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December 10, 2020, 04:47:56 AM
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Disappeared coins
Hello. Yesterday I've received 5 transactions to my electrum wallet, each to it's own never used address. 4 of them have been shown on the wallet  balance and in transactions history, 1 not. But, when I checked this address at blockchain and at electrum's addresses section they shown the coins arrived.
Than, I've sent coins from this address to another never used address (call it X) of my wallet using "spend from" options .  This transaction also was invisible in transaction history and balance but visible at blockchain and at wallet's addresses section.
Next I've sent a little part of the coins from X address to another one also assigned to my wallet but already used address. Same again. Not shown at the balance and history. 
After that I've sent a part of all available coins to other person, everything looked fine - transaction visible, balance has changed as it should. Invisible coins was not used and still in X wallet.
In some time I had to send coins again, but amount I had to send was bigger than available balance. I thought that I can send all available coins and will send the rest once I'll figure out how to fix the problem with address X and invisible coins.
I've sent almost all available coins, the balance has changed, the transaction has been done. Person confirmed that coins received. Everything looked fine, but when I checked address X it turned out that all coins from this address was used as a part for this transaction. Ok. But where are coins from available balance? I've sent amount which was less than available balance, and much less than available balance + coins from address X. If coins from address X was sent, an equivalent part of available coins had to stay at the balance, but they are gone.  What's wrong? Please help me to find the coins. By the way, invisible transaction with small amount became visible in same time I sent last transaction.   
Many thanks!

 
 
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December 10, 2020, 05:24:40 AM
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I've received 5 transactions to my electrum wallet, each to it's own never used address. 4 of them have been shown on the wallet  balance and in transactions history, 1 not. But, when I checked this address at blockchain and at electrum's addresses section they shown the coins arrived.
1 transaction can pay to multiple addresses. The only explanation I can think of is that 2 of your addresses received their payments from a single transaction which means you see 4 transactions in your history but 5 coins in your coins tab and correct balance in each address.

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Next I've sent a little part of the coins from X address to another one also assigned to my wallet but already used address. Same again. Not shown at the balance and history. 
This is not possible. If you send from an address from your wallet to an address from your wallet, your balance will not change (except for the small fee deduction) but you will see the transaction in the history tab.
If nothing changed at all, it is possible that you never actually sent that transaction. Either previewed it and then discarded the tx or saved it locally.

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I've sent amount which was less than available balance, and much less than available balance + coins from address X.
Make sure you are calculating what you received and what you've sent correctly. It is easy to make a mistake since you've already made multiple transactions here which are hard to follow.

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December 10, 2020, 05:43:05 AM
Last edit: December 10, 2020, 05:56:24 AM by bubbleintrouble
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1 transaction can pay to multiple addresses. The only explanation I can think of is that 2 of your addresses received their payments from a single transaction which means you see 4 transactions in your history but 5 coins in your coins tab and correct balance in each address.

These transactions was sent by me from exchange site. I've sent it in different time to a different addresses. I've calculated everything. I already had balance on my wallet and each new of 4 visible transactions was added to balance, and it was correctly changed.  Only 1 invisible transaction didn't acted to the balance and history.  

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This is not possible. If you send from an address from your wallet to an address from your wallet, your balance will not change (except for the small fee deduction) but you will see the transaction in the history tab.
If nothing changed at all, it is possible that you never actually sent that transaction. Either previewed it and then discarded the tx or saved it locally.


What about previous transaction to address X? I've sent the coins to X from first address In hope it will be visible, but nothing happen. This transactions is visible at blockchain but invisible in the wallet history.

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December 10, 2020, 06:05:53 AM
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What about previous transaction to address X? I've sent the coins to X from first address In hope it will be visible, but nothing happen. This transactions is visible at blockchain but invisible in the wallet history.
If by "visible at blockchain" you mean you can see it on a block explorer then it is simply impossible to not-see it in your wallet also as long as there isn't any issue with your connection.
Could you post these 5 transactions (their txids) and a screenshot of your history tab?

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December 10, 2020, 07:10:00 AM
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What about previous transaction to address X? I've sent the coins to X from first address In hope it will be visible, but nothing happen. This transactions is visible at blockchain but invisible in the wallet history.
If by "visible at blockchain" you mean you can see it on a block explorer then it is simply impossible to not-see it in your wallet also as long as there isn't any issue with your connection.
Could you post these 5 transactions (their txids) and a screenshot of your history tab?

With your help I've found mistake in my counting. You was right, I've received "invisible" transaction with another one... Thank you very much!!!!!
silly me ))
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