • coursera.org

In summary: stop limiting yourself. exert extra effort to be able to stack more sats because you won't regret it.

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3. Get hired online or offline and receive your salary in bitcoin: should be self-explanatory.

You are starving to death? Find a food and eat it.
You are homeless? Go buy a hause
You need money? GO FIND A JOB Smiley

Pritty much nothing new in here.


1. Create a bitcoin or cryptocurrency related "tool" website: Create something really useful that people would actually visit and share your website. A good example would be Coin.dance, jochen-hoenicke.de, bitcoin.org, and of course Bitcointalk.org. These sites have received a good amount of coins through donations and sponsorships.

2. Create a bitcoin or cryptocurrency related blog: The Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency space is still really new, and you can take advantage of the missing online content through seo. Just look around Google! Can't find a guide on how to effectively coinjoin through Samourai wallet? Create a guide while following seo guidelines! Just create a good amount of articles and add some decent crypto referral links here and there like Trezor or Binance, and you'll be earning coins in no time.

If you have programming skills good enough to make web on your own than will be competitive to mentioned by you ... you are in demand on the labor market and you never have and will never have problems with cash



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December 06, 2020, 08:59:43 AM
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You are starving to death? Find a food and eat it.
You are homeless? Go buy a hause
You need money? GO FIND A JOB Smiley

Pritty much nothing new in here.
Pretty much nothing new here because you're obviously not the target audience of this thread. Not sure why you decided to respond to start with.

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December 06, 2020, 09:04:23 AM
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Pretty much nothing new here because you're obviously not the target audience of this thread. Not sure why you decided to respond to start with.

Looks like target of your post is a programmer with years of experience that for some reason don't know how to earn few pennies. So i guess ... no one?

Why i have responded? Maybe to put some light on how great those tips are? Did you think that you will get "thanks for tips i need money but i didn't think about getting a job" answers?
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December 06, 2020, 09:29:32 AM
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You mentioned the ways to earn money which requires a good knowledge about Information technology before you can create a website, it will require you first the knowledge about programming, basic design and securing it, so as a normal person I don't think that I can apply those tips you have given on me because I don't have good knowledge with those things. It would be great if you mention some works that can do with simple knowledge and not a technical one.

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3. Get hired online or offline and receive your salary in bitcoin: should be self-explanatory.

You are starving to death? Find a food and eat it.
You are homeless? Go buy a hause
You need money? GO FIND A JOB Smiley

Pritty much nothing new in here.
It's not the same though. You'd be surprised how many people think that the only way to acquire bitcoin is by buying it with fiat. They need to be reminded that they can also get paid in bitcoin, whether their full salary for a new job they get hired for or for their old job and part of their salary in bitcoin.
Those who are self-employed could also add the option to receive the payment in bitcoin (like a merchant selling goods for bitcoin to whoever that asked for it).

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December 06, 2020, 12:05:24 PM
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Let's be totally honest here. a substantial number of people are on Bitcointalk to earn bitcoin through campaigns, and as long as you're not a sleazy spammer, I really don't blame you. Why? Other than maybe some people here live in poor countries, who doesn't like to earn bitcorns by simply talking to people?

Now the problem is earning bitcoin through signature campaigns isn't really scalable. Why? All the campaigns has a maximum weekly post count, and if you want to increase your monthly earning, the only thing you can do is to join a better signature campaign. But once you manage to join the highest paying campaign, your potential earnings growth is more or less capped already.

So, how do you earn more bitcoin, and in a scalable manner then?

Psst.. you. don't. need. to. earn. everything. through. Bitcointalk. The world wide web is a wonderful place with opportunities everywhere. Look around and have some side hustles!

But since I don't want to leave you empty handed,here are some choices:

1. Create a bitcoin or cryptocurrency related "tool" website: Create something really useful that people would actually visit and share your website. A good example would be Coin.dance, jochen-hoenicke.de, bitcoin.org, and of course Bitcointalk.org. These sites have received a good amount of coins through donations and sponsorships.

2. Create a bitcoin or cryptocurrency related blog: The Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency space is still really new, and you can take advantage of the missing online content through seo. Just look around Google! Can't find a guide on how to effectively coinjoin through Samourai wallet? Create a guide while following seo guidelines! Just create a good amount of articles and add some decent crypto referral links here and there like Trezor or Binance, and you'll be earning coins in no time.

3. Get hired online or offline and receive your salary in bitcoin: should be self-explanatory.

"But.. but.. I'm not a bitcoin or cryptocurrency expert..

Ok, you're not interested in going inside the bitcoin rabbit hole but still want to take advantage of bitcoin's price increase and monetary attributes? That's completely fine! Not everyone needs to be a Bitcoin "expert". If everyone needs to be an expert to be able to take advantage of Bitcoin, then we're totally fucked.

"So.. how do I earn bitcoin then?"

