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There’s no way to stay green because the market is too volatile, well not unless you’re a great trader and have some proof for that then I don’t have any question for that. Trader should focus to hit their target profit even if they lose some money because that is normal and its part of the game, so don’t be afraid to lose money.
You can technically "stay in green" if you are an investor. If you invest for the long term there is a big part of the period where you will have some losses and some profits here and there, the price will change and that will make your unrealized profits or losses move, but in the end you will always stay in the green after a while. Of course if you imagine someone buying from 27k you will think that it will take a long time before someone is never in red, that is true right? I mean if I buy from 27k I will have times when I am in red, that is no doubt. However what if I bought at 2k? That would mean I would have been not in red for over 4 years now give or take right? Or at least over 3 years for sure. This is why I suggest long term investing, because it may take years to get there but after few years you will become "never in red" forever.
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December 30, 2020, 04:43:22 AM |
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There’s no way to stay green because the market is too volatile, well not unless you’re a great trader and have some proof for that then I don’t have any question for that. Trader should focus to hit their target profit even if they lose some money because that is normal and its part of the game, so don’t be afraid to lose money.
You can stay green even with how volatile the market is. It will just all come down on you manage your risk and funds. I know some traders who earn their living trading full time some of them even quit their job because with trading they can earn more than they earn in 9-5 jobs. With the proper setup of trading plan, risk management, and strategy, you can stay green in trading it sounds easy but trust me it's not.
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December 30, 2020, 04:53:55 AM |
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As a trader we need to be patience, this is very important actually, because in trading there is always risk involved. Meaning, don't trade what you can't afford to lose. So, staying in green will give us a sure profit at most of the time. But if you are going to implement the scalping method it will only lead you into a high risk only for sure.
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always get profit ?, of course a trader must analyze correctly, be it analyzing the market or analyzing the price itself, I guarantee that no trader can always be in the green zone continuously, there will be a red road that is always waiting for the trader, even though he is an expert, I am sure the lose will always be part of it.
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December 30, 2020, 04:59:26 PM |
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always get profit ?, of course a trader must analyze correctly, be it analyzing the market or analyzing the price itself, I guarantee that no trader can always be in the green zone continuously, there will be a red road that is always waiting for the trader, even though he is an expert, I am sure the lose will always be part of it.
There are ways to be "always in green" if you are rich enough, obviously it will still be never always green because this is trading and there are always ups and downs but if you are quick enough you can minimize your losses as much as you can. How? Well if you are rich enough, buy 1 million dollars worth of bitcoin from this price, the price drops? Buy 10 million dollars more of it, price drops again? Buy 30 million dollars worth of it. Basically you keep buying the lower it goes in magnitudes of what you initially invested, that way you will get closer (very) to what it is at that moment, and with just one increase you will be in profit. This is almost guaranteed way to keep in profit, but it has one requirement, you can't do this with things that will crash, if you do that you will lose all your money very quickly when it becomes zero, so you need to do this on things like bitcoin or ethereum, and not some brand new defi project.
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December 31, 2020, 07:45:45 AM |
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Earning 10k is a lot more than losing 10 dollars and gaining a lesson, because a lesson you gain from 10 dollar lost will not be much, plus losing 10k would mean you would learn a huge lesson but you are down 10k dollars which is a lot. Hence I think everyone should aim at profit in the long run, even if not for each trade.
Well the best thing about kind of conversation is that idea from different perspective are been discussed and the best is agreed on. All you have said isn't wrong so as mine. It's better to profit then to lose but do understand that the profit don't come always. No trader can be in profit from the very beginning of their trade to date. At some point they must have lose either as a result of their ignorance or the market just crashing unexpectedly like the Covid19 crashed that occured in march this year. Some situation might occurs that their profits are huge to cover their losses although that doesn't mean they won't have some negative trade. The ideas behind my logic is losses make you set up review your strategy and work on them while profits make you feel too confident. We have scenario where traders become too confident as a result of their simultaneous profits from trade to trade and if precautions aren't taken they make huge mistakes that cost them almost all their profits it majority due to a sudden change in market.
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December 31, 2020, 08:12:42 AM |
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always get profit ?, of course a trader must analyze correctly, be it analyzing the market or analyzing the price itself, I guarantee that no trader can always be in the green zone continuously, there will be a red road that is always waiting for the trader, even though he is an expert, I am sure the lose will always be part of it.
Yes, it is difficult to always get a green, even if that trader is a pro trader. The market is unpredictable, and that can make us feel difficult to analyze the market moves. We need to know when we should leave the market in a profit position, and do not force ourselves to continue trading if we think that it is difficult to enter the market. It is better to take a break for a while than to continue trading if the situation is not right.
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December 31, 2020, 08:50:30 AM |
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All traders definitely have a desire to be in the green zone, but unfortunately reality says differently. Since crypto trading cannot always be in the green zone, sometimes traders have to feel in the red zone too. And there is nothing wrong with it, that is normal thing experienced by all traders. The most important thing is that the strategy we use is effective and can generate profits that can be said to be successful. So every trader has to practice a lot in order to improve their trading skills, that way when in the green zone or red zone we can still make the right decisions.
