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December 13, 2020, 08:47:03 AM
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I believe we should have a discussion on why it's so important to defend the bitcoin network to the death.

(metaphorically speaking, we don't have to sacrifice any life.)
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December 13, 2020, 08:51:15 AM
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This is not a cult. You don't have to defend the network with your lives.

It's highly unlikely that Bitcoin will 'die' unless there is a catastrophic event that brings down the entire internet and all of the hard drive's contents. The number of nodes that are present on the network ensures that there is sufficient redundancy. It also won't really matter that much if Bitcoin gets abandoned because there'll probably be a better version of the crypto available.

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December 13, 2020, 10:49:19 AM
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For there to be a discussion on this you would have to bring examples of when the Bitcoin network was being defended to the death.
If someone comes along to spread fud, or wrong information in the community, then of course other users would correct them or dismiss their opinions if they're just trolls. This doesn't mean that any constrictive criticism would be dismissed; if you stick around long enough you'll come across open discussions on scalability as well as spike in transaction fees.

There a saying which I came across a while back which I'll paraphrase here as I can't remember the exact words;
"Watch where you put your feet and when you're convinced it's the right step, set your feet strongly".

This means if someone has considered the pros and cons of Bitcoin and has reached the conclusion that it is worth defending and could change the financial system, they would become very enthusiastic about it and debunk any misinformation.

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December 13, 2020, 10:54:23 AM
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I believe we should have a discussion on why it's so important to defend the bitcoin network to the death.

(metaphorically speaking, we don't have to sacrifice any life.)

I don't think we need to exaggerate things here, bitcoin's network has been running a unprecedented 99% uptime if I'm not mistaken for the last 10 years or so. Meaning there are really people without getting incentives to keep the network secure.

And nodes will keep growing regardless, it is decentralised and this is one of bitcoin's strength and everyone knows this since the beginning. And it is not that it is going down a bit, so defend it to death is such a exaggeration.

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December 13, 2020, 10:58:15 AM
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I believe we should have a discussion on why it's so important to defend the bitcoin network to the death.

(metaphorically speaking, we don't have to sacrifice any life.)

metaphorical?
not metaphor is a meaning based on an equation or comparison of words. So you mean here to pair the word bitcoin network with life?

It's clear that if your life ends and dies, bitcoins will still be around. because the age of bitcoin is not determined by your age. Unless you have bitcoin, you are unlikely your offspring will continue
In essence, if the life in the world is finished, the bitcoin network will automatically be completed.

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December 13, 2020, 11:10:33 AM
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I believe we should have a discussion on why it's so important to defend the bitcoin network to the death.

(metaphorically speaking, we don't have to sacrifice any life.)

ponder this quote

I'm sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume.
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December 13, 2020, 11:15:48 AM
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We don't need to defend bitcoin to death because it will never die even in the future, there are so many numbers of nodes on the internet that is circulating the world of crypto. Internet is the only threat for the world of crypto, once the internet has gone then the bitcoin and even the world crypto will also go but that is somehow impossible to happen because the Internet is already part of our daily lives and no one can stop it.

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December 13, 2020, 02:45:18 PM
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it sounds too much to defend the bitcoin network to death. Who will be between us and bitcoin?
of course bitcoin will continue to run the network. provided that we can click full access to the internet.

bitcoin has run over time and left its holders dead. This of course indicates that bitcoin will not die quickly if we all avoid the third world war.

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December 13, 2020, 04:26:34 PM
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In highly unlikely anticipated event where internet comes down, I think you can't defend the bitcoin network.
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December 13, 2020, 04:31:58 PM
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In highly unlikely anticipated event where internet comes down, I think you can't defend the bitcoin network.

Government around the world decide to forbidden the use of BTC just like what other country did before like China and India. Law is the natural of the new technologies especially when we are talking about finance since there are some famous people that controlling the majority of banking system of the world. They can easily manipulate the government if ever BTC will hurt there business.

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December 13, 2020, 06:24:43 PM
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You don't need to defend it to the death, whatever that means, just running a full node and talking about Bitcoin's advantages to your friends is more than enough. Bitcoin is not relying on its supporters defending it, if it was, it would have been a pretty poor design, because pure belief is hard to achieve and maintain, which is why Bitcoin uses economic incentives to function - you don't need to defend Bitcoin from a 51% attack, for example, miners will do it because staying honest is simply the best strategy.

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December 13, 2020, 06:40:24 PM
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We are already de :Pfending so called network to death, by adopting it in the mainstream era of digital world. Just imagine how we have started using bitcoin on the mass scale and how people has set up huge mining farms around the globe. I don't think that these mining farms will go abandoned after so much investment into it and so much profitability is already accomplished by them.

These farms are working around the clock to keep the blockchain strong enough to stay forever. Moreover consider the giant public network where every computer is connected, it's not easy to take it down at this stage.

