Ratimov plagiarizer and now trust abuser

[LoyceV]

I'll respond here because my name was mentioned. First: this isn't the first topic about Ratimov, and I think I've said everything there is to say about it already. I think Ratimov can/should improve on his references, but ultimately it's not up to me. If the forum doesn't ban him for it, he seems to have found a loophole to easily make long posts that many people appreciate.
That being said, after several topics calling him out for plagiarism his large Merit earnings have dropped significantly:

Merit received by Ratimov (Trust list) from January 24, 2018 until December 18, 2020 (source)

I also don't think Ratimov deserves negative feedback for this, as it doesn't mean he can't be trusted for trading.

I do think he's setting a bad example though, and I think plagiarism rules could be improved. So if anything, you may want to focus your energy on adjusting the rules in a separate topic (in Meta). You could use Ratimov as an example for your arguments, but don't make it about him.

Does DarkStar know he is paying for plagiarism

See:

Merit sent by DarkStar_ (Trust list) from January 24, 2018 until December 18, 2020 (source)
  1978. Tue Dec  8 20:49:15 2020: 5 (7201) to airfinex (Trust list) (history) for Merit Source - Plagiarist

I also don't like some of Ratimov's Sent feedback. It's retaliatory and goes against what I consider correct use of the Trust system. I get that several people created an alt account to call him out on this, and this is actually encouraged by theymos:

If you're hesitant to say something controversial because you don't want it to be associated with your name, please create an alt account and say it.

I always consider Trust inclusions and exclusions a bit of a "gliding scale": I usually don't (dis)agree with all ratings, but if the number gets too high, I might change my Trust list. I think I'm not alone in this, and Ratimov's DT-strength is already starting to decline a bit.

[ScumBuster]

That being said, after several topics calling him out for plagiarism his large Merit earnings have dropped significantly:

Proves my point he has not made single good post which he wrote. All his merit are from stolen work. Scum.

I also don't like some of Ratimov's Sent feedback. It's retaliatory and goes against what I consider correct use of the Trust system.

So exclude this trust abuser.

I think I'm not alone in this, and Ratimov's DT-strength is already starting to decline a bit.

I have updated first post to remove the names of the people who have removed Ratimov. All the others should still be excluded until they stop supporting trust abusers.

[ScumBuster]

Bumping to show more trust abuse

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297144.msg56465521#msg56465521
fxpc made post with direct quote from Ratimov bragging about making money from being a plagiarizer. Ratimov then leaves this trust feedback

Liar and troll. Distributes false information that I allegedly earn money on the forum in corruption schemes.

Trust abuse. Ratimov earns money from forum from being a plagiarizer. That is a fact. Even if you think plagiarizing is not corrupt, this feedback has nothing to do with trading risk. It is more trust abuse.

I will update list in first post that you can copy and paste to exclude Ratimov and everyone who includes this abuser.

Even just disagree with Ratimov now and he gives out negative trust. Such abuse. Such plagiarism. Such scumbag. Exclude him. Ban him.

Really bad look for chipmixer

[Timelord2067]

I've only just come across this thread.

I added three UID's to my trust list who were finalists in the "Newbie of the year" competition.  My choices were based on either their merit scores were off the charts, or like Ratimov, have contributed to the Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List ^{Mk III} thread.

He was warned by LoyceV about his copypaste and improper referencing 3 months ago.He ignored warnings, left us few bad feedbacks without any evidence and continued with same practice until airfinex started his thread.Then he got scared.His whole post history is full of topics like that.

This is the only mention of that user in this entire thread.

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=airfinex - 12/5/2020 6:25:10 PM    woke up

The OP:

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=ScumBuster - 12/5/2020 10:49:43 PM    woke up


@LoyceV 's Week 101:

https://loyce.club/trust/2020-12-19_Sat_04.07h/2508915.html

Trust list for: ScumBuster (Trust: awaiting update) (15 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-12-19_Sat_04.07h)
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ScumBuster Trusts these users' judgement:
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ScumBuster Distrusts these users' judgement:
-

ScumBuster's judgement is Trusted by:
1. NEW airfinex (Trust: awaiting update) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~ScumBuster's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. NEW Ratimov (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! ( 3042 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

TL;DR

ScumBuster and airfinex's entire post history is attacking @lovesmayfamilis and later @Ratimov.  They both wake up the same day within hours of each-other and in week 101 create DT trust lists - as of this week they both distrust four or five identical UID's.  (See also week 102)

Likewise, airfinex's sole user that trusts them, koks and marihuanna also creates their trust/distrust list in week 101.  Both have identical users they trust (and trust banned users too)

ScumBuster and koks and marihuanna have near identical distrust lists.


