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January 10, 2021, 10:16:49 PM
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Third, letting aside the video proof that has recently showed up (how the hell would you debate that one is beyond my understanding), I'm pretty sure I also have nice proof here on my thread. And the fucking scammer of course couldn't give a remotely good reply to what I presented.
This is the price you pay for creating fake multiple scam accusation using sock puppet accounts with no hard evidence. Eventually no one will even care about following up or believing you. suck it up.

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January 11, 2021, 09:19:26 PM
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Third, letting aside the video proof that has recently showed up (how the hell would you debate that one is beyond my understanding), I'm pretty sure I also have nice proof here on my thread. And the fucking scammer of course couldn't give a remotely good reply to what I presented.
This is the price you pay for creating fake multiple scam accusation using sock puppet accounts with no hard evidence. Eventually no one will even care about following up or believing you. suck it up.

This is insane. I swear I have never experienced something like this in the almost 20 years I'm being part of internet communities. Despite clear evidences and objectively logical arguments (with absolutely no valid counter-argument from the other side), there is a very compact wall that simply doesn't want to be breached (again, choosing to accuse one party, me, instead of the other, for no apparent reason).

At this point it is 100% clear that there is definitely something sneaky behind all of this. All these people determined to defend that scammer (while he doesn't even bother to reply or try to defend himself) must have their own interests in this, or (as they accuse me lol) they are in some way alts or connected to him. There is no way one could objectively and logically explain otherwise. No logical way at all. And this shit must be nicely remunerative for all the thieves involved.

Do what you want to do guys, I 100% know that I won't ever see my hard earned money now, I'm not that stupid. So at this point I'm only losing time here.

But one thing is for sure, something really shady is going on here and I won't make the mistake of making trades here again, and if I really, really, really have to, I'll make sure to use middleman as the very minimum (which I 100% should have done in the first place, that's the only fault I have). I strongly suggest that everyone does the same.

To anyone who happens to read this: contrary to all these people spitting sentences out of nowhere, I'm real and ready to prove my story and anything you need to believe and be careful of this shit. Feel free to get in touch with me. One thing is to lose a bit of money because of some lowlife scum, another is to be taken as a fraudster in addition to the damage received. That latter is absolutely not acceptable for me and I won't tolerate it.
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January 13, 2021, 11:20:16 PM
Last edit: January 14, 2021, 12:01:14 AM by adriankendrick
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He also scammed me. I lost 110€.  Sad
You can see our chat here: https://imgur.com/a/xJBZhEx

He changed the message with the address after I sent him the money (you can see this by the pencil besides the message).
His excuse that he sent me a bitcoin address is totally wrong. I know how a bitcoin address looks like and my wallet wouldn't let me send eth to a btc address.

Please flag him. He will scam a lot more people if you don't do it.

@MODS: Could you at least convert his threads to non self managed ones? So we can warn people from him.
He always locks his threads, so no one can write something bad about him.
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January 14, 2021, 12:09:16 AM
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He also scammed me. I lost 110€.  Sad
You can see our chat here: https://imgur.com/a/xJBZhEx

He changed the message with the address after I sent him the money (you can see this by the pencil besides the message).
His excuse that he sent me a bitcoin address is totally wrong. I know how a bitcoin address looks like and my wallet wouldn't let me send eth to a btc address.

Please flag him. He will scam a lot more people if you don't do it.

@MODS: Could you at least convert his threads to non self managed ones? So we can warn people from him.
No he always locks his threads, so no one can write something bad about him.

Did this happen today, or yesterday?

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January 14, 2021, 05:28:30 AM
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Did this happen today, or yesterday?

This happend yesterday, on the 13th of January.
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January 14, 2021, 05:50:31 AM
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Did this happen today, or yesterday?

This happened yesterday, on the 13th of January.
Did you confirm the address you copied from skype before hitting send. Just throwing this out there to doublecheck your system to ensure you didn't pick up any malware that replaces addresses, always best practice.

In the future a good practice is to copy the message and respond to them to confirm the address, this way you can definitely prove that you sent to the right address and no one can edit your reply.

