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We just cannot blame them if they chose that path where risks are minimized and they can retire without any single loss in their whole career, although, they cannot also blame the people if they won't get any praises from what they expected because people really know what's the score. And in every bout that you avoid, people will also lose that respect because they will no longer believe that you are strong and haven't feared anybody. Just like what's happening with Errol Spence Jr. now.
If that's the decision they choose then so be it, I agree with your argument both ends have their respected rights in order to choose what they've believed. If fighter decided not to pick a risky matchup, then it is their right not to do it, while earning respect and praises from the fans might not be there but the money and the belts are enough as an achievement. It's their journey whatever path they choose to travel then we can't force them to change directions. Exactly, they have the right to do it because that is their life and as fans, we cannot really dictate what path should they take because they are also thinking of their safety. After all, boxing industry and other combat sports is still a business where the parties involved just wanted to make money as big as possible. Back on the topic, I'm already excited to see this fight and I bet it will be an explosive one because both parties is a knock-out artisan, and of course, after the fact that this bout is already possible after years of going back and forth, and throwing words at each other. Finally, they can settle this rivalry.
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And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two, “The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.” https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though. And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit.
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And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two, “The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.” https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though. And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit. I also believe that Ryan has the power to knock out just everyone in the ring but he lacks good names in his resume until now he has not fought for the title, there's one popular video that Haney wants him badly but his promoters are in the process of building up Ryan Garcia and Haney is one guy that can bust that build-up, so that is why so many of Ryan's fights are cherry-picked, right now he is just an Instagram champion, not a legitimate champion in the eyes of many boxing aficionados.
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December 27, 2022, 06:44:26 PM |
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And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two, “The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.” https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though. And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit. I also believe that Ryan has the power to knock out just everyone in the ring but he lacks good names in his resume until now he has not fought for the title, there's one popular video that Haney wants him badly but his promoters are in the process of building up Ryan Garcia and Haney is one guy that can bust that build-up, so that is why so many of Ryan's fights are cherry-picked, right now he is just an Instagram champion, not a legitimate champion in the eyes of many boxing aficionados. Well, we never know as there is always a first time for everything. This might be the first time for Ryan Garcia to add a good name in his resume and become a title holder, why not, right? I know that Gervonta Davis is a whole lot different monster too but Ryan Garcia do have a good shot in defeating the current title holder. So, maybe soon we can see Ryan Garcia climbing the ranks of the lightweight division.
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We just cannot blame them if they chose that path where risks are minimized and they can retire without any single loss in their whole career, although, they cannot also blame the people if they won't get any praises from what they expected because people really know what's the score. And in every bout that you avoid, people will also lose that respect because they will no longer believe that you are strong and haven't feared anybody. Just like what's happening with Errol Spence Jr. now.
If that's the decision they choose then so be it, I agree with your argument both ends have their respected rights in order to choose what they've believed. If fighter decided not to pick a risky matchup, then it is their right not to do it, while earning respect and praises from the fans might not be there but the money and the belts are enough as an achievement. It's their journey whatever path they choose to travel then we can't force them to change directions. Exactly, they have the right to do it because that is their life and as fans, we cannot really dictate what path should they take because they are also thinking of their safety. After all, boxing industry and other combat sports is still a business where the parties involved just wanted to make money as big as possible. Back on the topic, I'm already excited to see this fight and I bet it will be an explosive one because both parties is a knock-out artisan, and of course, after the fact that this bout is already possible after years of going back and forth, and throwing words at each other. Finally, they can settle this rivalry. Finally, they are in the negotiating process, unless Davis will be upset by another Garcia which is schedule to fight him early next year then we might see a change of directions. But it seems that the upcoming fight is just to warmed up Davis not sure though, I don't know the other Garcia. I'm more excited to see these fight to take place, just like what you are saying it's been a while for these two fighters, finally they are going to meet inside the ring.
