[XPM] Primecoin disaster relief fund will paypal cash for your primecoin

[yldouright]

For a limited time, I have been authorized to buy Primecoins using real money via a paypal transaction. Please pm or email me for rates and other pertinent information.

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[mhps]

I smell scam. Your post is being discussed here.

[yldouright]

Do you have a reason to call this a scam? Have you or anyone else you know of had a bad business deal with me? Opening a discussion on a website I am not a member of and prompting me to defend myself on it is not a very civil thing to do, how would you like it if I were to disparage you and your dealings all over the internet forcing you to register and reply on all those websites? If you have some concerns or would like more details you are free to discuss them openly here or privately via the pm or email function from this forum.

[mhps]

Do you have a reason to call this a scam? Have you or anyone else you know of had a bad business deal with me? Opening a discussion on a website I am not a member of and prompting me to defend myself on it is not a very civil thing to do, how would you like it if I were to disparage you and your dealings all over the internet forcing you to register and reply on all those websites? If you have some concerns or would like more details you are free to discuss them openly here or privately via the pm or email function from this forum.

I gave you a chance to explain. Most people didn't bother to even click on your post -- your cryptic "authorized" , "a liimited time", "pm", "disaster relief fund" is more than capable of setting off scam alert. bye

[yldouright]

It's a funny way to give someone a chance by accusing them first and expecting a reply but whatever, thanks for the drama.

[damiano]

It's way to easy for you to charge back paypal 4 months down the line

[yldouright]

A paypal charge back is not automatic. Paypal will only reverse transactions when goods are deemed to be defective in some way or a failure to deliver has occurred and proof needs to be submitted for them to accept this premise. Traders will have a transaction record of the transfer and emails describing the transfer as your defense. If it is suspected that I dared an attempt to defraud someone using paypal, I will lose my account. I have a presence on this and other forums where any wrongdoing could easily be exposed and reported causing a loss of reputation and trustworthiness. Given the risk of impediments to my assigned task of accumulating XPM, I have very little incentive to reverse a small transaction on you. There is risk in all business dealings and it ultimately boils down to confidence in the person you are dealing with. I am eager to build this confidence.

[rikkejohn]

A paypal charge back is not automatic. Paypal will only reverse transactions when goods are deemed to be defective in some way or a failure to deliver has occurred and proof needs to be submitted for them to accept this premise. Traders will have a transaction record of the transfer and emails describing the transfer as your defense. If it is suspected that I dared an attempt to defraud someone using paypal, I will lose my account. I have a presence on this and other forums where any wrongdoing could easily be exposed and reported causing a loss of reputation and trustworthiness. Given the risk of impediments to my assigned task of accumulating XPM, I have very little incentive to reverse a small transaction on you. There is risk in all business dealings and it ultimately boils down to confidence in the person you are dealing with. I am eager to build this confidence.

paypal will reverse transactions, the buyer simply claims their credit card was stolen, the credit card company gets tough with paypal. paypal dithers for 4 months, then decides against you.

I even had positive feedback from my buyer, snapshots of the transaction, and a personal email from the buyer comng from the account holders address.

Paypal allowed the chargeback, put my paypal account into debit, and started sending me threatening emails.

[yldouright]

I'm sorry you had this bad experience but the seller was more at fault there than the service. I have not experienced any negative transactions to date but I am aware that even a buyer of coin can be the victim of abuse. The bottom line is that there is no good business with a bad man or woman. Paypal payments do not need to be credit card based; e-checks and cash transfers from balance are transaction vehicles that also limit recourse. I will even do the small transactions to build a reputation of fair dealing.

[tins]

bump

No need to bump anymore.
Everyone on here knows that hundreds of hacked Paypal accounts are sold every day on SR 2.0, Evo, Ag, and other marketplaces. Any sale of a crypto currency paid by Paypal from an anonymous person will be charged back and the crypto owner (XPM in this case) will lose their coins forever.

(Not to mention the fact that if funds were really to be used for disaster relief then it would be the other way around. You'd want to sell YOUR Primecoins for other peoples' Paypal payment to have local currency available to pay for that disaster relief.
Makes no sense.)