Take my 3 previous examples, and just substitute everything related to bitcoin and cryptocurrency to something you're passionate or knowledgeable of.

Instead of creating a bitcoin website or blog, probably create a website about planting succulents or how to play bongo drums or something. Or maybe, just start selling clothing or waifu pillows online or something like that.

"But.. but.. then I'm earning filthy fiat, not bitcoin..


While it's undoubtedly preferable to be paid in bitcoin due to privacy reasons, you can.. you know.. just use the filthy fiat you earned to buy bitcoin! No sweat! (use Bisq)

"But.. but.. I have no skills to sell online..


Well shit, you're out of luck. Either go work at Wendy's or McDonalds, or stop fucking spending all your extra time playing World of Warcraft and watching anime. Do something productive for once and learn a future-proof marketable trade like programming. There are so much FREE content out there! and if you become good enough, you could even make contributions to Bitcoin!
  • codeacademy.com
  • udemy.com
  • coursera.org

In summary: stop limiting yourself. exert extra effort to be able to stack more sats because you won't regret it.
I'm not thinking badly about what you're saying here about people having a hard time getting Bitcoin for your solution, but keep in mind, it's not easy to give a solution to a lot of people just for that reason, because a lot of people earn bitcoin from following campaigns like blogs, videos and social media signatures, maybe if you don't get bitcoin for what you have done in the campaign, it means you are out of luck and have to try other jobs according to your skills so you can easily earn Bitcoin.

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December 06, 2020, 12:33:15 PM
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Looks like target of your post is a programmer with years of experience that for some reason don't know how to earn few pennies. So i guess ... no one?
In OP's defense, only the first point actually requires programming knowledge; and even with that, you don't even need literally years of knowledge to start a decent site. In today's day and age, you can run a blog or an online business with zero programming experience. I know this because I myself started both with knowing literally nothing about programming.

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December 06, 2020, 12:44:10 PM
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I like that there is substance in your post that people can use. Unfortunately this is how our genetics work. We feel safe inside our comfort zone until something shows up that motivates us enough to step out of it and go after the things we wish.

The space is still young and there are few experts that you can count on. I'm actually trying to build a personal brand around cryptocurrencies and finances in general. Remember to always have a higher purpose in mind. Don't do it for the money. It is not worth it.
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December 06, 2020, 12:47:32 PM
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Looks like target of your post is a programmer with years of experience that for some reason don't know how to earn few pennies. So i guess ... no one?

Why i have responded? Maybe to put some light on how great those tips are? Did you think that you will get "thanks for tips i need money but i didn't think about getting a job" answers?
Not sure if it's a language barrier thing, but you're really missing the point. It seems like you didn't read the topic at all if you think I'm only targeting programmers with years of experience.

It's not the same though. You'd be surprised how many people think that the only way to acquire bitcoin is by buying it with fiat. They need to be reminded that they can also get paid in bitcoin, whether their full salary for a new job they get hired for or for their old job and part of their salary in bitcoin.
Those who are self-employed could also add the option to receive the payment in bitcoin (like a merchant selling goods for bitcoin to whoever that asked for it).
Fortunately someone gets it.

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December 06, 2020, 01:05:23 PM
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everyone has expertise in their respective fields, not necessarily in this forum. But make no mistake, people who have been on this forum for a long time know what they are doing.
I thought why not with an autograph campaign, if you were proficient and able to keep up.
for me diving can be done today, so do it. not everyone is good at creating websites like you mentioned in the thread. but everyone can be proficient in this forum if diligent and sincere. just follow any campaign rules. and do it with all my heart.

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December 06, 2020, 01:53:11 PM
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Looks like target of your post is a programmer with years of experience that for some reason don't know how to earn few pennies. So i guess ... no one?
In OP's defense, only the first point actually requires programming knowledge; and even with that, you don't even need literally years of knowledge to start a decent site. In today's day and age, you can run a blog or an online business with zero programming experience. I know this because I myself started both with knowing literally nothing about programming.
I'd have to second this one. My cousin's boyfriend, as far as I know, don't have any background in programming. He's taking up AB Theology and for sure that doesn't involve programming much. His skill is only on writing and is self-taught on web designing but now, his blog is starting to earn slowly and his efforts are paying off.

Well, my point is, if you really want to do something, you'll do something to make it happen, whether it's has something to do with crypto or not. The last part of OPs post says it all — stop limiting yourself.

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December 06, 2020, 02:10:14 PM
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It is not easy to earn Bitcoin. And even if you have a job which pays you well, it is not in Bitcoin most of the time. How many actual jobs out there, the normal ones I mean, which really make payment in salaries in Bitcoin? I guess there are too few of them, even none in countries where Bitcoin is not that known and regulated.

