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January 05, 2021, 04:01:01 PM
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Well that is a very long time indeed, a little weird that it was not reported yet since the crypto community is so big, nobody stumbled upon it.
An actual friend. I will ask him where he heard about it the next time I see him.
Not every scams got reported but most of the scams will be exposed in bitcointalk as well as in reddit forum. We are still growing and people are doing it voluntarily that is why we didn't see these few hidden ones.Hope your friend is not the one who is behind the shady exchange or an actual victim. Cry

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January 05, 2021, 04:06:53 PM
Last edit: January 05, 2021, 04:23:19 PM by M.T.159
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this licbtc.com sounds quite suspicious to me. First of all, seems a little unprofessional coded. For example, they did not redirect HTTP to HTTPS (check with and without "s")
I find some reviews about them, but I did not check it all
licbtc.com Review
https://www.scamdoc.com/view/467846
https://www.signal-arnaques.com/en/scam/view/297625

to me, these transactions look like a trading bot is using those funds. Maybe is your funds locked in open orders. Can you check your open orders there?

Thank you very much for this information
I sent an email to another person who was apparently scammed and wrote his email address in the comment section of that website.
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January 05, 2021, 04:40:41 PM
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Hello everyone,

First of all, I am not sure where to post this kind of problem, so I apologize if I went to the wrong forum group.

I would like to ask, I noticed some transactions on my wallet both going in and out. It is always the same amount +0.01575000 ETH going in from the same address and a little less (I assume due to a fee) going back to the same address minutes later. I discovered this through https://www.blockchain.com website. I sent ETH to this wallet but it would seem I cannot withdraw it, when I set the request, it changed my assets status to "frozen" and I cannot see the withdraw request anywhere, not even on the blockchain.com website. I am not sure what to make of this, however I am quite new so if any of you have similar experience or maybe an idea what these transactions mean, I would be thankful for any information you can give me.

M.T.

Your statement was a bit confused to me, I don't know if the other members here in the forum noticed this thing also.
There is no clear about your experienced in terms of withdrawals if I am not mistaken to my understanding. But anyway, did you double
check your address before you confirmed you transaction?
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January 05, 2021, 04:51:54 PM
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Hello everyone,

First of all, I am not sure where to post this kind of problem, so I apologize if I went to the wrong forum group.

I would like to ask, I noticed some transactions on my wallet both going in and out. It is always the same amount +0.01575000 ETH going in from the same address and a little less (I assume due to a fee) going back to the same address minutes later. I discovered this through https://www.blockchain.com website. I sent ETH to this wallet but it would seem I cannot withdraw it, when I set the request, it changed my assets status to "frozen" and I cannot see the withdraw request anywhere, not even on the blockchain.com website. I am not sure what to make of this, however I am quite new so if any of you have similar experience or maybe an idea what these transactions mean, I would be thankful for any information you can give me.

M.T.

Your statement was a bit confused to me, I don't know if the other members here in the forum noticed this thing also.
There is no clear about your experienced in terms of withdrawals if I am not mistaken to my understanding. But anyway, did you double
check your address before you confirmed you transaction?

I am not sure what you mean by experienced, can you explain? You mean whether I did something like that before?
I did check my address, I tried it for a couple of times now. The transaction changes to status "checking" which I see there and after several hours the ETH just returns to the wallet.
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January 05, 2021, 05:25:38 PM
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Yes, actually that was my question once I read a quick article about custodian wallets. What if Binance or Coinbase decide to cease operation and keep all the tokens people have in their wallets. If that actually can happen or not (I know the chance with an exchange as big as Binance is small, at least I guess).
So if I understand this correctly, metamask is a wallet (an app, which you download, basically), where you keep your ETH under your control, instead of relying on an exchange like Binance, Coinbase or the exchange in question here, LicEx.
Once you buy ETH on Binance for example, you withdraw it and deposit just like I did before but you deposit it to your own wallet?



Exactly.
It is very important that you create a new wallet immediately if you want to buy cryptocurrencies.

Once you have your wallet, try to withdrawal the coins from your exchange wallet to your new wallet.

For ethereum, I like to use metamask (a browser extension)

For long term storage you will need to buy a hardware wallet. The best ones are ledger nano and trezor.  They are much safer and you won't be hacked

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January 05, 2021, 05:41:16 PM
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Yes, actually that was my question once I read a quick article about custodian wallets. What if Binance or Coinbase decide to cease operation and keep all the tokens people have in their wallets. If that actually can happen or not (I know the chance with an exchange as big as Binance is small, at least I guess).
So if I understand this correctly, metamask is a wallet (an app, which you download, basically), where you keep your ETH under your control, instead of relying on an exchange like Binance, Coinbase or the exchange in question here, LicEx.
Once you buy ETH on Binance for example, you withdraw it and deposit just like I did before but you deposit it to your own wallet?



