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December 22, 2020, 09:46:01 AM
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Reward or no reward people will do their best to avoid being affected by the Covid 19 virus because they all know that their lives is at stake so for me this government reward is not necessary as long as they provide health support to their people by implementing strict safety health protocols and giving food supply for them to survive. Rewards will just make the government to bankrupt specially to the over populated nations with weak economy.
I think an incentive could work but that would be practically impossible because monetary rewards will soon be a problem for the government expenditure. I hate that the only thing that is keeping us alive is that we fear we are the one that might get infected and not make it but we can't do shit. I think the best solution here is for the governing bodies to create a far more effective and efficient way to contain the virus because the conventional way seems to have their own cracks that could get out of hand really quick.

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December 22, 2020, 11:11:47 AM
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I wish we lived in a world where governments could implement a system to reward people that stay Covid free. We see huge amounts of money  being send to people for economic boosters and social grants being paid, but no incentive to reward people that adhere to the rules and those that are staying Covid free.

I'm sick of all the handouts. So many people around me have pocketed tens of thousands USD in handouts from stimulus funds, unemployment that should have run out many months ago, etc.

Managing to not get sick should not justify yet another government handout. How about we go back to a system where people make an honest living, instead of sucking on the government teat? Roll Eyes

You people are turning me into a conservative.....

You my friend are totally missing the point of this .....

When less people get sick... less of the government taxes are spend on hospitalization in public hospitals. (Also a massive strain on private medical aid funds) .....so an incentive like this will put more money back into government pockets. Also those funds will go where it is really needed.. (The saving will pay for the majority of these rewards) .... Do you know what it is costing the government to put 1 person on a ventilator for 1 month in extensive care?)

I think people should focus more on the positive side of this idea and less on how it would be impossible to implement. (First world countries are giving money away for FREE to stimulate economies.... why not add a little requirement to qualify for this)  Huh

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December 22, 2020, 11:38:21 AM
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That would be a great idea and it surely encourage people to stay at home in order to be covid free a reward will be given to those people who are truly abiding the healthy protocols and regulations implemented by the government. It would be interesting event and it will be an effective way of not infecting virus to each and everyone.

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December 22, 2020, 11:48:36 AM
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I think government can use reward for Covid Free people as another way to protect the people being infected because if they can give the reward, then the people will definitely follow the government health protocols in order to get the reward.

But on the other hand, government is too corrupt and I don't think they will make  an allocation about it because it's too expensive for them and will only be added to government spending specially for the country with higher number of population.

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December 22, 2020, 11:57:40 AM
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Eli Khamarov said great words: "Poverty is like punishment for a crime you didn't commit". And that's 100% true. This proposal isn't directly in touch with the main subject of this thread but no one will reward you for being a good boy. I don't understand at all what's going on, the people who they save have dead are those with more than 1-2 chronic diseases and their state of being was already very critical. It would be better to see the statistics of those who dead with and without covid, both of them. Personally, I think that they play with statistics. Some countries rise statistics manually in order to get help with the form of money, i.e. grants from USA and Europe. In reality, they are making tons of money (big guys) with the current situation while it really hugely affects the population.

So, the reward for covid free people won't happen. No one will help you because you are a good guy! Also, this model of reward for me sounds illogical and not so good because maybe I have been covid free from the beginning but maybe I'll get infected tomorrow, after receiving the reward.

Btw I don't know if the reward for us is the money they give us, in reality that debt will be paid by US, it's like giving out a loan and paying yourself the loan that you gave away. A lot of illogical things happen in our world.

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December 22, 2020, 02:04:46 PM
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Eli Khamarov said great words: "Poverty is like punishment for a crime you didn't commit". And that's 100% true. This proposal isn't directly in touch with the main subject of this thread but no one will reward you for being a good boy. I don't understand at all what's going on, the people who they save have dead are those with more than 1-2 chronic diseases and their state of being was already very critical. It would be better to see the statistics of those who dead with and without covid, both of them. Personally, I think that they play with statistics. Some countries rise statistics manually in order to get help with the form of money, i.e. grants from USA and Europe. In reality, they are making tons of money (big guys) with the current situation while it really hugely affects the population.

So, the reward for covid free people won't happen. No one will help you because you are a good guy! Also, this model of reward for me sounds illogical and not so good because maybe I have been covid free from the beginning but maybe I'll get infected tomorrow, after receiving the reward.

