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The technology Hedera is using is innovative. Big companies are using it; they have 10,000 TPS, and they have fixed transaction fees no matter what the congestion of the blockchain is. They are using EVM technology, so it is easy to move a project from Ethereum to Hedera. The project claims that it can solve blockchain trilemma, but their nodes are not public and is controlled by 39 companies, which makes it partially centralized. It has backing from companies like Google, and they won't let it fail that easily, but they need to keep up with the development of other projects, otherwise they will lose value.
Not only Hashgraph uses the EVM, but it also has a much more efficient consensus mechanism (a sort of DAG). This reduces transaction wait times and fees by a large margin. Being centralized itself, makes Hashgraph superior than ETH in terms of performance and cost-efficiency. However, this comes at a cost of lower uptime and censorship (single point of failure). You'd have to decide which Blockchain network is best depending on your needs. I see Hedera Hashgraph as the ideal "digital ledger" for businesses and companies alike. That's because of the way it was designed. For individuals, Ethereum would be the platform of choice. HBAR is still new to the industry, so we should give it more time to mature. Who knows how much it'll be worth in the future? Just my thoughts ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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The technology Hedera is using is innovative. Big companies are using it; they have 10,000 TPS, and they have fixed transaction fees no matter what the congestion of the blockchain is. They are using EVM technology, so it is easy to move a project from Ethereum to Hedera. The project claims that it can solve blockchain trilemma, but their nodes are not public and is controlled by 39 companies, which makes it partially centralized. It has backing from companies like Google, and they won't let it fail that easily, but they need to keep up with the development of other projects, otherwise they will lose value.
Not only Hashgraph uses the EVM, but it also has a much more efficient consensus mechanism (a sort of DAG). This reduces transaction wait times and fees by a large margin. Being centralized itself, makes Hashgraph superior than ETH in terms of performance and cost-efficiency. However, this comes at a cost of lower uptime and censorship (single point of failure). You'd have to decide which Blockchain network is best depending on your needs. I see Hedera Hashgraph as the ideal "digital ledger" for businesses and companies alike. That's because of the way it was designed. For individuals, Ethereum would be the platform of choice. HBAR is still new to the industry, so we should give it more time to mature. Who knows how much it'll be worth in the future? Just my thoughts ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Following Hedera's success, there are new projects coming to the market that also use DAG technology with upgraded features. Hashgraph is better than ETH in terms of cost efficiency and performance, but it cannot provide the security that ETH can offer. As I have already mentioned, the private node system makes it partially centralized, and if some of the node operators want, they can harm the ecosystem with a coordinated attack.
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Not only Hashgraph uses the EVM, but it also has a much more efficient consensus mechanism (a sort of DAG). This reduces transaction wait times and fees by a large margin. Being centralized itself, makes Hashgraph superior than ETH in terms of performance and cost-efficiency. However, this comes at a cost of lower uptime and censorship (single point of failure). You'd have to decide which Blockchain network is best depending on your needs. I see Hedera Hashgraph as the ideal "digital ledger" for businesses and companies alike. That's because of the way it was designed. For individuals, Ethereum would be the platform of choice. HBAR is still new to the industry, so we should give it more time to mature. Who knows how much it'll be worth in the future? Just my thoughts ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Not sure if ETH is a decentralized as it used to be....very interesting info here regarding ETH censorship. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AulxzTP0FV0Ethereum Is Dying (Sad) Bitcoin University Also ETH has the EEA just like HBAR has the governing council... https://twitter.com/LukeMikic21/status/1691239447688355841Luke Mikic⚡️🇸🇻🇦🇺 9-5 Escape Artist @LukeMikic21 Vitalik: “ALL the ETH L2 roll ups have back doors.” SoUnDs dEcEnTrAlIzEd. More .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVuJ_J-i1uo Vitalik's Many Backdoors (Ethereum Rollups) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFd24spWXCgEthereum Will Be Centralized Post Merge Son of a Tech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFpekio0j50Why Ethereum Is More Centralized Than Before
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Following Hedera's success, there are new projects coming to the market that also use DAG technology with upgraded features. Hashgraph is better than ETH in terms of cost efficiency and performance, but it cannot provide the security that ETH can offer. As I have already mentioned, the private node system makes it partially centralized, and if some of the node operators want, they can harm the ecosystem with a coordinated attack.
I think DAGs existed way before Hashgraph became "a household name". If I'm not mistaken, it all started with Nano (formerly known as RaiBlocks). The technology was perfected by other projects, particularly Hashgraph and IOTA. We now have several projects which make use of a DAG for high performance and cost-efficiency. Transactions settle almost instantly, while fees are practically zero. This is great for cross-border payments and even "De-Fi" applications. Unfortunately, DAGs are not as popular as traditional Blockchain networks such as Bitcoin and Ethereum. That's because they're fairly new to the scene. I'd give them more time to see what happens. Who knows if someday HBAR will climb all the way towards to top 5 coins in market cap? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Also ETH has the EEA just like HBAR has the governing council...