Can you post your txid? At least this way some people can try and piece things together if there is anything to find and prove.


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January 14, 2021, 06:28:45 AM
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Sick, obvious ripper keeps doing it by next level tactics. God bless the DT members who is defending him, I hope you all will get your karma one day.
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January 14, 2021, 10:46:30 AM
Last edit: January 14, 2021, 10:58:14 AM by adriankendrick
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Did you confirm the address you copied from skype before hitting send. Just throwing this out there to doublecheck your system to ensure you didn't pick up any malware that replaces addresses, always best practice.

In the future a good practice is to copy the message and respond to them to confirm the address, this way you can definitely prove that you sent to the right address and no one can edit your reply.

Can you post your txid? At least this way some people can try and piece things together if there is anything to find and prove.

Yes, I did confirm the address before sending, because I sent me the address and amount per telegram so I can send the ETH via my phone wallet and then checked it again so I didn't miss a character during copying.
Proof: https://imgur.com/a/0RTIHQb

In the future I know now that I always use an escrow service when I pay that much money. Cheesy

TXID: 0x3139029d8b651a039b3a3a3609baf7b8d71767db
Transcation: https://etherscan.io/tx/0x1f1c0da51240d750833f2f97c03496b4ee1ce3d1970a23340c96d1055d9dda69

I also did some research on skype and I found out that you can check when a message was edited, by downloading your messages from here:
https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34894/how-do-i-export-my-skype-files-and-chat-history

Oh, what a surprise I can confirm now, that he changed the message afterwards...

Code:
{
    "id": "1610573352373",
    "displayName": "vareole",
    "originalarrivaltime": "2021-01-13T21:29:07.76Z",
    "messagetype": "RichText",
    "version": 1610573785549.0,
    "content": "0x449604b95d89EE448C40379c9aED978F20219008<e_m a=\"live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750\" ts_ms=\"1610573347760\" ts=\"1610573347\" t=\"61\"></e_m>",
    "conversationid": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "from": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "properties": {
        "edittime": "1610573785033"
    },
    "amsreferences": null
},
{
    "id": "1610573785299",
    "displayName": "vareole",
    "originalarrivaltime": "2021-01-13T21:36:25.299Z",
    "messagetype": "RichText",
    "version": 1610573785299.0,
    "content": "0x449604b95d89EE448C40379c9aED978F20219008<e_m a=\"live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750\" ts_ms=\"1610573347760\" ts=\"1610573347\" t=\"61\"></e_m>",
    "conversationid": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "from": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "properties": {
        "isserversidegenerated": "True"
    },
    "amsreferences": null
},
So there you can see he sent the original message at 21:29 and changed it at 21:36.

If we look now when I sent my message "Is sending"...
Code:
{
    "id": "1610573692204",
    "displayName": null,
    "originalarrivaltime": "2021-01-13T21:34:52.091Z",
    "messagetype": "RichText",
    "version": 1610573692204.0,
    "content": "Is sending",
    "conversationid": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "from": "8:live:.cid.77940be53fdf7a5e",
    "properties": null,
    "amsreferences": null
},
.. you can see that I sent it at 21:34. That means he changed his message afterwards.

I can send a moderator the skype download link to proof that I've not changed something, but I will not publish this here publicly because there are all of the other messages in there too.

EDIT: I saw now that I can't send the skype download link because you have to be logged in for that. But I will find another way to get the file to the moderator with a proof that I didn't change anything.
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January 14, 2021, 11:11:58 AM
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Hi adriankendrick, I am really sorry to hear about your experience. But many hanks for sharing it, at least all the people defending that prick will need to have a hard look at their beliefs now. Unless they have their own interests in doing so, of course, which is not hard to think as there already was pretty strong evidence before this too (videos, reports).