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In general terms, I think that Gervonta wants to give herself a break and one of the best ways is to win her fight against Garcia, but we all know how Garcia reacts when they tell each other that they are trying to minimize him or that they are trying to tell him that he is below the standard. average or not up to Davis's level, I've seen Davis' style and it's very good, it's powerful, it's effective and above all I like his combinations, it also seems that he would fight without doing a routine or following a script or more well what is being said, he does not hype his movements, but innovates and always turns to surprise, and that is something that not all boxers have, because many manage and measure their strength, speed and resistance to avoid falling into a knockout or not run out of strength.
In another order of ideas, Gervonta Davis says something strong here: Gervonta Davis Believes Boxers Use Mental Health As An 'Excuse' To 'Get Out Of Stuff'Garcia, 24, has been open since then about the importance of addressing mental health, even in the hardened world of boxing. Davis doesn’t buy it.
“You never heard no back-in-the-day fighter talk about mental health,” Davis said following his training session at 5th Ave. Gym in Miami Beach, Florida. “I think boxing people is the most, probably, the most – we need mental health to actually come in the ring and fight and things like that. I think we probably the most, the toughest out of the whole like combat sports. You know what I mean?
“I feel as though that people just was saying that to get out of stuff. Yeah, like a excuse because I feel as though like we all, to be honest, we all have like mental health [issues]. But I think [in] boxing we control it. You know how it is. You know what I mean?” Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-believes-boxers-use-mental-health-an-excuse-get-out-stuff--171408
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And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two, “The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.” https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though. And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit. Of course he will ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Joe could praise Ryan Garcia about his capabilities forever and talk about who's got more heavier punch between Ryan and Gervonta but Joe forgot that that's not the only thing that matters because somebody can throw a much heavier punch but there will be always that somebody too that can withstand those heavy punch that could lead to a KO. Talking about the ability to withstand, I bet Ryan Garcia doesn't have that.
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And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two, “The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.” https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though. And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit. Of course he will ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Joe could praise Ryan Garcia about his capabilities forever and talk about who's got more heavier punch between Ryan and Gervonta but Joe forgot that that's not the only thing that matters because somebody can throw a much heavier punch but there will be always that somebody too that can withstand those heavy punch that could lead to a KO. Talking about the ability to withstand, I bet Ryan Garcia doesn't have that. We will only know the answer once they already throwing punches, right? for now, let's wait for the schedule to take place all the speculation and opinions are accepted. But to conclude who's heavier or who have that strong punches, and who ca withstand in between, that can be realized when we witness them fighting. Let see if those words are accurate for Ryan or it might be Davis that will earn the respect.
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The fight might be in jeopardy because of this news. The 28-year-old Tank Davis (27-0, 25 KOs) was arrested on Tuesday, and a mug shot was taken of him by the police department.
It’s unknown at this stage whether Tank Davis’ arrest will impact his January 7th fight against the unbeaten Hector Garcia (16-0, 10 KOs) or, more importantly, his April 15th match against Ryan Garcia on Showtime PPV.
This isn’t the first time Gervonta Davis has had issues with law enforcement. In 2020, Tank was charged with battery. That same year in November 2020, he allegedly was involved in a hit & run accident. https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/tank-davis-arrested-charged-with-battery/256144So it might impact his fight with Ryan Garcia, and if this happens, then it's going to be a disaster for the promoters as they could have been spending millions already for promotion already Tank Davis will also have a tune up fight with Hector Garcia in the first week of January. Maybe this fight will be cancelled, but not sure how long will this case last that it could affect this fight as well.
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I'm not a lawyer but I'm thinking this scenario
1. Davis appeared in court, pleads No Contest and maybe the judge will just issue him a community service and pay? 2. Davis settle this out of court and pay the victim?
So possible that his tune up with Hector Garcia will not happened, but the biggest fight against Ryan Garcia can still push through around April-May if his lawyer can get him a good deal, without longer jail sentence, hopefully.
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^^ Possible, but the hearing in this case could be very close to the date of his fight against Hector that I speculate that the fight might not happen. And probably the promotions are scrambling to look for fighters that can replaced Davis just in case if they don't want the fight to be totally X out in January 7 because everything has been set up.
