Looking for others input....... It's a bit long but really would help

[jasonbourne212]

OK, I'm curious to see if others think I'm not being rational, bc if thats the case, then I'm clearly seeing it wrong.    So, the scenario....

I cashed out 1.8 Litecoins from mbitcasino, and when I put my wallet in, I accidently put in satoshibones wallet address.... So in essence, (I know, im stupid, lets get past that, lol)   one casino placed a bet on another casinos site, and it lost....
If it would have won, I would hope (or at least expect) them to return the winnings to the other site, but since it lost, It seems like satoshibones just received coins accidently into their wallet.   

Now, I contacted them both, and I showed the owner of satoshibones that it wasn't actually my wallet they came from, but in fact the wallet owned by mbitcasino....   I also sent screenshots of my withdrawal to that address, etc....   

Am I wrong to think that I should get at least most of them back.....   It was my mistake, so if there was some penalty, I guess I would understand, but it just seems like it's my money, that was sent to a casino site by accident, so it should just be returned?   I'm trying to see it from the other side anyway i can, because what if the bet would have won?   Would mbitcasino return the money they just got for free to the owner?   


I am a frequent player on the site, but to be honest, I actually don't think that's relevant......   I would hope that the owner of any site, if they just received money not intended to go to them, they should return it, if they were positive everything was legitimate......And I would hope that would be the case if it was a brand new player or a life long loyal player......


The site owner on satoshibones got mad that I'm "nagging" and they need to think about it.....   (So lets say they think about it, and we'll obviously put the nagging to the side, am I being unreasonable??)


Any thoughts would help 

[janggernaut]

This is my opinion, but you can't get your money back whatever the reason. Since you have admitted your mistake, it's clearly you realized if it was your own fault. You can't keep asking/nagging with satoshibones (bitzzilions, for now) about your deposit. Since any deposit in satoshibones/bitzillions will be automatically played once it arrived, you can't do much about your money, especially when your bet ended lose.

I think you already know what i'll want to say, always double check your destination address when you want to withdraw your money.

[traderethereum]

If I am the owner, I will not reply to anything if the player made that mistake because it is useless.
That is their fault, and the casino is not responsible for that, and that is why when gamblers want to withdraw their money, they need to double check the wallet address and the amount of the money.
You already confess that it is your fault, but you still ask them to help you refund the money.
But if you still want to do that with both owners, I am afraid that they will not give you the money.

[ralle14]

That's up to them if they want to help you or not but in most cases you won't get anything back even if it won. Like janggernaut said everything is automatic on their end and if it was the other way around you should be contacting the casino you withdrawn from since they're on the receiving end of it.
 
Its like sending coins in an exchange but you copied the wrong address and now you're asking for help to get it back.

[boyptc]

You withdrew on mbitcasino and deposited that LTC to satoshibones address accidentally. Well, it's evident that satoshibones doesn't have any responsibility for your mistake and negligence.

You are lucky if they will give you the favor but most likely, there's no hope with what happened to you. Sorry.

[Ucy]

Did you mistakingly placed bet from one site to another while trying to withdraw 1.8 Litecoins  or you just unintentionally placed bet on a casino through a different site?
I think if the site has provided the service and the coins you sent to the casino for the service is the actual amount they charge for such service, then the casino did nothing wrong by not returning the money to you. And if casino didn't decieve you to unintentionally place the bet then it did not wrong you.
This now depends on whether the casino has gone through the case (which you said is unintentional) and know whether you are telling the truth or not... And maybe consider you alittle. But if the casino decides not to go through the case, it is still within the owner's right.

[Pmalek]

I am not sure exactly how SatoshiBones works, but are you saying that the money you accidently deposited from mBit casino to the SatoshiBones wallet was used to make an automatic wager on your behalf? Is that a standard thing for SatoshiBones? Whether or not that is how it should be, each platform you deposit money to probably has a minimum wagering requirement to protect against coin mixing and money laundering. I doubt they will return your funds, and lose money in the process as they are paying the transaction fees. The wager was lost any way so there is nothing to return. Better luck and more care next time.    

[Maus0728]

In every cryptocurrency transaction, the general rule when it comes to deposits and withdrawal is to to double check that specific address before executing it or else you'll never get it back or much worse it will be lost permanently.

one casino placed a bet on another casinos site, and it lost....
If it would have won, I would hope (or at least expect) them to return the winnings to the other site, but since it lost, It seems like satoshibones just received coins accidently into their wallet.

