~OgNasty's self scratching

[owlcatz]

Nice example. The fact that marlbozo is such a newbie they don’t know who senbonzakura was or how much of an influence he had on bitcointalk in the early days is excused by ignorance, but you Vod being such a pathetic troll as to not know how influential and deserving of leaving DT feedback his account is really shows the lack of trading experience you have here and why you can pretend you’re an old timer, but you know nothing about the happenings of bitcointalk in the early days because you have always been just a troll and never played an active role in trading or any sort of positive interaction in the community.

Honestly, you should both be embarrassed that the best example you could come up with is literally 1000x more deserving of having their feedback in DT than either of you. The ignorance is shocking and a perfect example of why moves like this are justified. Learn your bitcointalk history.

Newsflash - Nobody here, TODAY gives any fucks what this user did or did not do in the past.

This isn't about "Bitcointalk history" even though you claim to be an "expert". You always just twist words and turn shit around, such a filth-bag. Keep sending "nasty" PM's to people, it will keep your reputation higher as well I'm sure....

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[nutildah]

That being said, +81, +86 or +87 really doesn't matter much.

I would have to agree with this point. I doubt anyone is going to have their mind changed about if they are going to trust OgN with their money based on his changed trust score.

What does it say about a user from 2011 who keeps adjusting their trust list for the sole benefit of themselves, just to raise their already-high trust score by 6 measly points?

If I hadn't already excluded Og, I would exclude him again over this issue, as should anybody who values correct use of the trust system.

Here's Og's recent inclusions, all of which have left positive trust for Og (with the exception of nonnakip):

   achtung082 - hasn't left a trust rating since Feb 2018, hasn't posted since May 2019, no custom trust list.

   nonnakip - never left a trust rating, no custom trust list (obviously Og has nothing to gauge this user's ability to use the trust system correctly).

   senbonzakura - last trust rating left in 2013, last login 2013, no trust list

   rxalts - no problem here; rxalts doesn't reference his feedback often but not a real reason to not include somebody

   No_2 - this user doesn't have a trust list but their feedback seems to be appropriate, not a problem

   kingcolex - not a problem

   jonnybravo0311 - hasn't left a trust rating since 2016, no trust list

   ca333 - a semi-active user, don't have a problem with this user either

So only 4 of the 8 additions are questionable, 3 all of which pad his trust score; Og could have just not added those 4 and nobody would have flinched at the other 4. But because he is OgNasty, it just seems like he thinks he can do whatever he wants and it won't be challenged.

To the contingency that are overinvested in the OgNasty brand and will inevitably arrive to defend his legacy: whatever net good (arguably) someone did in the past isn't an excuse for them to do whatever they want now.

[suchmoon]

   nonnakip - never left a trust rating, no custom trust list (obviously Og has nothing to gauge this user's ability to use the trust system correctly).

Correction: nonnakip left one trust rating in 2013. I'm gonna let you guess who was the lucky recipient.

don’t know who senbonzakura was or how much of an influence he had on bitcointalk

Even if that was a legitimate reason to add someone to your trust list 7 years later... you skipped over hundreds of other influential users starting from satoshi and picked out the ones who completely accidentally happen to have green-trusted you. AKA lying your ass off.

[nutildah]

   nonnakip - never left a trust rating, no custom trust list (obviously Og has nothing to gauge this user's ability to use the trust system correctly).

Correction: nonnakip left one trust rating in 2013. I'm gonna let you guess who was the lucky recipient.

Oh, you're absolutely right. Don't know how I missed that one. Weird how Og cares so deeply about trust scores that he's willing to undermine the whole point of the trust system in order to raise his score.

As for the people who still include Og, I'm not going to be sending them PMs on the issue or anything, and perhaps they view his contributions as "good outweighs the bad"... But he's clearly adjusting his trust list to pad his score, and its not a good precedent to set for current and future DT members.

[OgNasty]

If I wanted to trust pad I could add literally hundreds to my score. I care about expanding my network and the logical place to start is with those who I have personally dealt with and/or know in real life.