Exactly.
It is very important that you create a new wallet immediately if you want to buy cryptocurrencies.

Once you have your wallet, try to withdrawal the coins from your exchange wallet to your new wallet.

For ethereum, I like to use metamask (a browser extension)

For long term storage you will need to buy a hardware wallet. The best ones are ledger nano and trezor.  They are much safer and you won't be hacked

You forgot to say that any wallet where you control or have private key is under your control. Of course, the essential condition is that only you have control over the private key. Usually, exchanges do not allow access to PK, which implies that we do not have complete control of the addresses from exchanges.

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Yes, actually that was my question once I read a quick article about custodian wallets. What if Binance or Coinbase decide to cease operation and keep all the tokens people have in their wallets. If that actually can happen or not (I know the chance with an exchange as big as Binance is small, at least I guess).
So if I understand this correctly, metamask is a wallet (an app, which you download, basically), where you keep your ETH under your control, instead of relying on an exchange like Binance, Coinbase or the exchange in question here, LicEx.
Once you buy ETH on Binance for example, you withdraw it and deposit just like I did before but you deposit it to your own wallet?



Exactly.
It is very important that you create a new wallet immediately if you want to buy cryptocurrencies.

Once you have your wallet, try to withdrawal the coins from your exchange wallet to your new wallet.

For ethereum, I like to use metamask (a browser extension)

For long term storage you will need to buy a hardware wallet. The best ones are ledger nano and trezor.  They are much safer and you won't be hacked

Do you mean to try and withdraw the ETH from the exchange that appears to be a scam? Do you think trying to withdraw to a new wallet would help? If that is the case, wouldn't revealing the address to the scam site compromise the new wallet? Or is it that they would just see the public address (key)?
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January 05, 2021, 09:38:42 PM
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Do you mean to try and withdraw the ETH from the exchange that appears to be a scam? Do you think trying to withdraw to a new wallet would help? If that is the case, wouldn't revealing the address to the scam site compromise the new wallet? Or is it that they would just see the public address (key)?

Yes it will solve all problems if you can withdrawal everything

Create a new wallet a generate a new public address.  Withdrawal to that address.

It will not compromise.

If they are scammers, they won't let you withdraw

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If a transaction enters your wallet without your knowledge and then the transaction returns to the same account, there may be a security weakness. You may have someone stole your passwords. Other than that, I don't have much of an idea, frankly, it's the first time I've heard such an event.
yes I also heard about this for the first time and it was very confusing, because if it was true that the hackers did it, it was impossible for him to return the money, only suggested for the OP when the money came in again, immediately move it to another wallet and also avoid the exchange. .
That seems possible because he can't able to withdraw the fund. The address that he has shown to us is beyond his control, it is an exchanges wallet address, and any transactions that he has seen is that a part of the exchanges transactions, not solely for OP.

@OP, to avoid that confusion, you better leave that wallet, it is not yours, you are not in control of that and if you keep using that wallet, you are just feeding these scammers.
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@OP, to avoid that confusion, you better leave that wallet, it is not yours, you are not in control of that and if you keep using that wallet, you are just feeding these scammers.

As far as I understand from your explanation, this wallet is also used by others? If such a situation exists and is used by hackers, it can take serious trouble. Or by constantly checking the account, which I definitely do not recommend, it can transfer the contents of the wallet to their own accounts.

You guys better read the thread or atleast the OP before making any posts because he is talking about exchange's wallet not his own. He can't able to withdraw his balance which is showing on the exchange balance but actually there is nothing left in his wallet address so most likely he deposited into a scam exchange so there is no possible way to access those funds.

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January 06, 2021, 07:55:04 AM
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@OP, to avoid that confusion, you better leave that wallet, it is not yours, you are not in control of that and if you keep using that wallet, you are just feeding these scammers.

As far as I understand from your explanation, this wallet is also used by others? If such a situation exists and is used by hackers, it can take serious trouble. Or by constantly checking the account, which I definitely do not recommend, it can transfer the contents of the wallet to their own accounts.

You guys better read the thread or atleast the OP before making any posts because he is talking about exchange's wallet not his own. He can't able to withdraw his balance which is showing on the exchange balance but actually there is nothing left in his wallet address so most likely he deposited into a scam exchange so there is no possible way to access those funds.

