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December 30, 2020, 08:26:04 PM
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I've tried to peruse this massive forum for an answer and cannot seem to find any specificity on what I am looking for so I will attempt to explain what I am trying achieve here.

I am a private investor with BTC and have been doing so quite regularly for over a year now. My portfolio is my private funded portfolio and that is all fine and dandy.

A real world application I am trying to develop is one that includes my business as a General Contractor where I can utilize BTC as an everyday monetary means of conducting business. For instance I cannot purchase materials needed for a job at the local box store such as Lowes or Home Depot for my next job. I cannot charge my clients for jobs and ask they pay in BTC as a majority of my clients do not even hardly understand the technology and still think it's a fad that is certainly in the realm of mystery and intrigue.

Therefore if I maintain an account that is strictly BTC for my business (No fiat at all) is there a way that can work instantaneously exchange BTC to local currency for transaction both incoming and outgoing? This would be extremely convenient without having to constantly manage account fiat / BTC exchanges on a daily or weekly basis.

Look forward to any input on this matter.
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December 30, 2020, 08:50:51 PM
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If I understand, you want a payment system for your site where you can pay and receive payment in Bitcoin, regardless of the currency the other party wants? So, if you pay in Bitcoin, they'll receive fiat, and if they pay you in Fiat you get Bitcoins, am I right?

My suggestion would be a payment processor such as BTCpay. You can check out their wiki page for more information.

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December 30, 2020, 11:15:46 PM
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A real world application I am trying to develop is one that includes my business as a General Contractor where I can utilize BTC as an everyday monetary means of conducting business. For instance I cannot purchase materials needed for a job at the local box store such as Lowes or Home Depot for my next job. I cannot charge my clients for jobs and ask they pay in BTC as a majority of my clients do not even hardly understand the technology and still think it's a fad that is certainly in the realm of mystery and intrigue.

Therefore if I maintain an account that is strictly BTC for my business (No fiat at all) is there a way that can work instantaneously exchange BTC to local currency for transaction both incoming and outgoing? This would be extremely convenient without having to constantly manage account fiat / BTC exchanges on a daily or weekly basis.

Look forward to any input on this matter.

there are lots of payment processors who can invoice your customers, take payment in BTC, and then transmit the fiat value to you, the merchant. bitpay, coingate, coinpayments, etc. you'll notice all these companies market their product as a way for merchants to accept BTC, not as a way for customers to pay in USD.

finding the reverse---a processor who can take payments in fiat and transmit the BTC to the merchant---is much more difficult, due to the high risk of fraud with fiat payment methods.

you could get a bitcoin debit card from coinbase, bitpay, etc. that would allow you to pay at lowes or home depot with bitcoins held in your debit card account. so that takes care of the spending angle. but again, getting bitcoins from your customers in the first place is the tricky part.

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December 31, 2020, 12:11:17 AM
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As others have said, payment processors are your friends here. There are quite a few out there already, I myself having the experience of using a few of them. You can also try out using Paypal, since from what I understood from their system, it automatically moves the BTC amount to the local currency of the seller so that it has no issue whatsoever with the exact amount to be moved. It's kind of like knowing you have BTC on your account but is stated as a local currency or something similar? Though this only works on the US so far from what I know, so payment processors are your best bet.

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December 31, 2020, 08:33:20 AM
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Therefore if I maintain an account that is strictly BTC for my business (No fiat at all) is there a way that can work instantaneously exchange BTC to local currency for transaction both incoming and outgoing? This would be extremely convenient without having to constantly manage account fiat / BTC exchanges on a daily or weekly basis.

Look forward to any input on this matter.

There are two services I can think of that could achieve this kind of payment flow.

The first is Wyre. With their Wyre Checkout widget, you can invoice your clients in fiat, they can pay via debit card or Apple Pay, and you'll receive bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies. You can use Wyre's API to exchange fiat and cryptocurrency within your own account.

I'm less sure about the second one, Bitwage. They provide a way for people to receive part of their paycheck in bitcoins. They assign you a bank account -- which you are supposed to give to your employer -- and when you get paid, they convert all or a portion of each payment to bitcoins. In theory, you could use this bank account to receive ACH bank transfers from your different clients, and have the payments converted to bitcoins. However, without looking deeper into their terms, I can't be sure whether this type of activity is actually permitted.

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December 31, 2020, 12:40:47 PM
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Therefore if I maintain an account that is strictly BTC for my business (No fiat at all) is there a way that can work instantaneously exchange BTC to local currency for transaction both incoming and outgoing? This would be extremely convenient without having to constantly manage account fiat / BTC exchanges on a daily or weekly basis.
I am not well aware if there is any global payment gateway that accepts the local currency. Only a payment gateway from your country would help you in that case. The customer would make deposits and withdrawal as well via BTC. Also, it's a matter of regulation when you involved local currency with Bitcoin, if your government doesn't allow bitcoin then it would be more complicated. I think there is much local exchange in your country those have been exchanging bitcoin to local currency. You have to choose one of them (of course trusted).

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January 01, 2021, 10:37:47 AM
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It is better to follow the traditional methods, collect money, and then buy from the platforms, as avoiding taxes (private wallet) will be very difficult.
also, some risks with refund and stolen KYC.

The first is Wyre. With their Wyre Checkout widget, you can invoice your clients in fiat, they can pay via debit card or Apple Pay, and you'll receive bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies. You can use Wyre's API to exchange fiat and cryptocurrency within your own account.
AFAIK, In the USA, This service needs users to provide their ID, so this process may be slow and may take a couple of days depending on how KYC verification is done (will take longer if it is on weekends.)
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January 01, 2021, 12:27:26 PM
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The first is Wyre. With their Wyre Checkout widget, you can invoice your clients in fiat, they can pay via debit card or Apple Pay, and you'll receive bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies. You can use Wyre's API to exchange fiat and cryptocurrency within your own account.
AFAIK, In the USA, This service needs users to provide their ID, so this process may be slow and may take a couple of days depending on how KYC verification is done (will take longer if it is on weekends.)

I doubt you'll find a scalable fiat-to-cryptocurrency gateway in this day and age that doesn't require KYC. Each of his clients would have to complete a one-time KYC verification, yes. Wyre has a customer onboarding process for this.

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