Just brace yourself to see newer development every other year and wait for this network to become so much sophisticated that there won't be any power off for it. :-)
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December 13, 2020, 06:51:07 PM
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As long as bitcoin works this way there is nothing to defend, given that BTC is defending itself pretty handsomely since its inception. Do your small part running a node, explaining others about the real bitcoin specs and everything will continue to work.
This may turn into the best nonviolent (financial) revolution the world has ever seen.
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December 13, 2020, 08:09:41 PM
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For there to be a discussion on this you would have to bring examples of when the Bitcoin network was being defended to the death.
This was exactly my thinking as well, what kind of scenario does the OP have in mind, right now there is no existential threat to bitcoin and there will not be one for some time, one of the ones that are brought most of the time are quantum computers and while such technology could be a threat it is not something that will appear out of nowhere, the developers will have years if not a decade to do something about it.

So there is no need to be so dramatic about defending bitcoin and the network since that is something a great deal of people have an interest not only for ideological reasons but also because there is so much money invested in bitcoin now that it is slowly becoming too big to fail.

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December 13, 2020, 08:57:00 PM
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What do you mean by "defend"? Like physically? Take the fight to the streets, protest against our governments if they try to ban it?

My way of protecting it is providing arguments. I'm willing to take on every critic out there and debate with them. I'm also defending it by hodling. Any other ways how we can do it?
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December 13, 2020, 09:20:22 PM
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I believe we should have a discussion on why it's so important to defend the bitcoin network to the death.

(metaphorically speaking, we don't have to sacrifice any life.)

I don't think we need to exaggerate things here, bitcoin's network has been running a unprecedented 99% uptime if I'm not mistaken for the last 10 years or so. Meaning there are really people without getting incentives to keep the network secure.

And nodes will keep growing regardless, it is decentralised and this is one of bitcoin's strength and everyone knows this since the beginning. And it is not that it is going down a bit, so defend it to death is such a exaggeration.

i dont know where the OP got the idea of his statement. but yeah, theres no need to defend or anything because there's nothing to defend for in the first place. we can say that the btc network is relatively secure as there are people who are into this even without the request of the community.
or maybe the op meant defend the existence of btc to other nonbelievers? anyway, we cant push other people to believe in crypto or btc in particular, you can educate them but it is still up to them how they will use crypto in their lives. dont expect that they will embrace at the first time they will hear it. but only a matter of time before they realized whats their missing...

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December 13, 2020, 10:08:13 PM
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what conditions threaten the bitcoin network that we have to defend it to the death? is it a 51% attack? is it the regulation? or quantum computers?
I believe that people with power (funds and knowledge) i.e. the developers and miners have been working so hard all the time to ensure that the problem solved and also provide solutions to problems that may occur in the future. Bitcoin has been growing rapidly over the last 10 years and there is more positive adoption of bitcoin in the world of traditional finance, even some countries are classified as bitcoin-friendly. every problem has a solution.
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I believe we should have a discussion on why it's so important to defend the bitcoin network to the death.

(metaphorically speaking, we don't have to sacrifice any life.)
Many things people can do to help bitcoin and bitcoin network.

Run a full node and connect its to other full nodes to help to have more backup of the network records and help bitcoin network is more decentralized.
Use non custodial wallet and manage the recovery progress. It helps you control your bitcoin and help the network has less lost bitcoin. https://wasabiwallet.io/

Use DEX: bisq, localcryptos, hodlhodl.
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Try to use bitcoin for your shopping to help the growth of bitcoin adoption.
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December 14, 2020, 05:38:43 AM
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Even if we are not talking metaphorically, the attacks against the network is relentless that it becomes impossible for a one man army to defend it. Defending something you benefit from should come to an extent and I think putting almost your entire life is not an ideal move to be honest. Bitcoin needs people that think for themselves, not sycophants who will be easily dissuaded that bitcoin can do no wrong. People like that is the worst because they will not listen to a voice of reason if the thing that they love is criticized. Isn't it a bit smarter if you save your own skin rather than your ideal because if you live then your ideals will live too.

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December 14, 2020, 12:31:16 PM
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This is not a cult. You don't have to defend the network with your lives.

Bitcoin can live longer than our lives so it is not such a worry and he already stated that we will not do it literally where we should waste our lives, it is not like that.

It's highly unlikely that Bitcoin will 'die' unless there is a catastrophic event that brings down the entire internet and all of the hard drive's contents. The number of nodes that are present on the network ensures that there is sufficient redundancy. It also won't really matter that much if Bitcoin gets abandoned because there'll probably be a better version of the crypto available.

What do you mean? A war? Absolutely when things like that happens and weapon of mass destruction occurs then probably all of currency will become worthless because humanity will be badly affected.

Ethereum is already a good replacement for bitcoin so it is really not a worry if bitcoin will be left behind. Right now, we are investing on other coins so that we can have some other source of profits when bitcoin is not in a good move or not in a bull run. That's a good example that there are also cryptocurrency that is good to invest as an asset not only bitcoin.

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