This doesn't make sense! If you accidentally pasted an address that comes from satoshibones then it means you have an an existing account on that site thus you are also able to transfer your litecoins back to the correct litecoin address that you intended to transfer in the first place isn't it?

[avikz]

I cashed out 1.8 Litecoins from mbitcasino, and when I put my wallet in, I accidently put in satoshibones wallet address....

Shit happens! If Satoshibones owner reconciles his account, the transaction can be found. But I am not sure they would take such effort for your mistake! 1.8 litecoins means roughly 200 USD, so if possible, forget about it! Sadly crypto casino industry is not regulated by any central authority and there is no ombudsman available. So forgetting about it, is the best way forward!

So in essence, (I know, im stupid, lets get past that, lol)   one casino placed a bet on another casinos site, and it lost....
If it would have won, I would hope (or at least expect) them to return the winnings to the other site, but since it lost, It seems like satoshibones just received coins accidently into their wallet. 

I really don't understand this point! How can some casino place a bet on another casino using your money! I believe I am misunderstanding your statement here!

[s0lidus]

Am I wrong to think that I should get at least most of them back.....   It was my mistake, so if there was some penalty, I guess I would understand, but it just seems like it's my money, that was sent to a casino site by accident, so it should just be returned?

Yes, you're wrong to think that they should return your funds. It's your mistake, you're the one who placed a bet by accident. Shit happens, move on. Next time double check addresses when making a transaction. I mean, if you had send the funds to a random address not owned by you, you'd also not be able to get your coins back.

I'm trying to see it from the other side anyway i can, because what if the bet would have won?   Would mbitcasino return the money they just got for free to the owner?  

This is not relevant as you didn't win.



I would also recommend you to move this topic to Gambling Discussion board.

[acroman08]

I cashed out 1.8 Litecoins from mbitcasino, and when I put my wallet in, I accidently put in satoshibones wallet address....

Shit happens! If Satoshibones owner reconciles his account, the transaction can be found. But I am not sure they would take such effort for your mistake! 1.8 litecoins means roughly 200 USD, so if possible, forget about it! Sadly crypto casino industry is not regulated by any central authority and there is no ombudsman available. So forgetting about it, is the best way forward!

So in essence, (I know, im stupid, lets get past that, lol)   one casino placed a bet on another casinos site, and it lost....
If it would have won, I would hope (or at least expect) them to return the winnings to the other site, but since it lost, It seems like satoshibones just received coins accidently into their wallet. 

I really don't understand this point! How can some casino place a bet on another casino using your money! I believe I am misunderstanding your statement here!

I think he mistakenly used one of the of bet address on the satoshibones website where it will be placed as a bet instead of a deposit. I don't completely understand their system but there is a FAQ on their website that you can read you might understand more than I did.

[leea-1334]

Sorry OP but you seem in the wrong here. You realized the mistake but you still placed the bet if I read it correctly,,, which means that you still made a bet, regardless of the money source. You lost. End of story, right?

[kryptqnick]

I'm not 100% sure if I got it right, but you had money in one casino, and then withdrew it to a different casino, automatically placing a bet with it? Since you lost the bet, why would anyone give any money back to you? From the perspective of the casino, you placed the bet and lost, right? So the money is theirs. If you won the bet, I'm not sure how it would go because I don't know the rules of these websites, but I'd say they would be supposed to credit your win either to your account on the website where you won the bet (if there's a wallet there) or to the address from which you've placed the bet (the wallet in another casino). But again, I might be missing something here, so your clarification would be helpful.

[Haunebu]

Heard of mbit, but never heard of the other site before. This is a tricky situation to be honest. I think you aren't entirely in the wrong here, but the same can be said about the sites that you mentioned.

Since you initiated the TX, you are at a disadvantage. Casino sites do make exceptions in these cases, but you already tried and the site owner accuses you of nagging which is why there isn't anything else that you can do here.

Learn from this mistake and try to not repeat it in the future. Just my 2 cents.

[decodx]

I think he mistakenly used one of the of bet address on the satoshibones website where it will be placed as a bet instead of a deposit. I don't completely understand their system but there is a FAQ on their website that you can read you might understand more than I did.

