Cryptomint9 not a plagiarist?

[Rikafip]

@lovesmayfamilis I know that it probably won't have any effect, but have you tried contacting @Cryptomint9 (beside leaving him neutral tag), explaining him that what he is doing is wrong and that he should stop with this because he will most likely get banned? I know that ignorance is not a valid reason for breaking the forum rules, but I am just curious why he keeps doing the same thing.

I think plagiarism rules need an update. It's not that difficult to start a copied text with "I copied/translated this from xx", followed by quote-tags.

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Either expand the plagiarism rule or at least forum staff should start deleting all those copy/pasted walls of texts that weren't formatted properly. Rule nr 1 says "No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads." so there is already basis for deletion.

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[bullrun2024bro]

I don't know how many plagiarism perks the moderators will give to this user. But I again observe insolent plagiarism, in two sections of the forum at once. And as always, without providing links to the source.

Plagiarism (copy paste).
User: Cryptomint9
Post link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5305488.msg55986545#msg55986545
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Also, this topic without source is translated and is in the Pakistani section

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg55995805#msg55995805
https://web.archive.org/web/20210102065550/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg55995805

Is the whole topic still missing proving that this account is constantly copying everything from the Internet?

Good catch @lovesmayfamilis. I also don't understand why this user isn't banned already. I just reported all the posts you mentioned again and hope the moderators will take some action soon.

I think plagiarism rules need an update. It's not that difficult to start a copied text with "I copied/translated this from xx", followed by quote-tags.

Agreeing 100%! That would be a great idea. I honestly can not understand why many users find it so difficult to indicate the original source.

[LoyceV]

I honestly can not understand why many users find it so difficult to indicate the original source.

Bitcointalk is the only forum I frequently visit that even cares about plagiarism, and in many cases it's just very convenient to quickly show a certain text. For as long as I can remember "the internet" is just a place where people just copy content from other places. Some people even used it as a stepping stone to become billionaires.
Let's face (pun intended) it: most people simply don't care.

[Rikafip]

I honestly can not understand why many users find it so difficult to indicate the original source.

Bitcointalk is the only forum I frequently visit that even cares about plagiarism, and in many cases it's just very convenient to quickly show a certain text.

My experience is exactly the same, bitcointalk is the only forum that I know where plagiarism is taken seriously. But, even on other forums, reputable and experienced members simply  don't plagiarize (and when I say they don't plagiarize that means they are also formatting copied text properly) no matter the rules. That is just matter of basic posting etiquette and I wish more people realize that.

That would be a great idea. I honestly can not understand why many users find it so difficult to indicate the original source.

I see at least two reasons:

• Ignorance. For many this is the first forum they ever used so they don't know what's the proper way to deal with copied material and how to format copied text properly.
• Merit fishing. If you indicate right from the beginning that what you are sharing is copied material, chances for merit goes down. Especially if you don't add anything of your own.

[lovesmayfamilis]

@lovesmayfamilis I know that it probably won't have any effect, but have you tried contacting @Cryptomint9 (beside leaving him neutral tag), explaining him that what he is doing is wrong and that he should stop with this because he will most likely get banned? I know that ignorance is not a valid reason for breaking the forum rules, but I am just curious why he keeps doing the same thing.

I did not write to him in a personal, but several times left messages in his threads. I don't know what to do with it. Probably, to stop his plagiarism, I need to pay him, maybe then he will become more attentive to the rules.
But seriously, I have doubts about its adequacy.

Try to be honest, and first, it is important for yourself. You probably already noticed that I closely follow your posts. And posing as either Spaniard or Pakistani, it is important to remain who you are.
You were lucky. You were not banned. Now, try to think with your head. Study bitcoin, and not news search,  translate the same thing over and over again. While this is not bad, you should not pass off the fact that you have taken from the Internet as for your thoughts and advice. It doesn't work here.
In any case, stay safe, and respect those who are on this forum next to you.

Make a wish to be honest on the forum and not fool all members of the forum by assigning other people's articles, translating, and not posting links to the owners of these articles.
Perhaps on Christmas Eve you will have an understanding or a conscience will wake up, and you will stop plagiarizing. And to all newcomers who are "helped" by the OP today, I also advise you not to chase a freebie, but to learn to think with your head.
Happy Holidays!

And what a shame, he read it and continues to copy. Do you think this is normal?

Make a wish to be honest on the forum and not fool all members of the forum by assigning other people's articles, translating, and not posting links to the owners of these articles.
Perhaps on Christmas Eve you will have an understanding or a conscience will wake up, and you will stop plagiarizing.