[moreia]

I would not even bother
No trust status just a guy claiming he'll get you PP for the coin, probably going to try load up in the 45 day period then chargeback on you all and reap his rewards

[smoothie]

what disaster are you relieving?

[atp1916]

what disaster are you relieving?

OP's bank account? 

[yldouright]

Thank you all for your questions, jibes and concerns. I think it is clear from prior posts and the resulting charts that Primecoin [XPM] is the disaster being referenced. I have made 7 positive transactions trading primecoin for paypal without incident to date with an average payout of $0.71 per coin and I have been posting long enough here and other forums for any charge back events to have been exposed. All who have traded with me have been happy with the result but I recognize this may change if primecoin reverses it's ever relentless downward trend. Everyone is entitled to remain skeptical but I am interested only in honest transactions and am eager to prove this to any and all reading. If you have XPM that you are willing to exchange for dollars, I encourage you to contact me to discuss terms. Positive feedback and a report of your transaction experience will be encouraged but not mandated. I'm easy and fair and sooner or later, that will get around.

[tins]

Thank you all for your questions, jibes and concerns. I think it is clear from prior posts and the resulting charts that Primecoin [XPM] is the disaster being referenced. I have made 7 positive transactions trading primecoin for paypal without incident to date with an average payout of $0.71 per coin and I have been posting long enough here and other forums for any charge back events to have been exposed. All who have traded with me have been happy with the result but I recognize this may change if primecoin reverses it's ever relentless downward trend. Everyone is entitled to remain skeptical but I am interested only in honest transactions and am eager to prove this to any and all reading. If you have XPM that you are willing to exchange for dollars, I encourage you to contact me to discuss terms. Positive feedback and a report of your transaction experience will be encouraged but not mandated. I'm easy and fair and sooner or later, that will get around.

Nobody is going to fall for your scam. The premise doesn't make any sense...you need liquid local currency to help with any sort of disaster relief. Therefore, you should be selling YOUR Primecoins for other peoples Paypal. The other way around makes zero sense. Maybe time to call it quits? Try to think out the next scam a little better.

[smoothie]

Price going down =/= Disaster

Sounds like opportunity to me. 

[yldouright]

Smoothie
Maybe so, there are some intrepid speculators that agree with you and are putting money behind that outcome. I am doing my part where I can.

tins
It all depends on what happens in the future. If XPM reverses its downward trend, then yes, you are correct to say the relief would be in my selling coin but the reality is those I paid above $0.80 per coin are the ones who are relieved now. This is not a scam, only honest speculation. What happens if all the coins fail in the future? Those that sell to me today will be thankful they did. I will repeat the question to you as I have done to others, why do you believe this a scam?

[tins]

Smoothie
Maybe so, there are some intrepid speculators that agree with you and are putting money behind that outcome. I am doing my part where I can.

tins
It all depends on what happens in the future. If XPM reverses its downward trend, then yes, you are correct to say the relief would be in my selling coin but the reality is those I paid above $0.80 per coin are the ones who are relieved now. This is not a scam, only honest speculation. What happens if all the coins fail in the future? Those that sell to me today will be thankful they did. I will repeat the question to you as I have done to others, why do you believe this a scam?

Because it is an obvious scam.
The premise doesn't make any sense...you need liquid local currency to help with any sort of disaster relief. Therefore, you should be selling YOUR Primecoins for other peoples Paypal. The other way around makes zero sense. The only reason you want to by any crypto currency with Paypal is to reverse the transaction at a later date or use a stolen account and have the victim reverse the transaction at a later date. Both scenarios have you walking away stealing coins.
 

[yldouright]

tins
calling something scam repeatedly does not make it one. You need to admit that you have no factual basis for your statements and stop acting like a child. Stating slanderous allegations against another forum member without a factual basis is a rule violation. If my intention were to do as you suggest, the result of those alleged misdeeds would have become known by now. I don't know why you feel the need to persist on attacking my honest effort but I have decided to report your post as a means of defending my reputation.