So what is the easiest option? Continue with your job and if you have some idle hours left and also some energy of course, you may choose to take another job or spend hours learning something which you could eventually use to earn more. Needless to say, buy Bitcoin with your savings.
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December 06, 2020, 03:32:23 PM
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I think this step not suitable for new comer, especially for person without programming knowledge.

From programmer side : So far, i can get income from bitcoin because i sell my service / my code to help altcoin to have ecosystem and grow with them. Sometimes i need to learn more technique / new programming language to get better knowledge, as we know technology moving very fast

From inexperienced user: this is not easy. We believe everyone can get online tutorial or cracked tutorial easily on the net, but it's not easy to learn for non technical user. So it's different story now. They have running out of time and food

Inexperienced user still can get bitcoin in any other way, they can not rely on this way to full fill their life.

But this is other way to get bitcoin
Example :
1. Make and write a useful blogs/website and join third party advertising. CPC/CPM
   This is also my my income, i can get more than $20 per day from btc, but it require time to build
2. Claiming faucet
   This is not worth way
3. Joining PPC
   This is not worth way
4. Campaign in bitcointalk
   Most of them use bitcointalk to have btc
5. Content creator(text/video)
   Worth to do, but most of them paid by fiat
   

When we talk with programmer it's more easy to understand, but it different story with new comer

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December 06, 2020, 04:37:33 PM
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Well, my point is, if you really want to do something, you'll do something to make it happen, whether it's has something to do with crypto or not. The last part of OPs post says it all — stop limiting yourself.

Isn't that one of those universal truths? If you are really hungry, you'll find something to eat, even if it's some root or a bug. OP's advice is like extending a helping hand towards a lazy coach potato stuck with his nose in a phone who would like to have money but cannot figure out a way to make some.
We can look at it from another perspective though. Some people just cannot make it work without someone else pushing them to do it.

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December 06, 2020, 04:52:14 PM
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Yeah, tldr for me really. It's really simple, and it's not even really a question of Bitcoin. People need to understand and see it as money. And what do you do to earn money? You work.

If you can't get paid in BTC (and no, it's not very easy to convince employers to go through that administrative and possible legal hassle) then you can always buy your own. And if you want it automated, now there are so many services out there like Bitwage (and I think even a new FDIC insured crypto debit card launched last week for Americans). My exchange lets you deposit salary there and get an automated % of it converted to BTC.

Point is, you really don't have to do much different to get BTC. You might not be able to earn it, but it's the easiest currency in the world to buy online...

You need money? GO FIND A JOB Smiley

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December 06, 2020, 05:29:33 PM
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2. Create a bitcoin or cryptocurrency related blog: The Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency space is still really new, and you can take advantage of the missing online content through seo. Just look around Google! Can't find a guide on how to effectively coinjoin through Samourai wallet? Create a guide while following seo guidelines! Just create a good amount of articles and add some decent crypto referral links here and there like Trezor or Binance, and you'll be earning coins in no time.


There are many ways to make money, yes it's not limited to only signature campaigns. Create a crypto-related blog probably isn't the easiest way and it takes a relatively long time to get the SEO to recommend your site. Offering skills or sell something online through some sites are a good option as well such as Upwork, Fiverr, wonder, or etsy. source
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December 06, 2020, 05:48:37 PM
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It is not easy to earn Bitcoin. And even if you have a job which pays you well, it is not in Bitcoin most of the time. How many actual jobs out there, the normal ones I mean, which really make payment in salaries in Bitcoin? I guess there are too few of them, even none in countries where Bitcoin is not that known and regulated.

So what is the easiest option? Continue with your job and if you have some idle hours left and also some energy of course, you may choose to take another job or spend hours learning something which you could eventually use to earn more. Needless to say, buy Bitcoin with your savings.


You're right, take the time you have to dig into something that pays off. whatever the current job, the key is to do it diligently. working hard is a principle that many people find difficult to have. for that if there is free time fill it with something useful.

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December 06, 2020, 09:45:15 PM
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It's not the same though. You'd be surprised how many people think that the only way to acquire bitcoin is by buying it with fiat. They need to be reminded that they can also get paid in bitcoin, whether their full salary for a new job they get hired for or for their old job and part of their salary in bitcoin.
Those who are self-employed could also add the option to receive the payment in bitcoin (like a merchant selling goods for bitcoin to whoever that asked for it).

Telling people to "sell your services for Bitcoin" is extremely common on this forum, so anyone who spent at list a little bit of time here already knows it. The problem is, no one is telling how to do this in detail, so it all sounds like that "if you're homeless - just buy a house" meme. And the reality of Bitcoin-paying jobs is that it's very hard to find them, so some in-depth advice would be much more appreciated than simply telling people to go find one.

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It is true that there are now individual employers who you can find at different subreddits or other platforms and forums that would like to pay bitcoin in any service that they look for. The idea of making a blog is good but it will take time for you to monetize it and you should be consistent while working on it.

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