Bitcoin Forum
May 09, 2024, 02:46:19 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1] 2 3 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Telegram Groups?  (Read 496 times)
as.exchange (OP)
Copper Member
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 140
Merit: 51

as.exchange


View Profile WWW
December 16, 2020, 03:33:14 PM
Merited by The Cryptovator (3)
 #1

Hello guys. After checking for quite long time, I see there's no single reliable Telegram ENG group?

Let me clarify what I mean - I saw hundreds of ICO, bounty, investment, signals, whales, P&D, etc. groups - 100% of them are scam, don't have anything useful or created just to get advertisement payments by reposting news, nothing more. In Russian it's almost same, but not 100% - 10% of groups are really good, professional, authors do very good analysis (NEVER SELL SIGNALS - if you see someone selling signals - ITS SCAM), either from fundamental side, from technical side, or from other aspects. Is it really so bad and trashy in ENG TG space?

Happy to see recommendations, unless its about bounties, DeFi, HYIP, ponzi, signals, ICOs...

1715222779
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715222779

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715222779
Reply with quote  #2

1715222779
Report to moderator
1715222779
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715222779

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715222779
Reply with quote  #2

1715222779
Report to moderator
The trust scores you see are subjective; they will change depending on who you have in your trust list.
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
Roam Coin
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 14
Merit: 0


View Profile
December 16, 2020, 03:45:33 PM
 #2

Hello guys. After checking for quite long time, I see there's no single reliable Telegram ENG group?

Let me clarify what I mean - I saw hundreds of ICO, bounty, investment, signals, whales, P&D, etc. groups - 100% of them are scam, don't have anything useful or created just to get advertisement payments by reposting news, nothing more. In Russian it's almost same, but not 100% - 10% of groups are really good, professional, authors do very good analysis (NEVER SELL SIGNALS - if you see someone selling signals - ITS SCAM), either from fundamental side, from technical side, or from other aspects. Is it really so bad and trashy in ENG TG space?

Happy to see recommendations, unless its about bounties, DeFi, HYIP, ponzi, signals, ICOs...

CWN Crypto Chat
https://t.me/CryptoChatCWN

Good group, everyone is active and pretty much lets you know through a network of people the top gainers / losers though they primarily focus on BTC and ETH, with the odd occasion of other coins. Only downside, constant flow of messages, meaning if you don't check it within a couple of hours you do build up thousands of unread messages.
as.exchange (OP)
Copper Member
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 140
Merit: 51

as.exchange


View Profile WWW
December 16, 2020, 03:57:12 PM
 #3

CWN Crypto Chat
https://t.me/CryptoChatCWN

Good group, everyone is active and pretty much lets you know through a network of people the top gainers / losers though they primarily focus on BTC and ETH, with the odd occasion of other coins. Only downside, constant flow of messages, meaning if you don't check it within a couple of hours you do build up thousands of unread messages.

After checking the TG - there are 183k members of the group. In the past 3 days mostly 3 people talk with each other +1-2 occasionally send some message. You can also see continually decreasing number of subscribers. If you check the main channel with >500k followers you will see it's even worse. Furthermore, the analytical tool for channels clearly states about the channel "Channel suspected of using unfair promotion methods". On Twitter they have 49.7K followers, and 3-30 likes + 15 retweets. The website itself looks like aggregator of other news.

Based on the above you can draw your conclusions. But it's definitely not something I was looking for.

mk4
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2758
Merit: 3831


Paldo.io 🤖


View Profile
December 16, 2020, 04:09:13 PM
 #4

You're honestly mostly better off following reputable traders on Twitter instead. There's just something about Telegram groups that seems so scammy for me due to some groups being private. On Twitter on the other hand, you can easily get called out if you're obviously scamming or just attempting a pump&dump on a coin/token.

█▀▀▀











█▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
e
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
█████████████
████████████▄███
██▐███████▄█████▀
█████████▄████▀
███▐████▄███▀
████▐██████▀
█████▀█████
███████████▄
████████████▄
██▄█████▀█████▄
▄█████████▀█████▀
███████████▀██▀
████▀█████████
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
c.h.
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀█











▄▄▄█
▄██████▄▄▄
█████████████▄▄
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███░░█████████
███▌▐█████████
█████████████
███████████▀
██████████▀
████████▀
▀██▀▀
as.exchange (OP)
Copper Member
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 140
Merit: 51

as.exchange


View Profile WWW
December 16, 2020, 04:27:16 PM
 #5

You're honestly mostly better off following reputable traders on Twitter instead. There's just something about Telegram groups that seems so scammy for me due to some groups being private. On Twitter on the other hand, you can easily get called out if you're obviously scamming or just attempting a pump&dump on a coin/token.

