All Canadians to be vaccined. Trudeau orders 40 million vaccines for 38 million

[BADecker]

can i just ask what 'benefits' do you think you get for having a corporate healthcare system. im actually interested in your opinion

Lower income taxes. Less dependency on government. Access to faster and higher quality services.

Since I know you’ll dispute my third point, read it again and then read this article: https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/07/15/american-health-care-treats-canadians-who-cannot-wait/

maybe instead of quoting some media site. you should quote the terms and conditions of your medical insurance policy.

yep the limitations and barred procedures list will make you think twice.
UK/canada doesnt have barred procedures
UK/canada doesnt make you have to choose between paying rent or medical co-pays
UK/canada doesnt make you have to choose between saving up for your kids college or having surgury
when you realise paying your monthly premium is actually a tax on your health. you soon learn your 'right to life' is in the hands of corporations

gotta love the long list of exceptions corporate healthcare have.

US has the highest amount of medical debt compared to any other country
UK/canada has no medical debt. no bill comes though their letter box

I debunked you a long time ago on this. All of it is creations of new money. If there is a debt, it's the bank that owes it back to the so-called borrowers.

Do some research.

[franky1]

I debunked you a long time ago on this. All of it is creations of new money. If there is a debt, it's the bank that owes it back to the so-called borrowers.

you have no clue how the money creation occurs. the bank creates the money on the agreement that the guy pays the bank at a later date. if the guy does not pay then the guy is in debt as thats the agreement.
get away from your freeman cult of thinking there is a secret trust that the guy allows the bank access to in creating money. that nonsense was debunked decades ago when the freeman nonsense first started

[BADecker]

I debunked you a long time ago on this. All of it is creations of new money. If there is a debt, it's the bank that owes it back to the so-called borrowers.

you have no clue how the money creation occurs. the bank creates the money on the agreement that the guy pays the bank at a later date. if the guy does not pay then the guy is in debt as thats the agreement.
get away from your freeman cult of thinking there is a secret trust that the guy allows the bank access to in creating money. that nonsense was debunked decades ago when the freeman nonsense first started

When you go to look at the bank ledgers, you will find out that it is different than you say. The promissory note is enter into the ledger just like it was cash or a check.

[franky1]

yes but the terms of the promissory note are clear
all credit agreements/loans/mortgages have clear terms and none of those terms are as you describe that mention people should get paid if they default on their agreement


.. anyway sidestepping back to the canadian/us health system differences..
strangely looking at the all death stats.. most americas die at home. i guess they were too afraid to go to the hospital.

.. anyway side stepping again back to the vaccine discussion in canada

if the vaccine was so dangerous. then we can easily see if the death rate per 100k populous that had vaccine vs deathrate per 100k populous of getting covid. and see which is better to get.. covid or vaccine

by the way. UK had 600k vaccinations in 3 weeks. and no one needed to be put onto ventilators. so far the vaccine is winning the odds

i just checked UK numbers. of those known to have covid- 600k cumulative was hit in first week of october
that same week of october a cumulative count of people needing hospital was 150k
so lets call it 25% needing extra care after getting covid
heck. lets be generous. lets account for the conspiracy exaggerated stat of 50% have it and dont know it.
thus lets call it 12.5% needing hospital care. just to be fair to idiots


lets see if the vaccine has way less hospitalisations.(i guarantee you it will)

[BADecker]

yes but the terms of the promissory note are clear
all credit agreements/loans/mortgages have clear terms and none of those terms are as you describe that mention people should get paid if they default on their agreement


.. anyway sidestepping back to the canadian/us health system differences..
strangely looking at the all death stats.. most americas die at home. i guess they were too afraid to go to the hospital.