Ironic, isn't it? On one side, Ethereum wants to be the "decentralized platform for web applications", while on the other side, it wants to go along with business' own interests. Either ETH sacrifices decentralization in favor of high performance and cost-efficiency or all the other way around. It seems to me that the project chose the latter option with its transition to PoS. Things will only get worse as CEXs "hold all of the cards". After all, they're the major "stakeholders" of ETH (the cryptocurrency). There will be no difference between ETH and HBAR in the long run, thanks to the aforementioned entities. At least, the project is open source. With the original blockchain still with us (Ethereum Classic), we should have nothing to worry about. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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HBAR MC already at 1.6b, maximum gains maybe 10x to be extreme?
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Nobody care about your technology, if is the best or not in this space, the most important is how many people do your project make money. Hashgragh is a money grab project, so the upside was not high, most of those that invested into it realize this and were just looking to cash out
Hedera is actually the most decentralized because governance is actually handled by all these participating companies. And their terms are limited, so they can't be members forever. As a proof of stake, the power is not consolidated in the hands of a few like ethereum does. It's faster, greener, and cheaper. Yet there is another opinion: big companies in the GC don't produce revenue. Efficiency doesn't produce revenue. Nothing mentioning matters as long as Hedera isn't profitable, and Hedera could 10x their transaction volume overnight and they still would not be profitable despite being half a decade old. At this glacial pace of progress, Hedera will be lucky to hit 20 cents by 2026.
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The Hedera Hashgraph is an innovative DAG (Directed Acrylic Graph) that's directly compatible with Solidity-based smart contracts. Since the network itself has high transaction throughput, Hashgraph could become a fierce competitor against Ethereum in the future. Fees are ridiculously low, making "De-Fi" practical on Hedera Hashgraph. All it takes is for developers to migrate their ETH dApps into the Hashgraph DAG, for "HBAR" to become a big name in the crypto industry. It'll be an easy process considering that the network supports the Solidity programming language. It's like Ethereum on steroids. Yet, "HBAR" has a low price on the market. Maybe it's because people are not aware of its true benefits relative to Ethereum? Do you think Hedera Hashgraph is better than Ethereum? If not, why? Does it have a future? Is "HBAR" extremely undervalued these days? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If I look at his 24-hour trading volume, it's not bad at all https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/hedera, and it really has the potential to keep up with the bull run. Because it's no joke to have a volume of around 70 million dollars almost every day. That's why it doesn't seem like it's enough to say that it's better than Ethereum. I think HBAR still has a long way to go to catch up with Ethereum right now in the market. But I'm not closing myself off from investing here in HBAR because it can also give me a profit in the future somehow. In short, it is also good to be included in the holdings, in my opinion.
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https://twitter.com/hbar_to_moon/status/1720869466333134930BREAKING: #Hedera is breaking new ATH Network records: Total Transactions in 24 Hours: 200 MILLION Average TPS: 2.3K TPS Max TPS last 24 Hours: 7.3K TPS If you are not paying attention to Hedera and $HBAR, there is no better time to do it than now 🚀 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FF-HAzOHbAAApV6s%3Fformat%3Djpg%26name%3Dmedium&t=665&c=nBqb9vTDIAbGzw) Also.... https://www.onespan.com/about/news/onespan-unveils-quantum-safe-blockchain-storageStored on an immutable blockchain, organizations can now safeguard valuable documents against emerging technologies and security threats BOSTON – November 2, 2023 – OneSpan™ (NASDAQ: OSPN), the digital agreements security company, today announced a unique new capability to its market-leading e-signature solution, OneSpan Sign, to give organizations a better way to safeguard the provenance of a document against emerging security threats. The newest addition to OneSpan’s portfolio, Trust Vault, helps guarantee the integrity and long-term viability of documents on immutable storage based on blockchain technology, throughout the lifetime of the document. “As [long-time] partners of ProvenDB and users of Trust Vault, we are excited to see the integration of Trust Vault into the OneSpan portfolio,” said Christian Hasker, Chief Marketing Officer at Swirlds Labs, driving adoption of the highly scalable, secure and energy efficient Hedera blockchain. “AI, quantum computing, and other emerging technologies are creating unprecedented challenges to the trustworthiness of all forms of digital information, including digital agreements. No one security vendor can do it all, but some are clearly leading the pack. We believe that OneSpan Sign combined with Trust Vault will set a new standard for individuals and enterprises relying on the long-term viability and integrity of digital agreements and e-signatures.” Hedera current tps 2304.46 max tps 2626.18 Solana current tps 374.75 max tps 804.58 BNB Chain current tps 36.85 max tps 318.51 Ethereum current tps 11.50 max tps 57.91 Top tech like this will be in the top 5... The day isnt far when HBAR is easily doing over 1B TX daily.... No coin comes anywhere near this in terms of tps... Everyone will be talking about HBAR and many will regret not buying when it was under $1...and we here have the chance to get it in the 5cent area... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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HBAR unlocka happened over 24h ago...price is exactly 5cents....this isnt gonna last long...we all filling up bags...😋 Just saw this from June 25 https://www.cryptopolitan.com/chatgpt-and-hbar-integration-ai-blockchain/ChatGPT and HBAR Integration: The integration of ChatGPT with the Hedera network through a dedicated plugin allows seamless access to HBAR and token balances. Advantages and Potential: This fusion offers several benefits, including verifiable AI-generated content and fast, low-cost transactions.