The three users who trust koks and marihuanna were last active 60 days ago.

Registration Date:7/22/2019 7:29:58 AM (Active 66 days ago)  -  koks and marihuanna

Registration Date:12/31/2020 6:23:33 PM (Active 60 days ago)   -  ssss57ssss2ss
Registration Date:12/31/2020 7:45:48 PM (Active 60 days ago)  -  RUtrolls
Registration Date:12/31/2020 8:19:09 PM (Active 60 days ago)   -  BIBInaX_Maksim_SOSI

Trust list for: koks and marihuanna (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2021-02-27_Sat_09.07h)
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koks and marihuanna's judgement is Trusted by:
1. ssss57ssss2ss (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. RUtrolls (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. BIBInaX_Maksim_SOSI (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)



Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

[airfinex]

It is foolish to compare me to this profile, but if you listed 10 people, I could say if I am on this list or not.

ScumBuster, Please refrain from posting in my topic.

You create FUD, and against the background of your messages people can perceive my arguments with disdain.

marcel

[eddie13]

Add me to the list for receiving a retaliatory exclusion..

[eddie13]

Umm guys..
We have a complete newb on DT1, who has been kicked from his sig camp for basically sig spamming/merit farming through the deceptive use of google translate (bordering on outright plagiarism), is throwing out shit negative ratings of nothing but personal insults for many of those who speak of it, shit positive ratings, and leaving retaliatory exclusions for basically anyone who says anything or excludes him..

Maybe it’s time for some ~Ratimov action ya think???


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5303363.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297144.0

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[NotATether]

All the most significant goals at this forum have been achieved, now can relax. Thanks to everyone who supported me and appreciated my posts.

Almost. I would very appreciate translations of Bitcoin Wiki pages into Russian.  

No really, it's a great idea. I wonder where most Russians read Bitcoin stuff from when most sites are in English?

[Kittygalore]

ScumBuster

Please provide examples of plagiarized content Ratimov made.

This content you wrote from the local board I cannot analyze,  i dont trust translations.

Having proofs for a local poster is really difficult as you don't have the necessary correct translation and machine translation misleads readers. I am neutral in this case as I don't know @Ratimov personally and most of the things that I know of him/her is from what I see in the posts that involves him/her. My take on this thing is for the people that accuses @Ratimov of plagiarism to provide proof as @bitmover says but we also need to have an indie translator so that there is no possibility of being bought of or being biased which solves @bitmover's problem about not trusting translations.

[ScumBuster]

If I wanted to, I would continue to earn 200-400 merit a month.

By plagiarizing.

Maintaining this pace of activity is very difficult. I spended 5-30 hours of my time on each topic or big guide.

30 hours to put a topic written by a different person in to Google translate? HAHAHAHahaha.

It's a pity that I have just read these vile posts from ScumBuster just now.

Keep going abusing trust, idiot. Writing about rape and pissing on people on trust. Nothing to do with trade risk. You sound like a brat child. You lost signature payment for your trust abuse and plagiarize. Next you lose DT position.

[eddie13]

If I wanted to, I would continue to earn 200-400 merit a month.

By plagiarizing.

Maintaining this pace of activity is very difficult. I spended 5-30 hours of my time on each topic or big guide.

30 hours to put a topic written by a different person in to Google translate? HAHAHAHahaha.

Quite difficult to string together the conclusion of Ratimov being honest..

[Excimer]

plagiarizing is violation of rules

user Ratimov should be banned

[eddie13]

Quite difficult to string together the conclusion of Ratimov being honest..

I think you will not suffer for long on this score and in the end you will come to humility.

We will see..

[The Sceptical Chymist]

We will see..

How long do you anticipate we'll have to wait until we see?  I assume you've reported one or more of Ratimov's posts as being plagiarized, and even if you didn't my guess is that the mods have seen this thread--and yet no action has been taken, and it's been 8 months since it was started.

As I said in a recent post, nobody here is a friend of mine, so if someone deserves a ban then they should get it (including Ratimov).  That doesn't take away from his excellent analysis of the alt account ring he researched and exposed, though.

