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What happened: Xeniumx plagiarized Origin Protocol whitepaper. They didn't copied few sentences or paragraphs here or there, they copied whole pages of text and basically whole idea of Origin Protocol. This can mean only one thing: scam. Therefore, I am tagging @ xeniumx and raising the flag Flag Type 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2519ANN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299019.0Archive https://archive.fo/vDXpWWebsite https://xeniumx.com/#teamArchive https://web.archive.org/web/20201211064028/https://xeniumx.com/#teamWhitepaper https://web.archive.org/web/20200919093633/https://xeniumx.com/xeniumx_whitepaper_01.pdfOriginal source https://www.originprotocol.com/en/whitepaperDomain name: xeniumx.com Registry Domain ID: 2499675610_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.comUpdated Date: 0001-01-01T00:00:00.00Z Creation Date: 2020-03-04T12:24:18.00Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2021-03-04T12:24:18.00Z Xeniumx copied basically whole whitepaper from Origin Protocol, project that was launched in 2019. On the left side you can see their c/p while one the right you can see original. There is more evidence, but this will do to make a point. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2F85ttWrF2%2Fxenium1.png&t=665&c=-r4JyobiFCF0ww) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2Fy6pL8cC9%2Fxenium2.png&t=665&c=GcSsGmdU0rIo7Q) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2Fjq1hbTy4%2Fxenium3.png&t=665&c=hlWrL0ex6TJmeQ)
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Supported the flag. Ncie find mate, they started their annoucnement so definitely a warn like this is enough to avoid further victims of this scam. These people are trying to fool others by introducing a scam copy paste from a major project. This is way lower than degen plays on unsiwap and quite ambitious to launch a very fresh one that copied all sources of info.
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I would like to know how xneiumx rebuttals about this catch if they are really silent then obviously this is a plagiarism project and should no longer develop in this forum but I am quite happy because it was just launched today immediately caught this is something where for them no longer glancing a project like this. Stay away !!
There are many opportunities but they are misused where they mostly plagiarize from the whitepapers of other projects, which is what causes other crypto projects to be suspected as well.
I support the flag.
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December 11, 2020, 04:23:01 PM |
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I would like to know how xneiumx rebuttals about this catch if they are really silent then obviously this is a plagiarism project and should no longer develop in this forum but I am quite happy because it was just launched today immediately caught this is something where for them no longer glancing a project like this. Stay away !!
I really don't see how they can justify this, as its blatant copy/paste of not just few pages, but majority of whitepaper. Few paragraphs or eventually page or two could slip due negligence, incompetence and laziness (but even that is serious offense and doesn't look much better) of the team, but in this case only intention is to fool people that there is some idea and goal behind this project, while there is only greed and nothing else. We may hear explanation like "we hired external team to make our whitepaper, we were scammed too", "we have similar idea so we just decided to use their content" or something along those lines, but in this case I think that they will just keep silent and ignore the issue.
