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December 12, 2020, 01:12:27 PM
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Finally, WBA has ordered a trilogy for Moloney vs France to happened in 30 days or the fight will be called to purse bids. Moloney and his legal team with the help of Bob Arum filed NSAC. If you are not aware of, the second fight ended as No Contest with Franco retaining the belt he won against Moloney because of accidental head butt. But the replay shows that there are no illegal plays, it was the jab of Moloney that cause the swelling on France right eye, and it was very clear that this is a robbery.



https://www.boxingscene.com/franco-vs-moloney-wba-orders-trilogy-fight--153927

@bisdak40 - we will finally see the fight happening again. hehehe
This is going to be one hell of a fight. I will update this thread if there is a final date of the fight.

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December 12, 2020, 01:58:26 PM
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I think it is fair that Moloney is given the chance again for the belt. And I would agree that it was a clear as day robbery. And Franco's team know the rule book that's why they didn't go and fight after round 3 an he will retain the belt.

Moloney was ferocious when the bell rings in the first round and it was clearly his jab that causes the big swell and Franco is losing the fight as he was at a disadvantage. And it's good that it was ordered by WBA for them to settle it in a trilogy.

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December 13, 2020, 03:44:57 AM
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You can hear in the voice that Moloney was really disappointment in the second fight, he was almost crying when he is interviewed after the fight. He explained that he made a lot of sacrifices and train very hard only to be taken away from a bad call from the referee.

Russell Mora should be the one to blame here, there was no head butt and he shouldn't be referring a fight moving forward.

I'm sure Moloney will be the favorite, entering the trilogy and I'm not surprised for a knock out coming from Moloney.

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December 13, 2020, 05:05:00 AM
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@bisdak40 - we will finally see the fight happening again. hehehe
This is going to be one hell of a fight. I will update this thread if there is a final date of the fight.

It's good that they are ordering a trilogy at the soonest possible time. I will be watching this and still bet for Moloney. If not for that Referee, i could have won my bet as Moloney was the underdog on that second fight, i don't how the bookies will see this third fight maybe the will put Moloney as the favorite once again.

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December 13, 2020, 05:06:41 AM
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You can hear in the voice that Moloney was really disappointment in the second fight, he was almost crying when he is interviewed after the fight. He explained that he made a lot of sacrifices and train very hard only to be taken away from a bad call from the referee.

Russell Mora should be the one to blame here, there was no head butt and he shouldn't be referring a fight moving forward.

I'm sure Moloney will be the favorite, entering the trilogy and I'm not surprised for a knock out coming from Moloney.

Have they asked for a different referee in the upcoming fight? I think they all have the reasons to replace him. Seems that both sides will be training hard just to prove their sides here. We will be seeing a very good fight here.
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@bisdak40 - we will finally see the fight happening again. hehehe
This is going to be one hell of a fight. I will update this thread if there is a final date of the fight.

It's good that they are ordering a trilogy at the soonest possible time. I will be watching this and still bet for Moloney. If not for that Referee, i could have won my bet as Moloney was the underdog on that second fight, i don't how the bookies will see this third fight maybe the will put Moloney as the favorite once again.
Exactly, I see Moloney as the favorite again, just basing how sharp his jab that really makes the difference in the trilogy, bookies will for sure have Moloney here.

I wonder what happened to the referee though, he should also be suspended in this case because it is really a bad judgement on his part to call that it was a supposedly head butt that bring about the swelling, but it was Moloney continues jab on that side of Franco's face.
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December 13, 2020, 08:49:42 AM
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Great! I was frustrated about how their fight ended.

Have they asked for a different referee in the upcoming fight? I think they all have the reasons to replace him. Seems that both sides will be training hard just to prove their sides here. We will be seeing a very good fight here.
there was no mention of hiring a new referee in the article. but I can't say if it will still be the same referee on their rematch


▼▼▼ this makes me laugh. watching the slow-mo replay of their match it was clear that the start of swelling on franco's right eye was already there before the supposed "accidental headbutt" happened.
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Based on the [aformentioned] rules, and due to the fact that there is no clear evidence to determine whether Franco's eye swelling was due to the headbutt or by Moloney's jab to the area,

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December 13, 2020, 09:30:16 AM
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I was surprised honestly, I thought it was the same fighter that was defeated by Inoue because the last name was so familiar.
Just for FYI for those who are not really a boxing enthusiast, this fighter is Andrew Moloney and the one that is beaten by Inoue was Jason Moloney.