Btw I don't know if the reward for us is the money they give us, in reality that debt will be paid by US, it's like giving out a loan and paying yourself the loan that you gave away. A lot of illogical things happen in our world.

Well, as you said.. Governments and the World Health Organization is rewarding the countries for people who are infected... is that not illogical? Why give governments money for people who got infected?..... does that make sense at all?  (Yes, the thinking behind it is to fund the consequences of this virus... but my idea will prevent it.)

You will have to think out of the box for this idea to work.... even if there are 1000s of loopholes and also negative consequences as a result of such an idea. (Why would governments be serious to curb the spread of the virus, if they get paid for people who are infected or who have died?)

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December 22, 2020, 02:37:16 PM
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It will make people try to be more careful like wearing mask and being sanitisers everywhere, this will be good.
but won't they also pretend not having covid instead just to get rewards while they already have and infect more people in the process.

Just being without a covid is already a reward for being careful. Not helping the people who got covid and without jobs is more like inhumane which they need immediate care.




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December 22, 2020, 02:42:25 PM
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I think government can use reward for Covid Free people as another way to protect the people being infected because if they can give the reward, then the people will definitely follow the government health protocols in order to get the reward.
Are you sure all people will follow all the protocols even though they have been given a reward. Some groups of people or individuals have different characteristics, some run according to the rules, some don't care about it. Some of the stimulations given by the government in my country are given to workers or employees and to traders. so not everyone can get cash stimulus. for other stimuli in the form of basic foodstuffs, it is given equally to residents who are included in the population list.

But on the other hand, government is too corrupt and I don't think they will make  an allocation about it because it's too expensive for them and will only be added to government spending specially for the country with higher number of population.
Some additional allocations that are needed will certainly be very helpful, but these allocations for this pandemic are indeed very vulnerable to corruption. Just imagine that some corrupt officials have cut the funds provided to the public and that happened a few weeks ago.
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December 22, 2020, 02:43:32 PM
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Good idea but the problem is if the government will allow it. I hope the government can think of this because it is also a better way to avoid the spreading of virus and also help people to become more careful about their health. The reward will attract the attention of the people to obey the health protocol. Great idea!

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December 22, 2020, 04:36:07 PM
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I hear ya loud and clear here on this.  Now as you stated there is really no good way or legitimate way of actually implementing this idea, or at least one I can think of off the top of my head. For me at least, a United States citizen, it's baffling to me that I've got a President who was so hopelessly careless about getting covid then of course contracting it..this does nothing but show is supporter base it's okay to be a moron and just ignore medical/scientific advice.  I do wish there were a way to reward those who didn't follow is ignorant lead.

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December 22, 2020, 05:10:27 PM
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Dude, why you want to reward people for doing nothing or taking no risk to grow the economy? What's the end of this? Everyone stays inside and does whatever the government wants? We already in the phase of "ignoring" the virus or "living with the virus" as the previous efforts have been failed, and we are on the brink of economic catastrophe. So, stay covid free is not the desired outcome, but immunity is.

