[SOLVED] Adkinsbet scammed me 66.3mbt

[BlackFor3st]

I do not know the names of this professional gambling group, but at least we have this post from the archive



I also suggest to Spyros20 not to bump this topic the whole time with irrelevant information like he is doing now, and wait for a reply from Adkinsbet.

[spyrosc200]

Glad that my post got attention from the ''paid dogs''. Now is so obvious to everyone what i am talking about

Will not spend more energy with you, it is clear what you are doing

List of paid dogs includes but not limited to:  yayayo, deadthings, qory, condegnone, coin.princess, gadado, safari88, RokokGudangGaram, Cacingkemi, BTCGOLD, BitcoinAccepted, cutesgirl, aomakun, sempak, MI6, ongkok87,  BlackFor3st, imutlinda, pungopete468, mardaed, nasipadang, ufaiz50, cryptomaniac_xxx, aomakun, zidanw, qory, john_nautica, wildan88, msarro.

Waiting rest dogs to suddenly discover this topic  

[AdkinsBET]

If people feel they have been disadvantaged by us, they have every right to start a topic here. What we at Adkinsbet don't appreciate are the professional allegations about the so-called "paid dogs".
We are open for every discussion of course, in a respectful way without threats.

There is an active group of professional gamblers who have been able to cheat due to a delay in our api.
We use the same api as 1xbit and 1xbet, but we have no relationship with BETB2B or any of the above companies.
We are still working to fix this cheating possibility at the moment.
We have 100% proof that this group has created duplicate and multiple accounts on the forum purely deliberately with the aim of scamming our site. In the beginning we paid these players.
After that, we closed new accounts and kept the money as we have 100% certainty that these are the same scammers as before.
For privacy reasons, I do not want to disclose these usernames on the forum.

As for the user spyrosc200: We found evidence that this user might be involved in this professional gambler group. However, because we only want to make a judgment after sufficient evidence, we have taken the necessary time to investigate this.
We informed spyrosc200 a few days ago that his bets and account were valid, and we can confirm that he has nothing to do with the group of scammers.

We are a new bookmaker, right now we are behind our decision. We are of course open to solving this, if it turns out that our decision was not the correct one.
We do not tolerate false accusations from users, as this can cause serious image damage.

If experienced users or DT users have a different opinion than our current decisions, then we are certainly open to this and will also pay the user in question (under certain conditions).
I think everyone would agree that the moment you inflict serious image damage on a site, there are consequences.
Spyros is welcome to engage a mediator, and if we prove wrong, we will be happy to pay this 66.3 mBTC

[janggernaut]

As for the user spyrosc200: We found evidence that this user might be involved in this professional gambler group. However, because we only want to make a judgment after sufficient evidence, we have taken the necessary time to investigate this.
We informed spyrosc200 a few days ago that his bets and account were valid, and we can confirm that he has nothing to do with the group of scammers.

Hm what's professional gambler group? Does that mean OP is one of professional gambler? How long you will investigate the evidence you have found? Since you have said OP has nothing to do with scammer groups.

 

Spyros is welcome to engage a mediator, and if we prove wrong, we will be happy to pay this 66.3 mBTC

Does that mean you've admitted locked OP's 66.3 mBTC?

I'm not OP's side nor adkinsbet, just wanna post my opinion about this. I also agree OP shouldn't calling people by "paid dogs" since those people are expressing their opinion as well. If their words seems trying to defend adkinsbets,it doesn't mean they are working or get paid under adkinsbets.

[BitcoinAccepted]

I don't think Spyros is involved in these fixed bets. He may be rude and cheeky on the forum and shows no respect for other people, but he is certainly not a match fixer.

I am pretty sure that that is also not the problem on the site.

What I see in the site's terms and conditions from Adkinsbet is this:

We may choose to close, suspend or temporarily limit your account if we reasonably believe you are not complying with our terms and conditions, or to maintain the integrity of our service.


You can ask yourself within which frameworks this falls. In fact, the integrity of the service is being violated, but the question is whether that is enough to close an account and confiscate the fund.

Spyros has already received a payout a few times. I also don't think it is very useful to threaten that you want to be paid, because otherwise you will start an accusatin topic.

Adult people first solve this communicatively via the Email, without threats.

I am aware that Spyros also accused me that I am a paid dog. I wonder how many other accounts he will mention as well.

I do not blame him, this user Spyros seems to be a bit paranoid at this point now and probably forgotten to take his medicines.