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December 12, 2020, 11:17:37 AM |
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Please Note: Do Not Comment, This is just test...... Final release to be available by 15th December. Marketplace launch by 25th December and accessible as per time zone by 26th December. We are working on few models, working and reworking again, was not aware of this bitcointalk working method as should have saved in draft but got posted. However please be assured: the token is legit. Listed on several exchanges centralized and one decentralized one. We will be out with our SAAS marketplace by 25th December 2020 and already have registered users as all services are free on trial basis for one month for any users (community or non community members). About Linkedin Profiles: All are real and available in all discussions and on all social networks. Someone from here also trying to contact us for paid promotion of posts here. Not sure if all working as it looks here. But anyways once final things are released they will be available here. Also just for info we will be having full time support section with live chat facility so any community member or general user have any questions related any services we provide and/or some other queries related project will be provided with proper answers. We are in IT related industry from 2006 September with registered and owned offices. Will be happy to answer queries from 15th December 2020 after final launch. Thanks and Regards
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December 12, 2020, 11:21:22 AM |
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Please Note: Do Not Comment, This is just test...... Final release to be available by 15th December. Marketplace launch by 25th December and accessible as per time zone by 26th December. We are working on few models, working and reworking again, was not aware of this bitcointalk working method as should have saved in draft but got posted. However please be assured: the token is legit. Listed on several exchanges centralized and one decentralized one. We will be out with our SAAS marketplace by 25th December 2020 and already have registered users as all services are free on trial basis for one month for any users (community or non community members). About Linkedin Profiles: All are real and available in all discussions and on all social networks. Someone from here also trying to contact us for paid promotion of posts here. Not sure if all working as it looks here. But anyways once final things are released they will be available here. Also just for info we will be having full time support section with live chat facility so any community member or general user have any questions related any services we provide and/or some other queries related project will be provided with proper answers. We are in IT related industry from 2006 September with registered and owned offices. Will be happy to answer queries from 15th December 2020 after final launch. Thanks and Regards I would like to know how xneiumx rebuttals about this catch if they are really silent then obviously this is a plagiarism project and should no longer develop in this forum but I am quite happy because it was just launched today immediately caught this is something where for them no longer glancing a project like this. Stay away !!
There are many opportunities but they are misused where they mostly plagiarize from the whitepapers of other projects, which is what causes other crypto projects to be suspected as well.
I support the flag.
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OP Flag supported. Do Not Comment, This is just test......
Test?! No this is not a test, this is called Plagiarism and stealing from other people and showing it as your own work. Don't waste time because you will never be trusted in Bitcointalk forum.
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December 12, 2020, 12:16:47 PM |
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Do Not Comment, This is just test...... <snip> Seriously? I've never seen such a dumb excuse before. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It's not about the ANN topic on this forum, it's about your white paper. What kind of test would require posting plagiarized content on your website and all social profiles? Maybe some social experiment to see how long will it take before someone catches you?
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December 12, 2020, 12:28:38 PM |
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Keep up more "testing" like this and you will end up in the hall of shame of bitcointalk before you can say "Bitcoin".
Lorenzo's profile page is also not working. Didnt bother to check the rest though.
The plagiarized whitepaper is a big red flag for investors. Also these linkedIN profiles are shady too. I would rather ask investors to cross verify on different platforms if these people are actually related to the project and their pictures are being used within legal boundaries. We have seen how desperate scam projects become regarding this.
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December 12, 2020, 02:16:39 PM |
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Please Note:.. <snip..>
What?! What do you mean that your document is a test? The fact that you posted your information online implies that you understood the consequences of it. The fact that you tried to remedy your situation where you say that this is a test is just unacceptable. You plagiarized your whitepaper and there is no excuse from that. You deliberately copied the exact information on another website to make it appear that you constructed and formulated those ideas, which in fact do not. Thank you for posting this, Rikaflip. I will tag and support the flag.
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December 12, 2020, 04:24:59 PM |
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Do Not Comment, This is just test...... Final release to be available by 15th December. Marketplace launch by 25th December and accessible as per time zone by 26th December.
We are working on few models, working and reworking again, was not aware of this bitcointalk working method as should have saved in draft but got posted. However please be assured: the token is legit. Listed on several exchanges centralized and one decentralized one. We will be out with our SAAS marketplace by 25th December 2020 and already have registered users as all services are free on trial basis for one month for any users (community or non community members).
After seeing this type of explanation anyone will understand that you are just ignoring the accusation. Its doesn't matter when your project will be launched but OP is talking about your whitepaper plagiarism and surprisingly your are giving your selfmade answer without giving priority to main point. No one will believe your explanation and sorry to say that you are not the only person who said that the project is on testing mode. (After getting caught) Flag supported from my end and i will suggest forum newbies to keep distance from this project.
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Do Not Comment, This is just test......
I won't comment on that. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Flag supported from my end also tagged a user profile!