I do love how people like suchmoon openly support trust abusers in the network, but have a problem with me adding trusted members. Seems fishy to me. Like her motivation isn’t a good trust network, but excluding older users to try and empower herself. This crabs in a bucket way of thinking needs to stop. You are making yourselves miserable and wasting my time. Grow up and start building on Bitcoin, supporting those that do, or shut the fuck up.

[suchmoon]

If I wanted to trust pad I could add literally hundreds to my score. I care about expanding my network and the logical place to start is with those who I have personally dealt with and/or know in real life.

You can do whatever you want with your "network". That's the beauty of the trust system. You just need to get kicked out of DT so that your self-scratching doesn't show up by default.

I do love how people like suchmoon openly support trust abusers in the network, but have a problem with me adding trusted members. Seems fishy to me. Like her motivation isn’t a good trust network, but excluding older users to try and empower herself. This crabs in a bucket way of thinking needs to stop. You are making yourselves miserable and wasting my time. Grow up and start building on Bitcoin, supporting those that do, or shut the fuck up.

As far as deflection attempts go this is quite weak. You ran out of excuses so now it's my fault?

You could try your own advice and support some actual Bitcoin stuff instead of blowing money on ponzis. But that still wouldn't make you any less of a trust abuser.

[nutildah]

Let's address the portion of the post that actually matters:

I care about expanding my network and the logical place to start is with those who I have personally dealt with and/or know in real life.

Not really. The logical place to "start" (you've had a custom trust list for years which you alter on a somewhat regular basis, so you're not really "starting" anything) is by adding people who you feel make good use of the trust system, not those who you've personally dealt with in real life (that's what trust ratings are for).

Surprised you never learned the difference.

[LoyceV]

~ they don’t know who senbonzakura was or how much of an influence he had on bitcointalk in the early days~
~how influential and deserving of leaving DT feedback his account is~

I just checked senbonzakura's last 20 posts and I can only conclude it's a good thing he's no longer active because many of his posts have zero or low value by today's standards. Adding him to DT2 also gave positive DT-feedback to a loan defaulter and a sold account.
If this guy is so important to be on DT, why did you wait 7 years to add him?

[OgNasty]

~ they don’t know who senbonzakura was or how much of an influence he had on bitcointalk in the early days~
~how influential and deserving of leaving DT feedback his account is~

I just checked senbonzakura's last 20 posts and I can only conclude it's a good thing he's no longer active because many of his posts have zero or low value by today's standards. Adding him to DT2 also gave positive DT-feedback to a loan defaulter and a sold account.
If this guy is so important to be on DT, why did you wait 7 years to add him?

I had him added, long before you ever joined bitcointalk. Anyone around who actually participated in the community back in 2011 likely knows him well. Had the trust system existed earlier, someone like sebon would likely still have one of the highest trust ratings on this forum. I removed him along with others listed here after being pestered with a thread nearly identical to this one a while back. Maybe someone can dig that up if you care. I don’t. I should have added them back long ago once I noticed this new DT wave of trash desperate to erase any history prior to their arrival.

[LoyceV]

Anyone around who actually participated in the community back in 2011 likely knows him well.

How is that relevant now?

Had the trust system existed earlier, someone like sebon would likely still have one of the highest trust ratings on this forum.

What's the point if he hasn't been here for 7 years?

I removed him along with others listed here after being pestered with a thread nearly identical to this one a while back. Maybe someone can dig that up if you care.

I can't find it: https://ninjastic.space/search?author=OgNasty&content=senbonzakura

I don’t.

Up to you if you don't want to back up your claim with evidence.

this new DT wave of trash

Calling people trash if you disagree doesn't make you more convincing.

desperate to erase any history prior to their arrival.

Nobody is erasing anything here.

[marlboroza]

Poor OG, he thinks that he is superior because he joined internet forum before someone else did.

who senbonzakura was

how much of an influence he had

Who is he now?

I should have added them back long ago once I noticed this new DT wave of trash desperate to erase any history prior to their arrival.

Cut the political crap, you included those users only because they sent you positive feedback. End of story.

[Laudanum]

Lol at this thread about self scratching as if self scratching is not the only reason these scammer and filthy scumbags are on DT.


The same pack of drooling noob trash scammers, extortionists and scammer supporters giving their " opinions" on how trustworthy the forums warden and his judgement is.  You can't make up how funny this is.

