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December 08, 2020, 09:28:57 AM
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A DECENTRALIZED P2P MUSIC CREATION AND DISTRIBUTION PLATFORM (DPMCDP)

As a musician with a 35+ years experience in many aspects of the music business, I think it is time to create a decentralized open source music platform for everyone involved including composers, musicians, producers, fans, media and the entire music business.


I would like to discuss with you guys, how a DPMCDP could look like and how this platform could be created.



I will sum up my ideas on this topic, but this project is meant to be completely open source and decentralized, so that everybody can do their part to make this thing happen.

So what should this platform be able to do:


1. MUSIC CREATION MODULE

This part is for composers, musicians, bands, producers, recording studios etc.

- Meeting point for music creators
- Virtual and decentralized rehearsal rooms/recording studios to produce music
- Authority rights registering system using Bitcoin/Lightning
- Possibility to distribute your own music on the platform and/or contact people from the music business

Needs: Sequencer with chat function. There are free apps out there that could be merged. Registering a composition for authority right could be based on Bitcoin or some other blockchain based crypto currency. Webspace could be created inspired by existing solutions like OpenBazaar¹, IPFS², Maidsafecoin etc.

Example:

I am a rock guitarist, who is looking for other musicians to start a new project. Now I can use the platform to connect to the p2p network and search for other musicians using filters and get in contact using PM or chat. I can also create a virtual 'rehearsal room', where people can enter using a password. This 'rehearsal room' is used for private conversation and music producing  with a simple Multi Track Sequencer and Audio Editor for mastering which is included. To use effects or improve the sound quality I can use free addons or I buy addons directly from a programmer.
Lets say I found the right people and we created our first song. We can now use the same software to release and sell the song on our decentralised 'Bandpage' to the Fans and we can also contact people from the music industry to help me with the distribution. (The songs are digitally signed and connected to the compositors with a time stamp using cryptography. FUCK ASCAP!



2. MUSIC DISTRIBUTION MODULE


This is the part for everyone else in the music business.

- Interface between music creators and music distributors
- Blockchain based payment system


Example:

I am a seller of band merchandise and I am looking for artists, that want to use my service. Since I already have a big customer base and good distribution channels, I can also help bands to sell their merchandise. I can use this platform to find and contact artists and I can create a shop, which is beeing saved in the decentralized network. I pay a very small fee to the network for that, so its worth it.




3. CONSUMERS MODULE

Here is the part for the Fans

- Music Player
- Interface between musicians/bands and fans

Needs: ,Music player, Chat, payment system, browser

 
Example:

Satoshi likes music and he uses the platform to find new music and support the artists he likes. He can use a low quality or short song preview and if he likes a song, he can buy it directly from the bandpage using crypto currency.
The money goes directly to the band. On the bandpage he can check if the band plays a show in his town and he can buy tickets and their merchandise. He can also contact the band through their webpage by chat and PM.


OK. I hope I can gain interest from musicians, music lovers and coders out there.

Let's discuss


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December 08, 2020, 03:56:20 PM
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I understand that a person with huge experience in the music business who is also a bitcoin fan would want that, but to be honest, I don't get why we should make everything decentralized. I believe that musicians around the world don't feel that this thing is missing right now. A third-party for moving our money online before bitcoin was a problem, because in reality, the banks had control over our money. Once bitcoin was created that problem was solved. Unfortunately, people tend to overflow an idea due to their overenthusiasm. For example what main difference would have a centralized p2p music creation with a decentralized one?

I've seen this kind of ideas in the past like a p2p exchange or blockchain in healthcare. We should start unseeing the third-party as something bad. Sometimes, the existence of a third-party is really important.

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December 08, 2020, 05:50:29 PM
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You wrote a lot so I feel kinda bad for making my reply this short, but the first question that pops in my mind (and perhaps others') is - how are you going to RIAA-proof this thing?

You saw what they tried to do with youtube-dl, these guys will go after anything that they think remotely infringes their intellectual property.

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December 08, 2020, 07:29:34 PM
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I understand that a person with huge experience in the music business who is also a bitcoin fan would want that, but to be honest, I don't get why we should make everything decentralized. I believe that musicians around the world don't feel that this thing is missing right now. A third-party for moving our money online before bitcoin was a problem, because in reality, the banks had control over our money. Once bitcoin was created that problem was solved. Unfortunately, people tend to overflow an idea due to their overenthusiasm. For example what main difference would have a centralized p2p music creation with a decentralized one?

I've seen this kind of ideas in the past like a p2p exchange or blockchain in healthcare. We should start unseeing the third-party as something bad. Sometimes, the existence of a third-party is really important.

Musicians worldwide have a problem with many aspects of the current situation. Just a few of them:

1. Authority rights registrations are centralized now. Companies like ASCAP are unnecessary middlemen, which could be replaced with a blockchain based registration system. This would change payments from now months(!) to almost instant and secure.
2. A few big companies control a big part of the cake, which could be changed using a decentralized solution. Fans could buy music directly at the source.
3. Meeting with other musicians worldwide to create new projects/songs is another advantage of an all in one platform.
4. Middlemen at live show ticket sales are another problem, which would be solved using a free open source decentralized solution.

