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January 28, 2021, 04:45:55 AM
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Considering there were not even any demonstrations, it is fair to say the 25,000 troop level was excessive.
No it's not.  It's illogical to say that.

The point is to reduce the chances of anyone attempting anything to as close to 0 as possible, not have just enough soldiers to win a shoot out.



+1 to this.

Not sure why it even matters the amount of troops that are in DC (on a relative level) — We literally just had thousands of people overwhelm the Capitol police and storm into the Capitol building. It’s not like Joe Biden is personally ordering these people to arrest his political enemies — it’s just for protection of the Capitol and those inside.
It was actually hundreds of people that stormed the capital, not thousands.

Twitchy is endorsing a police state. I believe the purpose of the military presence is to prevent protests in response to Biden's widely unpopular agenda.

To put things into perspective, there were several hundred national guard troops sent to DC in June to help with security when the riots were actually ongoing, and many times larger than the riot on January 6.

This can’t really be what you think. (I mean I guess it can be, but I really don’t understand it at all) - The things that Biden has done to this point (EO’s) have all had high approval ratings at an overall level (low support among Republicans, but mostly more then 50% for all Americans) - https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bidens-initial-batch-of-executive-actions-is-popular/

There have been reports of potential threats at the inauguration and subsequent events. If you want to say that these aren’t true then that’s fine, but we did just have people storm into the US Capitol so it’s fair to say that we should have protection for the congresspeople and civilians that work in the Capitol.

This isn’t a police state at all, like not even close.




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January 28, 2021, 05:06:18 AM
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This can’t really be what you think. (I mean I guess it can be, but I really don’t understand it at all) - The things that Biden has done to this point (EO’s) have all had high approval ratings at an overall level (low support among Republicans, but mostly more then 50% for all Americans) - https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bidens-initial-batch-of-executive-actions-is-popular/
The polling you cited lists a 77% approval rating for 'Committing to a government-wide focus on racial equity'. This means that either most people do not know what "equity" means, or the polling is not reliable (or both). The polling was not accurate just a few months ago, and I don't have any reason to believe it would be more accurate today.

There have been reports of potential threats at the inauguration and subsequent events. If you want to say that these aren’t true then that’s fine, but we did just have people storm into the US Capitol so it’s fair to say that we should have protection for the congresspeople and civilians that work in the Capitol.
I am sure there are reports of potential threats to all sorts of things. This doesn't mean the people who are making these threats are nothing more than 'keyboard warriors' and are otherwise not serious.

Another way of looking at current troop levels in DC is that we have more troops in DC than we do in Iraq and Afghanistan combined. I don't think any serious person believes we need more troops in DC than we do have fighting ISIS.
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January 28, 2021, 05:21:29 AM
Last edit: January 28, 2021, 05:39:48 AM by TwitchySeal
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Considering there were not even any demonstrations, it is fair to say the 25,000 troop level was excessive.
No it's not.  It's illogical to say that.

The point is to reduce the chances of anyone attempting anything to as close to 0 as possible, not have just enough soldiers to win a shoot out.



+1 to this.

Not sure why it even matters the amount of troops that are in DC (on a relative level) — We literally just had thousands of people overwhelm the Capitol police and storm into the Capitol building. It’s not like Joe Biden is personally ordering these people to arrest his political enemies — it’s just for protection of the Capitol and those inside.
It was actually hundreds of people that stormed the capital, not thousands.
Sure only part of the mob actually went into the capital, part of it remained outside assaulting journalists and fighting cops.  There was also the guy with the molotov cocktails.  The bombs outside the Capital.  The bombs at RNC and DNC.  Remember when the guy with the Trump van sent pipe bombs to all those liberals Trump declared enemy of the people?  Or the plot to kidnap the governor of MI?  

Imagine what your response would be if BLM or radicalized Muslims had done any of that instead of a group that supports the same politician as you.


I believe the purpose of the military presence is to prevent protests in response to Biden's widely unpopular agenda.

To put things into perspective, there were several hundred national guard troops sent to DC in June to help with security when the riots were actually ongoing, and many times larger than the riot on January 6.

It was actually ~3,000 national guard troops, plus law enforcement from various federal agencies, another couple thousand active duty military troops stationed at Andrews.  Which reminds me, I don't remember you speaking out in defense of the right to protest when the President had hundreds of completely peaceful protesters gassed and hit with rubber bullets so he could walk across the street and take this picture:
 I have a feeling you'd have something to say if Biden did something like that though.

Really it's not a fair comparison though.  Even if you totally exaggerate the BLM riots and down play the White Supremacist terrorists, there's still only one group that wants to kill/kidnap elected officials and over throw the federal government.

Another way of looking at current troop levels in DC is that we have more troops in DC than we do in Iraq and Afghanistan combined. I don't think any serious person believes we need more troops in DC than we do have fighting ISIS.

This would be a fair comparison if thousands of Americans joined ISIS (making it a domestic threat) and stormed the Capital earlier this month and were planning on attacking the inauguration.

