THE RICH VS THE POOR. Societal Evaluation.

[Nelkel007]

Let's just concentrate on Rich kids and Poor kids.

Rich people's kids marrying each other is actually not that deep. They probably went to the same expensive schools and attend similar rich people's events. Where will they meet poor people?
At a holiday in Paris?

Let's be serious please and stop apportioning blames on them. But rather work hard to be the Rich someday.

[jackg]

work hard to be the Rich someday.

That statement is situational...

If you have Internet, you're in a 50% group of the world. If you speak English you're in 25%, if you can write it you're in 20% (all estimates).

The problems stem from telling people "you'll be rich if you just put the effort in". If this was the case, why are degrees other than the highest profit ones for the government offered to students? Why support English, accounting etc when you could force everyone to do an economics/maths/physics/computing degree where people can graduate and get a much higher level of employment.

Moral of the story: give up once you can "comfortably" live within your means and stop chasing an invisible dragon you probably won't find.

[Natsuu]

work hard to be the Rich someday.

That statement is situational...

If you have Internet, you're in a 50% group of the world. If you speak English you're in 25%, if you can write it you're in 20% (all estimates).

The problems stem from telling people "you'll be rich if you just put the effort in". If this was the case, why are degrees other than the highest profit ones for the government offered to students? Why support English, accounting etc when you could force everyone to do an economics/maths/physics/computing degree where people can graduate and get a much higher level of employment.

Moral of the story: give up once you can "comfortably" live within your means and stop chasing an invisible dragon you probably won't find.

You're almost there, you almost got my agreement, but you said "Give Up".

Its not a good moral at all, work hard as much as you, work until you can satisfy the needs of your family, until you raise them to higher situation, but don't give up. NEVER GIVE UP! (Situational applies for the poor ones just like what he have mentioned and implied)

This also applies to the OP's post where it is agreeable that rich marry rich because that is part of their society, and it is very low to meet someone in different level, and that is just what this world is. But the principle of "work hard to be rich someday" is insensitive for those workers who are only given low paygrade, those handworkers that works until nights out, yet cant achieve what you are trying to say. Just like what I believe, being from poor to rich is a step by step process that needs generations to be fulfilled, UNLESS you are given the opportunity to raise your rank immediately like a business or became known as a performer, but only a very few has this kind of opportunity. 

[Crptomagma]

Poverty is not the absence of money but the absence of a productive mindset. In life it’s important to properly plan for the future in other to avoid poor performance in All ramifications of life. I believe in hardworking but more of smart working in other to give your family/kids a better life and sophisticated exposure. Don’t be ashame of your work because no one will feed you if you’re broke .

[Cnut237]

Where will they meet poor people?

Yes. Rich people don't meet poor people. If they did, then there would be more empathy in the world, and less inequality.
For a billionaire's son at a private school in the US, the 'poor' that they know is the one kid at school who is only a millionaire's son. Other people in society are just that: other. The rich don't mix with the poor, don't see them as real people, don't understand they haven't had the same advantages, and don't have sufficient empathy.
And 'poor' is relative. Poor people in wealthy nations often have sufficient food, water, safety... but for many poorer nations, this isn't true, and these 'poor' would suddenly look rich. Again though, there is no mixing, and little empathy. People suffering in war-torn or famine-stricken nations thousands of miles away are, again, other.

[jonnywilson]

Let it be what they are and what they do. Everybody know that someday each person was poor and had nothing. And Some people just don't want to be rich because they are happy with their lifestyle.

And Just poor people don't want to get rich. Rich people make ladder of poor people to climb up. It doesn't mean for all rich people I mean some people who never think they are equal.

[Cnut237]

Rich people make ladder of poor people to climb up.

I'm not convinced by this. Trickle-down as a theory has I think been disproved by the history of the last few decades. The rich get richer and keep the poor at a basic subsistence level where they can. The rich need the poor to be willing to work on whatever terms the rich offer.

[Mauser]

Let's just concentrate on Rich kids and Poor kids.

Rich people's kids marrying each other is actually not that deep. They probably went to the same expensive schools and attend similar rich people's events. Where will they meet poor people?
At a holiday in Paris?

Let's be serious please and stop apportioning blames on them. But rather work hard to be the Rich someday.

If you are not born rich than your chances of becoming rich a very small. Even if you manage to become rich one day you will likely be old by then and your chances to enjoy your wealth are limited again. In the end we do it all for our kids. If we manage to amass a nice fortune it's likely going to be for our kids and grand kids to enjoy.

[franky1]

work hard to be the Rich someday.

That statement is situational...

If you have Internet, you're in a 50% group of the world. If you speak English you're in 25%, if you can write it you're in 20% (all estimates).

just for clarification.
if converting world economies to the cost of living/loaf of bread valuation instead of the US currency mis-match. most richest people live in china and dubai
bezos and musk are 'paper balance sheet' rich but not true currency rich

much like bitcoins 'market cap' being presented as $600bill. there is not $600billion of US$ sat in bank accounts somewhere tethered to bitcoin.
companies share price market cap is not bank accounts of that US$ somewhere

if oneday you buy 1 bitcoin for $10 that $10 of real money represents a market cap of $210m. but in real termss only $10 has been transacted and held in a bank account of the seller. but not in a bitcoin collateral account.

tesla 'market cap' of 800bill but this is not 800bill in a account held as collateral.
tesla is valued at 320b loaves of bread (bread $2.50/$800b)
alibaba is valued at 480b loaves of bread(bread 10Y/4.8t)

[yazher]

As a poor person, I don't blame the rich for my situation because those people have worked hard to get to their positions. Everyone has their own destiny and if everybody was rich, no one would be working in agricultural industries and especially those people who processed our daily needs those workers they've paid to put some foods in the cans. Everything in this world is balanced and people should not be sad if he is born poor because if he works hard and continues to preserve his dream in his heart, there is a higher percentage he could get it someday like many inspirational stories we heard from those rich people now.

[franky1]

As a poor person, I don't blame the rich for my situation because those people have worked hard to get to their positions. Everyone has their own destiny and if everybody was rich, no one would be working in agricultural industries and especially those people who processed our daily needs those workers they've paid to put some foods in the cans. Everything in this world is balanced and people should not be sad if he is born poor because if he works hard and continues to preserve his dream in his heart, there is a higher percentage he could get it someday like many inspirational stories we heard from those rich people now.

while thats said there are some societal blames.
for instance. the rich get tax reliefs where they can organise 'dinner meetings' thus eat for free. where as poorer people have to buy food after tax deductions.

instead of buying a car at $100k. the elites lease a car and have tax writeoffs meaning ait only costs them $25k which is offset against any tax they would have paid. thus nullifying the $25k
poor people however have to earn over $120k have their 20% deducted and then buy the carat $100k

but this presentation of a glamourous life makes poor people try to attain that higher image the hard way. they buy things to attain the glamour. thus end up spending more than their rich counterpart for the same glame life.

yep them lambos outside the bitcoin conference a few years back were rented. it was all done for presentation.

most of this is about education. elite private schools do teach things like tax law, budgeting. and ways to shift money around without costs. however standard state level schools do not.

it does not matter if a rich person inherits $100k or a poor person hard earns $100k. the elite person will have more information and support to make the most of the $100k to look like they have $1m.. where as the poor person ends up spending $100k where it looks like they only have $20k in the end