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Apart from scam bounties, the main problem affecting bounties is overcrowded bounty hunters, even if a bounty has good allocation either trading already or not if bounty hunters are way too much it won't matter and even the work won't fit the payment, who is with me? Escrow isn't even the most important here, some may say otherwise but to me limited participants will get the job done
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December 31, 2020, 07:44:32 AM |
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Not all project team will accept limited participants, try to understand this fact now, many projects team want massive promoters for their projects and not even bounty managers can change that or say no to such rules, it's left for bounty hunters to either promote such project or find the one that have limited participants, remember, no one is been forced
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December 31, 2020, 08:28:28 AM |
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Before the project starts the bounty campaign, they need to have limitations for the participant's number, so they will not run out of the distribution of the token. Having an escrow can give them trust among the participants, investors, and people who know their project that the project is not trying to scam them. But I think some projects can succeed because of the promotion, and the bounty hunters really help them promote the project.
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The developer wouldn't pay attention of your suggestions, most of bounty hunters is spammer and low quality post... it's why the participants aren't limited.
Also the purpose of bounty program is marketing/promoting by bounty hunters, the more bounty hunters joining will make more the project visible and attract many investors.
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December 31, 2020, 08:39:31 AM |
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The developer wouldn't pay attention of your suggestions, most of bounty hunters is spammer and low quality post... it's why the participants aren't limited.
Also the purpose of bounty program is marketing/promoting by bounty hunters, the more bounty hunters joining will make more the project visible and attract many investors.
If that's the case then the only way to know a quality bounty campaign today is through limited participants, no wonder DIA reward was so good for the participants, even jr members are so luck cos they earned up to 160$-170$ Also if bounty hunters posts are low quality isn't that's why we have bounty managers? Why can't bounty managers remove stakes from those that post low qualities?
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December 31, 2020, 08:43:05 AM |
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The developer wouldn't pay attention of your suggestions, most of bounty hunters is spammer and low quality post... it's why the participants aren't limited.
Also the purpose of bounty program is marketing/promoting by bounty hunters, the more bounty hunters joining will make more the project visible and attract many investors.
Low quality posts to be blame for accepting unlimited participants doesn't make any sense, it's like a intentionally conspiracy to me, a clean bounty campaign will either use one of the following. 1. Limited participants 2. Escrowed 3. Fixed tokens
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What do you want to refer to when saying that there's overcrowded bounty hunters? should we ban them or should you only join the bounty programs? It's Bitcointalk, it's meant to gather people all over the globe, there's no issue having alot of hunters but the only issue is with the projects and the bounty campaigns themselves, we are only getting a little number of serious projects with alot of fake, fishy and scammy projects. I remember that 2017 was the greatest year for bounty hunters, nowadays it's full of trash.
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December 31, 2020, 09:19:13 AM |
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Also if bounty hunters posts are low quality isn't that's why we have bounty managers? Why can't bounty managers remove stakes from those that post low qualities?
Even though most of bounties already mentioned low quality post will be kicked or remove the stake, still the managers are give the reward for those low quality. I know each member/user is different determining of low quality post is, but for me answering same answer that has been answered before is low quality. Low quality posts to be blame for accepting unlimited participants doesn't make any sense, it's like a intentionally conspiracy to me, a clean bounty campaign will either use one of the following.
1. Limited participants 2. Escrowed 3. Fixed tokens
Low quality post is one of many factors that make the bounties accepting unlimited participants, another reason is accept low rank account, spammer, not strict rules, developer don't care etc, bounty hunters don't care etc. If you want the valid answer to solve the unlimited participants is FORCING CAMPAIGN MANAGER TO MAKE RULES LIMITING THE PARTICIPANTS AND STOP JOINING A BOUNTIES ACCEPTING UNLIMITED PARTICIPANTS!And you're still joining a bounties accepting unlimited participants LOL ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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December 31, 2020, 09:30:02 AM |
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We've discussed about this before and I'm not ready to argue about few comments on under this topic, what I can say about this is it's always about your choices, if a bounty campaign isn't doing what you expected or the rules are not in your favour do not join, find campaigns that suits you, some bounties still use limited participants and some still allows unlimited participants
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December 31, 2020, 09:32:40 AM |
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Also if bounty hunters posts are low quality isn't that's why we have bounty managers? Why can't bounty managers remove stakes from those that post low qualities?
Even though most of bounties already mentioned low quality post will be kicked or remove the stake, still the managers are give the reward for those low quality. I know each member/user is different determining of low quality post is, but for me answering same answer that has been answered before is low quality. Low quality posts to be blame for accepting unlimited participants doesn't make any sense, it's like a intentionally conspiracy to me, a clean bounty campaign will either use one of the following.
