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December 10, 2020, 12:54:49 AM
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Some breaking news out of today that I assume everyone has already seen: Hunter Biden, President-Elect Joe Bidens son, is under federal tax investigation relating to his international consulting / business dealings.

We're not really sure exactly how long this investigation has been ongoing, I've heard some reports that it's been open since 2018 but this is the first time the DOJ has said something to the Bidens'.

I'm not a legal expert, though I'm pretty sure that this case was probably open prior to the election. There was no leaks for this particular investigation, and I think if there was it would've been another attack avenue for the whole Hunter Biden corruption thing that the Trump campaign was trying to do.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/09/hunter-biden-under-federal-investigation-over-taxes.html




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December 10, 2020, 01:24:25 AM
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Some breaking news out of today that I assume everyone has already seen: Hunter Biden, President-Elect Joe Bidens son, is under federal tax investigation relating to his international consulting / business dealings.

We're not really sure exactly how long this investigation has been ongoing, I've heard some reports that it's been open since 2018 but this is the first time the DOJ has said something to the Bidens'.

I'm not a legal expert, though I'm pretty sure that this case was probably open prior to the election. There was no leaks for this particular investigation, and I think if there was it would've been another attack avenue for the whole Hunter Biden corruption thing that the Trump campaign was trying to do.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/09/hunter-biden-under-federal-investigation-over-taxes.html

"Prior to the election" Yes, I've read that it was ongoing and certainly before 11-3.

Maybe it was six or twelve months earlier. But it was related to the cases where associates of his were convicted and he was not.
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So he's qualified to run for president in 2024 and doesn't have to disclose his taxes because audit? I think that's how IRS investigations work Grin
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So he's qualified to run for president in 2024 and doesn't have to disclose his taxes because audit? I think that's how IRS investigations work Grin


No, that's certainly not how "IRS investigations work", when you are (although certainly not admitting it) talking about the weaponized, targeting of conservatives during the Obama regime, which is the time of the audit in question.

So are you pro weaponizing the IRS to target people of certain political inclinations?

Never mind, don't bother trying to dodge the issue.

It'll start up soon enough again if Biden gets in.

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December 10, 2020, 03:32:31 AM
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Some breaking news out of today that I assume everyone has already seen: Hunter Biden, President-Elect Joe Bidens son, is under federal tax investigation relating to his international consulting / business dealings.

We're not really sure exactly how long this investigation has been ongoing, I've heard some reports that it's been open since 2018 but this is the first time the DOJ has said something to the Bidens'.

I'm not a legal expert, though I'm pretty sure that this case was probably open prior to the election. There was no leaks for this particular investigation, and I think if there was it would've been another attack avenue for the whole Hunter Biden corruption thing that the Trump campaign was trying to do.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/09/hunter-biden-under-federal-investigation-over-taxes.html

"Prior to the election" Yes, I've read that it was ongoing and certainly before 11-3.

Maybe it was six or twelve months earlier. But it was related to the cases where associates of his were convicted and he was not.

I've seen some of this as well, though I haven't been able to get any reputable sources to back this. Pretty sure ZeroHedge said something like this on their twitter, so I guess that works.

Gotcha though, even without reputable sources backing this the investigation had to be started prior to the investigation.

So he's qualified to run for president in 2024 and doesn't have to disclose his taxes because audit? I think that's how IRS investigations work Grin


No, that's certainly not how "IRS investigations work", when you are (although certainly not admitting it) talking about the weaponized, targeting of conservatives during the Obama regime, which is the time of the audit in question.

So are you pro weaponizing the IRS to target people of certain political inclinations?

Never mind, don't bother trying to dodge the issue.

It'll start up soon enough again if Biden gets in.



Not sure if you're noticing that he is making a joke about President Trump here -- about the fact that he kept pointing to an audit that was ongoing for years as the reason for not showing people his tax returns. That's that.

The joke is about how precedent would allow for Hunter Biden to run for Pres now and no one should have issues with his taxes.




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No, that's certainly not how "IRS investigations work", when you are (although certainly not admitting it) talking about the weaponized, targeting of conservatives during the Obama regime, which is the time of the audit in question.

So are you pro weaponizing the IRS to target people of certain political inclinations?

Never mind, don't bother trying to dodge the issue.

It'll start up soon enough again if Biden gets in.

Not sure if you're noticing that he is making a joke about President Trump here -- about the fact that he kept pointing to an audit that was ongoing for years as the reason for not showing people his tax returns. That's that.

