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January 26, 2021, 05:28:38 PM
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Gamers are still using vega 56 for gaming, it hasn't passed by gamers like you said, that card will play any demanding games till date at 1080p with no problem, in my country people are still gaming with RX580 graphic card too

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January 26, 2021, 05:39:30 PM
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Gamers are still using vega 56 for gaming, it hasn't passed by gamers like you said, that card will play any demanding games till date at 1080p with no problem, in my country people are still gaming with RX580 graphic card too
In 2017, when the boom in demand for video cards for mining began, gamers could not purchase them.
In 1 month All video cards that could mine Ethereum disappeared from the store shelves. These video cards were cheaply sold in the secondary market in 2019,
perhaps then they were bought by gamers.

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January 26, 2021, 05:43:40 PM
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In Russia, the seller asks for $ 540 for a used Vega 56 video card produced in 2017.
This is the first problem. And the second problem is that these video cards were bought mainly by miners.
Gamers passed by these graphics cards.
Therefore, I prefer not to buy these graphics cards.
No no no, don't get it wrong, you can do research on your own using google, RX vega 56 is indeed very good for mining Ethereum, it can produce up to 52megahash per second, presently you can get one at 460$ on ebay, I believe that's still a fair price, it's not about been old or not, it's about profit making
I think you've mistaken RX5700XT with Vega 56 mining hashrate, only RX5700XT can do 54megahash and VEGa 56 can only do 32-34 megahash, check your calculator once again, Vega 56 isn't that good for Ethereum but better with Monero, the image below is for RX vega 56


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January 26, 2021, 07:47:09 PM
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In Russia, the seller asks for $ 540 for a used Vega 56 video card produced in 2017.
This is the first problem. And the second problem is that these video cards were bought mainly by miners.
Gamers passed by these graphics cards.
Therefore, I prefer not to buy these graphics cards.
No no no, don't get it wrong, you can do research on your own using google, RX vega 56 is indeed very good for mining Ethereum, it can produce up to 52megahash per second, presently you can get one at 460$ on ebay, I believe that's still a fair price, it's not about been old or not, it's about profit making
I think you've mistaken RX5700XT with Vega 56 mining hashrate, only RX5700XT can do 54megahash and VEGa 56 can only do 32-34 megahash, check your calculator once again, Vega 56 isn't that good for Ethereum but better with Monero, the image below is for RX vega 56



Maybe you are confused.

Vega 56 gets 50~60mhs.....all day long. 

Got several running in the range and mmpOS has a bunch of people running them at those speeds.  And vii's that do 100mhs....never underestimate the HBM!


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January 26, 2021, 07:56:07 PM
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RX Vega 56 and 64 have been around for a long time now, are there people still building rigs with these graphic cards? Since they are now old AMD cards I expect them to be cheaper right now, also are they still Profitable for a certain algorithm?
50mhs with vega at around 120watts. i love them. only reason i swapping to nvidia is vega is good at eth and not much else
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January 26, 2021, 08:04:31 PM
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RX Vega 56 and 64 have been around for a long time now, are there people still building rigs with these graphic cards? Since they are now old AMD cards I expect them to be cheaper right now, also are they still Profitable for a certain algorithm?
50mhs with vega at around 120watts. i love them. only reason i swapping to nvidia is vega is good at eth and not much else

How can I do that? From where I can download moded bios?

Tried on google but mods for gaming not for ETH, I found...

Thank you!

I didnt mod any of my vegas bios...just some software applied timings Smiley.

As for bios...TechPowerUp is the place to get a bios.

Flash it to its original 56 bios.  Even Vega 64's work better with the 56 bios.  Same hash less power / heat.

core 1090 / mem 1020  / v0.835 is one of my cards settings. 

Note every card is different you must move those around slightly especially memory and see what each card likes.  Mine generally run for days without doing a reboot. 
Timings for your card are what really helps and TeamRedMiner.  It varies by individual card.  But once you find your cards sweet spot...it mines.   Power will be 130w or under when done rights...then how low you can go and stable...well lottery again.  Some mod the bios to squeeze even more from it...i just use the timings applied on the fly.