@adriankendrick , I know it's a long stretch, but any chance you have more info on this bastard? Let me know if you want to get in touch with me privately so we can talk and share info on this piece shit. This offer is obviously open to anyone else who can in some way verify was scammed by this fucker. Let's make this vermin's life as hard as it needs to be until karma takes care of him and anyone involved.
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January 14, 2021, 01:56:44 PM
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Did you confirm the address you copied from skype before hitting send. Just throwing this out there to doublecheck your system to ensure you didn't pick up any malware that replaces addresses, always best practice.

In the future a good practice is to copy the message and respond to them to confirm the address, this way you can definitely prove that you sent to the right address and no one can edit your reply.

Can you post your txid? At least this way some people can try and piece things together if there is anything to find and prove.

Yes, I did confirm the address before sending, because I sent me the address and amount per telegram so I can send the ETH via my phone wallet and then checked it again so I didn't miss a character during copying.
Proof: https://imgur.com/a/0RTIHQb

In the future I know now that I always use an escrow service when I pay that much money. Cheesy

TXID: 0x3139029d8b651a039b3a3a3609baf7b8d71767db
Transcation: https://etherscan.io/tx/0x1f1c0da51240d750833f2f97c03496b4ee1ce3d1970a23340c96d1055d9dda69

I also did some research on skype and I found out that you can check when a message was edited, by downloading your messages from here:
https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34894/how-do-i-export-my-skype-files-and-chat-history

Oh, what a surprise I can confirm now, that he changed the message afterwards...

Code:
{
    "id": "1610573352373",
    "displayName": "vareole",
    "originalarrivaltime": "2021-01-13T21:29:07.76Z",
    "messagetype": "RichText",
    "version": 1610573785549.0,
    "content": "0x449604b95d89EE448C40379c9aED978F20219008<e_m a=\"live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750\" ts_ms=\"1610573347760\" ts=\"1610573347\" t=\"61\"></e_m>",
    "conversationid": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "from": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "properties": {
        "edittime": "1610573785033"
    },
    "amsreferences": null
},
{
    "id": "1610573785299",
    "displayName": "vareole",
    "originalarrivaltime": "2021-01-13T21:36:25.299Z",
    "messagetype": "RichText",
    "version": 1610573785299.0,
    "content": "0x449604b95d89EE448C40379c9aED978F20219008<e_m a=\"live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750\" ts_ms=\"1610573347760\" ts=\"1610573347\" t=\"61\"></e_m>",
    "conversationid": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "from": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "properties": {
        "isserversidegenerated": "True"
    },
    "amsreferences": null
},
So there you can see he sent the original message at 21:29 and changed it at 21:36.

If we look now when I sent my message "Is sending"...
Code:
{
    "id": "1610573692204",
    "displayName": null,
    "originalarrivaltime": "2021-01-13T21:34:52.091Z",
    "messagetype": "RichText",
    "version": 1610573692204.0,
    "content": "Is sending",
    "conversationid": "8:live:.cid.20c7fbbb89171750",
    "from": "8:live:.cid.77940be53fdf7a5e",
    "properties": null,
    "amsreferences": null
},
.. you can see that I sent it at 21:34. That means he changed his message afterwards.

I can send a moderator the skype download link to proof that I've not changed something, but I will not publish this here publicly because there are all of the other messages in there too.

EDIT: I saw now that I can't send the skype download link because you have to be logged in for that. But I will find another way to get the file to the moderator with a proof that I didn't change anything.

I suggest you to open new thread with all the evidences and correct form of report, otherwise these "DT king members" do not look into the case and keep defending the Vareole on his scam journey.
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January 14, 2021, 04:25:26 PM
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I suggest you to open new thread with all the evidences and correct form of report, otherwise these "DT king members" do not look into the case and keep defending the Vareole on his scam journey.

He did that, and I agree it absolutely was the right thing to do.

But what will it change? You also saw how these people react to threads like mine or proofs like the video one that recently came up, which was the exact same way I was scammed by vareole the way.

Defending one party like that, despite countless reports and proof, with no apparent reason makes it clear that there actually must be a reason indeed... That's all I can come up with using a logical and impartial way of thinking. It's both shady and a bit scary to be honest.
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