The joke is about how precedent would allow for Hunter Biden to run for Pres now and no one should have issues with his taxes.

quote for posterity, .. agreed he didnt get the satire.


anyway. the thing i dislike about the american nominees/elects is how they feel like the 'privileged class' that they can be ancestored into leadership without much vetting
and its not one sided.
republicans had the bush's ancestored in with pretty much all the bush males
the democrats had the clintons ancestored to election process in due to marriage.

so im not surprised if hunter thinks he has a chance due to daddy
id also not be surprised if ivanka trump or kushner tried in 2024 due to donald.

so it seems that while the vetting process ignores money handling performance. leadership skills. and patriotism to be willing to pay tax. the vetting process just looks at the privileged lineage of a family as their minimum requirement.

and by vetting process for nominees. i mean the american popularity fangirl contest that votes based on who they know. not what they know

i feel all potential nominees need to submit their tax returns before even starting the primaries/caucuses
to atleast give people and IRS many months to find out how dodgy someone is at handling money. managing things, honesty and trust

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i feel all potential nominees need to submit their tax returns before even starting the primaries/caucuses
to atleast give people and IRS many months to find out how dodgy someone is at handling money. managing things, honesty and trust

Tax returns don't show any of those factors.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/09/justice-department-interest-hunter-biden-taxes-444139

Hunter Biden was under investigation since 2018 and media has promised you that they're still objective guys. Absolutely wonderful we are learning after the election.


On a side note, this doesn't make Trump's phone call to Volodymyr Zelensky didn't look so bad considering there was actual doubt into the legitimacy of Hunter Biden's business dealings. I expect liberals to pretend as if the NY Post was not banned for releasing this story and that the entire media was convincing everyone that the story with his laptop was baseless.

On a final note - You should never trust any former "intel officials". They are incompetent political hacks - https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276 They could not be more incorrect if they tried.
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December 11, 2020, 12:57:00 AM
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i feel all potential nominees need to submit their tax returns before even starting the primaries/caucuses
to atleast give people and IRS many months to find out how dodgy someone is at handling money. managing things, honesty and trust

Tax returns don't show any of those factors.

Totally true, tax returns don't really show a lot of substance anyway. At least for most people.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/09/justice-department-interest-hunter-biden-taxes-444139

Hunter Biden was under investigation since 2018 and media has promised you that they're still objective guys. Absolutely wonderful we are learning after the election.


On a side note, this doesn't make Trump's phone call to Volodymyr Zelensky didn't look so bad considering there was actual doubt into the legitimacy of Hunter Biden's business dealings. I expect liberals to pretend as if the NY Post was not banned for releasing this story and that the entire media was convincing everyone that the story with his laptop was baseless.

On a final note - You should never trust any former "intel officials". They are incompetent political hacks - https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276 They could not be more incorrect if they tried.

Ehhhhh. I still think the Trump phone call to Zelensky still looks pretty good because it points to a sitting President directing an investigation into a political enemy for the reason of wanting to take them out of the race.

Even if he was doing something wrong, you really don't want the President to be directing who is getting investigated and who isn't. I think it's a bit of a different story though if the President learns of people in the DOJ trying to cover up the story / stop the investigation due to some deep state conspiracy. Though I haven't seen any stories about that.




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UNREAL: Media Puts Off Hunter Biden Investigation Until After The Election
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znf-oHPzQOc

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All you need for an IRS criminal investigation is enough powerful people to say you are crooked, with enough pressure the IRS will look into anyone with such info.

So I think it is likely this 'investigation' on the whole was started less on facts (at the time, who knows what will show up) is a 'pre-emptive' strike over the next

Justice Department and Attorney General under the Biden Administration (even with no interference from the Biden Administration all the different state cases and

past the past losses like the Trump University and the Trump Charity Settlements and convictions..would have 'toggled' this anyway. My own 'guess' is there is

much less evidence for an IRS investigation on Biden's son or this IRS investigation would likely have been done all throughout the 2020 Presidential election season.

Thus now the China angle and the IRS investigating, in that the Ukraine dealings by Biden's son came to no crimes. IF there is something to on then the Justice

Department and the AG will also press charges if needed on Biden's son, once the new Justice Department inherits this on-going investigation. However, that is

in no way gonna stop the many investigations of the Trump family and Trump Corporation. A pardon is there only hope on 'federal charges alone" ..a pardon does

not to stop or limit state crimes. Also in a pardon, you have admitted guilt. For years, Gerald Ford kept to this view, that a pardon meant you were guilty of the

the crime you were pardoned of. If he is correct, Ford used to carry a Supreme Court decision around in his wallet on these kinds of questions, that Nixon got off the hook

on guilt. Ford disagreed and said a pardon said he was guilty. I quote below:

After Ford left the White House in 1977, he privately justified his pardon of Nixon by carrying in his wallet a portion of the text of
Burdick v. United States, a 1915 U.S. Supreme Court decision that stated that a pardon carries an imputation of guilt and that i
ts acceptance carries a confession of guilt."