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I really think this step is very important but something that a lot of traders does not do - because it is difficult to do in Google Sheets or Excel.
Yeah, there are lots of people joining trading everyday and there are also so many people who are quitting because they don’t get a thing about trading, it’s a difficult thing for anyone to do. But, it’s always good that you revisit your trade history and check the mistakes you have made, this will help you to know what and where to take corrections so that you won’t be repeating that same mistake over and over again, instead you will realize the best way to handle it and place better trades and make profit. It’s all with time, it’s not something you will learn immediately. And about having a strategy that one can use for trading, a lot of people have mentioned this here a lot of times.
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December 31, 2020, 05:26:38 PM |
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As a trader we need to be patience, this is very important actually, because in trading there is always risk involved. Meaning, don't trade what you can't afford to lose. So, staying in green will give us a sure profit at most of the time. But if you are going to implement the scalping method it will only lead you into a high risk only for sure.
Having a good trading system is better than to say what you can afford to lose, yeah I think that the last strategy that we should have. If you have trading system you will hava your own rule to entry in every marker that will you trade. It means, if your prediction have 70% to getting profit then you will entry to the market but otherwise if you just have 10% to get profit and the rest you have incredulity then you must pass through the market and comeback when you have a 70% chance. By doing that, you will maximize your profit and minimize the slightest loss that you will face.
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The problem with tradingWhen I started day trading crypto 3 years ago, I didn't have a plan with my trading. I just thought "if my win rate is high, I will make money gogogo". I think everyone is missing a very important step if you just do some TA and start trading. "You need a strategy"Everyone told me from day 1 "You need a strategy" - but I simply didn't know how to make one. After losing 90% of my account balance, I took a break from trading for 6 months. Then I came back with a new mindset and reviewed some of my past trades. I had no planWhen I look back at it, it was actually crazy how much I cowboyed my trading. Sometimes, I made +1%, sometimes -3%, sometimes +5%, sometimes +10%, sometimes -7%. There was no structure and I had no idea what results I could expect. Since I had no forecast of my results, it was difficult to follow my rules. I simply lacked motivation to follow my rules. I think this is very common. What worked for meWhat made me go from a bad trader to a consistent profitable trader, was ACTUALLY using a strategy. Not only trading based on a vague strategy. NOW - How the heck should I form a reliable strategy that works?I opened up a Google Sheet and started writing formulas to estimate my earnings and losses from trading, based on different win rate, starting balance, leverage etc. It helped me a lot but it was so tedious to change the strategy in Google Sheets I had enough. So I started to Google if there was a better way to do this. I found nothing. The only thing I found was a Forex Profit Calculator, but I wanted one for crypto. Winrate.io was my game changerSo I made my own one. I created a website called winrate.io where you can test your current strategy or create a new strategy if your current one doesn't work. This was a game changer for my own trading - Since I realized that my current strategy was not efficient at all and I was trading on an exchange with crazy fees. I sat down for 1-2 hours and tried different setups, and found out that I just had to make a few tweaks to make my current strategy work a lot better. This is free and it will not ask for anything from you - not even your email. This is simply my Google Sheet in a more user friendly version that I personally use to improve my trading. My friends also use it regularly. So I wanted to share it with you as well. Hope thats OK! https://i.imgur.com/x9uiVMi.pngI really think this step is very important but something that a lot of traders does not do - because it is difficult to do in Google Sheets or Excel. Please let me know if you think this is helpful and if you have any questions. All the best, Joel I think is is a wrong question, because the best traders in the world not all the time green, Secret of their trading - they very quick cut losses, so they have a lot of trades with little losses like - 0,1%, 0,2%, 0,5%. The idea is: - You cut the loss quickly and do not let it shrink, triple, etc. - To sit out a loss and miss opportunities to acquire something that does not fall, for example. And than you catch really good position like buying BTC, at this year maybe at points of 5500$ and 12300$, you almly remain in growing profits all the time while the growing trend is on your side. That`s why top traders can loose money for months doing quick losses cut, to catch the trend, that give you money for next years.
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Stay in green is not so easy as say. In the crypto world, there are uncertainty spreads everywhere. So if you want to keep safe yourself, you must learn, practice, analysis about the market. You have to able to measurement risk, portfolio, and market stability. If you want to avoid red you should increase the capability to understand market strategy and requirements.
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"You need a strategy" Often one given "strategy" works very well at ...lets say.... 15 time-frame, but if you run that same very "strategy" at 5M .. nah .. after historical backrest .. ask yourself the following question: why not? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) A good strategy should work under any market conditions, there is no reason why a strategy that works in a 15 minutes time frame should not work if you used a weekly time frame, but if for some reason you find out that it does not when you backtest your strategy then that means there is something wrong with your strategy and you need to adjust it so it does, this is also true for the assets that you trade, if your strategy works in bitcoin but it does not work on stocks then there is definitely something wrong with it.
