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December 27, 2020, 01:35:11 PM
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Because for me that's the money fight, whatever angle you look at it. We all know that he is all in for the money, then a Pacquaio fight will set boxing records again, but he refuse, for whatever reason. And then fight for exhibition for less money?

In case the GGG vs Canelo though, Canelo doesn't want to give GGG a rematch.

And Floyd being Floyd, chooses a non boxer to fight, yes a bigger man, but as far as ring experienced, he has nothing, easy fight for Mayweather.

And for the sake for the argument that a boxer shouldn't rematch someone because they beat them convincingly, take Donaire vs Darchy, Donaire knock him out for good, but they met a year or two later for a rematch because Darchy is asking for it, same result.

As far as Mayweather is concerned, he has earned as much as he wanted to earn from boxing and that is why he is not interested in another fight against Manny Pacquiao. He is retired from professional boxing and he doesn't want to go back. A few exhibition matches would keep him entertained for the next 2-3 years and should provide him with enough pocket change.

I doubt that, Mayweather has already retired before and then he go back in boxing, so it's still possible that he will go back but there's a very small percentage since he is not getting any younger, but since Manny is still active in professional boxing, and him coming back will give him another break to fight Manny and make as much or even bigger than he made in the first fight, but I wonder what will be the sharing.

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December 27, 2020, 01:41:27 PM
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As far as Mayweather is concerned, he has earned as much as he wanted to earn from boxing and that is why he is not interested in another fight against Manny Pacquiao. He is retired from professional boxing and he doesn't want to go back. A few exhibition matches would keep him entertained for the next 2-3 years and should provide him with enough pocket change.
I think Manny is not yet retired, he is just resting and got busy because he is a politician too, but the rematch with Mayweather is possible but not probable , I mean we all know that these fight that happen many years ago is a million dollar fight because many people are interested, one with a world championship belts in different division and one who is undefeated, but the thing is I don't know if Floyd will agree to it, since as far as I know he don't do any rematch.

Actually rematch against Pacquiao and Floyd is possible depending on both boxer or depending on Floyd. But it still did not happen because Floyd does not want to. In my opinion probably it is because of pride. He wants too to feel frustration Manny on his loss against him. Money  here does not matter anymore because both fighters are already rich and to Floyd again what he wanted to defend was his pride that he was able to win one of the best fighter in the world. Anyway, a rematch or no rematch happening I can only say that still Manny is the best boxer with his excellent fighting style completely opposite to Floyd having calculated punches but boring to watch. 
Yes like what I had said, it will all depends on Floyd, since he is the undefeated man in the boxing world, so it is depend on him and to his manager, as much as people and betters wants it, if Floyd himself don't want it, it will never be.

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December 27, 2020, 03:47:29 PM
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Manny is 42 years old and Mayweather is 43 years old. I am not saying they are too old to fight, I mean are they too old to fight the best right now? Maybe, wouldn't be sure about that neither but they could be, because fighters do get worse the older they get but they do not suddenly become like a regular person like you or me, they are still the best boxers of their time and we have seen Mike Tyson who hasn't had a fight in over 15 years and how awesome he was, he would still knock me out with one punch.

However we also have to be realistic that this fight that manny and mayweather would have could become a lot worse compared to their last fight, doesn't really look all that promising to me, at this age it wouldn't be as entertaining as we imagine. There is no talks of it neither so I think it Is not going to happen, Mayweather will probably keep fighting these low level fights and beat chumps for few million, and Manny will continue to be politician.

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December 27, 2020, 06:19:49 PM
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Manny is 42 years old and Mayweather is 43 years old. I am not saying they are too old to fight, I mean are they too old to fight the best right now? Maybe, wouldn't be sure about that neither but they could be, because fighters do get worse the older they get but they do not suddenly become like a regular person like you or me, they are still the best boxers of their time and we have seen Mike Tyson who hasn't had a fight in over 15 years and how awesome he was, he would still knock me out with one punch.

However we also have to be realistic that this fight that manny and mayweather would have could become a lot worse compared to their last fight, doesn't really look all that promising to me, at this age it wouldn't be as entertaining as we imagine. There is no talks of it neither so I think it Is not going to happen, Mayweather will probably keep fighting these low level fights and beat chumps for few million, and Manny will continue to be politician.

Got your point! they are no longer in their prime and it might be much boring seeing both of them are more on defensing each other than being furios and keep throwing punches.

The chance that it may be more boring that the last fight is very possible, though we know how Manny fought and most of the time he really aiming to create a good look knocking his opponent while Floyd as we know it is really good in protecting his side and not to allow any attempts to hit him big time.

The figth may happened between this two fighter still money matters as how Floyd demands the call.