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The team are the ones behind RBCG. This is a list of team member's name ( Rikafip has the archive on opening post, so I will not archive it): Laurie Suarez - President Helen Coleman - VP Amy Church - Corporate Investment Director Jason Peddler - Director of Gaming Wendy Watson - Trading Director Andrew Gledhill - Admin Director Mandine Smythe - Administration and Tradex Director This is a screenshot of RBCG team emails from https://www.rbtalk.net/topic/rbcg-bank-organisation-chart | archived![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F8Mm9ZvP%2FRBCG-team.jpg&t=665&c=yHQzbGk9gWZqhw) They have striking resemblance, the only one new is Gledhill. I don't know if he's a new recruit or a stolen image, maybe I need to look further about him.
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The link with RBCG is interesting. If it is the same group of people running this scam it would not be a surprise. Once a scammer gets the taste of easy money from scams they cant let go of that taste - its like an addiction for them. The accused dont seem to respond after their last "test" - says they will come back after 25th Dec. My bet is that they will not be coming here at all at least not to clear their names or explain the reasons of these copied whitepapers or links to other ponzis. But they might run some more "test scams" again. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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December 16, 2020, 07:49:35 AM Last edit: December 16, 2020, 08:38:29 AM by Rikafip |
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Damn, great find! One look at Xeniumx website and I was sure that something weird is going on there so I wasn't surprised when I discovered plagiarized whitepaper but I had no idea that team behind it has previous involvement in serious scams. What's even crazier is that main man behind this, Laurie Suarez, doesn't mind showing his face around, even with his scam history. Based on that article he was involved in at least 3 scams before RBCG Bank, making Xeniumx his 5th scam, that we know of. Then again, we do know by now than scammers rarely give up after one scam attempt. They usually move on on another scam either after they perform exit scam or after they get busted. With that being said, we can expect from this team to move on to yet another scam. Rinse and repeat.
Someone from here also trying to contact us for paid promotion of posts here. Not sure if all working as it looks here.
Can you disclose who exactly contacted you offering that "service"?
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December 16, 2020, 07:10:29 PM |
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What's even crazier is that main man behind this, Laurie Suarez, doesn't mind showing his face around, even with his scam history. Based on that article he was involved in at least 3 scams before RBCG Bank, making Xeniumx his 5th scam, that we know of. This surprised me a bit or a bit more ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , I went yesterday through the Facebook group that is currently fighting him and trying to find a way to get back some of the money from the RBCG scheme and I was amazed at the info there. Suarez is not the usual scammer we're getting around here, not the kid with a WP site, or the groups that clone ICOs after ICOs, he is the genuine material, one that was convicted, that was running a Ponzi the day he got out of prison, he's known to the media, he doesn't try to hide or flee, schemes like that are his way of life. Hmm, I would say I'm quite impressed by this, not admiring him but Ponzi and online scammers usually give up when caught and their identity is exposed all over the internet, but not him, one search of his name and you get his felony charges, he isn't even trying to hide with a fake name, more like a professional hitman than a scammer. One thing is for certain, this guy won't quit, if he smells money he will stick around here till death with this project, with a thousand others, he will be around!
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Suarez is not the usual scammer we're getting around here, not the kid with a WP site, or the groups that clone ICOs after ICOs, he is the genuine material, one that was convicted, that was running a Ponzi the day he got out of prison, he's known to the media, he doesn't try to hide or flee, schemes like that are his way of life. Hmm, I would say I'm quite impressed by this, not admiring him but Ponzi and online scammers usually give up when caught and their identity is exposed all over the internet, but not him, one search of his name and you get his felony charges, he isn't even trying to hide with a fake name, more like a professional hitman than a scammer.
Yep, that guy is seasoned criminal who simply doesn't care and not the type we usually see around. I would expect for him to try to pull something bigger/better than copying whitepaper of a known project. I am only curious about other people's photos, whether he stole those from other people or those are real photos of his acomplices. One thing is for certain, this guy won't quit, if he smells money he will stick around here till death with this project, with a thousand others, he will be around!
That is for sure, this is probably not the last we see of him. This is his profession and main source of income.
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