1. Limited participants 2. Escrowed 3. Fixed tokens
Low quality post is one of many factors that make the bounties accepting unlimited participants, another reason is accept low rank account, spammer, not strict rules, developer don't care etc, bounty hunters don't care etc. If you want the valid answer to solve the unlimited participants is FORCING CAMPAIGN MANAGER TO MAKE RULES LIMITING THE PARTICIPANTS AND STOP JOINING A BOUNTIES ACCEPTING UNLIMITED PARTICIPANTS!And you're still joining a bounties accepting unlimited participants LOL ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) You mean the bounty that I'm currently promoting? Amepay Signature form is closed, no new participants are allowed right now and we are not more that 190 participants on spreadsheet, that's still fair and also the reward is fixed not pool allocation like others 😒😒
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December 31, 2020, 09:43:43 AM |
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Apart from scam bounties, the main problem affecting bounties is overcrowded bounty hunters, even if a bounty has good allocation either trading already or not if bounty hunters are way too much it won't matter and even the work won't fit the payment, who is with me? Escrow isn't even the most important here, some may say otherwise but to me limited participants will get the job done
The escrow gives guarantee for your payment and if you are not using the escrow and then even the legit project can deceive you dude. that depends on your project and did you see what happened with the HEX campaign and many legit campaigns. Each social media participants were able to getting a few hundreds of dollars from there. Do your own research it doesn't matter how much hunters that already participated. The team is a party who will be determining how much participants that they will accept it in the campaign and you should talk this to the team.
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December 31, 2020, 09:45:30 AM |
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You mean the bounty that I'm currently promoting?
Yes Amepay Signature form is closed, no new participants are allowed right now and we are not more that 190 participants on spreadsheet, that's still fair and also the reward is fixed not pool allocation like others 😒😒
That's wrong it's not 190 but 180 current participants right now. And the thread didn't mention how many participants they will accept, they only said post a proof of authentication to join this bounty . All accepted participants List Will be announced Soon It means they didn't make a limit participants before and as you can see, there's still a hunters applying there ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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December 31, 2020, 09:57:48 AM |
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Still remember how I would have made over 1000$ from Youengine, after distribution was done every bounty hunters dump their tokens and the value dumped marginally but unfortunately the token recovers from 0.0008$ to 0.02$ days ago, this is the most painful experience for me this year
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In these jobs, priority should always be quality. Quality matters in bounty campaigns. Merit system has solved many problems in this regard. I think now the bounty managers are happy with this situation.
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December 31, 2020, 10:08:23 AM |
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You mean the bounty that I'm currently promoting? Amepay Signature form is closed, no new participants are allowed right now and we are not more that 190 participants on spreadsheet, that's still fair and also the reward is fixed not pool allocation like others 😒😒
It is in such cases, when the reward is fixed, that the team limits the number of participants. In such cases, the number of rewards allocated for the bounty will be divided among a limited number of participants. In other cases, the reward will be divided by the number of participants. And the more bounty hunters take part in the bounty, the smaller the reward they will receive.
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If people stop greed, scam campaigns will be greatly reduced, because it will be difficult for them to promote their projects for free. Many beginners try to get money before it is guaranteed and thus they do all the work and in the end, they may not get anything.
Part of them creates several accounts, which means that they will easily be scammed, but they have a lot of accounts, so if one account succeeds, they will get profits.
if the project gives too many coins for small/easy tasks avoid it.
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When there is money, there is the crowd. So, they should expect competition in the form of limited participants if they want to make the reward (still) appealing. It is similar to the job market.
The problem is, they often want to abuse people for free work, and instead of just ignoring the shady project, we still desperately joining the cheap campaign. There is no Ministry of Labor here, so what we can do is, stop doing free work and find other fair paid jobs.
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Bounty hunters don't have some respect for themselves sorry to say, they have no class of their own that's why they find cheap projects to promote, this hunting thing is based on choices, if you promote the right projects you will still be rewarded fairly, have some self worth and be picky, don't choose projects for unrealistic USD allocations
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December 31, 2020, 02:47:23 PM |
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You mean the bounty that I'm currently promoting?
Yes Amepay Signature form is closed, no new participants are allowed right now and we are not more that 190 participants on spreadsheet, that's still fair and also the reward is fixed not pool allocation like others 😒😒
That's wrong it's not 190 but 180 current participants right now. And the thread didn't mention how many participants they will accept, they only said post a proof of authentication to join this bounty . All accepted participants List Will be announced Soon It means they didn't make a limit participants before and as you can see, there's still a hunters applying there ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) The form is closed, new participants are not welcome and the whole bounty allocation is for signature participants only, if you look at the spreadsheet it says 189 participants and some are deactivated due to inactivity, I have a feeling that amepay is going to be one of the best bounties this year just like few others
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That's not the main problem with bounties, it's a topic discussed to the death but I still think the underlying issue is that bounties are wrong on 2 levels.
First, it's just empty marketing efforts from the project. No spending, just asking people to promote.
Second, hunters aren't users or even token buyers. They contribute absolutely zero if they don't even use the product.
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