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December 27, 2020, 07:58:43 PM
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Logan has still some sufficient time to make up some training at least he can last up some rounds.
Logan Paul is an athlete and he can complete the entire fight without gassing out and more over he was a Division one wrestler and his brother Jake is also a top wrestler and an athlete and Floyd Mayweather is not known for his punching power and he wins fights due to his technical skills rather than power even during his prime and is known to have brittle hands.

That said you cannot compare them with boxing skills but this is an exhibition bout and we will see the fight going the full distance and Mayweather winning the fight by points.


Nice comparison but i wont really be seeing that Logan could last in further rounds even if hes some athlete or what then nothing beats out a boxer when it comes to stamina.

Imagine on how many years do Floyd do building up his body even if he's on the technical side of things the way he fight but still he wont able to do that if he really lacks on that

quality.Not to underestimate him but theres no way that he can last up unless if Mayweather would really be that too easy on handling out and wont really make out some

punches. Boxing rules? expect that boxers would always have the edge. When it comes to interest of this fight then it wouldnt get hyped up if both person isnt really
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December 27, 2020, 08:27:16 PM
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^^ Manny Pacquiao rematch? Nah, Floyd will not fight him again, that's why he is doing some exhibitions and easy match for millions to avoid Manny at all cost.

And besides, fighting 4 easy match will scoop him enough money that could equal Manny Pacquaio fights, so he is really that intelligent as far as his boxing career and generating money even though he is retired. And I don't think he is in for his legacy, although undefeated, he didn't give Manny a rematch so that might hurt him. But he doesn't care because he has richest sports personalities in the last 10-15 years.
The idea of a Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquaio fight excites all the fans and if you are a boxing fan you will clearly know that the first fight took place when both of them were not in their prime, they could have made the fight 8 years ago when they first fought and the camp from Manny always complain that the Mayweather camp was ducking them and whatever it is, i am not expecting a rematch as Floyd will not risk returning back to professional boxing.
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December 27, 2020, 08:30:11 PM
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I don't understand the point in fighting against the same individual again and again. Floyd beat Manny once, and that should be it. He won the match in a very lop-sided manner. The same goes for other boxers as well. I can understand the GGG vs Canelo trilogy fight, because the first match ended in a draw and the second one was stolen from GGG. So the purpose of the third match is justified. But that is not the case with Floyd vs Manny.  
You need to understand whether it was a fair battle, Manny was injured and having a tough time with his shoulders before the fight and they did not allow him to take pain killing medication as per the reports and you cannot call that a fair fight and Floyd did not dominate the fight as he was literally running around Manny was the aggressor throughout the fight and how can you call that a lop sided fight  Roll Eyes.

The problem with boxing is that they pick and choose the opponents and they always go for the safest opponent to pack their record.
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December 27, 2020, 09:00:05 PM
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This fight is not about professionalism anymore its a plain show just to raise money, Mayweather is more of a businessman than a professional boxer. He can schedule a fight to whoever celebrity he want, I will not be surprise after this fight that he’ll schedule another nonsensical match.
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Im not a fan of him and i did try to check out some information about then i find that he has 22.7M youtube subscribers https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG8rbF3g2AMX70yOd8vqIZg
which do eventually mean that he's really that popular and watching one of his video featuring Floyd? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEMix-SwBNU They are way too confident though
even they saw that their chances of winning is slim. Cheesy
Bookies will be offering this kind of line because even if its obvious on whose gonna win but still there are people who are die hard fans of Logan paul on which they can eventually
make some bucks with that rather than on not to make some line and missed out those pennies.
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December 27, 2020, 10:55:31 PM
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Connor fight wasn't a real fight neither, but at least that was a good purse, or even the fight he had last year with that Japanese guy, that was not a real fight neither but at least he got paid better, Logan is just nobody and Mayweather should have seen that this wasn't really profitable enough. Not that 5 million + ppv is nothing, but he could have made more with someone else famous.
At least Connor is a fairly good MMA fighter, although of course he had no chance against Mayweather in a fight under the rules of boxing. However, I also think that Mayweather would not have a chance in a fight under the rules of MMA, respectively. I'm also surprised that Mayweather couldn't find an opponent with a higher status, given the talent with which Floyd is able to profit from his boxing talent, but I think that simply in the absence of other options, Mayweather just decided to remind himself so that the public does not forget.
I am pretty sure that he could have found someone better to fight against but why bother? It is an exhibition and he thinks his name alone is going to be enough to produce big profits so instead of sharing all the pie with someone else he will pay a small amount of money to someone that is glad to have the exposure and he keeps the rest, in a way this shows that Floyd is a great businessman since he will earn a lot from this but in terms of a challenging fight his opponent offers nothing to him and he knows it.

