Primedice = Prison for your money

[Sanitough]

Have you posted in their ANN thread?

I guess that's the best thing to do first, let them reply on your concerns, and if you don't like it, then you can bring it here for discussion, asking for some suggestion or opinion, then next is the scam accusation if you find your concern having a solid evidence to back.

If we will only look at PD reputation, people would say they will not scam.

[shoreno]

I didn't know they were a licensed casino and required KYC in some cases. What is the purpose of even having a shitty Curacao license? Maybe it's for tax purposes but for the players it is meaningless and is worth nothing. It just adds an extra layer of friction that doesn't need to exist. It also gives them a reason to scam you whenever they feel like it by targeting users with mandated verification.

yeah they are and licensed casinos are the one that requires kyc the most . for some players seeing a site that have license gives them confidence and if many players are confident about your site they will play more but there are also players that dont like kyc so they avoid licensed casinos .

 ive been a player of primedice for a long time and i dont have a problems with them , they dont scam people so accuse like this are sometimes inacurate and only try to damage the sites reputation .

[Yogee]

I do that sometimes on my account. I just deposit and do withdrawal right after my after got confirmed. Sometimes I loss my desire to gamble due to the duration of transaction confirmation. But I don't encounter this kind of problem. They can actually check the transaction history of the account if the user is just mixing there coins.

They should just set a wagering requirements to there withdrawal if they don't want this kind of thing just like FJ do.

Did you deposit-wthdraw in Primedice?
Did you use the same address for deposit and withdrawal request?

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Primedice could have added allowed withdrawal to the same address the player use to deposit and probably deduct some service charge for the inconvenience instead of just meeting the wagering requirement or KYC. That's a fair procedure and they won't be violating the AML policies as far as I can tell.

[Mauser]

I'm so confused, after they received my ID, what they do for that ID? they calling state institute to confirm that I am a legal citizen? or what?

Deposit into Primedice just like put your money into prison.

Now they have my money even my personal ID

Verifying the identity of people using their casino comes more and more common these days. I experienced same demands with another casino. At first didn't feel right for me too, but in the end they get these information from so many other people that it shouldn't really matter one more, I hope at least. One thing I started doing now is that I keep writing the name and website I send my ID to on a piece of paper next to my ID, so it's harder for them to do misuse with them.

[iamsheikhadil]

Primedice really has built a good-will in the gambling section so I think if you want to accuse them you have to bring "solid" proofs. Did you by the way in any way try to do something that wasn't normal? Like double transactions etc? I don't think primedice would just stop your withdrawal without any valid reason, I have been a player there for years and almost most of my withdrawals are processed within seconds or minutes. But still, giving you the benefit of doubt, if you think you have been cheated, put against them a scam accusation with all proofs!

[bitbollo]

You can be confident that Primedice doesn't want to scam you, but they want to be in compliance with several rules/laws that regulate sportsbook and gambling website in general.
Verifying user identity has become one of the "main condition" before using any crypto/gambling service !
@OP better idea to receive a fast help, could be to post in primedice topic on forum or try to reach them in telegram.
 

[Ucy]

Interesting. If this is true(esp about the option to wager the trapped fund) then it's possible you deposited amount of money (probably big amount) that requires kyc before withdrawal.  This is why it's important to get an idea what  sites policy are before depositing big amounts of money on sites. You took big risk by not reading and understanding atleast the important part of their Terms of Service.
So, I'd advice you complete the ID verification or try seeing if the site can be merciful in some ways that's right/moral

[Kelvinid]

All I wish is that Primedice will put an end to this and say something about the said issue. I don't think also that it takes a long time to know if your account is suspicious (probably not) and have your money back.

This is not about blaming each other nor yelling for a mistake (or not), people are here just to help you, and that they say are some reason why your account is held. They need some investigation and so please bear with them, Primedice won't ruin their reputation unless if you are visiting the wrong one.

[Mahdirakib]

I wont make it be scam accusation for website Primedice, since I'm believe Primedice wont scam for such amount my money.

Do you think this is a serious issue to discuss in scam accusations? Seems like you are trying to force them to process your withdrawal quickly by creating this topic here.

I do deposit at Primedice, but I halted my intention to play gambling there, so I made a withdrawal. Then my withdrawal is "Peding" then I get a message from costumers services to solved my withdrawal. They are lock my account cause based on the suspected action, but they claim I must met wagered or I do my KYC(follows I'm already deal for T&C). ~

So your mind changed after making a deposit! I believe most other gambling site will hold your withdraw if you make a deposit and immediately request for withdrawal without placing any bets.