.. anyway side stepping again back to the vaccine discussion in canada

if the vaccine was so dangerous. then we can easily see if the death rate per 100k populous that had vaccine vs deathrate per 100k populous of getting covid. and see which is better to get.. covid or vaccine

by the way. UK had 600k vaccinations in 3 weeks. and no one needed to be put onto ventilators. so far the vaccine is winning the odds

i just checked UK numbers. of those known to have covid- 600k cumulative was hit in first week of october
that same week of october a cumulative count of people needing hospital was 150k
so lets call it 25% needing extra care after getting covid
heck. lets be generous. lets account for the conspiracy exaggerated stat of 50% have it and dont know it.
thus lets call it 12.5% needing hospital care. just to be fair to idiots


lets see if the vaccine has way less hospitalisations.(i guarantee you it will)

It's absolutely impossible for them to default on their payments. They prepaid their loan with the promissory note. Since the loan is paid off, there isn't any loan to default on, and further payments are unnecessary.

There have been a few notes in the past (ages ago) that didn't stipulate the prepayment option. But the Uniform Commercial Code (in the USA) covers it by stating that if a person makes a payment, and the payment isn't accepted, the loan has to be canceled. So either way, the loan is prepaid.


As far as the Covid death and case counts...

The case counts have nothing to do with anything. Why? Because the PCR wasn't designed for diagnosing. And the other tests are inconclusive. And every test would be conclusive, anyway, because nobody seems to be able to come up with a proper isolation of the virus report.

Covid deaths aren't known because there was no isolation that we know of, and because the death statistics for Covid are mingled with all kinds of other deaths. The real statistics are unknown.


If the medical would get rid of all deaths statistics reporting as they do now, and instead simply lumped all deaths together, then it would look like a pandemic. I mean, how many people in the world die every year? It's like a pandemic of them, right?

So, get rid of the dishonesty and show the people that the world has been in a death pandemic since creation, and that the medical doesn't have the ability to do anything about it... except maybe make it worse.

[OgNasty]

can i just ask what 'benefits' do you think you get for having a corporate healthcare system. im actually interested in your opinion

Lower income taxes. Less dependency on government. Access to faster and higher quality services.

Since I know you’ll dispute my third point, read it again and then read this article: https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/07/15/american-health-care-treats-canadians-who-cannot-wait/

anyway.. out of curiosity
look at how much medical insurance you pay per month
look at how much income tax you pay.
then work out if all hospitals/doctors stayed the same but the bill went to the government and no longer your liability. how much income tax increase you think it will be
remember corporate insurances make profit. so think about the 'at cost' value you would pay/not pay
then think about the lack of 'exceptions' there would be and no having to remember which hospital to request to go to if unconscious to ensure your in coverage.

I haven't paid for medical insurance since 2013.  I guess I'm lucky that I haven't required any medical services in that period.  I may not always have that luxury, but if/when I do need major medical care I assume that I will have funds available for whatever surgery I need after saving so much money on taxes and insurance for such a long period of time.  Given that I will be paying out of pocket, the same way that Canadians who need expedited care would in the US, there would be no corporate insurance profits or 'exceptions' involved.  Just me, paying for the best and receiving the best without having to pay insane taxes or insurance.  I guess I'm old fashioned in that regard.  I don't need a government entity to budget my heathcare for me.  I'm perfectly capable to do so on my own.  Granted not everyone may have this option, but I'm also one of those crazy people who believe that natural selection should be a part of any species' evolution. 

[BADecker]

^^^ I haven't been to the doctor in almost 30 years. My "insurance" is God.

[squatz1]

can i just ask what 'benefits' do you think you get for having a corporate healthcare system. im actually interested in your opinion

Lower income taxes. Less dependency on government. Access to faster and higher quality services.

Since I know you’ll dispute my third point, read it again and then read this article: https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/07/15/american-health-care-treats-canadians-who-cannot-wait/

anyway.. out of curiosity
look at how much medical insurance you pay per month
look at how much income tax you pay.
then work out if all hospitals/doctors stayed the same but the bill went to the government and no longer your liability. how much income tax increase you think it will be
remember corporate insurances make profit. so think about the 'at cost' value you would pay/not pay
then think about the lack of 'exceptions' there would be and no having to remember which hospital to request to go to if unconscious to ensure your in coverage.