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January 26, 2021, 08:19:06 PM
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I thought you are using modded bios. So, please help me with tweakings I use just MSI Afterburner to lower power for GPU and rise memory clocks, 965MHz is rock stable for that Gigabyte, thanks!

You should be able to use the AMDmemory tweak to set the timings in windows.  There is a thread only about the utility in this forum.

As for timings happy to share what works for one of mine....every one is a little different but none of my vegas are same batch/model/memory...etc...they are all mutts Smiley

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January 26, 2021, 10:23:55 PM
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RX Vega 56 and 64 have been around for a long time now, are there people still building rigs with these graphic cards? Since they are now old AMD cards I expect them to be cheaper right now, also are they still Profitable for a certain algorithm?
50mhs with vega at around 120watts. i love them. only reason i swapping to nvidia is vega is good at eth and not much else

How can I do that? From where I can download moded bios?

Tried on google but mods for gaming not for ETH, I found...

Thank you!
i dont mod vegas. all is AMD.Memory.Tweak.XL tool and right settings
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January 26, 2021, 10:26:00 PM
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I thought you are using modded bios. So, please help me with tweakings I use just MSI Afterburner to lower power for GPU and rise memory clocks, 965MHz is rock stable for that Gigabyte, thanks!

You should be able to use the AMDmemory tweak to set the timings in windows.  There is a thread only about the utility in this forum.

As for timings happy to share what works for one of mine....every one is a little different but none of my vegas are same batch/model/memory...etc...they are all mutts Smiley

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using same on both sapphire pulse and getting 50mhs
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January 27, 2021, 03:41:35 PM
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Hi
Please tell me which gpu is better for ETH ?
my budget is not much its about $600 and i know gpu is expensive for now but if i wan start then can you please tell me which one is better ?
if i want buy one gpu then please tell me which one is better ? for example  can i make $2 or $3 per day ? my electricity is cheap
thank you
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January 27, 2021, 03:53:15 PM
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Hi
Please tell me which gpu is better for ETH ?
my budget is not much its about $600 and i know gpu is expensive for now but if i wan start then can you please tell me which one is better ?
if i want buy one gpu then please tell me which one is better ? for example  can i make $2 or $3 per day ? my electricity is cheap
thank you

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February 05, 2021, 09:53:57 AM
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No BIOS mod needed.
Just timing modification with amdmemtweak

In my case, I'm trying to get 50.xx MH/s for the lower watts
Whole rig is at 1145W at wall (~140W per card in average)
(but I can reach 51-52 on Vega 56 if I don't care about watts)

My settings
amdmemtweak --gpu 0,3,6 --ras 26 --rcdrd 13 --rcdwr 12 --rc 38 --rp 12 --rrds 3 --rrdl 5 --rtp 6 --faw 12 -- cwl 8 --wtrs 4 --wtrl 9 --wr 13 --ref 24000 --rfc 239
amdmemtweak --gpu 1,2,4,5 --cl 18 --ras 23 --rcdrd 13 --rcdwr 11 --rc 34 --rp 13 --rrds 3 --rrdl 4 --rtp 6 --faw 12 --cwl 7 --wtrs 4 --wtrl 4 --wr 11  --rfc 164 --REF 17000

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February 05, 2021, 10:21:53 AM
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No BIOS mod needed.
Just timing modification with amdmemtweak

In my case, I'm trying to get 50.xx MH/s for the lower watts
Whole rig is at 1145W at wall (~140W per card in average)
(but I can reach 51-52 on Vega 56 if I don't care about watts)

My settings
amdmemtweak --gpu 0,3,6 --ras 26 --rcdrd 13 --rcdwr 12 --rc 38 --rp 12 --rrds 3 --rrdl 5 --rtp 6 --faw 12 -- cwl 8 --wtrs 4 --wtrl 9 --wr 13 --ref 24000 --rfc 239
amdmemtweak --gpu 1,2,4,5 --cl 18 --ras 23 --rcdrd 13 --rcdwr 11 --rc 34 --rp 13 --rrds 3 --rrdl 4 --rtp 6 --faw 12 --cwl 7 --wtrs 4 --wtrl 4 --wr 11  --rfc 164 --REF 17000

https://imgur.com/a/ik95H8I



Hi, I've been hearing about this timing thing on AMD graphic cards, can it work on RX580 or you have better settings for a RX580 gpu? I would like to see how far timing settings can work on RX580 graphic card, I will wait for a reply