[Beparanf]

If experienced users or DT users have a different opinion than our current decisions, then we are certainly open to this and will also pay the user in question (under certain conditions).
I think everyone would agree that the moment you inflict serious image damage on a site, there are consequences.
Spyros is welcome to engage a mediator, and if we prove wrong, we will be happy to pay this 66.3 mBTC

I'm not a DT and not a paid dog but you have the right to suspend or freeze any account that you found any suspicious activity such as winning consecutively because you need to protect your business. Casino is not a charity that will giveaway money to all user playing on it, of course your is to have profit to sustain your business operating cost.

It's usual to receive some accusation here because there's always an isolated case for this kind of issue. Most important things to consider is to become transparent on answering all questions here and nevet get tired replying on question. I suggest that you should use the bitcointalk notifier bot in telegram so that you will receive notification once someone mention you in there post. It will be easier for you reply on all question here in the forum.

Check it out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248878.0

[spyrosc200]

Seems that nobody is paying to how discussion in Adkins topic escalated to ''paid dogs'':

Let's get facts once again:

A user had his funds confiscated due to arbitrage bets.

I expressed my own opinion in the post below:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55668862#msg55668862

You see anything wrong in my response? Ofcourse not. All of a sudden, i received the following responses:

A) user rijaljun accused me that i am abusing the site (!)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55669521#msg55669521

B) user john_nautica called me criminal and cheater (!)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55669555#msg55669555

C) user yayayo accused me for match fixing and being an alt account with other members who had their profits confiscated (!)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55670697#msg55670697

d) user safari88 called me an alt account and a cheater (!)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55670703#msg55670703

e) user pungopete468 called me a troll and accused me for DOS Attack of adknisbet (!!!)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55670726#msg55670726

f) user BitcoinAccepted called me a troll and manipulator (!)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55672016#msg55672016

g) user cutesgirl wrote that i am suspicious for adkins DOS Attack (!!!)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55672055#msg55672055

h) user BlackFor3st wrote that i am an alt account with some other users who is bullshit, he also accused me for Adkins Dos Attack (!!!)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55672873#msg55672873

i) user imutlinda agrees with BlackFor3st that i am responsible for Adkins Dos Attack (!!!)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55672886#msg55672886

As said, i received all this attack due to this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55668862#msg55668862

Then user BlackFor3st  posted first about ''mother and Dos Attacks''
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55673102#msg55673102

As a response to all those nonsense accusations i described above, i posted this:

''It is funny how those jokers get paid 1-2 euros to defend adkins bet but in reality they DESTROY adkins reputation.

Keep on trolls, continue posting bullishits to get paid 1-2 euros per post!

Even Adkins paid the disputed arbitrage bets but you are such an idiots that you don't even read Adkins response!

Big clowns who can sell their mother for 2 euros!''

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55673300#msg55673300

Now all of a sudden, noone gives attention on how discussion escalated, noone saw the unjustified accusations against me, they only find it logical to have my winnings confiscated cause i called them ''paid dogs''. Can you believe it??? Noone will ever accept that as it is against any TOS and against industry standarts!!![/b]

What should someone do when he is being repeatedly accused by 20+ members who act as a team with no justifications at all? Give them flowers? Of course not!

[gadado]

Is it really that difficult to behave yourself on this forum? Sometimes I have the feeling I am talking with a child from 8 years old when I see your posts.
You have already started your accusation, it is not allowed to bump it within 24 hours.
But feel free to continue posting, the more incredible you come across after all your statements  

[spyrosc200]

Is it really that difficult to behave yourself on this forum? Sometimes I have the feeling I am talking with a child from 8 years old when I see your posts.
You have already started your accusation, it is not allowed to bump it within 24 hours.
But feel free to continue posting, the more incredible you come across after all your statements  

I am not bumping.

I am adding valuable info that anyone who doesn't belong to your team will understand it.

You can continue with the known tactic of changing the direction of the discussion, you do this all day in adkins topic lol.

The more you post the more easy is for anyone to understand what is going on

[codegnome]

If you have a problem with an account, you need to fix it with the account in question or the person sitting with it. What you've done now is accuse Adkinsbet of having some profiles talk positively about the site.
You don't have much sense, by the way. As you mentioned earlier, a number of accounts indicated that cheaters should not be paid, while Adkinsbet did pay these cheaters in the beginning. Your logic is wrong (again).
If you accuse someone you have to come up with evidence, not assumptions with your "paid dogs". You are giving the site a bad reputation while referring to TIMOM, a professional scammer who burns down all the sites on the forum. Why are you standing up for a scammer?