I'm so confused, after they received my ID, what they do for that ID? they calling state institute to confirm that I am a legal citizen? or what?

Deposit into Primedice just like put your money into prison.

Now they have my money even my personal ID

Don't act like silly here. No gambling site will be a prison unless you do anything suspicious like criminal. It was your fault, gambling site isn't like a wallet that you will deposit money and take it out without wagering. But you did it, so they have marked your activity as suspicious and asked for KYC. You already heard about money laundering and other illegal facts.


Why you are worrying too much if you think there was nothing wrong from your side? PD will proceed your withdrawal if everything is fine there. I believe you have read their terms of service carefully.

Primedice reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in Primedice’s sole discretion. Primedice also reserves the right to disclose a User’s information as appropriate to comply with legal process or as otherwise permitted by the privacy policy of Slice Media N.V. (owner and operator of Primedice), and by using the Service, you acknowledge and consent to the possibility of such disclosure.

[ethereumhunter]

I am sorry to read your story. Can you tell us how much money you already withdraw because I am not sure that Primedice will do that to their members? As an old gambling site here with reputations, they will hold their member's money except they are suspicious about something with the account. I think let them check your account and explain what is wrong with your pending withdrawal. I hope you can solve the problem, and you can get your money.

[zidanw]

Do you have any evidences that you could prove it maybe some conversation screenshot (but hide your personal details) well it's easy to make stories like this and without evidences or proofs I don't think I'm convinced with this story. Primedice is one of the trusted casinos here in the forum and I don't think they will do that.

[avikz]

I wont make it be scam accusation for website Primedice, since I'm believe Primedice wont scam for such amount my money.

I do deposit at Primedice, but I halted my intention to play gambling there, so I made a withdrawal. Then my withdrawal is "Peding" then I get a message from costumers services to solved my withdrawal. They are lock my account cause based on the suspected action, but they claim I must met wagered or I do my KYC(follows I'm already deal for T&C). I'm asking about how much wagered required? Then didnt answer(It's interesting things cause I do own my money even not claim ever bonuses or programs).

So I'm decided to sent my ID(It's s*cks things to share personal but they asking for that? but I'm already deal with T&C so they are won).

After many tickets or support after I'm sending my ID, they said need processed... but until 8 hours they not yet processed, they said processed shortly after their team checking my ID.

I'm so confused, after they received my ID, what they do for that ID? they calling state institute to confirm that I am a legal citizen? or what?

Deposit into Primedice just like put your money into prison.

Now they have my money even my personal ID

Your experience is unfortunate but there are many casinos that have wagering requirements to be fulfilled before you can withdraw. So Primedice is not the only one casinos with such requirements. However, they have given you two options and you have chosen one out of them, they must honor their words now!

You may want to get in touch with the below member as he claims to be an advisor of Primedice,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81292

This will probably help you to fast track the resolution!

[robelneo]

ive been a player of primedice for a long time and i dont have a problems with them , they dont scam people so accuse like this are sometimes inacurate and only try to damage the sites reputation .

I don't think OP's intention is to create a scam accusation he clearly states that in the first sentence of his thread

I wont make it be scam accusation for website Primedice, since I'm believe Primedice wont scam for such amount my money.

he just posts his opinion about the situation that he is in and he wants a discussion on it, Primedice reputation is still intact if he has the intention to accuse Primedice of scam he should have created a thread in the scam, and besides this kind of post about Primedice does not constitute accusation.

[Kakmakr]

I think your situation is normal with any licensed casino with KYC requirements, because actions like yours will raise red flags with any casino. A typical money laundering tactic would be for people to create a new account and then depositing "dirty" coins and then waiting for a while and then "withdrawing" laundered coins.

You might not have done this on purpose, but the casino support would react the same to your situation... as they would do with any other event that was similar to yours. They will also look deeper into your verification documents, because it is linked to suspected criminal behavior.

Money laundering operations does not want to spend money to get "clean" money... so they use tactics like this. 

[Reatim]

You can be confident that Primedice doesn't want to scam you, but they want to be in compliance with several rules/laws that regulate sportsbook and gambling website in general.
Verifying user identity has become one of the "main condition" before using any crypto/gambling service !
@OP better idea to receive a fast help, could be to post in primedice topic on forum or try to reach them in telegram.
 

But we also knew that this not apply to anyone that's why OP is reacting like this and he might be doing this for many times so he was very shock that he needs to send ID and Now Having thread here to ask for Support though he did not mention that literally .