And for sure, he will hire a great lawyer for this case, that will able to get him a good bargain with the judges and yeah, his fight with Ryan will be brought into the picture for sure and let the judge know that this is a huge fight that needs to happen and take that chance that the judge will decide in favor of them, who knows.
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I'm not a lawyer but I'm thinking this scenario
1. Davis appeared in court, pleads No Contest and maybe the judge will just issue him a community service and pay? 2. Davis settle this out of court and pay the victim?
So possible that his tune up with Hector Garcia will not happened, but the biggest fight against Ryan Garcia can still push through around April-May if his lawyer can get him a good deal, without longer jail sentence, hopefully.
The 2nd scenario is more likely than the 1st one, but if the victim will not accept the payment and still forces that a trial should decide what will happen to him then Davis and his camp have no choice anymore but to go in the 1st scenario stated where his situation is at the hands of the presiding judge and plead. Surely, Davis have the money needed to hire one of the best attorney, so maybe his case will turns out favorable to his side. But I'm afraid that his fight against Hector Garcia this January will be sacrificed because of this incident.
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In general terms, I think that Gervonta wants to give herself a break and one of the best ways is to win her fight against Garcia, but we all know how Garcia reacts when they tell each other that they are trying to minimize him or that they are trying to tell him that he is below the standard. average or not up to Davis's level, I've seen Davis' style and it's very good, it's powerful, it's effective and above all I like his combinations, it also seems that he would fight without doing a routine or following a script or more well what is being said, he does not hype his movements, but innovates and always turns to surprise, and that is something that not all boxers have, because many manage and measure their strength, speed and resistance to avoid falling into a knockout or not run out of strength.
In another order of ideas, Gervonta Davis says something strong here: Gervonta Davis Believes Boxers Use Mental Health As An 'Excuse' To 'Get Out Of Stuff'Garcia, 24, has been open since then about the importance of addressing mental health, even in the hardened world of boxing. Davis doesn’t buy it.
“You never heard no back-in-the-day fighter talk about mental health,” Davis said following his training session at 5th Ave. Gym in Miami Beach, Florida. “I think boxing people is the most, probably, the most – we need mental health to actually come in the ring and fight and things like that. I think we probably the most, the toughest out of the whole like combat sports. You know what I mean?
“I feel as though that people just was saying that to get out of stuff. Yeah, like a excuse because I feel as though like we all, to be honest, we all have like mental health [issues]. But I think [in] boxing we control it. You know how it is. You know what I mean?” Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-believes-boxers-use-mental-health-an-excuse-get-out-stuff--171408Maybe seeing Garcia being defeated could mean another achievement for Davis. But honestly speaking, Davis don’t have to prove to himself and break a leg because he always have said to the audience that Ryan Garcia is not a complete fighter that will be able to beat him. Of course, Davis has been making excellent performances in his previous fights and that beating Garcia is never hard for him he thinks. And the good thing about Davis is that he always made it to practice and improve his craft so he can always be prepared in all his fights.
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I'm not a lawyer but I'm thinking this scenario
1. Davis appeared in court, pleads No Contest and maybe the judge will just issue him a community service and pay? 2. Davis settle this out of court and pay the victim?
So possible that his tune up with Hector Garcia will not happened, but the biggest fight against Ryan Garcia can still push through around April-May if his lawyer can get him a good deal, without longer jail sentence, hopefully.
The 2nd scenario is more likely than the 1st one, but if the victim will not accept the payment and still forces that a trial should decide what will happen to him then Davis and his camp have no choice anymore but to go in the 1st scenario stated where his situation is at the hands of the presiding judge and plead. Surely, Davis have the money needed to hire one of the best attorney, so maybe his case will turns out favorable to his side. But I'm afraid that his fight against Hector Garcia this January will be sacrificed because of this incident. You forget to include a 3rd scenario, wherein the accuser drop her charges against Davis and this is what eventually happen as Vanessa Posso, the mother of Davis’ daughter, changes her stance and said that Gervonta did hurt her and their daughter, so this is the end of the story and it's good to hear that it's a positive note for Davis because it will really have a big effect on his career if ever this cases proceed because it will drag his name and reputation and obviously his career as a boxer. So we are all good now and hopefully the fight with Hector Garcia first will go on. And after he wins, then they can talk smuck against Ryan Garcia in public again and continue to hurl insults against each other.