I have seen you have reported my posts and I really thank to you that you have given a knowledge because I don't know much more about this forum.
And better is that always learn from the mistakes.
And I have learnt. I will never make this mistake again.
I will make a topic if I have full knowledge about it otherwise not.
And thanks for reporting and for giving me a right way.

    

[Rikafip]

I did not write to him in a personal, but several times left messages in his threads. I don't know what to do with it. Probably, to stop his plagiarism, I need to pay him, maybe then he will become more attentive to the rules.
But seriously, I have doubts about its adequacy.

Then you did what you could, and he can't even say that he didn't know about the issue (not that would absolve him anyway) as he continued doing the same thing, and probably won't stop until he gets banned. To quote one line from a classic movie, "Some men you just can't reach".

I also reported  to mods that last plagiarism case, hopefully that helps and he gets removed from this forum. At least until he comes back with a new account.

[Lucius]

Bitcointalk is the only forum I frequently visit that even cares about plagiarism, and in many cases it's just very convenient to quickly show a certain text.

I may be wrong, but I am not aware that there is another forum that allows its users to make money just by participating in various discussions. As we could see in that big wave of banned users, a significant percentage of them just went down the line of the least resistance and instead of the original content engaged in plagiarism. If this rule was not so strict, I am sure that many would still pretend to be smart members by presenting other people's achievements as their own.

I also reported  to mods that last plagiarism case, hopefully that helps and he gets removed from this forum. At least until he comes back with a new account.

Since the user has publicly thanked for the warning and promised not to repeat the same mistake, and he still does - I don't think he understands what plagiarism is, there is no other explanation. It seems that I will also join those who will report his posts, because it is really not clear to me that there is still no penalty for and more than an obvious violation of the rules.

[Rikafip]

Since the user has publicly thanked for the warning and promised not to repeat the same mistake, and he still does - I don't think he understands what plagiarism is, there is no other explanation. It seems that I will also join those who will report his posts, because it is really not clear to me that there is still no penalty for and more than an obvious violation of the rules.

That would be a logical conclusion given his behavior and ignoring the warnings, but based on his post history somehow I think that he is perfectly aware of what he is doing. In the last month or so since he registered, he created more than 20 topics and you will agree that's quite a lot for a new forum member. My guess is that this is just an older user trying to farm the merit and somehow get to signature campaign once he reaches at least Member rank.

So far he had more luck than brain to avoid ban for plagiarism, but I hope that changes soon and he gets what he deserved weeks ago.

[Cryptomint9]

@lovesmayfamilis I know that it probably won't have any effect, but have you tried contacting @Cryptomint9 (beside leaving him neutral tag), explaining him that what he is doing is wrong and that he should stop with this because he will most likely get banned? I know that ignorance is not a valid reason for breaking the forum rules, but I am just curious why he keeps doing the same thing.

I think plagiarism rules need an update. It's not that difficult to start a copied text with "I copied/translated this from xx", followed by quote-tags.

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Either expand the plagiarism rule or at least forum staff should start deleting all those copy/pasted walls of texts that weren't formatted properly. Rule nr 1 says "No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads." so there is already basis for deletion.

This is the right way. I don't know why they are just trying to catch me. If I am adding something good and informative and trying to give a good information so how it can plagiarism.
One more thing if I am making a post by getting data from different websites so I am making easy to the members like they will not go through all. They will get the whole information from one post.
If this is plagiarism so listen all of you (is am are and other simple words) also plagiarism.
Thanks and enough.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I'm right. And many times I'm right! I didn't plagiarize. BLA BLA

When copying, as you say, "useful information" you must have the author of this information and the presence of a link from where you copied. And everything that you decided to “teach”, you once again pass off as your own “work”.
Is it possible that all the "valuable" information that you have hard-won belongs to you? Or are users so stupid that they can't read and find them on their own?
Why is the entire forum obliged to live by the rules, and you decided to adjust them as it is convenient for you?

[Rikafip]

If I am adding something good and informative and trying to give a good information so how it can plagiarism.

Maybe Lucius was right and you really don't understand what plagiarism is, so let me explain you.

Every time you are copying someone else's work without providing link to the original source, you are plagiarizing. Furthermore, when you are copying someone else's text  you are supposed to put those parts inside quotation marks so it is immediately obvious to everyone which are your own words and which are copied parts.

An example: You stumbled upon an interesting article and you want to share it with bitcointalk members. Proper way is to copy paragraph or two (and properly format it using quotation marks), share the link to the article and then you leave your own personal opinion on the matter. There is  no need to copy whole article, as those interested can always read the article on the website.
 