Anyone knows what's their relationship?

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December 13, 2020, 10:26:09 AM
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I was surprised honestly, I thought it was the same fighter that was defeated by Inoue because the last name was so familiar.
Just for FYI for those who are not really a boxing enthusiast, this fighter is Andrew Moloney and the one that is beaten by Inoue was Jason Moloney.

Anyone knows what's their relationship?

Well, I am wondering as well at first on who is the Moloney that Naoya Inoue was fighting and after some research on google Andrew and Jason are actually twins and both are a professional boxer that is why both share the same surname and face as well.



The controversial fight between Andrew Moloney and Joshua Franco was really rising some issue about the wrong call of the referee that the eye swelling was not due to the headbutt but a poke of a finger, because if you would look closely at the slow replay you can see that Franco's eye was still fresh after the headbutt, and it was then revealed that it was during a punch of Moloney that cause the swelling.
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December 13, 2020, 11:27:20 AM
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I was surprised honestly, I thought it was the same fighter that was defeated by Inoue because the last name was so familiar.
Just for FYI for those who are not really a boxing enthusiast, this fighter is Andrew Moloney and the one that is beaten by Inoue was Jason Moloney.

Anyone knows what's their relationship?

Well, I am wondering as well at first on who is the Moloney that Naoya Inoue was fighting and after some research on google Andrew and Jason are actually twins and both are a professional boxer that is why both share the same surname and face as well.



The controversial fight between Andrew Moloney and Joshua Franco was really rising some issue about the wrong call of the referee that the eye swelling was not due to the headbutt but a poke of a finger, because if you would look closely at the slow replay you can see that Franco's eye was still fresh after the headbutt, and it was then revealed that it was during a punch of Moloney that cause the swelling.

Wow, so they are twins, and they are both boxers, but this one Andrew is the better fighter I think.
Naoya Inoue also has a brother in boxing but not a twin, his name is Takuma Inoue (https://www.asianboxing.info/takuma-inoue.html).

Surprising, the twins has similar record
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/698248 (Andrew Moloney 21-1)

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/693965 (Jason Moloney 22-2, because he loss to Naoya Inoue. )


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December 13, 2020, 11:50:40 AM
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I checked the first two fights and I'm excited to see their meeting, this has a making of a good boxing match based on what I see in the first two fights, the two are both sluggers in their second match the referee ruled it out as a no contest when it should not be, this third match we'll see on who really is the best fighter, but there's a possibility of a 4th match here if Moloney wins the match via decision, based on what I see I'm netting for Moloney here.


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December 13, 2020, 06:37:28 PM
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I am not so sure if Moloney will become underdog in this upcoming event even if Franco holds the title, Moloney is clearly has the advantage in terms of experience even if he was beaten by a bad call of the referee. Though it already happened so you cannot do a thing about it even if the camp of Moloney will cry and tell the media that they were being rob at that time.

Andrew will surely to prepare this upcoming fight in order to avoid being rob again if possible he will KO his opponent if he has a chance. So what I will looking forward to it is how will Franco will react to their upcoming fight, what will be his strategies to retain his title.
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I am not so sure if Moloney will become underdog in this upcoming event even if Franco holds the title, Moloney is clearly has the advantage in terms of experience even if he was beaten by a bad call of the referee. Though it already happened so you cannot do a thing about it even if the camp of Moloney will cry and tell the media that they were being rob at that time.

Andrew will surely to prepare this upcoming fight in order to avoid being rob again if possible he will KO his opponent if he has a chance. So what I will looking forward to it is how will Franco will react to their upcoming fight, what will be his strategies to retain his title.

I believe bookies will still favour Moloney in this upcoming fight.
It was a clear "mistake" of the referee why Moloney didn't get the title.
We will not see the odds yet as the date is not yet established.
So interesting also what odds will the sportsbooks will give to this match.
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December 14, 2020, 01:15:27 AM
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Finally, WBA has ordered a trilogy for Moloney vs France to happened in 30 days or the fight will be called to purse bids. Moloney and his legal team with the help of Bob Arum filed NSAC. If you are not aware of, the second fight ended as No Contest with Franco retaining the belt he won against Moloney because of accidental head butt. But the replay shows that there are no illegal plays, it was the jab of Moloney that cause the swelling on France right eye, and it was very clear that this is a robbery.