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December 27, 2020, 11:07:39 PM
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I don't understand the point in fighting against the same individual again and again. Floyd beat Manny once, and that should be it. He won the match in a very lop-sided manner. The same goes for other boxers as well. I can understand the GGG vs Canelo trilogy fight, because the first match ended in a draw and the second one was stolen from GGG. So the purpose of the third match is justified. But that is not the case with Floyd vs Manny.  
You need to understand whether it was a fair battle, Manny was injured and having a tough time with his shoulders before the fight and they did not allow him to take pain killing medication as per the reports and you cannot call that a fair fight and Floyd did not dominate the fight as he was literally running around Manny was the aggressor throughout the fight and how can you call that a lop sided fight  Roll Eyes.
The problem with boxing is that they pick and choose the opponents and they always go for the safest opponent to pack their record.
It is not normal when such great rivals meet each other only once, because there can really be a lot of reasons when one fighter loses to another in a particular fight on a particular day and at a particular hour. Any boxer, especially a good one, should have a chance to fight again to try to get revenge for his defeat, although of course the system of professional Boxing with one opponent per year and its own selection of an opponent can prevent this.
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December 27, 2020, 11:28:41 PM
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I don't understand the point in fighting against the same individual again and again. Floyd beat Manny once, and that should be it. He won the match in a very lop-sided manner. The same goes for other boxers as well. I can understand the GGG vs Canelo trilogy fight, because the first match ended in a draw and the second one was stolen from GGG. So the purpose of the third match is justified. But that is not the case with Floyd vs Manny.  
You need to understand whether it was a fair battle, Manny was injured and having a tough time with his shoulders before the fight and they did not allow him to take pain killing medication as per the reports and you cannot call that a fair fight and Floyd did not dominate the fight as he was literally running around Manny was the aggressor throughout the fight and how can you call that a lop sided fight  Roll Eyes.
The problem with boxing is that they pick and choose the opponents and they always go for the safest opponent to pack their record.
It is not normal when such great rivals meet each other only once, because there can really be a lot of reasons when one fighter loses to another in a particular fight on a particular day and at a particular hour. Any boxer, especially a good one, should have a chance to fight again to try to get revenge for his defeat, although of course the system of professional Boxing with one opponent per year and its own selection of an opponent can prevent this.
It's not what the boxers are thinking, they are just warriors, they will fight to prove they are the best and of course a fight that will bring them money. A Manny vs Money  fight will generate millions of dollars to both of them, why would Floyd not give this a go when in fact he is still active in boxing doing this exhibition fight. I don't want to question who is better because we know Mayweather beat him, but as a fan, I think it's nice if he will give the fans what they want to see, and they are willing to pay.

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December 28, 2020, 03:54:21 AM
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It is not normal when such great rivals meet each other only once, because there can really be a lot of reasons when one fighter loses to another in a particular fight on a particular day and at a particular hour. Any boxer, especially a good one, should have a chance to fight again to try to get revenge for his defeat, although of course the system of professional Boxing with one opponent per year and its own selection of an opponent can prevent this.

The problem is that the winning fighter will always avoid a rematch with the losing one. We have seen this with Floyd (after he won his fight against Pacquiao) and with Canelo Alvarez (after his controversial win during the second match against GGG). The match can only happen if both the boxers agree to it. In case any of them don't want a rematch, then we can't force them.

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December 28, 2020, 05:48:02 AM
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It is not normal when such great rivals meet each other only once, because there can really be a lot of reasons when one fighter loses to another in a particular fight on a particular day and at a particular hour. Any boxer, especially a good one, should have a chance to fight again to try to get revenge for his defeat, although of course the system of professional Boxing with one opponent per year and its own selection of an opponent can prevent this.

The problem is that the winning fighter will always avoid a rematch with the losing one. We have seen this with Floyd (after he won his fight against Pacquiao) and with Canelo Alvarez (after his controversial win during the second match against GGG). The match can only happen if both the boxers agree to it. In case any of them don't want a rematch, then we can't force them.

That's right! It's hard to force them if the camp  doesn't  like to do  the rematch,  both parties needs to agree in any conditions  that being ask especially  by the  winning  party.

Most of the time money  matters  or the fighter 's privilege to choose whoever  he wants to  fight. This is a part of being a winner  they can pick and go ahead or decline  if they   not comfortable.

Sad truth, losers  can't  push things out what they can do  is to wait  until  the winning  camp  decide  to accept the rematch.

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December 28, 2020, 05:48:49 AM
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As the Fight is coming near ,Obviously Majority are eying Floyd to beat Logan as sooner as they come up the ring.

Any Offer of Betting in which Round Logan will end? or at least the first Punch down will happen? looks like i'm willing to deal In individual and not in gambling site , for more added flavor in this game.