[ufaiz50]

You can continue with the known tactic of changing the direction of the discussion, you do this all day in adkins topic lol.

You are someone who likes to be out of the rules, I get the idea.

Is it allowed to change subject within a topic? Yes

Is it allowed to troll like you did in the ann topic? No

You told people they have to write an accusation topic when they have a problem.
Then, when you have a problem on the site, you started trolling in their ann topic.

[spyrosc200]

If you have a problem with an account, you need to fix it with the account in question or the person sitting with it. What you've done now is accuse Adkinsbet of having some profiles talk positively about the site.
You don't have much sense, by the way. As you mentioned earlier, a number of accounts indicated that cheaters should not be paid, while Adkinsbet did pay these cheaters in the beginning. Your logic is wrong (again).
If you accuse someone you have to come up with evidence, not assumptions with your "paid dogs". You are giving the site a bad reputation while referring to TIMOM, a professional scammer who burns down all the sites on the forum. Why are you standing up for a scammer?

Can you give me an explanation why 20 people acted as a team and accused me for DOS Attacked, called me liar, a scammer, an alt account, simply due to this post?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55668862#msg55668862

What was the need to attacked me as a team?

Why you never said anything about those 20+ people who accused me in purpose for no reasons at all?

[ongkok87]

Probably because you are very disrespectful to others. If you just write that people are paid dogs, you are a disrespectful bastard. Nobody will speak to you in a decent way anymore.
The reason this is now because there was a group of scammers active on the forum and they attacked Adkinsbet with cheating, it seems logical to me that accounts then take the side of the bookmaker because nobody wants these scammers on the forum. And since you're defending these scammers, you've made yourself a suspect.
if you would have acted normal, I am sure nobody would have attacked you.

[spyrosc200]

Probably because you are very disrespectful to others. If you just write that people are paid dogs, you are a disrespectful bastard. Nobody will speak to you in a decent way anymore.
The reason this is now because there was a group of scammers active on the forum and they attacked Adkinsbet with cheating, it seems logical to me that accounts then take the side of the bookmaker because nobody wants these scammers on the forum. And since you're defending these scammers, you've made yourself a suspect.
if you would have acted normal, I am sure nobody would have attacked you.

You are wrong.

I expressed my own opinion here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55668862#msg55668862

Then i was attacked from 20 members who as a team attacked me. This is when i called ''paid dogs''!

Who is the cheater at the end when Adkinsbet admitted that my bets were ok, yet 20 people accused me as a cheater?

Of course Adkinsbet later said ''Hey, you called those 20 people ''paid dogs'', we will confiscate your winnings'' lol

Have explained everythings few posts above, read it.

[cutesgirl]

If you have a problem with an account, you need to fix it with the account in question or the person sitting with it. What you've done now is accuse Adkinsbet of having some profiles talk positively about the site.
You don't have much sense, by the way. As you mentioned earlier, a number of accounts indicated that cheaters should not be paid, while Adkinsbet did pay these cheaters in the beginning. Your logic is wrong (again).
If you accuse someone you have to come up with evidence, not assumptions with your "paid dogs". You are giving the site a bad reputation while referring to TIMOM, a professional scammer who burns down all the sites on the forum. Why are you standing up for a scammer?

Can you give me an explanation why 20 people acted as a team and accused me for DOS Attacked, called me liar, a scammer, an alt account, simply due to this post?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55668862#msg55668862

What was the need to attacked me as a team?

Why you never said anything about those 20+ people who accused me in purpose for no reasons at all?

When Adkinsbet's site was attacked by a DDos attack, a group of trolls were active on the forum at the same time. The professional scam artists who robbed Adkinsbet.
And you clearly sided with these scammers here. do you actually understand how serious this situation was with that DDos attack?
The problem is not your way of thinking, but the way how you express it. If you talk with more respect to people, then you achieve much more then just accusing and threatening.

[spyrosc200]

So your are telling me that you see nothing strange for 20+ people who acted as a team to attack me and calling me a liar, a cheater, an alt account, a manipulator, due to the post below?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55668862#msg55668862

I would repeat the same answer again and again.

Even adkinsbet paid that bets, yet you find it logical to being accused from 20 people for that post lol.