I guess thats enough for now. Decentralization is certainly not the solution for all the problems, but it would be worth trying to reform the music biz in a way, that people pay lower prices to consume music and still the musician gets a fair share. Now the big part of the money goes to companies, which are practically doing nothing.

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December 08, 2020, 07:46:51 PM
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You wrote a lot so I feel kinda bad for making my reply this short, but the first question that pops in my mind (and perhaps others') is - how are you going to RIAA-proof this thing?

You saw what they tried to do with youtube-dl, these guys will go after anything that they think remotely infringes their intellectual property.

This platform would be RIAA independent, because all compositions would be registered at the blockchain instead.

The thing with RIAA vs youtube is, that youtubers are using RIAA registered music, but they didn't pay the musician through the RIAA. The RIAA couldn't go after compositions, that are not registered with them.

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December 09, 2020, 09:42:31 AM
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@AGD
I've seen a few people [in this forum] that tried achieving something in a similar field to this project [not exactly the same, yours is way better] and failed but, I genuinely feel good about your project idea [I see its potential and I really like it].

  • In addition to the above things, the fact that it's going to integrate cryptocurrency payments will surely come in handy for those that are frozen out due to their location and the available traditional methods of payment in other platforms.

- Virtual and decentralized rehearsal rooms/recording studios to produce music
I'm quite interested in this part [it's going to be fun].

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December 09, 2020, 10:53:10 AM
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@AGD
I've seen a few people [in this forum] that tried achieving something in a similar field to this project [not exactly the same, yours is way better] and failed but, I genuinely feel good about your project idea [I see its potential and I really like it].

  • In addition to the above things, the fact that it's going to integrate cryptocurrency payments will surely come in handy for those that are frozen out due to their location and the available traditional methods of payment in other platforms.

- Virtual and decentralized rehearsal rooms/recording studios to produce music
I'm quite interested in this part [it's going to be fun].

Yeah! It would be quite fun to connect to other musicians world wide on a free decentralized platform. Just plug in and play!
If your project sounds good and you want to release it to the public, you can register songs directly to the blockchain with a timestamp and press the release button to put the song on your website either for free, or you can charge a fee from 1 Satoshi to any price you like. With Lightning this would be made easy peasy.

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December 09, 2020, 11:01:07 AM
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I'm not a programmer/coder or musician, but like most people I like to listen good music, and I like the presented idea because it seems to me that many musicians would benefit from it, especially those who may be less famous and find it difficult to present their music outside its local framework.

What interests me is would such a service be something that could interest a significant number of people? @AGD maybe as a musician you could (if you haven’t already) do some research among your colleagues to get an insight into what they think about it?

Personally am a big fan of what is called world music, and I think there is a lot of great music that despite the digital age is still quite unknown - and it comes from mostly poor countries where conditions for musicians are very poor.

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I'm not a programmer/coder or musician, but like most people I like to listen good music, and I like the presented idea because it seems to me that many musicians would benefit from it, especially those who may be less famous and find it difficult to present their music outside its local framework.

What interests me is would such a service be something that could interest a significant number of people? @AGD maybe as a musician you could (if you haven’t already) do some research among your colleagues to get an insight into what they think about it?

Personally am a big fan of what is called world music, and I think there is a lot of great music that despite the digital age is still quite unknown - and it comes from mostly poor countries where conditions for musicians are very poor.

Especially nowadays in the pandemic and lockdown times, I bet there are a lot of musicians out there that would like to connect to others.

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Might be of interest, lots of Room to build on top of it.
https://utopiagenesis.com/
https://utopiagenesis.medium.com/welcome-to-utopia-where-the-love-of-music-meets-the-power-of-blockchain-64422ee0702a

I liked the part that that they are actively making sure Radio Stations are observed, then again Radio Station play Garbage Music most of the time, due to deals with Garbage Companies and Garbage Producers in pure circle jerk method.
The Music Industry is rotten and its current form needs to go away. So big yes to decentralized solutions!


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Might be of interest, lots of Room to build on top of it.
https://utopiagenesis.com/
https://utopiagenesis.medium.com/welcome-to-utopia-where-the-love-of-music-meets-the-power-of-blockchain-64422ee0702a

I liked the part that that they are actively making sure Radio Stations are observed, then again Radio Station play Garbage Music most of the time, due to deals with Garbage Companies and Garbage Producers in pure circle jerk method.
The Music Industry is rotten and its current form needs to go away. So big yes to decentralized solutions!




Thanks for the link. Interesting. They seem to be concentrating on the composition rights. My idea is more kind of a allinone solution, where registering compositions on the blockchain is just a small, but important part of it.

I agree with the rotten and corrupt music biz.

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They seem to be concentrating on the composition rights.

Got to start somewhere and that one part is probably important and might gain traction.
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They seem to be concentrating on the composition rights.

Got to start somewhere and that one part is probably important and might gain traction.

I agree that it definitely is important to have a secure possibility to register compositions.

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