So aside from Biden's son (who if guilty would be very unlikely to get a pardon from his father, unlike the Trump children). The US House, for example, could,

after the pardon of Trump or anybody from Roger Stone to Flynn to Trump himself...ask to testify on penalty of 'contempt of Congress' in hearings to get to

the bottom of all the Trump Administration's crimes anyway. In that you are pardoned, you are free and clear on being convicted on whatever such a hearing

can find out. Guilt or Innocence wise. BUT...by taking a pardon, you have 'waived' your right to self-incrimination in that you have already pleaded guilty by

taking the pardon. Thus you'd  have to tell the whole truth and nothing but no matter the question or you could be held for contempt of Congress on lying

to congress and not being forthcoming. Also again, there are the state investigations that could then use this evidence of guilt from the congress testimony

to go after whomever with those new facts as well. So we could be in for an interesting year. The pardons could further taint Trump's legacy and further

make deals with various states along with congressional testimony to get out from under all. Thus, from state investigations and state conviction point

of view it is still likely (unless deals are made before with state AG's before congressional subpoena testimony) most pardoned people could still end up

in prison. This is what is really keeping Trump up at night. A pardon can stop federal convictions, but the mere testimony with no self-incrimination and

Congressional testimony and contempt of Congress could lead to even more charges with such facts at the state level, in that the pardon never applied.

Fun times indeed in 2021. Future Historians are gonna have a 'field' day with the Trump Administration from every angle, from office worker to AG to

relatives to everybody. So again, I doubt the Biden investigation will rise to the circus-like aspects of the above Trump Administration folk's problems.

It is a sad day in America when without jest when Russian media offered Trump sanctuary today!  Sad

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I'm not a legal expert, though I'm pretty sure that this case was probably open prior to the election.
There were reports that Hunter Biden's laptop was seized by law enforcement via a subpoena prior to the election. This is a clear cut sign that there was an open investigation.

I have also read recent reports that Bill Barr was aware of an open investigation into Hunter Biden since April of this year, but worked to keep the existence of the investigation from leaking to the public. This would have been well before Biden had secured the nomination for President.
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NBC seems to be running with this story too, here's a piece from them talking about a new addition to this story

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/email-hunter-biden-raises-fresh-questions-about-his-tax-dealings-n1250973

New addition is stating that there's an email to Hunter Biden from a former business partner stating to him that he needed to amend his 2014 tax return to correct for the fact that he didn't list the Burisma income there. Spicy.




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December 13, 2020, 07:13:35 AM
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NBC seems to be running with this story too, here's a piece from them talking about a new addition to this story

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/email-hunter-biden-raises-fresh-questions-about-his-tax-dealings-n1250973

New addition is stating that there's an email to Hunter Biden from a former business partner stating to him that he needed to amend his 2014 tax return to correct for the fact that he didn't list the Burisma income there. Spicy.

NBC says the source is an email from Rudy Giuliani’s Attorney...apparently they had this information prior to the election? Obviously Giuliani is pro Trump, I'm surprised he would not have released this earlier.

I don't think it would have made any difference considering the entire story barely picked up any media attention, but it sure as hell would have put a rest to the myth that Joe Biden is this squeaky clean politician. Sure looks like he let his son license out his last name for metric ass loads of cash.
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December 13, 2020, 09:53:38 AM
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Some breaking news out of today that I assume everyone has already seen: Hunter Biden, President-Elect Joe Bidens son, is under federal tax investigation relating to his international consulting / business dealings.

We're not really sure exactly how long this investigation has been ongoing, I've heard some reports that it's been open since 2018 but this is the first time the DOJ has said something to the Bidens'.

I'm not a legal expert, though I'm pretty sure that this case was probably open prior to the election. There was no leaks for this particular investigation, and I think if there was it would've been another attack avenue for the whole Hunter Biden corruption thing that the Trump campaign was trying to do.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/09/hunter-biden-under-federal-investigation-over-taxes.html

the entire left democratic elite is full of criminals and neonazis

if the don't come to terms with trump and continue uplifting corrupt regimes like harris/biden, and support their woke losers

the will continue to keep america on a loser road

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December 13, 2020, 04:47:53 PM
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NBC seems to be running with this story too, here's a piece from them talking about a new addition to this story

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/email-hunter-biden-raises-fresh-questions-about-his-tax-dealings-n1250973

New addition is stating that there's an email to Hunter Biden from a former business partner stating to him that he needed to amend his 2014 tax return to correct for the fact that he didn't list the Burisma income there. Spicy.

NBC says the source is an email from Rudy Giuliani’s Attorney...apparently they had this information prior to the election? Obviously Giuliani is pro Trump, I'm surprised he would not have released this earlier.

I don't think it would have made any difference considering the entire story barely picked up any media attention, but it sure as hell would have put a rest to the myth that Joe Biden is this squeaky clean politician. Sure looks like he let his son license out his last name for metric ass loads of cash.

The part that strikes me is that even though the source is Rudy Giulianis attorney, they still think the story is credible enough to be run with. What's changed from the before the election NY Post story to now to make it 'credible enough' for the rest of the mainstream news companies to run with it too.

Yet again, all of this smells of a problem being hidden to ensure that Biden wouldn't lose to Trump on those last minute voters either deciding to not go out and vote or to go for Trump.




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December 13, 2020, 05:50:16 PM
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I don't think it would have made any difference considering the entire story barely picked up any media attention, 
There was a poll of Biden voters in various swing states that said almost 10% of those voted for him would have changed their votes if they had known about the various Biden scandals that were covered up by the media. This is enough to change Biden barely winning to Trump winning the swing states in a landslide.
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