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There is no signs that Bitcoin will slow down!
Um. Hate to tell you, but there usually aren't. Bitcoin just decelerates faster than that dude who crashed straight into a side wall at 200mph at the racetrack in Indiana. I also hate to tell you that buying bitcoin on credit or margin or with leverage is what idiots did back in 2017 when prices looked like they were only going up. It's a complete newbie move, OP. And it's how people get burned in a bull market--the trick is to buy LOW, sell high. Where does bitcoin appear to be right now in that equation, eh?
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December 15, 2020, 12:31:45 AM |
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Best advice open business take a loan 100% Keep 50% cash invest the other 50% If the things go bad file a Bankcruptcy!! If you could get more people in company more liability If the Lender will try to sue you for criminal allegation you can show the bitcoin transaction and you can show that you did invested to third party get some good lawyer by your side you are correct legally Things go good you good ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) its style how donald Trump kind of business people does it... And you Winner But anyways there is a lot cheap Central money always good time to invest in risk assets when the money is cheap and all most free to borrow. Its not that Bitcoin will be good or Gold good its just the money how much money out there no matter how much we like gold or bitcoin if we are Short of money the risk assets prices will fall down so its a economics A B C
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December 15, 2020, 12:43:33 AM |
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There is no signs that Bitcoin will slow down! The risk/ratio reward telling that If the loans are cheap with low% its good to invest in risk assets like Gold btc and even property. Even better If you can do day trading swing or intra day even you make just 1-3% daily. If you have job and income and money to borrow its cheap now its not bad at all Good luck with your intraday trading. At 3% per day, you'll be getting nearly 50,000x your investment in a year's time. Don't forget to call me when you're rich ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Seriously, I have not heard a worse idea - to lever up on your own financial situation in a turbulent time in order to do intraday trading for an extremely volatile instrument. Yes, loans are cheap right now in most parts of the world. But that does not justify the risks of short term volatility. In fact, I find that most people I know who trade with borrowed money are more likely to exit a position suboptimally and enter into the market due to FOMO.
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December 15, 2020, 04:21:15 AM |
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Loan are not cheap, they’re only cheap to the privileged selected top elite, for peasant like us the loan is very expensive.
If a peasant is owning a piece of land, I think s/he can get the best interest at least in my country. The government provides more benefits to farmers than urban residents here.
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December 15, 2020, 04:51:44 AM |
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Loan are not cheap, they’re only cheap to the privileged selected top elite, for peasant like us the loan is very expensive.
If a peasant is owning a piece of land, I think s/he can get the best interest at least in my country. The government provides more benefits to farmers than urban residents here. Its next to impossible to own any piece of land for younger generation, unless they would start a war and land seizure by force, tbh all the land own by the recent inhabitants are either seized by force or they’re the native aborigines the descendants of the land ownership, for us, bitcoin is our “land” that can be truly owned, it’s fascinating to know bank would soon provide loan at bargain in exchcnage for bitcoin custodian as collateral.
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December 15, 2020, 05:47:58 AM |
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Why newbies so like idea of loans for investing? Its one of the worst decision that could be in investment
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December 15, 2020, 06:08:54 AM |
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This is very risky .. because the loan has a fixed interest every year, if bitcoin continues to increase it will definitely be profitable. but we don't know if one day bitcoin has decreased, this will make you default on the loan if this happens.
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December 15, 2020, 07:57:10 AM |
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I think someone who gets a loan to invest, especially in crypto, then he will feel chased by the shadow of the debt. So that one becomes out of focus on trading. Because even though the market is supporting and profiting, but one day the market will act otherwise. One becomes always hoping the market will always be good and give an advantage. Because we must have to repay those loans. But we know that the crypto market is not as easy as what one has in mind. It is difficult to prove that it can be rich with the proceeds of loans in investing.
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December 15, 2020, 08:56:22 AM |
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Crypto as many people have said is high risk investment and this "title" is there for reason, only invest what you can afford to lose.
It is much better to invest on bitcoin when you have money on your own because I don't think that investing a loan is a good thing to do. High risk means high reward so it is much better to work first and earn money before you invest. Cryptocurrency is volatile and you need to spend a lot of time and study the market when you want to grow your assets. But if you are really eager to use loan for a bitcoin investment then its your choice, just make sure that you will recover and pay your loans in a proper time and make profits.
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December 15, 2020, 10:37:39 AM |
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It is much higher risk at this time to take a loan and invest in btc where the prices could move anyways, and if it falls then you end up in huge debt and other is your investment also fall and end up making lose. There is no 100% that it could move above 20k or not so much risky and would not invest taking via loan.
I agree with you. In the past 8 was always to risk averse to invest on borrowed money. Even though interest rates seem fairly low at the moment, I am too afraid of losing money and being unable to repay the debt. Investing loan can be very risky because we could lose the money twice. Once when the asset tanks and a second time when we have to repay the loan.