[Cryptomint9]

I know soon I will get banned soon because many members are now against me.
Hahaha!
But thing is that all have no knowledge how to guide.
Thanks for reporting dear friends I was thinking that this forum will help me more and give me more information and it gave and I collected.
But the members have no knowledge that how to guide a person or new members they just try to show plagiarism and they don't want the new persons and they think that the newbies only come for the merits.
I was also thinking that but I leave that idea.
And I was thinking to give knowledge which I think that is best.
And do you know about this how much a good post take time.?
I try to collect more and more data. My last post which all of you are saying that is plagiarism haha! It takes 2 days.
The portion which she mentioned as plagiarism. I searched first and check that is this the correct data? And one more thing I didn't get this data from this article which she has mentioned.

Anyways I have seen that you all have no knowledge how to guide a person. Some of you guide me very well and I appreciate them with the comment.
Thanks to all.  
Its your forum make it good for you.
I have lost my hope to get knowledge.

[Cryptomint9]

An example: You stumbled upon an interesting article and you want to share it with bitcointalk members. Proper way is to copy paragraph or two (and properly format it using quotation marks), share the link to the article and then you leave your own personal opinion on the matter. There is  no need to copy whole article, as those interested can always read the article on the website.

That is the way to teach. Thanks for sharing.
But now I know these are my last days.
So I can't say that I will try to my best to right the post like you teached.

[DdmrDdmr]

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Plagiarism accusations here is avoidable, simply by adding a reference to the source. Ideally, one should be clear near the beginning of the posts on whether the posts are copied or translated – that would seem like a normal thing to do to contextualize the information thereafter provided. Lacking the prior indicators, one cannot tell whether the intention is informative or appropriative in nature.

Regardless, you did perform a copy/google translate/paste on a few posts on the Spanish local board. You haven’t though posted any comments there that I’m aware of, so it’s not possible to assert whether you do or don’t know the Spanish language. It would be one hell of a weird thing to do if you do not master the language...

[JohnBitCo]

Anyways I have seen that you all have no knowledge how to guide a person. Some of you guide me very well and I appreciate them with the comment.
Thanks to all.  
Its your forum make it good for you.
I have lost my hope to get knowledge.

You have been on the forum for a month and this time is enough for anyone to know the rules of the forum. Also there are no second chances for plagiarism specially when you are doing it multiple times and also trying to translate articles in your local language so no one can catch you.
You are not so innocent as you are trying to show after being caught.

[Cryptomint9]

Anyways I have seen that you all have no knowledge how to guide a person. Some of you guide me very well and I appreciate them with the comment.
Thanks to all.  
Its your forum make it good for you.
I have lost my hope to get knowledge.

You have been on the forum for a month and this time is enough for anyone to know the rules of the forum. Also there are no second chances for plagiarism specially when you are doing it multiple times and also trying to translate articles in your local language so no one can catch you.
You are not so innocent as you are trying to show after being caught.

Haha!
Thanks dear. Thanks for your comment on me.
Yes I am not innocent.

[Cryptomint9]

And if you all are thinking that I am making the good posts only to get merits so
So keep all merits in your pocket I don't want them I just want knowledge.
If I will find a good article so I will share it with you with the link.

Many of you think that the newbies only come for the merits or for the bounty you might be right but keep in yourind that five fingers are not equal.

[JohnBitCo]

And if you all are thinking that I am making the good posts only to get merits so
So keep all merits in your pocket I don't want them I just want knowledge.
If I will find a good article so I will share it with you with the link.

Many of you think that the newbies only come for the merits or for the bounty you might be right but keep in yourind that five fingers are not equal.

I think you are still not getting the point there.

There is nothing wrong if newbies search for merits (by quality posting) and also if anyone want to hunt bounty, he can do so. But what you are doing is plagiarism which is not allowed.

[Rengga Jati]

Whether this moderator or forum allows it or not, basically this is included in plagiarism translation. namely where we take text from a source and then change it to another language, use or post it without including the source link. This is clearly plagiarism.
As I quote from Translation Plagiarism: A Modern Day Concern:

Whether you are familiar with the term or not, translation plagiarism is a relatively new way that individuals are copying another’s written work. It involves taking written content and translating it to another language in hopes of reduced plagiarism detection.

Maybe we need to report more about this kind of thing.
Or maybe the moderator did not detect the same text because it was only briefly so that plagiarism did not appear.

[FatFork]

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Many of you think that the newbies only come for the merits or for the bounty you might be right but keep in yourind that five fingers are not equal.

You're wrong. You can't possibly know what many of us think, and there are countless examples of newbie members making good progress on the forum with their positive contributions and engagement. Well, we were all newbies at some point.

But violating the forum rules is not the way to go. And you're still doing this. You're making multiple posts in a row, even though you should know it's against the rules.