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February 05, 2021, 02:09:22 PM
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I love my vegas....and the only thing better is the radeon vii....HBM is why these older cards kick so much arse.  You can keep your gddr memory..

vegas 50+mhs
vii 100+mhs

Took a while for folks to unlock the power but its there.  I paid $200 each for my used a couple years ago.
Vii were $699 msrp....even todays superstar cards cant touch that hash/$ in card cost. 
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February 05, 2021, 03:10:16 PM
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Hi, I've been hearing about this timing thing on AMD graphic cards, can it work on RX580 or you have better settings for a RX580 gpu? I would like to see how far timing settings can work on RX580 graphic card, I will wait for a reply
RX580 mem timing are already modified. That's why we have to mod them so they can reach 30+ MH/s

When I had 580 with bios mod, I run them core 1200 MHz @ 850-860mV and mem 2200 MHz @ 800mV  + REF 30 in HiveOS
They give me 32.00 MH/s with TRM 0.8.0
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February 05, 2021, 03:16:54 PM
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vegas is the strongest & endurance gpu i ever had, this thing even burn some component & smoked, still run and kicking lol unbelieveable

other my gpus already died around4-5years, but vegas still run without problem only replacing the fan, and there is no such thing vega run on 120w, check your wattmeter not hwinfo

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February 05, 2021, 03:26:57 PM
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+1
Never trust the bullshit watt that can be displayed
RX 580 reported @70W ?
Vega @100W ?

Nope !!! From experience and Wattmeter to the wall
RX 580 ~100-110W
Vega ~140-145W
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February 05, 2021, 03:43:06 PM
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+1
Never trust the bullshit watt that can be displayed
RX 580 reported @70W ?
Vega @100W ?

Nope !!! From experience and Wattmeter to the wall
RX 580 ~100-110W
Vega ~140-145W
What? My RX580 8gb is pulling 89 - 90 watts and that's a fact, I mean it's measured and correct, all I did was lower core voltage like some advice and it works, maybe you should try that too to see for yourself

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February 05, 2021, 03:55:02 PM
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+1
Never trust the bullshit watt that can be displayed
RX 580 reported @70W ?
Vega @100W ?

Nope !!! From experience and Wattmeter to the wall
RX 580 ~100-110W
Vega ~140-145W
What? My RX580 8gb is pulling 89 - 90 watts and that's a fact, I mean it's measured and correct, all I did was lower core voltage like some advice and it works, maybe you should try that too to see for yourself

Did you turn off rig :

1)remove the card  from the rig use your cpu's integrated gpu and get a k-watt meter reading at the plug?
2) add the card to rig set it up mining use your cpu's integrated gpu and get a k-watt meter reading at the plug?


did one reading say 200 watts or what ever
second reading say 290 watts or what ever

above is proper way to know what your card does mining

and of course check hash rate at the pool not the gui as the pool is the one that pays the money.

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February 05, 2021, 06:47:25 PM
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+1
Never trust the bullshit watt that can be displayed
RX 580 reported @70W ?
Vega @100W ?

Nope !!! From experience and Wattmeter to the wall
RX 580 ~100-110W
Vega ~140-145W
What? My RX580 8gb is pulling 89 - 90 watts and that's a fact, I mean it's measured and correct, all I did was lower core voltage like some advice and it works, maybe you should try that too to see for yourself

Did you turn off rig :

1)remove the card  from the rig use your cpu's integrated gpu and get a k-watt meter reading at the plug?
2) add the card to rig set it up mining use your cpu's integrated gpu and get a k-watt meter reading at the plug?


did one reading say 200 watts or what ever
second reading say 290 watts or what ever

above is proper way to know what your card does mining

and of course check hash rate at the pool not the gui as the pool is the one that pays the money.

This....

If you didnt do this..you are reading from the miner screen and its well documented that amd doesnt report anything but power to the gpus asic.  Nvidia is better but nothing is as good as the run it measure with actual dvm (or analog if you old school) and then put it back in and measure again.  Simple subtraction nets the actual power draw.  Lack of this is what leads to burnt wires and overloaded psus. 
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