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December 31, 2022, 01:34:23 AM |
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And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two, “The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.” https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though. And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit. Of course he will ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Joe could praise Ryan Garcia about his capabilities forever and talk about who's got more heavier punch between Ryan and Gervonta but Joe forgot that that's not the only thing that matters because somebody can throw a much heavier punch but there will be always that somebody too that can withstand those heavy punch that could lead to a KO. Talking about the ability to withstand, I bet Ryan Garcia doesn't have that. We will only know the answer once they already throwing punches, right? for now, let's wait for the schedule to take place all the speculation and opinions are accepted. But to conclude who's heavier or who have that strong punches, and who ca withstand in between, that can be realized when we witness them fighting. Let see if those words are accurate for Ryan or it might be Davis that will earn the respect. Nobody here have said or concluded about the outcome mate, what we're talking here are just mere speculations and who got the upper hand that will likely help either one of them in their campaign. Even if we say who are we rooting for, it won't still guarantee that they'll be the ones who will get favored. It's still gonna be a long night of fighting for the both stated boxers.
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December 31, 2022, 08:30:50 AM |
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I'm not a lawyer but I'm thinking this scenario
1. Davis appeared in court, pleads No Contest and maybe the judge will just issue him a community service and pay? 2. Davis settle this out of court and pay the victim?
So possible that his tune up with Hector Garcia will not happened, but the biggest fight against Ryan Garcia can still push through around April-May if his lawyer can get him a good deal, without longer jail sentence, hopefully.
The 2nd scenario is more likely than the 1st one, but if the victim will not accept the payment and still forces that a trial should decide what will happen to him then Davis and his camp have no choice anymore but to go in the 1st scenario stated where his situation is at the hands of the presiding judge and plead. Surely, Davis have the money needed to hire one of the best attorney, so maybe his case will turns out favorable to his side. But I'm afraid that his fight against Hector Garcia this January will be sacrificed because of this incident. You forget to include a 3rd scenario, wherein the accuser drop her charges against Davis and this is what eventually happen as Vanessa Posso, the mother of Davis’ daughter, changes her stance and said that Gervonta did hurt her and their daughter, so this is the end of the story and it's good to hear that it's a positive note for Davis because it will really have a big effect on his career if ever this cases proceed because it will drag his name and reputation and obviously his career as a boxer. So we are all good now and hopefully the fight with Hector Garcia first will go on. And after he wins, then they can talk smuck against Ryan Garcia in public again and continue to hurl insults against each other. Ok so that is good to hear, if the case has been drop because the accuser change her deposition then Davis is vindicated now. And as we can hear from the public, it seems that he has been judge already as guilty as something. So yes, good news for Davis fans, and now he can go back and focus on Hector Garcia in the first week of January. We all know that this is not going to be an easy fight for him, although it is deem as tune up fights.
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December 31, 2022, 09:12:56 AM |
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The fight might be in jeopardy because of this news. The 28-year-old Tank Davis (27-0, 25 KOs) was arrested on Tuesday, and a mug shot was taken of him by the police department.
It’s unknown at this stage whether Tank Davis’ arrest will impact his January 7th fight against the unbeaten Hector Garcia (16-0, 10 KOs) or, more importantly, his April 15th match against Ryan Garcia on Showtime PPV.