Thank you for the explanation gyus, I will try to summarize the issue here, since there is a number of posts here and people seem to read only part of it.
When I sign into the account on the particular exchange and I check the wallet there, I see remaining ETH in the amount of 0.19... However, when I check the wallet's address on a website like blockchain.com, I see the remaining ETH amount is 0.000084 (I am not sure now, because I do not want to sign into the account anymore, just in case). Also, it is showing transactions which I did not make, these transactions are not shown in the exchange's website, when I click the wallet and check transactions. These are only shown on blockchain.com.
Now when I try to withdraw the remaining ETH (shown on exchange amount 0.19...), it changes the status to frozen, there is a transaction with the status of "checking" for several hours, I think it is about 10-12 hours and after that it gets refused and the ETH just returns to the wallet (probably because that is not the actual amount that is in the wallet according to blockchain.com).
I tried to be brief, so I am not sure if I caught the bulk of the problem in this but everyone should read the whole topic in case of their interest.

I will try what you guys adviced, to create a personal wallet through metamask and withdraw to that wallet, however, I doubt it will work but I am very grateful for your advices.
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January 06, 2021, 09:58:32 AM
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I will try what you guys adviced, to create a personal wallet through metamask and withdraw to that wallet, however, I doubt it will work but I am very grateful for your advices.


I don't think you can be able to withdraw those funds because it looks clearly that exchange is scammy so better don't deposit anything again or never recommend to anyone like your friend did to you.

You also can create a scam accusation thread so people will be aware of this exchange in future in case if they search for it.

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January 06, 2021, 10:37:32 AM
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I will try what you guys adviced, to create a personal wallet through metamask and withdraw to that wallet, however, I doubt it will work but I am very grateful for your advices.


I don't think you can be able to withdraw those funds because it looks clearly that exchange is scammy so better don't deposit anything again or never recommend to anyone like your friend did to you.

You also can create a scam accusation thread so people will be aware of this exchange in future in case if they search for it.

Yes, I think I will not be able as well. Do you think they could somehow access my other wallets, for example on Binance? Say, if I buy ETH or Litecoin on Binance, are those tokens in any dangers from them?
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January 06, 2021, 10:53:47 AM
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I don't think you can do anything against people depositing coins in your wallet. But that is fine I guess since it's just a gift for you. There is no law that will force you to repay the money people put in your wallet. But seeing withdrawals from your wallet is not acceptable. I would instantly advise you do contact the company and let your wallet being locked until it's all sorted out. If you have some proof that you are the owner of the wallet than you shouldn't have problems getting new access to your account
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I will try what you guys adviced, to create a personal wallet through metamask and withdraw to that wallet, however, I doubt it will work but I am very grateful for your advices.


I don't think you can be able to withdraw those funds because it looks clearly that exchange is scammy so better don't deposit anything again or never recommend to anyone like your friend did to you.

You also can create a scam accusation thread so people will be aware of this exchange in future in case if they search for it.

Yes, I think I will not be able as well. Do you think they could somehow access my other wallets, for example on Binance? Say, if I buy ETH or Litecoin on Binance, are those tokens in any dangers from them?

If you have same passwords or your devices are  being compromised better to double check everything and change it right away,

then add some more securities like 2fa and if whatever available extra security for your account, be very furious and careful in dealing

with your investment hackers are just everywhere waiting for your single mistake to penetrate.
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I will try what you guys adviced, to create a personal wallet through metamask and withdraw to that wallet, however, I doubt it will work but I am very grateful for your advices.


I don't think you can be able to withdraw those funds because it looks clearly that exchange is scammy so better don't deposit anything again or never recommend to anyone like your friend did to you.

You also can create a scam accusation thread so people will be aware of this exchange in future in case if they search for it.

Yes, I think I will not be able as well. Do you think they could somehow access my other wallets, for example on Binance? Say, if I buy ETH or Litecoin on Binance, are those tokens in any dangers from them?

If you have same passwords or your devices are  being compromised better to double check everything and change it right away,

then add some more securities like 2fa and if whatever available extra security for your account, be very furious and careful in dealing

with your investment hackers are just everywhere waiting for your single mistake to penetrate.

I do not use the same passwords, luckily. Thank you
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January 06, 2021, 01:09:42 PM
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I will try what you guys adviced, to create a personal wallet through metamask and withdraw to that wallet, however, I doubt it will work but I am very grateful for your advices.


I don't think you can be able to withdraw those funds because it looks clearly that exchange is scammy so better don't deposit anything again or never recommend to anyone like your friend did to you.

You also can create a scam accusation thread so people will be aware of this exchange in future in case if they search for it.

Yes, I think I will not be able as well. Do you think they could somehow access my other wallets, for example on Binance? Say, if I buy ETH or Litecoin on Binance, are those tokens in any dangers from them?
It seems you aren't compromised, you just picked the scam exchange to deposit so it is not going to affect you with other exchanges but still it is better to do things like changing the login credentials and add 2FA security layer if you didn't and also if possible put IP login guard so even if someone knows you password they still need your authorization to enters into your exchange's account.