But that's not the case.  We can take out whatever target we want from 10,000 feet in the middle east, not so much when all the highest ranking elected officials (besides Trump) are standing on the steps of the capital.

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January 28, 2021, 04:09:05 PM
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EXCLUSIVE: Independent Journalist Tayler Hansen: A Riot that Turned Deadly, What I Witnessed at the US Capitol Riot
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January 28, 2021, 05:45:37 PM
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January 28, 2021, 07:10:11 PM
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If you want to catch up with the latest ridiculous, laughable conspiracy theory nonsense,
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Interesting, Tzupy never posted in politics until last month, wasn't active for months before that, and before that only posted in speculation.

Since December though, it's been only P&S, all kraken/qanon/covid denier posts. 

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January 28, 2021, 10:20:02 PM
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If you want to catch up with the latest ridiculous, laughable conspiracy theory nonsense,
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Interesting, Tzupy never posted in politics until last month, wasn't active for months before that, and before that only posted in speculation.

Since December though, it's been only P&S, all kraken/qanon/covid denier posts. 

You are mistaken, I did post in Politics many times before. The reason I waited to post about the stolen election, is that I waited for the evidence to accumulate.
As for you, DeepState-lovers (or should I say operatives?), you should know that the truth eventually comes out, despite your efforts to suppress it.

Hereistheevidence aggregates evidence relating to the stolen election, and the Capitol riot.
https://hereistheevidence.com/capitol-protest-1-6-21/

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January 28, 2021, 10:59:50 PM
Last edit: January 28, 2021, 11:37:58 PM by TwitchySeal
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If you want to catch up with the latest ridiculous, laughable conspiracy theory nonsense,
simply, search for a Tzupy ..EXCLUSIVE: ... BREAKING: ...   link.

Click, shake head and chuckle....

Interesting, Tzupy never posted in politics until last month, wasn't active for months before that, and before that only posted in speculation.

Since December though, it's been only P&S, all kraken/qanon/covid denier posts.  

It is bizarre, but then again what's the difference between him and any of the other career insaneposters in this section? I can't see what the endgame would be other than making a fool of oneself, so it must just be mental illness.

I think we might be dealing with a newbie conspiracy fantacist (seems more appropriate than theorist).  Possibly a mentally healthy as recently as a few months ago.  If you just keep taking a couple sips of the kool aid every day for long enough, before you know it you'll be waiting for the kraken to be released.





Hereistheevidence aggregates evidence relating to the stolen election, and the Capitol riot.
https://hereistheevidence.com/capitol-protest-1-6-21/

Evidence of what?

First 4 that came up:



This is evidence that:

- The DC rally that the president organized and gave a speech at had a permit.
- Someone said "we will be entering the capital", before Trumps speech.


So what? What is this evidence of?

Also, a bunch of the election fraud 'evidence' is just taken directly from Trumps lawsuits (which were thrown out in court after court after court...) and quoted as if they were fact.  They're not fact.  They're the opposite.

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January 28, 2021, 11:36:43 PM
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Hereistheevidence aggregates evidence relating to the stolen election, and the Capitol riot.
https://hereistheevidence.com/capitol-protest-1-6-21/

Evidence of what?

First 4 that came up:



This is evidence that:

- The DC rally that the president organized and gave a speech at had a permit.
- Someone said "we will be entering the capital", before Trumps speech.


So what?

And a bunch of the election fraud 'evidence' is just taken directly from Trumps lawsuits (which were thrown out in court after court after court...) and quoted as if they were fact.  They're not fact.  They're the opposite.

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January 29, 2021, 01:28:13 AM
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If you want to catch up with the latest ridiculous, laughable conspiracy theory nonsense,
simply, search for a Tzupy ..EXCLUSIVE: ... BREAKING: ...   link.

Click, shake head and chuckle....

Interesting, Tzupy never posted in politics until last month, wasn't active for months before that, and before that only posted in speculation.

Since December though, it's been only P&S, all kraken/qanon/covid denier posts.  

It is bizarre, but then again what's the difference between him and any of the other career insaneposters in this section? I can't see what the endgame would be other than making a fool of oneself, so it must just be mental illness.

Ever since the flat earth thread got locked, I have to get my dose of laughable lunacy somewhere else on bitcointalk.
(not that I have to search that hard, TBH)
The p+s boards have not disappointed...

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January 31, 2021, 12:51:05 PM
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It's evidence of the truth, which you can't stop from being known, Agent Twitchy.

...Or should I say Comrade Twitchy...

What truth?

The truth.

There is only 1 truth and its the truth.

And that's the truth.

Truth, when all the gathered information is all in the forms of speculations and assumptions. The truth is right there sitting in the corner, and still you guys are fighting for something.

I've read the articles below, and it even says about a man afraid of being recorded in the riot. Who wouldn't be afraid of being recorded in the scene of the crime in the first place. The article is absurd, and full of contradictions.

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