The entire system is based upon back scratching / self scratching

The undeniable merit cycling where all the slobbering dirt bags above can be found on each others top 20 merit fans and recipients all found on each others trust includes and all wearing chipmixer or the same old highest paying gambling sigs. All colluding in every argument.

Yeah I really want to hear

Nutildahs opinion - the proven willing scam facilitator?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190369.0


Owlcatz the proven extortionist and scammer supporter. Same scammer who was in on the same extortion


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286509.0

Lfcbitcoin  the proven liar, trust system manipulator and child sex fantasist oh yeah and scammers bitch who types only what it is allowed to

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136759.0


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264620.0

Suchmoron and moronbozo

These are chief scammer supporters as you can see by their deliberately preventing a legitimate flag warning on a proven scammers account

These are 2 dirty mongrels right there.


I'm sure the reader wants to hear their opinions on OG daring to add elder members with no evidence of financially motivated wrong doing in their histories.

The only problem with OG is he seems to be way too timid where theymos is concerned.
Removing a scammer tag from lauda was reprehensible and wrong.
That certainly was not in the best interest of the forum.

Regardless of which would I trust those that OG adds to his inclusions over every DT1 scumbag on this thread.

Yes. If you do you research you would too.

Lol at robovac. Stfu noob trash. Go spin up some raw data pulls from the servers and rank it into nice little charts for your daily merit morsels. Don't try and add support to you dirty pals arguments. You are a clear hindrance to any argument you try to support.
See how you tried to help attack nullius and I simply used your own moronic spew to drown you?

Get back to reading your kids tmans tourettes poetry whilst covering their eyes from that which they emerged.

Readers you have the links above I have kindly provided.  So you really think these people give one fuck about how trustworthy people on FT are?  Lol well they do actually. They dont want any trustworthy people on there hence why they want OG removed.

Read the independently verifiable evidence then review their " claims" of self scratching then ask yourselves why are they making these claims? What is their real agenda??

Lol at it being fine to include proven scammers, proven willing scam facilitators for pay, liars trust abusers and child sex obsessives and scammer protectors to DT but not some elder less active members who you may know well and are confident you can trust for real.

Read, research, understand then agree.

[Vod]

If I wanted to trust pad I could add literally hundreds to my score.

If I wanted to st in a sauna I'd go to my neighbours house.
But we both know our actions would get us in trouble.

That's why you do just enough to be tolerated.  You are lucky no one cares about you anymore.

I had him added, long before you ever joined bitcointalk. Anyone around who actually participated in the community back in 2011 likely knows him well.

I was there.   The only thing he ever did was give you positive tust, so you could add him to your network a decade later. 

[OgNasty]

You are lucky no one cares about you anymore.

Are you kidding? If I fart someone here makes a thread about my effect on the ozone layer. It’s actually hilarious how obsessed with me you and these users are. I get it though. You’ve all spent an insane amount of time trying to manipulate and control the trust network to bully users without consequence and here I am not giving a fuck about your demands. I can see how frustrating that is for you all, being so powerless to effect my opinion as I do what’s right regardless of how I’m effected, so you’re forced to lie through tears to the community in threads like this about honest users being added to the trust network.  

So Vod, how you gonna change your little algo to get you ranked ahead of philipma1957 in recognition now? I think you’ll have to do better than working with your partner suchmoon to try and bury philipma1957’s positive feedback by attacking my trust inclusions like we’re seeing here. How pathetic. People are going to start taking notice.

[owlcatz]

Are you kidding? If I fart someone here makes a thread about my effect on the ozone layer. It’s actually hilarious how obsessed with me you and these users are. I get it though. You’ve all spent an insane amount of time trying to manipulate and control the trust network to bully users without consequence and here I am not giving a fuck about your demands. I can see how frustrating that is for you all, being so powerless to effect my opinion as I do what’s right regardless of how I’m effected, so you’re forced to lie through tears to the community in threads like this about honest users being added to the trust network.  

So Vod, how you gonna change your little algo to get you ranked ahead of philipma1957 in recognition now? I think you’ll have to do better than working with your partner suchmoon to try and bury philipma1957’s positive feedback by attacking my trust inclusions like we’re seeing here. How pathetic. People are going to start taking notice.