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December 22, 2020, 05:30:54 PM
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This is quite an interesting idea, I even think that way when my coworkers are lazy.  "overcoming rule-breaking attitudes is rewarding rule-abiding" and it worked.  However, if the context is the country, this might be a very big scope.  While governments from developed countries who may have a large state budget can be applied in their country for the latest Covid handling steps.  For a country that is poor and has a very large population, it requires enormous funds.  Governments in poor countries like mine are busy providing assistance to people affected by Covid and currently regulations are also a little lax, so that people who are disobedient are increasing.  Even worse, the Minister in my country who manages the distribution of the Covid19 aid fund is corrupting Covid funds.  So sad.  But I believe the idea of ​​giving rewards to those who are free of covid can help prevent the spread of covid, because many people are motivated to be free from covid.  However, this can only be done by countries with large budgets.
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December 22, 2020, 05:39:20 PM
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Staying fit and healthy is the best reward that we could have as we follow the protocols to stay free from the Covid virus. We all deserve to be rewarded but our health is the best wealth that we could have that no amount of money could buy. Also, it should be our personal choice to stay covid free. The government still has a lot to sustain just like the treatment of the infected people and to be honest, most of them also did their best to get rid of the virus but still get infected because the virus is just everywhere.
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December 22, 2020, 05:40:31 PM
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i stay in home, very fear for my grandpa
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December 22, 2020, 08:05:35 PM
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That would have been favorable. But the chore is not so manageable. It will be incredibly tough for so various people to snatch such a huge step for the government lonely. Nevertheless, the reward system can be inaugurated for those who are helpless, such as not being eligible to endeavor or are in disastrous need, living below the poverty line.
they will not waste that time, they will prefer to use the money for the development of their country and somehow recover from the losses caused by the pandemic, it's a good suggestion but in reality even the government doesn't like it they prefer to give a loan for individual business so they can start to recover their bussines than using that money for rewarding other that follow the rules. And besides it is not insignificant that more people have not yet gotten sick compared to those who are already infected. which means they also need to allocate large funds of money to make this successful .
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December 22, 2020, 10:44:15 PM
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Reward system could really improve the discipline among people according to B. F. Skinner.
But I guess such thing will not be appropriate for this situation. There are more casualties which are needing more attention than to focus on giving rewards to those who would be able to not be in contact with the virus. Also, there will be a problem with the budget allocation of the government when it comes to economic and health related problems. Corruption may also arise due to such thing wherein officials could hide the identity of those people who will be eligible of the rewards. Another thing is to where will they get such fund? More likely, they will focus on the problem itself, as a traditional way to solve issues than to go preventive. This would only work at the first and not during the process wherein there are already first and second wave to some countries.



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December 22, 2020, 11:10:59 PM
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By giving rewards to people who are not infected with COVID19, it will increase people's discipline to comply with health protocols.
But the negative side is that the government will need a special budget for this idea. And don't let the budget for rewards use the budget
to provide assistance for victims infected with COVID19. Even though we want to carry out this idea, people who are positive for COVID19
are still the top priority for assistance.

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December 22, 2020, 11:49:04 PM
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I'm sick of all the handouts. So many people around me have pocketed tens of thousands USD in handouts from stimulus funds, unemployment that should have run out many months ago, etc.

Managing to not get sick should not justify yet another government handout. How about we go back to a system where people make an honest living, instead of sucking on the government teat? Roll Eyes

You people are turning me into a conservative.....

You my friend are totally missing the point of this .....

When less people get sick... less of the government taxes are spend on hospitalization in public hospitals.

No, you are missing the point. The distribution of COVID-19 is always going to be asymmetric, since it spreads much more easily among the poor, who are forced to live in crowded and unhygienic spaces and to work jobs that constantly expose them to infection.

What you're talking about is yet another subsidy to middle class and rich people, who already have the luxury of isolating themselves, having all their purchases delivered to their door, working from home, etc.

The distribution of helicopter money has already been so perversely fucked up that I'd rather see it all stop entirely than to see even more people who don't need handouts, get them. The government is just choosing winners and losers and reinforcing existing socioeconomic inequality.

Maybe I'm just biased as someone who works my fucking ass off running 3 businesses, with a family to take care of, and I know people who have been taking handout after handout from the government, sitting on their asses all day doing nothing. I'm tired of it. These incentives are not economically viable and they just create artificial winners and losers.

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December 23, 2020, 01:06:56 AM
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I don't think it is something that has to be rewarded since it is really our responsibility to keep ourselves healthy even without the pandemic. Why would the government spend its budget incentivizing or rewarding people who haven't caught Covid. This amount of money can be spent somewhere else than to give people incentives for not getting Covid.
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December 23, 2020, 07:04:28 AM
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It's a viral outbreak, how do you expect people to stay uninfected no matter how hard they try?  I have no doubt that a lot of people who've come down with COVID-19 were taking precautions against it, so I'd think that rewarding people for not getting sick is kind of a silly idea.

Plus there would be all sorts of abuses depending on what the reward was, not to mention the effort the government would have to exert to prove someone wasn't infected.  And then what if someone gets sick after they've been rewarded?  Just thinking about this makes me want to rip my hair out, as it's just a dumb idea.

Stay COVID-free because you want to stay healthy and not infect others.  There shouldn't be any kind of incentive other than that.

I agree.

Government funding such a silly idea would just be a waste. It's more ideal to invest the money on the vaccine, that's a more better reward than money, because with a successful vaccine, you could continue to earn and save money again, simple as that. But since people are getting short in money, they still prefer cash over a contribution of tax (let's say a reward system would be implemented) that could help them in the long run by having the vaccine in the right time.
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