Yes on Twitter there are indeed plenty of good and reliable people unlike Telegram. Just was wondering if ENG TG has anything useful at all, like there are very very few in Russian (I personally know only 2-4 max), but in ENG totally 0 Grin Probably you are right and it's better to totally ignore TG.

Roam Coin
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 14
Merit: 0


View Profile
December 16, 2020, 05:56:50 PM
 #6


I'd like to further state; I am in no way paid to promote them, it was the first group that came to mind, when recommending them. Would have to agree to the comment that stated Twitter!

Why not start your own TG group, and get people to be part of it? I'd join it!
hugeblack
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2506
Merit: 3647


Buy/Sell crypto at BestChange


View Profile WWW
December 16, 2020, 06:49:49 PM
 #7

You are in a forum that is a source for good quality discussions, so why do you want to search for a channel on Telegram? A lot of channels want to make profits, and thus you will find many people who talk to make their channels look great.

If you want a good channel, send a private message to the members you trust by paying them to join your channel, pay to them, and then you can add whoever you want to that channel.

.BEST..CHANGE.███████████████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
███████████████
..BUY/ SELL CRYPTO..
mk4
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2758
Merit: 3831


Paldo.io 🤖


View Profile
December 17, 2020, 12:15:32 AM
 #8

You are in a forum that is a source for good quality discussions, so why do you want to search for a channel on Telegram? A lot of channels want to make profits, and thus you will find many people who talk to make their channels look great.

To be fair, while we get decent threads on the Trading Discussion section from time to time, it's mostly those "what coin to buy" and basic beginner trading question threads, not technical analysis posts(which I think is that OP is looking for).

█▀▀▀











█▄▄▄
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
e
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
█████████████
████████████▄███
██▐███████▄█████▀
█████████▄████▀
███▐████▄███▀
████▐██████▀
█████▀█████
███████████▄
████████████▄
██▄█████▀█████▄
▄█████████▀█████▀
███████████▀██▀
████▀█████████
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
c.h.
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀▀█











▄▄▄█
▄██████▄▄▄
█████████████▄▄
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███░░█████████
███▌▐█████████
█████████████
███████████▀
██████████▀
████████▀
▀██▀▀
goinmerry
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2940
Merit: 1083


View Profile
December 17, 2020, 01:48:22 AM
Merited by The Cryptovator (1)
 #9

Happy to see recommendations, unless its about bounties, DeFi, HYIP, ponzi, signals, ICOs...

The closest ones that might be fit your criteria are the official Telegram group itself of some big trading platforms today.

Binance
https://t.me/BinanceExchange

Kucoin
https://t.me/Kucoin_Exchange

These are English Groups. Other languages are also available. Checking at these groups, you will see some "real traders" sharing ideas.
The Cryptovator
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2240
Merit: 2174


Need PR/CMC & CG? TG @The_Cryptovator


View Profile WWW
December 17, 2020, 07:08:53 AM
 #10

Second that what was said by @goinmerry, was on my mind actually when reading your post. There are a few groups where you would find a few constructive discussion. It's true sometimes scammers have been trying to post a few scam sites like Ponzi or whatever, but due to strong moderation, they fail to do that. Everyone knows Telegram has become a safe haven for scammers due to anonymous and encrypted communications. It's become easier to scam peoples and scammers getting advantage of that anonymity. Most spammers always add you to a new group unless you turn it off from privacy settings. So, be careful when you are in a telegram, you may follow a few reputed exchange or news source. But make sure you are not doing any financial deal there.

.BEST..CHANGE.███████████████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
███████████████
..BUY/ SELL CRYPTO..
as.exchange (OP)
Copper Member
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 140
Merit: 51

as.exchange


View Profile WWW
December 17, 2020, 09:12:40 AM
 #11

I'd like to further state; I am in no way paid to promote them, it was the first group that came to mind, when recommending them. Would have to agree to the comment that stated Twitter!

Why not start your own TG group, and get people to be part of it? I'd join it!

It's okay - from first look such group indeed might look decent, but after checking carefully you will find out that 99.9% of such groups are fake. And feel free to join ours, which is slowly growing - can chat there with our CEO directly Wink
https://t.me/exchange_as

(hope the post won't get removed for this, since the intention was not to advertise our group, but really to find other good ones)



You are in a forum that is a source for good quality discussions, so why do you want to search for a channel on Telegram? A lot of channels want to make profits, and thus you will find many people who talk to make their channels look great.