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The Hedera Hashgraph is an innovative DAG (Directed Acrylic Graph) that's directly compatible with Solidity-based smart contracts. Since the network itself has high transaction throughput, Hashgraph could become a fierce competitor against Ethereum in the future. Fees are ridiculously low, making "De-Fi" practical on Hedera Hashgraph. All it takes is for developers to migrate their ETH dApps into the Hashgraph DAG, for "HBAR" to become a big name in the crypto industry. It'll be an easy process considering that the network supports the Solidity programming language. It's like Ethereum on steroids. Yet, "HBAR" has a low price on the market. Maybe it's because people are not aware of its true benefits relative to Ethereum? Do you think Hedera Hashgraph is better than Ethereum? If not, why? Does it have a future? Is "HBAR" extremely undervalued these days? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If I compare it to ethereum as a form of investment, literally speaking, it looks like I can get a big profit here compared to ETH, because not only is its daily volume good, but it is also so high that the market capital it achieved in the market can be compared. And there are also many exchanges where it is listed and will be added, from what I can see. Although I just heard of him now, 4 years ago, its ATL was around 0.009$ https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/hedera , and now it is at 0.1$ each something. Thanks for tackling this topic.
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If I compare it to ethereum as a form of investment, literally speaking, it looks like I can get a big profit here compared to ETH, because not only is its daily volume good, but it is also so high that the market capital it achieved in the market can be compared. And there are also many exchanges where it is listed and will be added, from what I can see. Although I just heard of him now, 4 years ago, its ATL was around 0.009$ https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/hedera , and now it is at 0.1$ each something. Thanks for tackling this topic. HBAR is relatively-new to the crypto/Blockchain space, which means there's ample room for growth. Not like Ethereum which is already mainstream and well-known by investors and traders alike. I believe HBAR is undervalued considering that it's 10x faster and cheaper than ETH. Perhaps, Hashgraph is even more efficient than the overhyped Solana chain. A stress test comparing both networks' performance would be ideal. The problem is that most VCs, and mainstream investors are only interested in ETH and SOL. HBAR is not as heavily-marketed as its competitors, anyways. Without a good marketing/promotion strategy, there won't be enough hype to "pump" market prices all the way to the moon. That's the way it works. It's not about the tech, but rather how speculative a crypto coin is. Why do you think "meme" coins are getting all of the attention these days? I bet if someone creates a "meme" coin on Hedera Hashgraph, HBAR's price will rise well above $0.10. Who knows? I'd buy and "hodl" HBAR just in case. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I think it is almost possible for Hashgraph to achieve more optimal quality, almost the same or even better than ethereum from the start, with several development options, making it more attractive by paying attention to the basic concept of the project, but the fact is that decision makers prefer ethereum because It is considered more comfortable to buy it for the long term.
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HBAR is relatively-new to the crypto/Blockchain space, which means there's ample room for growth. Not like Ethereum which is already mainstream and well-known by investors and traders alike. I believe HBAR is undervalued considering that it's 10x faster and cheaper than ETH. Perhaps, Hashgraph is even more efficient than the overhyped Solana chain. A stress test comparing both networks' performance would be ideal. The problem is that most VCs, and mainstream investors are only interested in ETH and SOL. HBAR is not as heavily-marketed as its competitors, anyways. Without a good marketing/promotion strategy, there won't be enough hype to "pump" market prices all the way to the moon. That's the way it works. It's not about the tech, but rather how speculative a crypto coin is. Why do you think "meme" coins are getting all of the attention these days? I bet if someone creates a "meme" coin on Hedera Hashgraph, HBAR's price will rise well above $0.10. Who knows? I'd buy and "hodl" HBAR just in case. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Unfortunately, hype is all the coin needs in order to pump. People mostly don't care about the efficiency or functionality of the blockchain. They are just here to make some quick money and move onto the next one. Right now, as things look, solana has a lot of hype. In fact, even Base probably has more hype than HBAR due to the meme craze
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Unfortunately, hype is all the coin needs in order to pump. People mostly don't care about the efficiency or functionality of the blockchain. They are just here to make some quick money and move onto the next one.
Right now, as things look, solana has a lot of hype. In fact, even Base probably has more hype than HBAR due to the meme craze
Didn't HBAR generate hype because of BlackRock's rumored launch of RWAs on the Hashgraph network? This "pumped" HBAR's market price for a short period of time. You're right that most people don't care about the tech. They only care about filling their pockets with money. I'm afraid developers are in the same boat by creating useless "meme" coins instead of focusing on true innovation. The market is turning into a speculative one instead of an utilitarian one. How I miss the good-old days. Hopefully, developers start taking things more seriously as "Wall Street" continues to pour money in the industry. Who knows where Solana will be in the future? As long as the project prioritizes decentralization and reliability, nothing else matters. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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