About the situation with the Russian locale

[Vadi2323]

About the situation with the Russian locale

Normal communication of normal people is removing under the pretext of some unofficial list of official rules. In the meantime, for example, the offtopic is not deleted under the pretext "the fraud is not moderated".

Reports for signature spam are not processed at all. Again. Reports for signature spam are not processed at all.

Against this background, as a result, the Russian locale is dying, there are no adequate posters, there are no messages even in very important topical topics.

These are not unfounded statements - see the statistics of visits - nobody needs the locale. Inadequate moderation and the dominance of monetization-oriented users who came from buxes, who have nothing sacred and only want to get satoshi and immediately sell them for fiat, all this has already led to a disaster in the Russian locale.

I see that my efforts to influence the situation are not enough and the voiced problems sound, perhaps, too fantastic due to their neglect for a long time. But if someone has a desire to help the Russian locale, pay attention to such suggestions:
1) look at the statistics on the Russian locale and draw conclusions
2) do not disregard complaints about the moderators, as it was done there https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146199 The fact that there are few of them does not mean that the problem is insignificant, many are afraid to spoil relations with moderators and are silent
3) do not allow users like suchmoon and LoyceV to interfere with the Russian locale and exert a destructive influence to suppress discontent. The fact that I am telling about them in the English board is not unfounded words, I ask you to take them seriously. There is no help from them, only harm. Sachmun does not just harm, he actively harms.
4) if you do not want to prohibit subscription campaigns, then on the way, introduce strict independent control over the managers of such campaigns so that they are not the organizers of the subscription spam that flooded the forum. At the moment they are not controlled by anyone. They decide who to take in the campaign, whom not to take, and as a result, an army of slaves was formed that will always come to the aid of the owner if only he took it in the next campaign and never dares to object to him
5) remove the merit system, it does not work, it only generates "merit spam"

Not a single normal person will remain on the forum, where, in response to a question, he receives a bunch of garbage covered with ads

[LoyceV]

3) do not allow users like ~ LoyceV to interfere with the Russian locale

Dear Trust abuser, why can't you leave me out of your drama?

* LoyceV doesn't even speak Russian.

[Vadi2323]

3) do not allow users like ~ LoyceV to interfere with the Russian locale

Dear Trust abuser, why can't you leave me out of your drama?

* LoyceV doesn't even speak Russian.

I wrote to you in the trust about your supporting of russian scammers .

And I also meant this: "In this case, KTChampions in addition scoffs at LoyceV's hypocrisy"

I hope LoyceV and YOSHIE will like this story as they tried to figure out this whole situation.

I'm going to click "unwatch" on this thread, I've wasted enough time reading this vendetta.

KTChampions always uses a killer strategy: he gives out part of the compromising information known to him and when the defendant naively gives a false excuse, KTChampions gives another (not all) part, convicting the first excuse of lying and this continues until the victim is completely discredited.

In this case, KTChampions in addition scoffs at LoyceV's hypocrisy )

Here are the links to how you sabotaged the fight against an extremely malicious signature spammer / multi account, which for several years littered the russian forum with garbage, and also successfully counteracted the fight against farmers of Russian local accounts:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192395.msg52826098#msg52826098 https://archive.md/nDI19
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192395.msg53462826#msg53462826 https://archive.vn/76wch
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192395.msg52780633#msg52780633 https://archive.md/Q0uCi

For those who don't know, the topic was a turning point in the fight against account farmers in the Russian locale which continued for several months (!!!). It was the marking with the help of the English DT (the corrupt Russian DT was inactive and even opposed) one of the furious saboteurs of the fight against account farmers that broke the back of this phenomenon in the Russian locale. As we can see, you did not help and counteracted in every possible way.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Inadequate moderation and the dominance of monetization-oriented users who came from buxes, who have nothing sacred and only want to get satoshi and immediately sell them for fiat, all this has already led to a disaster in the Russian locale.

I don't know much about the Russian section, but I don't doubt what you're saying since the same thing has been happening in the English sections for years now.  I've never had a fundamental problem with signature campaigns or even members being motivated to post solely because they're earning money, but I've always had a problem with members who put zero effort into their posts and still expect to get paid.  It sounds like the Russian section is turning into Altcoin Discussion, i.e., a spammer-magnet section.

3) do not allow users like suchmoon and LoyceV to interfere with the Russian locale and exert a destructive influence to suppress discontent.

What are those two doing, exactly?  Both of them are very respected members of the forum, and I haven't seen them trying to suppress any discontent lately.  Are they active in the Russian section?

[suchmoon]

What are those two doing, exactly?  Both of them are very respected members of the forum, and I haven't seen them trying to suppress any discontent lately.  Are they active in the Russian section?

I think OP's issue with me is some sort of butthurt related to my opinion about Livecoin and the way I send merits and possibly me not appreciating OP's trust abuse. In other words, bullshit as usual but it gets attention when you post "suchmoon" and "LoyceV" in bold so why not. If the OP had a proper complaint they wouldn't be dancing around with vague dramatic crypthunterisms.

[izooomrud]

I wrote to you in the trust about your supporting of russian scammers .

It's so funny when a scammer writes about a scam. For those who do not understand what I am talking about, this user until the last moment protected the exchange of scammers - livecoin, because of his actions, the victims could not receive their money, and some of the people who believed his lies continued to use this exchange and today this exchange cheated them too.
If you want you can check his negative actions yourself in the subject of the accusation in my signature.

Also more detail here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183930.msg52431739#msg52431739

[xandry]

Normal communication of normal people is removing under the pretext of some unofficial list of official rules.

Do you have any examples?

In the meantime, for example, the offtopic is not deleted under the pretext "the fraud is not moderated".

Oh, it is about the livecoin exchange thread?

Reports for signature spam are not processed at all. Again. Reports for signature spam are not processed at all.

I’m sorry, but I don’t see any unhandled reports from you.

These are not unfounded statements - see the statistics of visits - nobody needs the locale.

So do you think that the fact that the forum is blocked by the roskomnadzor is not important?