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December 22, 2020, 03:27:30 AM
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This article.

I speculate that the cryptospace will be fractured to the compliant exchanges based in America like Coinbase and Gemini, the noncompliant of the rule but still KYC exchanges similar to Binance, Bittrex, others outside of America and the grey exchanges where there will never be KYC.

I am afraid that in the future, the acceptance of the coins withdrawn from each of these exchanges might be different depending where they came from. Grey exchange coins might be considered dirty coins.  



FinCEN wants to lower the threshold for automatic Suspicious Activity Reporting (SAR) under the Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) that Money Services Businesses (MSB) are required to comply with to $250.00 USD on cryptocurrency transactions that cross a US border.

Additionally, FinCEN wants to change the definition of "money" to include Convertible Virtual Currencies (CVC).

This is bad for many reasons, I encourage you to take a few moments to read through the rule changes and think critically about the implications.


Read in full https://www.econoalchemist.com/post/fincen-fatf-purposed-travel-rule-changes

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December 22, 2020, 06:30:02 AM
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I've just posted to a relative topic.

Thread: New rules from FinCEN

For those traders that have been doing and fine with KYC on certain exchanges that requires it to increase their limits, there could no longer be a problem to them and they can easily adopt. Especially if they're from the US.

I am afraid that in the future, the acceptance of the coins withdrawn from each of these exchanges might be different depending where they came from. Grey exchange coins might be considered dirty coins. 
And it has to be recorded and needed for the compliance of what FinCen is going to implement.

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December 22, 2020, 01:50:59 PM
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It seems the US has gone paranoid over cryptocurrency. The land of the free doesn't seem to like its citizens being too free.

I am not underestimating the security contribution of SAR. It must have helped a lot in keeping the US safe. But I guess lowering the threshold to $250 is a bit too much. That's way too low. I guess it will give a lot of inconvenience to a whole lot of people simply doing normal day-to-day cross-border transactions. Imagine your transaction which is but a mere purchase of apparels being flagged as a suspicious activity.

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December 22, 2020, 03:29:31 PM
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I think it's far more than just where your coin comes from, but in general use of cryptocurrencies is involved in this discussion. Imagine those in power in the largest banks have suspicions, and they want to have more control over it by invading your privacy and having that data collection in their hands. Like in the article, I agree that they should fix the old financial system's flaws and adapt to the new way of financial systems.

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December 22, 2020, 11:59:14 PM
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FinCEN’s decision might seem bad for many reasons, but it is also good for many reasons.  Let's wait and see the results.

Cryptocurrency is still in its immature stage so we have to expect this coming initially.

But then, sooner or later.  Once the cryptocurrency is scaled, users will then appeal.  Let’s just let the initial execution kicks and then wait until it’ll be developed.

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December 23, 2020, 03:04:16 AM
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I speculate that the cryptospace will be fractured to the compliant exchanges based in America like Coinbase and Gemini, the noncompliant of the rule but still KYC exchanges similar to Binance, Bittrex, others outside of America and the grey exchanges where there will never be KYC.

it will be interesting to see how exchanges like binance, kucoin, bybit, etc respond. i suspect (and hope) they'll continue to dance around the issue by claiming they prohibit USA customers. thus in theory, they aren't transmitting transactions that cross USA borders, so nothing is reportable to FINCEN.

that way, they can keep allowing unverified traders.

it's playing with fire, of course. FINCEN may already deem what a lot of these exchanges are doing as illegal money transmission in service of USA customers. the more rigid their regulations get, the more likely they are to eventually sanction someone like binance. i just hope when that inevitably happens that it's a civil penalty---not a criminal one that shuts the whole exchange down.

the end game is to force all exchanges (not just american ones) into mandatory KYC. i strongly feel they're gonna make the case that geo-blocking americans or banning them in terms of service is insufficient, and that only mandatory KYC can prevent foreign exchanges from doing business with americans.

FinCEN’s decision might seem bad for many reasons, but it is also good for many reasons.

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December 23, 2020, 04:24:12 AM
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FinCEN’s decision might seem bad for many reasons, but it is also good for many reasons.  Let's wait and see the results.

To be fair, there might be something good coming from this. What that is, I don't know. But whatever it is, it will certainly be dwarfed by the bad.

FinCEN repeatedly mentions national security, money laundering, terrorist financing, and so on. But they seem to be barking at the wrong tree. They seem to equate transnational crimes and the market of illegal goods and services to what they call as Convertible Virtual Currency (CVC).

My goodness! Is there even a single bullet of the entire ISIS bought using crypto? Was there at least a single instance in which these Toyota-riding scumbags demanded ransom in Bitcoin?

Furthermore, I think the primary tool for money laundering is fiat and the primary vehicles are legally registered and licensed banks. Are they as pressured as CVC right now? I don't think so. There is reason to doubt the purity of the agency's intention.

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December 23, 2020, 08:10:43 AM
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FinCEN’s decision might seem bad for many reasons, but it is also good for many reasons.
One good reason that I can see on this is that hacked funds will easily be caught and traced by them and can't penetrate to any exchanges under US' jurisdiction. But Binance has done already a solution to this to block addresses that are involved to any fund hackings and other exchanges as well.

Other than that, I don't see other good reason for us, small individuals who are part of this. We may not be affected on this for now, but those crypto folks under their jurisdiction wouldn't agree on this. They have no choice and this could come also near to us in the future and that's really possible if it's coming from this US bureau.

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