You are very correct - indeed here are the most constructive discussions. But what I meant is not to find group for discussion, but group with quality content. Like analytical things from some reputable and good trader / miner / or someone who knows what s/he is talking about and publishes good and quality content there. After asking some admins of Russian TG groups+channels (who operate the good ones), they also said there's nothing good in ENG, which is quite disappointing. Just for reference, I can mention 1 TG channel+group in ENG which is quite good from the requirements I provided (analytical, authentic, not scammer, not profiting from ads, knows what he is talking about, etc.) But not to advertise (and possibly get banned) - I can send you in DM if you want, just to share what kind of things I am looking for.

If you want a good channel, send a private message to the members you trust by paying them to join your channel, pay to them, and then you can add whoever you want to that channel.

Yes, will do so later probably, now might be not the best time to do it in full-scale yet Grin



To be fair, while we get decent threads on the Trading Discussion section from time to time, it's mostly those "what coin to buy" and basic beginner trading question threads, not technical analysis posts(which I think is that OP is looking for).

Yes, and on ENG TG even worse... scams/idiots/ponzi/spam/trash content/content for total beginners... which again is not really the case in RUS part of TG. That's why was wondering.



The closest ones that might be fit your criteria are the official Telegram group itself of some big trading platforms today.

Binance
https://t.me/BinanceExchange

Kucoin
https://t.me/Kucoin_Exchange

These are English Groups. Other languages are also available. Checking at these groups, you will see some "real traders" sharing ideas.

Yes, I know these ones, also for FTX, BitMEX, etc. - they do have some real and good ideas sometimes, but it's rather non-systematic.



Second that what was said by @goinmerry, was on my mind actually when reading your post. There are a few groups where you would find a few constructive discussion. It's true sometimes scammers have been trying to post a few scam sites like Ponzi or whatever, but due to strong moderation, they fail to do that. Everyone knows Telegram has become a safe haven for scammers due to anonymous and encrypted communications. It's become easier to scam peoples and scammers getting advantage of that anonymity. Most spammers always add you to a new group unless you turn it off from privacy settings. So, be careful when you are in a telegram, you may follow a few reputed exchange or news source. But make sure you are not doing any financial deal there.

Indeed, we know it best, since we got to know you thanks to the scammer who pretended to be you on TG Grin and then we checked (I assume some wouldn't and then would accuse you here) and found the real you Wink

CashbackLover
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 196
Merit: 15

Sovryn - Brings DeFi to Bitcoin


View Profile
December 17, 2020, 11:57:07 AM
 #12

Hello guys. After checking for quite long time, I see there's no single reliable Telegram ENG group?

Let me clarify what I mean - I saw hundreds of ICO, bounty, investment, signals, whales, P&D, etc. groups - 100% of them are scam, don't have anything useful or created just to get advertisement payments by reposting news, nothing more. In Russian it's almost same, but not 100% - 10% of groups are really good, professional, authors do very good analysis (NEVER SELL SIGNALS - if you see someone selling signals - ITS SCAM), either from fundamental side, from technical side, or from other aspects. Is it really so bad and trashy in ENG TG space?

Happy to see recommendations, unless its about bounties, DeFi, HYIP, ponzi, signals, ICOs...
There are many russian scammers as well in crypto space, in ICO days many ICO projects have russian CEO and they all turn scam projects, now it's hard for many to trust any new project that have russian team members, though most crypto scammers are english speakers, that's why we have more scam ENG telegram groups

CashbackLover
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 196
Merit: 15

Sovryn - Brings DeFi to Bitcoin


View Profile
December 17, 2020, 11:59:53 AM
 #13

Also most new crypto projects are from english part of the worlds like U.K, US, and other english spoken countries and mind you these english telegram groups also consider opening russian telegram groups if possible, don't invest in a project because of their activeness on telegram, it doesn't make sense

Josefjix
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1176
Merit: 286



View Profile
December 17, 2020, 12:08:54 PM
 #14

I have had this unpopular thought about telegram being a diminishing factor in reducing crimes in cryptocurrencies. I can't vouch for 100% of the groups been scam but I can boldly tell you that, telegram is a den of scammers where they rub off innocent victims of their funds. Activeness of some groups are sponsored, there are handful of legitimate traders on twitter twitter who can be your guide.