Prime Dice and Stakes.com has been around for long time and one of the Gambling site that receives very minimal Issue considering that gambling Sites are the favorite target of those extortionist and Troll here.

They Handled each case completely fair and drop a solution on it,Just comply to what they asked and Stop this kind of reaction first,if the result did not make you satisfy then Lets make this thread active.

[iv4n]

You can be confident that Primedice doesn't want to scam you, but they want to be in compliance with several rules/laws that regulate sportsbook and gambling website in general.
Verifying user identity has become one of the "main condition" before using any crypto/gambling service !
@OP better idea to receive a fast help, could be to post in primedice topic on forum or try to reach them in telegram.
 

But we also knew that this not apply to anyone that's why OP is reacting like this and he might be doing this for many times so he was very shock that he needs to send ID and Now Having thread here to ask for Support though he did not mention that literally .

Prime Dice and Stakes.com has been around for long time and one of the Gambling site that receives very minimal Issue considering that gambling Sites are the favorite target of those extortionist and Troll here.

They Handled each case completely fair and drop a solution on it,Just comply to what they asked and Stop this kind of reaction first,if the result did not make you satisfy then Lets make this thread active.

I didn't open Primedice for years, so I don't know much about rules and regulations on that site! What draw my attention is the rollover requirement for withdrawing the deposit! I didn't know about that until a few months ago, on gambit casino! In chat there some people were very confused about that rule, you need x2 rollover and only after that you can withdraw your deposit! I didn't have that problem, when I gamble I usually wager a lot more than x2, but some people make few nice hits before they wager x2, and they can't withdraw thier money and profit!
Now I know that many other sites have that policy! Sadly many people are not aware of that, so they make a deposit and get stuck!

It's risky, but OP can place all in bet at x 0.01! And I think that will be enough for a wager requirement.

[MCobian]

I believe Primedice will not do a scam, because I was also a Primedice user about two years ago and have never experienced
problems when making withdrawals. I also agree with the members on this forum that what happens to you, because you are
suspected of doing money laundering. Primedice will definitely make it difficult to withdraw your funds, if after you make a deposit
you don't play gambling at all on their website. My advice is to try playing dice gambling for a few days there, who knows the wagering
required is reached. So you are not annoyed waiting for the ID verification process, because the ID verification process can take
several days.

[Fredomago]

I didn't open Primedice for years, so I don't know much about rules and regulations on that site! What draw my attention is the rollover requirement for withdrawing the deposit! I didn't know about that until a few months ago, on gambit casino! In chat there some people were very confused about that rule,

In past and actually until now that few gambling site has this regulation but the thing is gambling site now are aware that their site is being used as Mixing station of those who Hide their transactions of trading crypto,when They only need is to deposit the amount in certain gambling and then withdraw right away so no one can find the transaction in much cheaper way than using a Mixing company that we knew how much fee requires.

you need x2 rollover and only after that you can withdraw your deposit! I didn't have that problem, when I gamble I usually wager a lot more than x2, but some people make few nice hits before they wager x2, and they can't withdraw thier money and profit!
Now I know that many other sites have that policy! Sadly many people are not aware of that, so they make a deposit and get stuck!

It's risky, but OP can place all in bet at x 0.01! And I think that will be enough for a wager requirement.

I believe that Roll over that some gambling site use to obliged the depositor to Play or else they can't withdraw their money and besides why need to deposit when you have no plan playing and the reason of Changing mind?i don't think that is valuable because you can leave that amount and back next time to play and now that depositing then withdrawing that sounds questionable.

[kryptqnick]

But the question's, what's the my ID for? analysis / review my ID? How? They had control databases ID all planets?

Op, it's good that you're reasonable about not making a scam accusation. Asking for KYC prior to withdrawal sounds like something that can happen, especially in your case. You see, depositing money into a casino, not wagering it at all and then just withdrawing looks awfully like money laundering, so Primedice is being rational when they ask for KYC. And you shouldn't worry about the ID, I don't think they're going to actually bother some institutions over it. They probably just want to check if you're not from a restricted jurisdiction and whether you're not already a wanted criminal laundering money through their website.

[judeafante]

They probably just want to check if you're not from a restricted jurisdiction and whether you're not already a wanted criminal laundering money through their website.

If that is the case, OP should have a valid reason why he deposit and made a withdrawal without doing anything, OP should know that every withdrawal and deposit are being tracked for validity and it's a big warning sign if do that, no reputable gambling site will let you do that, because they do not want to become a tool for money laundering, they will be included in trouble in case.