[suchmoon]

So Vod, how you gonna change your little algo to get you ranked ahead of philipma1957 in recognition now? I think you’ll have to do better than working with your partner suchmoon to try and bury philipma1957’s positive feedback by attacking my trust inclusions like we’re seeing here. How pathetic. People are going to start taking notice.

This is the second time you're bringing this up, unprompted. Is that why you added those users - to push Vod down on the recognition score? And to drag an unrelated person into your spat with Vod? That's quite pathetic even for a douchenozzle like you.

[philipma1957]

I was going to stay out of here.  Years ago suchmoon touted me to a thread saying I was the worst back scratcher on the forum.

I don't remember  the thread starter and I handled it be saying yeah cool whatever .  Tell  me whom to take off the trust list and I will as I don't want the

politics.

This time after reading this thread I realized I want to put mikeywith on my trust list why is that?

Because I just did a 500 dollar favor for him. I purchased 2 cpu's at micro center for 199+299 = 498 + tax = 513 usd.

I shipped to a reshipper that shipped to him. I think I charged him 20 bucks to do it.

mikeywith is trustworthy and has done a lot on the forum .

I never got around to giving him a trust because I rarely give trusts to people I have not done business with.

He could have caused me grief by saying I burnt him and sent empty boxes.  So while he trusted me to send him the right  gear and I did do that.

I trusted him to tell that I did right or to at a minimum tell nothing at all.

By the standards here I would be called a self scratcher if I now put mikeywith on my trust list.

So I have a problem with the attack being done to OgNasty as a similar one was done to me years ago in this section.

I have never been accused of cheating anyone on this website. But I was accused of self scratching.  Maybe some one could dig it up it was before 2016.

So in protest of these attacks against self scratching I just put mikeywith on my trust list.

As he deserved it before I helped him buy gear. And he simply made me more sure when he gave me a trust.

he is now trusted by me.

I could add 20 well trusted people to my list that I did business with,but I won't.

 I find this kind of thread is a bit extorting to me as I do not want to see me on top of the self scratch list. As I was years ago.

[OgNasty]

I was going to stay out of here.  Years ago suchmoon touted me to a thread saying I was the worst back scratcher on the forum.
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So I have a problem with the attack being done to OgNasty as a similar one was done to me years ago in this section.
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I find this kind of thread is a bit extorting to me as I do not want to see me on top of the self scratch list. As I was years ago.

Thank you for sharing your story and standing up for what is right. Years ago I was attacked in similar fashion as stated as well. I also buckled to their demands. This is what they do, and if trusted members such as ourselves can be bullied like this, just imagine how many less established members have fallen victim to these attacks over the years so that these users can over-inflate their worth here. You should add everyone you see fit to the trust network and feel safe in doing so without some public attack campaign making all sorts of false allegations based on incorrect assumptions.

Others should take notice that this is what suchmoon and friends do. Most won’t speak up and philipma1957 is being more courageous than many realize by publicly outing this abusive and inappropriate harassment to attack anyone standing in the way of their complete control of the trust network. I’m sure there are many others who would also come forward, but they walked away from bitcointalk instead of fighting against these attacks.

[Little Mouse]

I would agree with LoyceV, if this is self scratching (which I think too is it but users have the right to add people on their custom trust list, unless they are adding alt account or making huge difference, I wouldn’t care much), it’s not creating a lot of differences with their trust score while there are people who have self scratched for more than 30% of their feedback.

[suchmoon]

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mikeywith is already in DT so your inclusion doesn't "scratch" you in any way. This is in no way comparable to what OgNasty is doing with his +20.

I'm sorry to hear that you see that incident years ago this way. I thought I was doing you a favor letting you know that you have an accusation against you that you may have not seen.

It's unfortunate that it has come to this comparison. OgNasty is a habitual liar. He's been doing using the trust system to settle his petty personal disputes for years. Not something I would say about you and most other top-trusted users on this forum. Even having to spell that out is just feeding OgNasty's ego. Yes, he might not steal your money. No, he can't be trusted to be truthful and have sound judgement.