[tins]

tins
calling something scam repeatedly does not make it one. You need to admit that you have no factual basis for your statements and stop acting like a child. Stating slanderous allegations against another forum member without a factual basis is a rule violation. If my intention were to do as you suggest, the result of those alleged misdeeds would have become known by now. I don't know why you feel the need to persist on attacking my honest effort but I have decided to report your post as a means of defending my reputation.

I was finished with you and this thread. Then, YOU ASKED me, "I will repeat the question to you as I have done to others, why do you believe this a scam?"
You asked me the question, I thought you wanted me to answer. I posted my answer to YOUR QUESTION, "The premise doesn't make any sense...you need liquid local currency to help with any sort of disaster relief. Therefore, you should be selling YOUR Primecoins for other peoples Paypal. The other way around makes zero sense..."

Why would you ask me to explain my reasoning, then get angry that I answered?


(Also, you never addressed how my reasoning... you need liquid local currency to help with any sort of disaster relief. Therefore, you should be selling YOUR Primecoins for other peoples Paypal. The other way around makes zero sense...)

[yldouright]

tins
I would not have been angered by a thoughtful reply but you called it an "obvious scam" without any evidence to back up such a strong negative claim. If you look more carefully at the response made to your logical conjecture you will see that you answered a direct question with an opinion not based on facts and when you do that with no other apparent purpose than to damage an honest effort, I believed it a cause for retaliation. You will see from my prior posts that I believe criticism is a positive thing when it has a tangible basis but yours had no such thing to back it up. I am providing liquidity to owners of XPM whose only other option is exchange for other crypto. Clearly, my exchange method is far less costly and nets the user a greater value for their coin with arguably less risk. Consider what the user of primecoin needs to do to get spendable money and my point becomes much clearer.

[netfence]

Hey'all, I just want to say I sold my primecoin to this guy. I got $0.74 for a little over 48 coins. He's been asking me to say something for a while but I haven't got around to it till now. Sorry Alex. I hope this is the right forum, you gave me two links and I picked the first one. Good luck!

[yldouright]

netfence
Thanks for the post but since you went to the trouble of registering, would it have killed you to give me some trust points?  

[omoplata]

I am a lurker. Not a astroturfing account.
yldouright is legit and serves as a highly professional middleman between buyer and seller.

[yldouright]

omoplata
Thank you for your report. Please feel free to update your trading experience in a few months so that fears of transaction reversal can continue to be debunked.

[gondel]

For a limited time, I have been authorized to buy Primecoins using real money via a paypal transaction. Please pm or email me for rates and other pertinent information.

Hello,
You say you are selling XPM, but at what rates? Prices right now are too low really.
What is your offer? I prefer to post it here not PM, because it is more visible be the community adn to avoid scam. I have some XPM which I am holding since the last big bubble . Thanks!
BR
Gondel

[yldouright]

gondel
Thank you for your interest. Reread the text and note that this is a purchase offer. I am not buying your cryptocoin but I put forward the amount of coin available for sale to a pool of investors. I receive their bids and email you the best one. The rate will typically be between the current bid and ask price of the coin in question and so is subject to the market. The last transaction performed closed at $0.37 per coin for the seller. I've done trades from 23 to 878 coins so far  and the investors in aggregate have lost approximately $1900 which means that is the loss avoided by those that sold through me during this coins decline. If one spins this fact like a government budget, you could say that is the benefit gained by the sellers.
 

[yldouright]

bump

[yldouright]

It's been a while since I reminded everyone I'm still around. NO reversed transactions and NO negative reports. If you're going to sell your primecoin, it's hard to do better. Quick, easy and safe. I currently have a bid for up to 1,000 coins @$0.35.

[yldouright]

The offer to purchase @ $0.35 is only 281 coins now. Someone saw the arbitrage opportunity here  

[yldouright]

Nice spike in this coin. You may want to sell now.

[activebiz]

why use PayPal instead of bitcoins. any chance u accept btc payments.

[yldouright]

I am setup to exchange USD only so no payments in BTC to primecoin sellers.

[yldouright]

Just to let you guys know I'm still buying

[yldouright]

Okay, it's been a successful endeavor but the window is closing soon. No further XPM purchases will be made after 3/31/2016 so if you want to sell or use your primecoin, you'll need to find another method after that date.