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March 25, 2014, 06:41:08 PM
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Why there is a Clone of bitcointalk.org in the web?

https://bitcointa.lk/
It contains copies of all posts from Bitcointalk.org.
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March 25, 2014, 07:13:39 PM
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It's the NSA's backup lol.
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March 25, 2014, 07:29:45 PM
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Hi, i coded Bitcointa.lk. Announcement thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=515932.0
I always hated how Bitcointalk.org was administrated (or how it was not administrated at all), so i woke up one day and decided to do something.

Short features list:
-Real time synch of every message
-Posts removed on Bitcointalk.org are marked as removed on Bitcointa.lk, but you can still read them; you can also see a history of deleted messages
-You can use it to post on Bitcointalk.org (i personally do it); it would become your gateway to access Bitcointalk.org

And naturally, i did it for free and i didn't spent a million dollar in the process.
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My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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March 25, 2014, 07:58:17 PM
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Uhm ok ...

I will stay here @bitcointalk...
For me it is very well administrated ...
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March 25, 2014, 08:03:43 PM
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To each his own Smiley
However, you know my point of view Wink


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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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March 26, 2014, 12:40:52 AM
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Its a backup of all posts + its beautiful!

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March 26, 2014, 12:46:55 AM
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Its a backup of all posts + its beautiful!

For me it is not very good that you can read deleted posts ... some of them were dangerous  - scam, phishing, etc.
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March 26, 2014, 12:48:03 AM
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Its a backup of all posts + its beautiful!

For me it is not very good that you can read deleted posts ... some of them were dangerous  - scam, phishing, etc.

Well its really useful for self moderated threads. You can see exactly what people posted.

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March 26, 2014, 12:59:07 AM
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Its a backup of all posts + its beautiful!

For me it is not very good that you can read deleted posts ... some of them were dangerous  - scam, phishing, etc.

Well its really useful for self moderated threads. You can see exactly what people posted.

well from this point of view maybe yes.
... if it would be moderated and he would remove scam posts ... and leave only deleted posts from self moderated threads it can be even more useful. Isn't?

Anyway I really think Bitcointalk.org is no.1 and I never was @ better forum... And just in my opinion is that making a clone that "looks more fancy" and contains deleted post (what is not IMO as good as you know already) is nothing special and it might be even from some points not really nice from a point of view of users that deleted their post, because for example - they did posted their e-mails or something, that they recon they do not want to keep @ forum for some reason.

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March 26, 2014, 01:00:13 AM
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Its a backup of all posts + its beautiful!

For me it is not very good that you can read deleted posts ... some of them were dangerous  - scam, phishing, etc.

Well its really useful for self moderated threads. You can see exactly what people posted.

well from this point of view maybe yes.
... if it would be moderated and he would remove scam posts ... and leave only deleted posts from self moderated threads it can be even more useful. Isn't?

Anyway I really think Bitcointalk.org is no.1 and I never was @ better forum... And just in my opinion is that making a clone that "looks more fancy" and contains deleted post (what is not IMO as good as you know already) is nothing special and it might be even from some points not really nice from a point of view of users that deleted their post, because for example - they did posted their e-mails or something, that they recon they do not want to keep @ forum for some reason.



No one is saying you should use it... I love the current layout of bitcointalk, but some dont. Those who dont now atleast have an option.

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March 26, 2014, 01:03:28 AM
Last edit: March 26, 2014, 01:13:41 AM by cedivad
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Deleted content is only visible to registered (linked) users. So there is no "i accidentally posted my email address" problem.
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #pJeGZFI18BfrDwuA

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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March 26, 2014, 03:09:52 AM
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Hi, i coded Bitcointa.lk. Announcement thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=515932.0
I always hated how Bitcointalk.org was administrated (or how it was not administrated at all), so i woke up one day and decided to do something.

Short features list:
-Real time synch of every message
-Posts removed on [Suspicious link removed], but you can still read them; you can also see a history of deleted messages
-You can use it to post on [Suspicious link removed]

And naturally, i did it for free and i didn't spent a million dollar in the process.
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #aROgnmf7qUAOcdNM

Good job. I think the bitcointalk forum could do a much better job at attracting new bitcoin users. Now they come here and see a default simple machines forum with a few tweaks. It could be much more inviting and professional. Bitcointalk also has lots of funds to accomplish this from all of the donations that are now worth a small fortune.

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March 26, 2014, 04:19:02 PM
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I just wanted to say thank you to theymos for having decided to ban our crawler twice during the last 12 hours.
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My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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March 26, 2014, 04:20:49 PM
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I just wanted to say thank you to theymos for having decided to ban our crawler twice during the last 12 hours.
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How frequently does it poll? Possible it was auto-blocked as DoS.
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March 26, 2014, 04:31:25 PM
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How frequently does it poll? Possible it was auto-blocked as DoS.
It depends on the number of posts, however a total of < 50k requests/day over 5 IPs.
All together, around one per 2 seconds.

If it was auto blocked as DoS it's one thing, if he just decided to block the competition while this forum is left dying with unloading images, server errors everywhere and a 10 years old board, well, i expected that, but i still have no words.
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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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March 26, 2014, 04:51:16 PM
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I just wanted to say thank you to theymos for having decided to ban our crawler twice during the last 12 hours.
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #yUXGFN4tVExKSjIn

I don't think Theymos banned it, its a rather useful site, the moderation staff are using it to catch the people that are bump spamming, and then deleting their posts to get around the 24 hour bump limit.
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March 26, 2014, 05:04:31 PM
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I'm surprised to hear that it's used even from the staff. Smiley
I'm sorry for having complained, but I'm quite sure it was a manual ban.

I will just use it as an excuse to make the crawler smarter and able to detect when banned... It was in the todo anyway.
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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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March 26, 2014, 05:07:36 PM
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Your crawler is probably taxing on the server.  How often is it running, and how many pages does it load at once?
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March 26, 2014, 05:10:17 PM
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I just wanted to say thank you to theymos for having decided to ban our crawler twice during the last 12 hours.
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #yUXGFN4tVExKSjIn

I don't think Theymos banned it, its a rather useful site, the moderation staff are using it to catch the people that are bump spamming, and then deleting their posts to get around the 24 hour bump limit.

Haha, sneaky bastards.

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March 26, 2014, 05:13:28 PM
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It has been running just fine for a month now, and the server handled it perfectly until lately (last 3 days?), when the forum started lagging, but that's not related to a change on my side.

Given that i own a website that has in the order of millions (5-10) hits per day (of non cached and dynamic content, not of gifs), i would be happy to give a suggestion or two on the infrastructure behind bitcointalk.org.
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My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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