Policies for newbies and other users.

[YOSHIE]

I have seen hundreds of accounts that did bad things for other users on this Bitcointalk forum, especially they stole some other user's social media accounts and signed up for the Bounty campaign, that's not good here.

There are some tips and suggestions to prevent the same thing from happening again.
For that, for "general" bitcointalk forum users, especially those who frequently participate in Bounty campaigns, if you find "Newbie" users who take your social media accounts, you can post them in the topic below.

Topic: [Newbie:] most evil on the Bitcointalk forums.

I will follow up on users who misbehave for other users.

Terms and Conditions:
1. Provide valid evidence if other users are using or stealing your social accounts to register for the campaign.
Kind of stolen.
• telegram
• Twitter
• Facebook
• Instagram
• Youtube
2. Archived everything you gave there.

Hopefully this can prevent some bad beginner behavior for other users on the Bitcointalk forum.

[AniviaBtc]

Users are unaware about the proper and improper actions or attitude here in this forum.

Yes, it is much better if you post those newbies who are asking for a social media accounts, by that we can somehow see those users who are doing that malpractices here. When they continue on doing that, they don't care about to make something worse which is really bad for the original user of those social media accounts.

Also Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and Youtube are the most used platforms in some crimes.

[Jawhead999]

Not only social media, an address could be targeted by the bad newbie with shady behavior just take example of this one [1]

It's much complicated to determine if he's fake newbie or his alt especially both of them are new registered or hacked account with high rank. I wish there's no case like this one because it's hard to made a decision.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265409.0

[YOSHIE]

Also Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and Youtube are the most used platforms in some crimes.

yes, i forgot to write it down, i will add to it.

Not only social media, an address could be targeted by the bad newbie with shady behavior just take example of this one [1]

That's what I mean, for those / victims who feel that their social account and Eth address is being used by other users, they can post it there or here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281161.msg55350201#msg55350201, After I publish this topic, maybe it can be verified, maybe some users who are victims can be considered here, before being reported to the famous Alt.

[20kevin20]

How about this?
please check, i am having a little trouble differentiating which is real and not
on the one hand they register in the same campaign, use the same social media, and also the same Ethereum address.

They're likely the same owner using multiple accounts. But trying to register to bounties/campaigns using different accounts while still registering under the same links is a bit of a nonsense, lol.

[lovesmayfamilis]

It would be nice to ask those users who have their account data stolen not to create a bunch of topics.
I always refer everyone to your topic. Not everyone reads the "reputation" thread, and only hear about this topic when they learn that their social networks are used not only by them.
For some reason, it seems to me that even now when you warned them, not everyone will hear. Bounty hunters are such "busy" people , working in dozens of bounties, they have very little time to study the forum.

[hugeblack]

especially they stole some other user's social media accounts and signed up for the Bounty campaign, that's not good here.

Sorry because I did not understand you but how can an account be stolen? As far as I know, people do not share passwords but rather links to tweets or Facebook accounts.
Also, it is not among the requirements that the account has a personal picture, so whoever has a problem with privacy can create an account that does not contain personal data.

Generally, newbie accounts are a big problem. It is better to bounty campaign to accept jr.members as lower-ranked

[YOSHIE]

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Yes, I saw a topic that was created in Reputation and you suggested, thank you.
With your ideas and suggestions that I am motivated to make this topic, maybe, some of them see it and do it there.

Sorry because I did not understand you but how can an account be stolen?

Stolen the crude language, which is more clearly used by other users, especially beginners who register in the bounty campaign, using other people's social accounts.

They are not stealing / hacking, just using and registering in the campaign, completely not knowing their purpose in doing that, what is clear is that other users feel aggrieved, if the manager finds the same social account being used by Newbie is not responsible.

[sportclub2010]

It turns out that these bad users pass off someone else's work as their own. They take someone else's social network account participating in the bounty campaign, register it, and write their own wallet for payment. So it turns out they also copy weekly reports from the one whose account they use 

Yes, this needs to be made public!

[baundul]

The name newbies refers to new members in the thread. But here maximum new accounts are created for old people for bounty. They do a signature campaign on the old account and do another bounty from the new account. Many newbie accounts are opened for scams or fraud. In the pain of all these accounts, those who are really new get lost.

[BIT-BENDER]

The name newbies refers to new members in the thread. But here maximum new accounts are created for old people for bounty. They do a signature campaign on the old account and do another bounty from the new account. Many newbie accounts are opened for scams or fraud. In the pain of all these accounts, those who are really new get lost.

I was once a newbie, you were also once a newbie, even staffs were newbies once, its the first rank, -brand new is giving Even with zero post-, look at the great-like in this forum And were they are, not all -Newbie- are scams, it is not the rank -Newbie- that is a scam, but/rather the scammer with the rank -newbie-

[lovesmayfamilis]

The name newbies refers to new members in the thread. But here maximum new accounts are created for old people for bounty. They do a signature campaign on the old account and do another bounty from the new account. Many newbie accounts are opened for scams or fraud. In the pain of all these accounts, those who are really new get lost.