[qory]

There is something very wrong with your thinking and your logic. You also think that you understand a lot of the gambling world, while you actually do not understand much of it in terms of content.
Like this post:

Arbitrage betting is not allowed from 99% of bookmakers. This is known and accepted.

YET, according to industry standards the guy should get paid in FULL.

Adkins can limit him but not confiscate his money.

After all, would Adkins gave him back his losses if the guy lost those ''arbitrage'' bets? Obsiously not.

Would also like to see the betting history of this guy. Interested to check the so called ''arbitrage'' bets myself and compare adkins odds with other bookmakers odds at the specific time.

You are trying to be interesting by saying that arbitrage bets are not allowed at 99% of the bookmakers and that it is accepted by the community. and next, you write that if it happens, then the bookmakers have to pay out the winnings. can you explain why bookmakers have to pay an arbitrage bet if it is not allowed? If something is not allowed, then it is not allowed and a bookmaker take sanctions.
if you would have read the topic from adkinsbet more proper then you would have know that your buddy TIMOM is also part of the professional cheaters group.

adkinsbet also replied on this so stop posting your useless information and ask help from DT members here on the forum or SBR adkinsbet told that they are open for a discussion and if it can be proven they take the wrong decision they will pay you. right now you are only crying here on the topic that is not the purpose if posting an accusation

[codegnome]

I also don't really understand what his problem is now. Even though Adkinsbet has the right to close their account, they still state that they are willing to resolve it if they are found to have made the wrong decision. So instead of spamming here (you have already posted 10 messages again) you better stop posting and look for a solution like a mediator on the forum, someone who can communicate in a normal way.

[spyrosc200]

There is something very wrong with your thinking and your logic. You also think that you understand a lot of the gambling world, while you actually do not understand much of it in terms of content.
Like this post:

Arbitrage betting is not allowed from 99% of bookmakers. This is known and accepted.

YET, according to industry standards the guy should get paid in FULL.

Adkins can limit him but not confiscate his money.

After all, would Adkins gave him back his losses if the guy lost those ''arbitrage'' bets? Obsiously not.

Would also like to see the betting history of this guy. Interested to check the so called ''arbitrage'' bets myself and compare adkins odds with other bookmakers odds at the specific time.

You are trying to be interesting by saying that arbitrage bets are not allowed at 99% of the bookmakers and that it is accepted by the community. and next, you write that if it happens, then the bookmakers have to pay out the winnings. can you explain why bookmakers have to pay an arbitrage bet if it is not allowed? If something is not allowed, then it is not allowed and a bookmaker take sanctions.
if you would have read the topic from adkinsbet more proper then you would have know that your buddy TIMOM is also part of the professional cheaters group.

adkinsbet also replied on this so stop posting your useless information and ask help from DT members here on the forum or SBR adkinsbet told that they are open for a discussion and if it can be proven they take the wrong decision they will pay you. right now you are only crying here on the topic that is not the purpose if posting an accusation

You have no idea of betting if you think legit bookies void arbitrage bets.

They don't like arbitrage bets but they pay them.


Even if i was wrong, why 20 people acted as team, called me a liar, a cheater, a manipulator, responsible for Adkins DOS Attack?

Since when Pinnacle or Bet365 void arbitrage bets? Pinnacle accept arbitrage, Bet365 they pay you and they kick you/limit you.End of story.

Unless you speak about 1XBET scammers, all reputable books pay those bets and they kick the users as they don't like them.

[VanityWallets2015]

So your are telling me that you see nothing strange for 20+ people who acted as a team to attack me and calling me a liar, a cheater, an alt account, a manipulator, due to the post below?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.msg55668862#msg55668862

I would repeat the same answer again and again.

Even adkinsbet paid that bets, yet you find it logical to being accused from 20 people for that post lol.

People in the forum hate scammers, and cheaters. Many people react very strongly when these kinds of situations arise. It has been proven and clear that there were customers on the site at Adkinsbet who knowingly cheated. You can find circumstantial evidence here in this post.

The whole problem is that you link those accounts directly to Adkinsbet, that it would pay for those accounts. Ever occurred to you that people just hate scammers and aren't welcome on the forum? You should know for yourself that you want to accuse accounts of conspiracy, but you have now accused Adkinsbet of paying dogs while they have nothing to do with it. That's why they made this decision.
You should have be more careful with your words, I think. Instead of behaving in a normal way, you are just continue with accusing here.

If you want to solve this, stay to the point and only post if you have valuable information. You are now only writing your frustrations.
Now this topic is getting bumped every time with a discussion about nothing.