[airfinex]

We will see..

How long do you anticipate we'll have to wait until we see?

The problem is that Ratimov has 400 created threads, and all these threads are translated from other people's articles, just check it out.

Therefore, it is impossible to find something in this heap of shit.

I do think he's setting a bad example though, and I think plagiarism rules could be improved. So if anything, you may want to focus your energy on adjusting the rules in a separate topic (in Meta). You could use Ratimov as an example for your arguments, but don't make it about him.

[airfinex]

A bold statement. I'll give you $5 000 if you can find the source of these threads that I recently created, since you boldly claim that all my threads are translations of other people. You can archive this post, and any trusted member of this community will confirm it.

Even if you really are the author of a couple of threads, then against the background of hundreds of translations you have published, it seems like a drop in the ocean. But so be it, I will accept your offer on the following conditions:

1. You will use escrow and deposit $ 5,000 to DarkStar_ , Royse777, DireWolfM14 or Nutildah, (I think you will not be charged a commission).
2. I will not rely only on those that you published, I will look for plagiarism in all the threads you created.
3. For everything, as you suggested, a week will be enough for me.
4. If anyone finds plagiarism and publishes evidence before me, that person will receive the award.
5. If I find plagiarism, I will win the bet, but I will send you proofs in PM so that you can correct your mistake.

You have the right to refuse the bet, I and everyone present here will understand this, (I hope you haven't lost your courage).

Marcel, Marie.

[GeorgeJohn]

I believe that any allegations alleged to someone suppose to have a concrete evidence, and besides if someone is been ban here base on his little error or a mistake, the reporter is not going go home with the community entirely, so i prefer when you notice a fellow user fault or lapses in the forum you as well pm the user for correction of his lapses in order to redeem it's account because no benefit of banning a reputable user.

I notice that the forum make us to relate with people we are not familiar with and at a point we become friends, i think being a brother's keeper or fellow user's watch dog will be of benefit than creating enemity that will leads to destroy another user reputation.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

A bold statement. I'll give you $5 000 if you can find the source of these threads that I recently created, since you boldly claim that all my threads are translations of other people. You can archive this post, and any trusted member of this community will confirm it.

Even if you really are the author of a couple of threads, then against the background of hundreds of translations you have published, it seems like a drop in the ocean. But so be it, I will accept your offer on the following conditions:

1. You will use escrow and deposit $ 5,000 to DarkStar_ , Royse777, DireWolfM14 or Nutildah, (I think you will not be charged a commission).
2. I will not rely only on those that you published, I will look for plagiarism in all the threads you created.
3. For everything, as you suggested, a week will be enough for me.
4. If anyone finds plagiarism and publishes evidence before me, that person will receive the award.
5. If I find plagiarism, I will win the bet, but I will send you proofs in PM so that you can correct your mistake.

You have the right to refuse the bet, I and everyone present here will understand this, (I hope you haven't lost your courage).

Marcel, Marie.

Quoting all of this for reference. 

I'm pretty sure Ratimov has been reported for plagiarism before, since these accusations aren't new.  And I'm assuming that the mods haven't found any merit in those claims, since he hasn't been banned yet.  Does anyone think I'm way off base in those assumptions?  I really have no idea whether Ratimov plagiarized anything or not, as I haven't delved into it myself (and if there's translation involved, I probably wouldn't be able to prove much with my skills). 

A bet was obviously proposed here, and I think the matter should be put to rest for once and for all--though I'm just a dispassionate 3rd party here; if I were Ratimov, however, I'd probably want to clear my name so that this accusation doesn't keep popping up.  I'm curious to see what the outcome is, if any.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I don't see any sense in wasting more time on this nonsense.

Fair enough; I don't have any problem with you, Ratimov.  However, there was a big brouhaha some months ago about you plagiarizing stuff, and there was evidence presented if I remember correctly--but I didn't pay it much attention at the time, because it was someone else's investigation and the translation aspect of it diverted my attention away from it.  The moderators not taking action against you also made me think the accusations were false, so I just forgot all about it.

You are correct, you don't need to clear anything up.  It's up to the accuser to prove wrongdoing, but I just figured you'd want this issue to go away forever.  It might anyway, who knows?  Anyway, I'm bowing out of this matter and will leave it to airfinex to do whatever he's going to do as far as presenting evidence of plagiarism and so forth.