I haven't paid for medical insurance since 2013.  I guess I'm lucky that I haven't required any medical services in that period.  I may not always have that luxury, but if/when I do need major medical care I assume that I will have funds available for whatever surgery I need after saving so much money on taxes and insurance for such a long period of time.  Given that I will be paying out of pocket, the same way that Canadians who need expedited care would in the US, there would be no corporate insurance profits or 'exceptions' involved.  Just me, paying for the best and receiving the best without having to pay insane taxes or insurance.  I guess I'm old fashioned in that regard.  I don't need a government entity to budget my heathcare for me.  I'm perfectly capable to do so on my own.  Granted not everyone may have this option, but I'm also one of those crazy people who believe that natural selection should be a part of any species' evolution. 

I have to know what that’s like — not having or paying for medical insurance since 2013, that’s gotta be very interesting in regards to billing at even the regular physician. I’ve never been asked, if I’m paying with cash or a credit card, they just always ask me for my insurance card and then from there we deal with how I’m going to be paying for my copay.

Curious on how that works and if the process is smooth or if you had to jump from provider to provider to make all of this work. LMK.

Though I do think healthcare would be much cheaper if we didn’t inflate the prices to make insurance companies think they’re getting a deal. If we just had set prices for things that weren’t crazy, or setting different prices for all different people, I think we’d be in a pretty good place.

[Crptomagma]

The rules about the Covid19 is crazy. I fear for myself and my love ones because I don’t trust the vaccine to be honest 

[BADecker]

^^^ Time to admit that you aren't a Canadian living in Canada. You are simply a man/woman having been born on, and living on non-Canadian Government land. Just because somebody else wants to call you a Canadian doesn't make it so.

[TwitchySeal]

So if you decide against the vaccine you will just starve to death? This is not right.

No, this is just anti-vaxxers exaggerating reality so they can be outraged.

[tvbcof]

So if you decide against the vaccine you will just starve to death? This is not right.

This whole thing is driven by people who have money, and they have zero intent in becoming GMO's.  They are doing this thing to the useless eater classes as a means of controlling them so that they can maintain their position through the next economic shift.  So...

Ask yourself if you have the funds to afford a private jet.  If 'yes', then you can probably, if you play your cards/coins right, avoid the designer genetic material and still eat, fly, etc.  If 'no', then plan to assimilate into the borg or die.  They may choose to run some zoos here and there for their leisure and enjoyment (and potentially some harvest operations), but if you are on-line and reading this, you probably are not in one of these locations.

No, this is just anti-vaxxers exaggerating reality so they can be outraged.

I have zero psychological need to be outraged and would like nothing better than to enjoy the 'old normal' life while keeping my family safe.

On the other hand, I do not possess the ability to turn a blind eye to outrages whether they happen against me or against my fellow man.  It's just the way I'm wired.  Sucks, but it is what it is.

[TwitchySeal]

So if you decide against the vaccine you will just starve to death? This is not right.

This whole thing is driven by people who have money, and they have zero intent in becoming GMO's.  They are doing this thing to the useless eater classes as a means of controlling them so that they can maintain their position through the next economic shift.  So...

Ask yourself if you have the funds to afford a private jet.  If 'yes', then you can probably, if you play your cards/coins right, avoid the designer genetic material and still eat, fly, etc.  If 'no', then plan to assimilate into the borg or die.  They may choose to run some zoos here and there for their leisure and enjoyment (and potentially some harvest operations), but if you are on-line and reading this, you probably are not in one of these locations.

No, this is just anti-vaxxers exaggerating reality so they can be outraged.

I have zero psychological need to be outraged and would like nothing better than to enjoy the 'old normal' life while keeping my family safe.

On the other hand, I do not possess the ability to turn a blind eye to outrages whether they happen against me or against my fellow man.  It's just the way I'm wired.  Sucks, but it is what it is.

The stuff about anti vaxxers starving to death and the Canadian Government forcing Grocery Stores to not let anyone in the door without the vaccine...it's not real.

[BADecker]

The Nazi's were bad. The Communists are worse. But these jokers who are trying to take over the world by scaring the people into submission, are worse than all!