This isn’t the first time Gervonta Davis has had issues with law enforcement. In 2020, Tank was charged with battery. That same year in November 2020, he allegedly was involved in a hit & run accident. https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/tank-davis-arrested-charged-with-battery/256144So it might impact his fight with Ryan Garcia, and if this happens, then it's going to be a disaster for the promoters as they could have been spending millions already for promotion already Tank Davis will also have a tune up fight with Hector Garcia in the first week of January. Maybe this fight will be cancelled, but not sure how long will this case last that it could affect this fight as well. Most likely this will affect his reputation as a boxer, and even the upcoming fights that are in line with him. If not cancelled, since the audience are undeniably waiting for the match to happen, I guess Tank Davis will also face negative criticisms after the fight. But I don’t think his preparation for the match and his performance in the ring will also be affected as he will always be an outstanding boxer regardless of his current issues.
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December 31, 2022, 09:27:05 AM |
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Most likely this will affect his reputation as a boxer, and even the upcoming fights that are in line with him. If not cancelled, since the audience are undeniably waiting for the match to happen, I guess Tank Davis will also face negative criticisms after the fight. But I don’t think his preparation for the match and his performance in the ring will also be affected as he will always be an outstanding boxer regardless of his current issues.
The case has been resolved and Gervonta Davis already free, but his reputation might ruined. It's better for him to quit social medias since he might get a lot criticism including when he's in outside and meet people who knew this case. Even he's professional and know to not taking it as a personal, but I believe it's still affect his mental even though just a tiny portion. He should fight with Garcia, otherwise his name might fall.
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December 31, 2022, 10:57:18 AM |
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Most likely this will affect his reputation as a boxer, and even the upcoming fights that are in line with him. If not cancelled, since the audience are undeniably waiting for the match to happen, I guess Tank Davis will also face negative criticisms after the fight. But I don’t think his preparation for the match and his performance in the ring will also be affected as he will always be an outstanding boxer regardless of his current issues.
The case has been resolved and Gervonta Davis already free, but his reputation might ruined. It's better for him to quit social medias since he might get a lot criticism including when he's in outside and meet people who knew this case. Even he's professional and know to not taking it as a personal, but I believe it's still affect his mental even though just a tiny portion. He should fight with Garcia, otherwise his name might fall. I couldn't remove the idea that there is a coordinated attack on Davis. Things are just too coincidental. Family trouble will always affect personal life and maybe he would blame himself for what happened. After bailing an article came out from his accuser claiming he did not harm her nor his daughter. But both parties might just have an agreement, probably on money I guess which is usually the case. If there is a chance for Hector Vs Tank, it's not yet announced. https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/12/30/23532948/woman-who-accused-gervonta-davis-domestic-violence-now-claims-he-did-not-harm-her-boxing-news-2022
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December 31, 2022, 02:08:36 PM |
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Most likely this will affect his reputation as a boxer, and even the upcoming fights that are in line with him. If not cancelled, since the audience are undeniably waiting for the match to happen, I guess Tank Davis will also face negative criticisms after the fight. But I don’t think his preparation for the match and his performance in the ring will also be affected as he will always be an outstanding boxer regardless of his current issues.
The case has been resolved and Gervonta Davis already free, but his reputation might ruined. It's better for him to quit social medias since he might get a lot criticism including when he's in outside and meet people who knew this case. Even he's professional and know to not taking it as a personal, but I believe it's still affect his mental even though just a tiny portion. He should fight with Garcia, otherwise his name might fall. I couldn't remove the idea that there is a coordinated attack on Davis. Things are just too coincidental. Family trouble will always affect personal life and maybe he would blame himself for what happened. After bailing an article came out from his accuser claiming he did not harm her nor his daughter. But both parties might just have an agreement, probably on money I guess which is usually the case. If there is a chance for Hector Vs Tank, it's not yet announced. https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/12/30/23532948/woman-who-accused-gervonta-davis-domestic-violence-now-claims-he-did-not-harm-her-boxing-news-2022Okay, so there's no problem anymore and the fight of Davis vs Garcia will happen next year. And yes mate, it could be just for the money, nowadays, most things will work in your favor if you have the money, that's the best way to silence people but some people will also try to trick you to get your money, just like in the case of Davis. Anyway, it's just his personal life, outside boxing but we should be happy with the development.
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