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December 28, 2020, 08:55:58 AM
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As the Fight is coming near ,Obviously Majority are eying Floyd to beat Logan as sooner as they come up the ring.

Any Offer of Betting in which Round Logan will end? or at least the first Punch down will happen? looks like i'm willing to deal In individual and not in gambling site , for more added flavor in this game.
Knowing how Floyd works his way in the ropes, I do think that it will be decided unanimously. Maybe a couple of Knockdowns will happen but I do not think that it will come to the point that it will be a knockout. Your offer seems lucrative but unfortunately, I already spent my funds into something and when the time comes to bet, I had arrange a bet with someone I knew personally.

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December 28, 2020, 09:45:23 AM
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As the Fight is coming near ,Obviously Majority are eying Floyd to beat Logan as sooner as they come up the ring.

Any Offer of Betting in which Round Logan will end? or at least the first Punch down will happen? looks like i'm willing to deal In individual and not in gambling site , for more added flavor in this game.
Knowing how Floyd works his way in the ropes, I do think that it will be decided unanimously. Maybe a couple of Knockdowns will happen but I do not think that it will come to the point that it will be a knockout. Your offer seems lucrative but unfortunately, I already spent my funds into something and when the time comes to bet, I had arrange a bet with someone I knew personally.

Like that, betting in the forum is good as long as you have an escrow. Actually @peter0425, you can organize a betting on this particular event, it will be in February next year so we still have plenty of time to prepare or save money to bet here. lol

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December 28, 2020, 09:54:06 AM
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^^ Manny Pacquiao rematch? Nah, Floyd will not fight him again, that's why he is doing some exhibitions and easy match for millions to avoid Manny at all cost.

And besides, fighting 4 easy match will scoop him enough money that could equal Manny Pacquaio fights, so he is really that intelligent as far as his boxing career and generating money even though he is retired. And I don't think he is in for his legacy, although undefeated, he didn't give Manny a rematch so that might hurt him. But he doesn't care because he has richest sports personalities in the last 10-15 years.
He is the man. I hate him when I've first watched him against Manny. He is a strategist and he understands the risk and possibilities if he is going for a fight.

He has already made his name, these exhibitions for him are like part time jobs. He had nothing to lose even if lose it but it is unlikely that he will lose from someonw who dont have a professional record.
Mostly importantly he's just finding ways to give back to charity in my honest opinion becasue the last exhibition fight he had came rumors that he funded some charities though yet to be verified. Well, for him having these exhibition fight doesn't mean that he won't come for another rematch for Pacquiao, maybe after some entertainment fight he will call for a rematch with Pacquiao which we're waiting for to happen come 2021.

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December 28, 2020, 10:42:41 AM
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He is the man. I hate him when I've first watched him against Manny. He is a strategist and he understands the risk and possibilities if he is going for a fight.

He has already made his name, these exhibitions for him are like part time jobs. He had nothing to lose even if lose it but it is unlikely that he will lose from someonw who dont have a professional record.

And as always, we are his source of income as we have to pay in order to watch the fight, for me, I would not watch the fight, I'll only do if it's for free as I know this is just a boring fight. Mayweather already had  made fortune in boxing but he is still around, though he has retired, he is still involve in boxing outside his professional life.
Somehow it's interesting to watch because we're all curious how this fight will beat each of them.

But there's also that thinking that it is not worth to watch because you'll just make these two do this again. An exhibition match that will rake them millions by having fun and at the same time will earn them bucks.



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December 28, 2020, 10:57:24 AM
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Sad truth, losers  can't  push things out what they can do  is to wait  until  the winning  camp  decide  to accept the rematch.

That's right. And this is the reason why I personally think that debating about the rematch between Pacquiao and Floyd is a waste of time. Ever since Pacquiao lost the fight in 2015, his fans have been talking about a rematch. Perhaps they can't accept the fact that their hero got beaten by a clear margin. Floyd's team has made it clear that there would be no rematch and let's better get on with it.
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December 28, 2020, 11:43:59 AM
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Sad truth, losers  can't  push things out what they can do  is to wait  until  the winning  camp  decide  to accept the rematch.

That's right. And this is the reason why I personally think that debating about the rematch between Pacquiao and Floyd is a waste of time. Ever since Pacquiao lost the fight in 2015, his fans have been talking about a rematch. Perhaps they can't accept the fact that their hero got beaten by a clear margin. Floyd's team has made it clear that there would be no rematch and let's better get on with it.

Yes, that's definitely the reason, I am a Pacquiao fan and I don't the like their fight to be honest, yeah, Floyd won the fight but he wasn't engaging a lot, I know that its his style but maybe in the rematch Pacquiao could beat him, just hoping though.

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