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January 06, 2021, 01:19:55 PM
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I will try what you guys adviced, to create a personal wallet through metamask and withdraw to that wallet, however, I doubt it will work but I am very grateful for your advices.


I don't think you can be able to withdraw those funds because it looks clearly that exchange is scammy so better don't deposit anything again or never recommend to anyone like your friend did to you.

You also can create a scam accusation thread so people will be aware of this exchange in future in case if they search for it.

Yes, I think I will not be able as well. Do you think they could somehow access my other wallets, for example on Binance? Say, if I buy ETH or Litecoin on Binance, are those tokens in any dangers from them?
It seems you aren't compromised, you just picked the scam exchange to deposit so it is not going to affect you with other exchanges but still it is better to do things like changing the login credentials and add 2FA security layer if you didn't and also if possible put IP login guard so even if someone knows you password they still need your authorization to enters into your exchange's account.

Yes, I am familiar with two factor authorization, I do have that not only regarding crypto exchanges.
Also some other news, I received a response from the exchange's customer support, after 3 days that is, I wrote them an email regarding not being able to withdraw my ETH and they are asking me to provide them with my account details or email address so they can look at the transactions happening in my wallet and see what is the problem - that seems a little unusual request from a customer service, doesn't it? Customer services never should ask the details of your account or am I wrong?
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January 06, 2021, 03:52:53 PM
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I will try what you guys adviced, to create a personal wallet through metamask and withdraw to that wallet, however, I doubt it will work but I am very grateful for your advices.


I don't think you can be able to withdraw those funds because it looks clearly that exchange is scammy so better don't deposit anything again or never recommend to anyone like your friend did to you.

You also can create a scam accusation thread so people will be aware of this exchange in future in case if they search for it.

Yes, I think I will not be able as well. Do you think they could somehow access my other wallets, for example on Binance? Say, if I buy ETH or Litecoin on Binance, are those tokens in any dangers from them?
It seems you aren't compromised, you just picked the scam exchange to deposit so it is not going to affect you with other exchanges but still it is better to do things like changing the login credentials and add 2FA security layer if you didn't and also if possible put IP login guard so even if someone knows you password they still need your authorization to enters into your exchange's account.

Yes, I am familiar with two factor authorization, I do have that not only regarding crypto exchanges.
Also some other news, I received a response from the exchange's customer support, after 3 days that is, I wrote them an email regarding not being able to withdraw my ETH and they are asking me to provide them with my account details or email address so they can look at the transactions happening in my wallet and see what is the problem - that seems a little unusual request from a customer service, doesn't it? Customer services never should ask the details of your account or am I wrong?

Let me guess what will happen next, they will ask for email verification which was used to register on their account and may send you a phishing link to hack your device further.

Or they will trick you again with further verification needed like deposit 0.01ETH to resume your account to normal.So you should never fall into any of such traps but just reply to them to see what is going to be their approach.

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January 06, 2021, 04:11:04 PM
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I will try what you guys adviced, to create a personal wallet through metamask and withdraw to that wallet, however, I doubt it will work but I am very grateful for your advices.


I don't think you can be able to withdraw those funds because it looks clearly that exchange is scammy so better don't deposit anything again or never recommend to anyone like your friend did to you.

You also can create a scam accusation thread so people will be aware of this exchange in future in case if they search for it.

Yes, I think I will not be able as well. Do you think they could somehow access my other wallets, for example on Binance? Say, if I buy ETH or Litecoin on Binance, are those tokens in any dangers from them?
It seems you aren't compromised, you just picked the scam exchange to deposit so it is not going to affect you with other exchanges but still it is better to do things like changing the login credentials and add 2FA security layer if you didn't and also if possible put IP login guard so even if someone knows you password they still need your authorization to enters into your exchange's account.

Yes, I am familiar with two factor authorization, I do have that not only regarding crypto exchanges.
Also some other news, I received a response from the exchange's customer support, after 3 days that is, I wrote them an email regarding not being able to withdraw my ETH and they are asking me to provide them with my account details or email address so they can look at the transactions happening in my wallet and see what is the problem - that seems a little unusual request from a customer service, doesn't it? Customer services never should ask the details of your account or am I wrong?

Let me guess what will happen next, they will ask for email verification which was used to register on their account and may send you a phishing link to hack your device further.

Or they will trick you again with further verification needed like deposit 0.01ETH to resume your account to normal.So you should never fall into any of such traps but just reply to them to see what is going to be their approach.

That was my idea. I would not deposit any more tokens there, that would be a very very suspicious verification of my identity.
They do have my email address already since I did write them an email, however if they send me something back with a link, I sure will not click it.
However I do have a dilemma, do you think I should let them know that multiple users reported the exchange as a scam, or should I leave that out?
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