UK Woman Arrested For Filming Inside Empty Hospital

She has been charged on suspicion of a public order offense. While the footage shows the inside of the hospital to be virtually empty, UK health authorities have continually asserted that the NHS is at risk of being "overwhelmed" as a result of rising COVID-19 infections. Public data shows that hospitals are indeed emptier than at this time last year, with beds being at 89% occupancy compared to 95% occupancy in December 2019. Almost all of the emergency Nightingale hospitals that were built at a cost of £220 million to handle overflow COVID patients were never used and are now being dismantled.

[tvbcof]

I have zero psychological need to be outraged and would like nothing better than to enjoy the 'old normal' life while keeping my family safe.

On the other hand, I do not possess the ability to turn a blind eye to outrages whether they happen against me or against my fellow man.  It's just the way I'm wired.  Sucks, but it is what it is.

The stuff about anti vaxxers starving to death and the Canadian Government forcing Grocery Stores to not let anyone in the door without the vaccine...it's not real.

We are really only a couple of relatively small steps away from it, and both are highly talked about:

1) 'Cashless':  If you don't have 'the mark' so to speak, you don't transact economically and if you don't transact then you don't eat.

2) 'Universal Basic Income':  Couple this with a situation where there are no forms of employment but government and corporate (both of which can mandate genetic manipulation compliance as terms of employ) and you've got as close to 100% GMO-humans as you need.

The only saving grace is that current electronic forms of payment are so dismally unreliable, as almost anyone with a credit/debit card can attest to, that they may need to keep cash around for a while longer.  The internet and phone systems which are the backbone upon which such systems need to operate, is also horribly unreliable in many areas (like where I am now.)

[BADecker]

^^^ That's why Bitcoin is going through the roof. Silicon Valley people realize what "cashless" means more than anybody else.

[tvbcof]

^^^ That's why Bitcoin is going through the roof. Silicon Valley people realize what "cashless" means more than anybody else.

I would not rule that out.

[BADecker]

^^^ That's why Bitcoin is going through the roof. Silicon Valley people realize what "cashless" means more than anybody else.

I would not rule that out.

I hope this doesn't get sent over to some altcon section, but Roger Ver just announced a method you can use with twitter to send BCH to anybody on twitter for no fee at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k47XpnmjdWc

[Gyfts]

UK is adjusting their strategy on the 2nd doses. The original protocol was something like a few weeks from the first dose to the second -- UK is now extending that period and allowing different vaccines to be mixed in. Meaning, you take the Pfizer vaccine as the first dose, then take the Moderna dose. Health experts are saying this makes no fucking sense, because it doesn't. Vaccines are based on the spike proteins, but is it a good idea to then begin mixing vaccines that have not passed basic scrutiny through clinical trials together?

https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/uk-allows-mixing-covid-19-vaccines-as-experts-warn-of-risks/

[tvbcof]

UK is adjusting their strategy on the 2nd doses. The original protocol was something like a few weeks from the first dose to the second -- UK is now extending that period and allowing different vaccines to be mixed in. Meaning, you take the Pfizer vaccine as the first dose, then take the Moderna dose. Health experts are saying this makes no fucking sense, because it doesn't. Vaccines are based on the spike proteins, but is it a good idea to then begin mixing vaccines that have not passed basic scrutiny through clinical trials together?

https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/uk-allows-mixing-covid-19-vaccines-as-experts-warn-of-risks/

As I've said all along, the genetic modification injection is driving what they labeled 'covid-19'.  Not the other way around.  In this way, mixing and matching makes perfect sense.

If you have a hypothesis which continues to explain events as they happen, it's a sign that you are on the right track.  I didn't predict this 'mixing is fine' development, but that's mostly because I didn't think they'd consider it a good marketing strategy.  Anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together will raise their eyebrows on this one.  The question is, will a celebrity doctor be able to put the semi-thinker + crowd back to sleep again?

Or a guy who LARPS as a doctor on the bitcointalk forum?