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December 15, 2020, 03:21:13 PM |
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There is no signs that Bitcoin will slow down! The risk/ratio reward telling that If the loans are cheap with low% its good to invest in risk assets like Gold btc and even property. Even better If you can do day trading swing or intra day even you make just 1-3% daily. If you have job and income and money to borrow its cheap now its not bad at all It is still not advisable to take out loans and invest in bitcoin and other cryptocurrency. Loans have due dates and interest that you need to pay on time. What if you could not pay your due date because the value of digital currency you invested suddenly dropped and you could not withdraw your funds because you would lose money? Always remember, Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency are so volatile that's why as much as you can, avoid taking loan and use it to invest in crypto.
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December 15, 2020, 04:22:40 PM |
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Taking a loan to make an investment in btc. So much risk involved first off banks haven't grabbed the idea of crypto because it is decentralized and is not controlled by the government. The crypto market is very volatile and can pump or dump at anytime. Investing in crypto for quick profits is definitely a wrong attitude.
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December 15, 2020, 06:15:58 PM |
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There is no signs that Bitcoin will slow down! The risk/ratio reward telling that If the loans are cheap with low% its good to invest in risk assets like Gold btc and even property. Even better If you can do day trading swing or intra day even you make just 1-3% daily. If you have job and income and money to borrow its cheap now its not bad at all This is a surefire way to get yourself in financial trouble. There's no such thing as a sure bet, and people thinking there is is what gets them into trouble. Thinking they've found a sure bet and then taking out a loan to chase their "sure bet" compounds the risk and the potential trouble even faster. Remember: having zero dollars isn't what causes bankruptcies for individuals or businesses, having debts they can't pay is the cause.
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December 15, 2020, 06:20:05 PM |
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And what can Go wrong? Its just money If I borrow from bank its created out of nothing so If I loose it then it was just bad business. Nothing personal just business. But the rewards will be so great!! And banks now giving out nice money
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December 16, 2020, 08:04:14 AM |
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Its next to impossible to own any piece of land for younger generation, unless they would start a war and land seizure by force, tbh all the land own by the recent inhabitants are either seized by force or they’re the native aborigines the descendants of the land ownership As long as you have enough money to buy, you can own it - at least this is the case where I live. Earlier, only native farmers and their generations could only buy land but it has been removed now. Yes, you are right about neighboring forces, but it won't be forever. As you will be owning a piece of paper claiming you are the sole owner of the land, none can force you to move. However, the laws vary from one country to another, I believe.
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December 16, 2020, 09:40:50 AM |
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Although we hope that Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will actively grow in price in the coming year, I would not advise taking loans and credits to buy cryptocurrencies. Loans are usually issued against the security of movable and immovable property, they must be repaid regularly. However, cryptocurrencies cannot always provide regular predictable profits. There is also a significant risk of losing your investment. Even on this forum, some wrote that they had big losses from the invested credit money in the cryptocurrency.
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December 16, 2020, 11:15:49 AM |
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I guess some people mistake investment and business. Normally if you have a business and you want to get it bigger you can get a loan, obviously it is still quite risky, you are taking out a loan and if your business is not doing well you are going to screw up big time and crash.
I know someone who had 1 million dollar loan from bank to renovate the business just before the pandemic, he says it was both good and bad, it was good because nobody else was making money neither so they didn't lose customers for down time, he was scared about that at most, but it is obviously bad because the small part that works that he intended to keep the costs low became useless, so he lost more than he assumed but he started to make everything back and then some after it was over.
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December 16, 2020, 11:17:01 AM |
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There is no signs that Bitcoin will slow down! The risk/ratio reward telling that If the loans are cheap with low% its good to invest in risk assets like Gold btc and even property. Even better If you can do day trading swing or intra day even you make just 1-3% daily. If you have job and income and money to borrow its cheap now its not bad at all it is not wise move to loan money just to invest it into cryptocurrencies most of people are luck in knowledge on how really cryptocurrencies work not because something good in their eye their going to follow them without any knowledge people should be realistic now and be a good investors not only thinking about on how they can easily gain profit but to think about their future, how if suddenly all crypto go down? and people will be in grave debt for sure. Trading can be a beneficial when you knew what you are doing because we always learn from our mistake.
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December 16, 2020, 11:45:48 AM |
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There is no signs that Bitcoin will slow down! The risk/ratio reward telling that If the loans are cheap with low% its good to invest in risk assets like Gold btc and even property. Even better If you can do day trading swing or intra day even you make just 1-3% daily. If you have job and income and money to borrow its cheap now its not bad at all it is not wise move to loan money just to invest it into cryptocurrencies most of people are luck in knowledge on how really cryptocurrencies work not because something good in their eye their going to follow them without any knowledge people should be realistic now and be a good investors not only thinking about on how they can easily gain profit but to think about their future, how if suddenly all crypto go down? and people will be in grave debt for sure. Trading can be a beneficial when you knew what you are doing because we always learn from our mistake. Stay poor Please
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December 16, 2020, 01:50:45 PM |
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You should not risk taking a loan to be used for investing in bitcoin. The bitcoin price will always fluctuate, and you will not know when the price is up and down and how long the price can increase back after it's down. Even if you know or can predict the price moves, it does not mean you can use the money from loans to invest in bitcoin. But I suggest you learn about trading and use the money you can afford to lose, so you do not risk paying the money back.
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