Yes, that's probably what happened here since the OP said, "one casino placed a bet on another casino site." That's terrible, but I don't think much more can be done about it.

I recall a time when I lost some funds myself due to my mistakes in copying/pasting wrong addresses. I think the OP will have to accept that he's been taught a lesson here and move on.

[jasonbourne212]

I think he mistakenly used one of the of bet address on the satoshibones website where it will be placed as a bet instead of a deposit. I don't completely understand their system but there is a FAQ on their website that you can read you might understand more than I did.

Yes, that's probably what happened here since the OP said, "one casino placed a bet on another casino site." That's terrible, but I don't think much more can be done about it.

I recall a time when I lost some funds myself due to my mistakes in copying/pasting wrong addresses. I think the OP will have to accept that he's been taught a lesson here and move on.

Yes, you are right that is what happened, it just was with the Litecoin site, not the BCH site....  Ive accepted the loss....  The site owner wont reply bc I emailed too many times...  So I did get the hint.....

But, whats really crazy is, the site owner (i feel like) has just become vengeful at this point.   I placed a bet on the dogecoin site earlier, and it didn't register, (which has happened before, and after I send an email i used to get a reply with it being fixed, this time i get no reply and they sent me the winning but with a fee too small for it to get confirmed!!   I'll assume you don't believe me, so here is the transaction, so you can see for yourself....   )   This is just insance,   

(This is actually the last response I got...... "Exactly, it's Christmas.  I'm not well.  I told you to give me some time.  Nagging me is not helping at all.  I will look into this in the coming days when I am up to it. "





Now, heres the dogecoin transaction that was sent after i emailed it didnt register......   why any site would do this is BEYOND me....  It will get rejected in 2 weeks, unless on the off chance it does confirm in 4 or 5 days, and this is one that was sent manually!



https://dogechain.info/tx/73bd9d733351c2d0c3850ed6ecc56c358c359359e29e8bfa5c3ed03910b35fc4



If ANYONE can give a good explanation on why they would do this, please let me know, bc I cant think of one

[jasonbourne212]

Sorry OP but you seem in the wrong here. You realized the mistake but you still placed the bet if I read it correctly,,, which means that you still made a bet, regardless of the money source. You lost. End of story, right?

Yes, the only thing I will say is i didnt realize i made a mistake and "Still placed the bet"   so even if it would have won, it wouldn't be sent back to me, the winnings just shootback directly to the wallet it came from, which was mbitcasinos wallet, not mine....   

however, I accepted the loss, and really regret overflowing the site owner with all 7 emails,

[jasonbourne212]

OK let me backtrack my last post because its not rational.....    I jumped the gun when i saw it,   What happened is with dogecoin about a month ago the miners put some like guidelines down to elimiate zero fee transactions.... 

so they now wont mine any transaction unless you send 1 doge for a tx up to 1000 bytes, 2 doges up to 2,000 and so on....

So its not rational to think that the site owner sent just under the requirement on purpose.....    I see that now that im not mad... lolol   



And its possible they are very sick (there is a virus going around, lol) and is not just ignoring my emails.....    So scratch my last statement, its not based in reality....   i think im just paranoid, and mad, and i really hate the holidays on top of that.....   Ill update later on

[nakamura12]

You won't be able to get your money back since you said that satoshibones will do a bet on your behalf when you deposited in satohibones also you said that the bet ended in lose. So, no matter how many times you contacted both sites getting your money back is impossible.

[mardaed]

OK let me backtrack my last post because its not rational.....    I jumped the gun when i saw it,   What happened is with dogecoin about a month ago the miners put some like guidelines down to elimiate zero fee transactions.... 

so they now wont mine any transaction unless you send 1 doge for a tx up to 1000 bytes, 2 doges up to 2,000 and so on....

So its not rational to think that the site owner sent just under the requirement on purpose.....    I see that now that im not mad... lolol   



And its possible they are very sick (there is a virus going around, lol) and is not just ignoring my emails.....    So scratch my last statement, its not based in reality....   i think im just paranoid, and mad, and i really hate the holidays on top of that.....   Ill update later on

This situation and the events happening around us will possibly take toll on all of us. It’s saddening to hear that this has to happen, but still we all learned a thing two from this. It’s so brave of you to admit and accept your fault, and now it will depend on the decision of the other end if they will try to compensate with you. Please do make updates so we may be all enlightened about this type of situations.