R


▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██████▄▄
████████████████
▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀█████
████████▌███▐████
▄▄▄▄█████▄▄▄█████
████████████████
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄██████▀▀
LLBITCRYPTO
FUTURES
[
1,000x
LEVERAGE
][
.
COMPETITIVE
FEES
][
INSTANT
EXECUTION
]██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
.
TRADE NOW
.
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
BillionairesWalk
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2
Merit: 0


View Profile
December 17, 2020, 12:11:42 PM
 #15

I say let's start a group where we can compile a list of ponzi / scammers in the crypto world, to warn others. I'd hate for some innocent person to get tricked.
as.exchange (OP)
Copper Member
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 140
Merit: 51

as.exchange


View Profile WWW
December 17, 2020, 08:37:41 PM
 #16

There are many russian scammers as well in crypto space, in ICO days many ICO projects have russian CEO and they all turn scam projects, now it's hard for many to trust any new project that have russian team members, though most crypto scammers are english speakers, that's why we have more scam ENG telegram groups

Also most new crypto projects are from english part of the worlds like U.K, US, and other english spoken countries and mind you these english telegram groups also consider opening russian telegram groups if possible, don't invest in a project because of their activeness on telegram, it doesn't make sense

No, it's not nation-related Grin There are many scammers from every part of the world and naturally they utilize either the languages they can speak, or languages they can afford to make marketing for. But I wasn't looking for ICO / DeFi channels at all - they are 99.99% scam, so don't even try. Was thinking of more analytical kind of content.



I have had this unpopular thought about telegram being a diminishing factor in reducing crimes in cryptocurrencies. I can't vouch for 100% of the groups been scam but I can boldly tell you that, telegram is a den of scammers where they rub off innocent victims of their funds. Activeness of some groups are sponsored, there are handful of legitimate traders on twitter twitter who can be your guide.

Would you say that Telegram is dead then for quality blockchain-related content?



I say let's start a group where we can compile a list of ponzi / scammers in the crypto world, to warn others. I'd hate for some innocent person to get tricked.

It's good and great idea (I believe you could earn merit points for that Grin), but there are 2 problems: 1) it's not vey feasible because TG groups emerge and die every hour and you cannot keep track of each of them manually; 2) The number is so huge, that's why I wanted to discover the good ones instead of finding which ones are bad. By Default 99.999999% are not good, so was hoping more experienced members here know what are those 00.000001% of groups / channels.

carlfebz2
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2940
Merit: 728


Seabet.io | Crypto-Casino


View Profile
December 17, 2020, 09:44:50 PM
 #17

You can check this one out.

https://decenter.org/en/top-10-crypto-telegram-channels
https://news.bitcoin.com/10-of-the-best-telegram-crypto-channels/

Just nitpick on which groups/channels would really fit out into your preference or criteria.

Darker45
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2576
Merit: 1859


🙏🏼Padayon...🙏


View Profile
December 18, 2020, 03:51:28 AM
 #18

There must be a few but with all the crappy ones it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'd rather not waste time hunting for it. And it's not about whether it is English or whatever language. Telegram, all in all, is now overpopulated with worthless channels.

Finally, even if the channel is not a scam and TAs are shared, compared, and discussed openly and professionally, seldom does it really bring much unless you yourself is good in analyzing and are just looking for comparison from other analysts. 

.BEST..CHANGE.███████████████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
███████████████
..BUY/ SELL CRYPTO..
as.exchange (OP)
Copper Member
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 140
Merit: 51

as.exchange


View Profile WWW
December 18, 2020, 06:39:58 AM
 #19

You can check this one out.

https://decenter.org/en/top-10-crypto-telegram-channels
https://news.bitcoin.com/10-of-the-best-telegram-crypto-channels/

Just nitpick on which groups/channels would really fit out into your preference or criteria.

Some of the groups listed there are indeed not too bad at least - already some progress Grin



There must be a few but with all the crappy ones it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'd rather not waste time hunting for it. And it's not about whether it is English or whatever language. Telegram, all in all, is now overpopulated with worthless channels.

Finally, even if the channel is not a scam and TAs are shared, compared, and discussed openly and professionally, seldom does it really bring much unless you yourself is good in analyzing and are just looking for comparison from other analysts. 

Yes, so it's nearly impossible to find anything good there. Guess will have to give up on TG then.

Phoenix_PROG
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 224
Merit: 28


View Profile
December 18, 2020, 07:54:38 AM
 #20

I'm a bit confused here, maybe I need more enlightenment on this? Some top well know DeFi projects have telegram groups, projects like Avalanche, DIA, Chainlink, Ferrum Network etc all have telegram groups, why are you saying that they are 99% scam, how can you judge a project mainly because of telegram group? Telegram is just a tool and scam projects will use it just like other good projects too
Pages: [1] 2 3 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!