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Staying on the green is not always effective because if you didn't make any good analysis and study the market, there are chances you might end up in the red lines. It is the reason why you should be making a good strategy, so you could deal with the market and able to control your emotions without staying in the green.
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All traders definitely have a desire to be in the green zone, but unfortunately reality says differently. Since crypto trading cannot always be in the green zone, sometimes traders have to feel in the red zone too. And there is nothing wrong with it, that is normal thing experienced by all traders. The most important thing is that the strategy we use is effective and can generate profits that can be said to be successful. So every trader has to practice a lot in order to improve their trading skills, that way when in the green zone or red zone we can still make the right decisions.
Green and Red makes me feel like we are discussing gambling but not trading. Often gamblers are too worried about their green and red streaks as green indicates wins. There is no problem in closing some trades in loss as long as you know the decision you made was backed by facts and not emotions and there was some data that you rely on to make such decisions. I was holding some UNI coins and after seeing no positive movement for sometime I sold them and now recently I checked their price and I was upset because it recovered decently but does that mean I made a mistake? NO! Because the decision I made was after my due diligence and now if it increases I have all the right to be upset but I won't call it a mistake so you have to make some room for losses in trading and avoid trading having a gamblers mindset.
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Even a professional trader will not always be in the green zone, he must have also been in the red zone. Predictions that have been made sometimes don't work and there are some predictions that are inaccurate. This all also relates to the trading strategy and analysis used. to be able to continue in the green zone must adhere to the strategy that has been made. there are times when the market is bullish and when the market is bearish.
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I make some long memories tokens that have some extraordinary execution every day. In any case, for reasons unknown a few brokers consistently ensure that they remain in tie toward the finish of their exchanges to stay away from such misfortune mark that couldn't be seen on their dynamic time. Numerous dealers lose on the grounds that they pursue cash, while they fail to remember that exchanging requires persistence and brokers who need snappy returns and get rich short-term need to reevaluate their exchanging.
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January 06, 2021, 05:22:39 PM |
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Even a professional trader will not always be in the green zone, he must have also been in the red zone. Predictions that have been made sometimes don't work and there are some predictions that are inaccurate. This all also relates to the trading strategy and analysis used. to be able to continue in the green zone must adhere to the strategy that has been made. there are times when the market is bullish and when the market is bearish.
As simple as that, it is obvious that any trader always wants to earn money and be in positive territory but there are simply many circumstances that could lead you to be on the negative when it comes to your trades and there is no reason to panic, as long as you are following a strategy that is profitable then over the long term you should be fine, however under those circumstances many newbies panic and they end up making mistakes that aggravate their problem many times making impossible for them to ever be on the green again.
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January 06, 2021, 05:51:05 PM |
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Even a professional trader will not always be in the green zone, he must have also been in the red zone. Predictions that have been made sometimes don't work and there are some predictions that are inaccurate. This all also relates to the trading strategy and analysis used. to be able to continue in the green zone must adhere to the strategy that has been made. there are times when the market is bullish and when the market is bearish.
There's no such thing about perfect trader and losses is an inevitable thing but those pro's could able to handle it out to be in greens or in profits in spite of commiting some losing trades. Good capital handling and good decision making skills will really be the key on sustaining yourself into a market which is really very unpredictable.If you dont have these kind of qualities then you would really be having a hard time on dealing with this one.Staying on green or making yourself profitability is one of the most common target. Even a professional trader will not always be in the green zone, he must have also been in the red zone. Predictions that have been made sometimes don't work and there are some predictions that are inaccurate. This all also relates to the trading strategy and analysis used. to be able to continue in the green zone must adhere to the strategy that has been made. there are times when the market is bullish and when the market is bearish.
As simple as that, it is obvious that any trader always wants to earn money and be in positive territory but there are simply many circumstances that could lead you to be on the negative when it comes to your trades and there is no reason to panic, as long as you are following a strategy that is profitable then over the long term you should be fine, however under those circumstances many newbies panic and they end up making mistakes that aggravate their problem many times making impossible for them to ever be on the green again. Your panic will really be just wiped out when you had already gained enough experience, if you dont then you would really be experiencing lots of situations where your emotions will be mainly affected which would result into bad decisions. Trading is a long process and shouldnt really be hurried out and if you are really that too impatient then expect you will really be comitting mistakes.
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I haven't checked your website but it seems more like a promotion and advertisement which I often see on websites like "I was jobless until I found this website and I am billionaire now".
Anyways since we are discussing some good points, I want to tell you that strategy and such terms are easy to use but impossible to understand because if there existed any such strategy which we could implement and earn money from trading without risk, then all the exchanges would have been either closed or we all would be rich by now.
There exists no strategy from what I have learned and all you need to do is find which asset is valuable in the current time and invest in that. For bitcoin price trading you have to be sharp and make use of the small swings.
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