I also seen the match and hear the commentators analysis, it's not a head but in any angle of the camera, but the referee's decision is final and referees are not perfect this is not the only case, this is big opportunity of both fighters to settle the score the first two fights are exciting to watch I'm pretty sure this one is also an exciting one.

But the thing is, they review the previous rounds, it went into replay and the judges and the referee watches it for 30 minutes (Nevada Athletics recently added this replay to all combat sports) and still they didn't see any head butt and they didn't change the referee's decision.

That's why they implemented this replay (similar to NFL), to be able to see and make the right call. But in this fight, millions around the world saw what really happen so this really messed this up and the best thing they can do is to have another fight, which is absurd to me, they should have let Moloney have the belt and then go for the trilogy. Anyways, if Moloney won this coming third fight then justice is served cold.

As for the referee, I agree that he should be suspended by WBA or any boxing body for at least a year.

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December 14, 2020, 01:55:31 AM
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Anyways, if Moloney won this coming third fight then justice is served cold.

As for the referee, I agree that he should be suspended by WBA or any boxing body for at least a year.

I hope he wins this time, I saw that second fight, and anyway I looked at it Moloney is winning and he is winning because of that busted or swollen eye, it was indeed a robbery and the fight should be awarded to Moloney by the decision of the governing body.
This time they should get a good referee with a clear vision and fair judgment.

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Well, I'm not an expert in this subject, but I think this is going to be a good fight...
I'm curious about this fight, but I also agree with some people here, I also see Moloney as a favorite again.

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December 14, 2020, 10:55:20 AM
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Trilogy is always an exciting fight as it will declared who really is the better fighter between the two.
I'm rooting for Moloney to win, I hope odds will be available early.

By the way OP, it's nice if you'll put a poll and ask us which fighter we are rooting to win.  Grin

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December 15, 2020, 07:56:46 PM
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Trilogy is always an exciting fight as it will declared who really is the better fighter between the two.
I'm rooting for Moloney to win, I hope odds will be available early.

By the way OP, it's nice if you'll put a poll and ask us which fighter we are rooting to win.  Grin

Yeah it's good to see the final match to decide who's the better between the two fighter.

It's good for all the fans seeing this Trilogy to how it will end. Gambling industry also rooting for this fight and for sure each gamblers are also waiting for early odd.

I'll wait for OP if he will consider your proposal in regards of adding poll it helps also to know the opinions of each gamblers inside the forum.

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December 15, 2020, 10:34:12 PM
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Trilogy is always an exciting fight as it will declared who really is the better fighter between the two.
I'm rooting for Moloney to win, I hope odds will be available early.

By the way OP, it's nice if you'll put a poll and ask us which fighter we are rooting to win.  Grin

Yeah it's good to see the final match to decide who's the better between the two fighter.

It's good for all the fans seeing this Trilogy to how it will end. Gambling industry also rooting for this fight and for sure each gamblers are also waiting for early odd.

I'll wait for OP if he will consider your proposal in regards of adding poll it helps also to know the opinions of each gamblers inside the forum.

I'm just curious, what if this bout will end in a draw, for sure it will not end in a trilogy only, what do you think? will there be a fourth fight after this?
Honestly, I'm not so familiar with these fighters, but since I love boxing and it's listed here, I'll certainly take a look of this fight and wants to see the betting odds as soon as it's announce when the fight would take place.

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August 13, 2021, 12:47:13 PM
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@bisdak40 - we will finally see the fight happening again. hehehe
This is going to be one hell of a fight. I will update this thread if there is a final date of the fight.

It's good that they are ordering a trilogy at the soonest possible time. I will be watching this and still bet for Moloney. If not for that Referee, i could have won my bet as Moloney was the underdog on that second fight, i don't how the bookies will see this third fight maybe the will put Moloney as the favorite once again.

Time flies fast and we are about to witness the trilogy of these controversial fighters. Odds are out and the favorite now is Moloney, opposite on the second fight where Franco was the favorite to win on that fight.

I hope this time, no more controversies and may the best fighter be really declared the winner.


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