Well, in something you are right. Old members start new accounts to increase their earnings. As long as it doesn't break the rules, nothing is forbidden. Many are practically hard to blame for having multiple alternative accounts, although most likely they exist.
But here the topic is about something else. And I very often meet with similar actions. New accounts, which are most likely controlled by some kind of bot, use other people's social media accounts. They only own the wallet address.
It has been verified many times that in fact, they do not get absolutely anything in this way. Since managers are clever at catching such cheaters. But the owners themselves, whose accounts are used by cheaters, are very worried, which I would not advise them. As described above, you can always prove who the real owner is.

[The Cryptovator]

We can't really prevent to do this kind of shady of behavior either newbies or old members. This is just an attempt to cheat on the campaign. I think campaign managers would reduce this type of behavior if they ask to verify their Bitcointalk account from the social account and it should be considered as proof of authentication. For example, participants would make a post like this from their social media account, "I am Coolcryptovator and this is my profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1980983". I know managers will not follow that, but they also should help this forum to keep clean.

[skarais]

I'm not sure your suggestion will be a solution to prevent another user's data from being misused by a newbie to join a bounty campaign. I don't see them as obedient people and they will continue to do that and this case has happened hundreds of times and is still happening. I think there are some newbie who do this on purpose for unknown purposes, it's very annoying.

Other user data thefts that are often abused by newbie to participate in bounty campaign usually include telegram username and bitcointalk account profile as well as bitcointalk account username. I even had to check the spreadsheet to see if my data was used or not.

If the campaign manager is proactive in preventing abuse then I don't think you should bother trying to investigate every bounty campaign to find that data thief to tag, just ask the manager to reveal the culprit's name in your thread. I thought it would be easier for you to mark it as cheating. I hope this will be the first suggestion to consider. For the second suggestion, new rules should be implemented by the manager of each bounty campaign so that they no longer accept newbie to join the campaign. This will prevent rogue newbie from committing bounty campaign scam.

[khaled0111]

I think campaign managers would reduce this type of behavior if they ask to verify their Bitcointalk account from the social account and it should be considered as proof of authentication.

Imo, this is the best solution to stop bounty cheaters and impersontators. Also, it will reduce the spam in bounty campaign threads as it won't be necessary to write authentication posts anymore. All the applicants have to do is to fill the google form with the link to their authentication tweets.
The problem is that most bounty managers are too lazy and don't care that much about the forum.

[Bholutefe]

Not all newbies are evil mind you, our motives and intentions are quite different, I joined this forum yesterday and am a newbie here and am delighted to find myself here with the hope of acquirng several aspect of bitcoin ideas especially the unknown parts of the  past discussions. It would be much more helpful if we help ourselves here and not bringing one another down, I agree that there are several things that am yet to learn and it would be of great delight if you all will be much more of help by leading me rightly and not in any forn of discouraging me.  Some newbies might have a shady intentions tho bet not in my own case, am open to mistakes correction and much more of knowledge acquisition.  Thanks.

[Smartvirus]

Not all newbies are evil mind you, our motives and intentions are quite different,

No one said all newbie users are evil or have bad intensions. I'll like to note that, not all newbies are newbies. Some are previously banned users,  a few create accounts to sabotage other users while others could be genuine newbies but then, the it's pre-eminent that most newbie users would want to earn and this alone is enough in driving most newbies towards doing some evil act such as stated in OP knowing that, accounts with more followers are easily accepted and tends to pay more than others. Those are the kind of newbies OP is hoping to get reported for a follow up.

At an early stage like this, a lot of claims can be made as per intensions or motives knowing that they can't be verified at the moment but it surely shows in the long run and fortunately, your not crucified fit it because, it breaks no law.
You just ensure it helps you and some worth favours the forum.

[YOSHIE]

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That's for sure, not all poisonous snakes are deadly, many snakes can still be conquered and are kind to other creatures.

Bottom line: if you feel yourself new to this forum and want to learn about crypto especially Bitcoin, welcome, no one judges you, that's better for you.
The important thing, do not cheat with Alt accounts and never take other members social accounts to participate in the campaign, one more obey and read the rules on this forum you are sure to be safe and you can find out more about Bitcoin.

no one pecked you with deadly poison.

[sujonali1819]

well! This might help but not too much because Only very few high ranked member are recently doing bounty. And we expect a report from the newbie account? I don't think the newbie will report it because most of the newbie is now claiming bounty with more than one account IMO. So they are always afraid about themself, LOL. That means they will try to avoid reporting others by thinking if they will have caught by others as cheating.

"I am Coolcryptovator and this is my profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1980983". I know managers will not follow that, but they also should help this forum to keep clean.

Agreed with this and already noted. I will really try to apply if I get any bounty campaign in the future.