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[Overview] Sportsbooks odds/margin comparisons (Esports edition)

**Disclaimer: I am not vouching for any of the bookmakers listed in this post. Do your own research before playing in any of these betting sites.
*** Comparison tables format are based off of DarkStar_'s Overview of Bitcoin Accepting Sportsbooks thread.


Contents (click to go to that section of the overview)

What is Margin
Tools used for the odds/margins comparison
Markets used
Type of events used
Games used
Sportsbooks used and small overview
    Crypto Sportsbooks & Casinos
    Esports bookies
Margins comparison
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
League of Legends
Dota 2
Rocket League
Overwatch
Rainbow Six Siege
Starcraft II
Brood War
Valorant
Hearthstone
Warcraft III
-Misc-

What is Margin

From Wikipedia:
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Vigorish (also known as juice, under-juice, the cut, the take, the margin, the house edge or simply the vig) is the fee charged by a bookmaker (or bookie) for accepting a gambler's wager.

Pinnacle also explain what Margin is here and they also have a very helpful article explaining "Sports betting profitability and the affect of margins"

TL;DR: lower margins means higher potential profits over time. To maximize your winnings, you want to go to the bookmaker offering the best odds/lower margins.

Tools used for the odds/margins comparison

Pinnacle's Margin Calculator
https://www.pinnacle.com/en/betting-resources/betting-tools/margin-calculator

Markets used

The three most popular markets in Esports betting:

1) Match Winner
2) Map Handicap
3) Total maps

Type of events used

I picked the highest tier tournament for each Esport that i could find over the last few months. These are the type of tournaments that everyone will be watching and betting on given their importance in the circuit. So, i figure the bookmakers would try to compete with each other to offer the best odds in these tournaments, more especifically, in the Grand Finals of each tourney, so that they can attract more punters, which is why i thought that it the best opportunity to check and compare their margins.

Games used

Current games: League of Legends, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, Dota 2, Starcraft II, Starcraft Brood War, Rocket League, Overwatch, Rainbow Six, Valorant, Hearthstone, Warcraft III

May be added in the future: Quake, Fortnite, FIFA, Diabotical, Street Fighter V, Apex, Smash Bros

Sportsbooks used and small overview

I'll be using two different categories to list all the different bookies that i used in this comparison thread (click sportsbook logo to go to their website):

1) Crypto sportsbooks & casinos

I chose these books because they are some of the most popular and well-established sites in the crypto gambling space. These books offer a wide variety of esports games, decent betting markets and many options to deposit in crypto. ("i don't see X or Y bookie, where is it?" read here)

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Coins
Games available
ANN thread
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2) Esports books

I picked these because some of them are among the most popular esports-focused and crypto friendly bookmakers out there, some others have been around in this for a long time. Most of these bookies offer extremely good betting markets in all the big titles like CSGO, LoL and Dota, they also offer many promotions and bonuses focused entirely on esports, and, as you'll see in the table below, most of them have a wider games offering than the crypto sportsbooks & casinos.

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Coins
Games available
ANN thread
N/A

N/A
N/A
N/A

Margins comparison

Here's a link to a spreadsheet with all the raw data I used + some notes here and there.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V6kMsB-mhltqh-te0SVcYwA8yayLYSFB3jGHLKVktM0

- Blank spaces in the tables mean that the bookmaker did not offer that market.
- If you don't see a bookmaker in a comparison table is because the site either didn't offer the tourney that I used to calculate margins (and i couldn't find another tourney to fill in the blanks) or it doesn't offer that specific game.
- If you see two or more bookies with the exact same odds, it wasn't a typo, some of these bookies use the same odds provider and they'll more often than not offer the same odds in certain lines.

I'll try to update ALL the margins on a monthly basis or whenever there's a top tier tournament ongoing (so you might wanna bookmark this thread in case you're interested in future margins updates). I may use rounding in the next updates rather than using one single match to gather the data.

Continue below... (i had to split the posts because you get a forum error when trying to post too many of tables)

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Part 1:

Contents:
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
League of Legends
Dota 2
Rocket League
Overwatch
Rainbow Six Siege

*lowest margin in bold*
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

Event used: Intel Extreme Masters Season XV - Global Challenge - Grand Final - Astralis vs Team Liquid

Crypto Sportsbooks & Casinos
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Match Winner
| |
Total Maps
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Map Handicap
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Sportsbet.io
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8.89%
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8.97%
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9.15%
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Fortunejack
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7.73%
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7.86%
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7.96%
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Bitsler
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7.73%
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7.86%
||
7.96%
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Betnomi
|
8.29%
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8.18%
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8.15%
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Betcoin.ag
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7.82
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7.71
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7.96
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Stake
|
7.37%
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6.49%
||
7.14%
|
Cloudbet
|
7.19%
||
6.79%
||
7.14%
|
Esports books
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Match Winner
| |
Total Maps
||
Map Handicap
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NitrogenSports
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4.77%
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6.56%
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5.50%
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Loot.Bet
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7.03%
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8.05%
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7.98%
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EGB
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8.16%
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7.86%
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7.79%
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Cyber.bet
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7.37%
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7.71%
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7.96%
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Thunderpick
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10.06%
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8.39%
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11.28%
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Luckbox
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10.54%
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8.97%
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9.16%
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Arcanebet
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5.09%
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8.49%
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8.00%
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BetOnBit
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8.59%
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8.69%
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8.90%
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League of Legends

Event used: Worlds 2020 Final - DAMWON vs Suning

Crypto Sportsbooks & Casinos
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Match Winner
| |
Total Maps
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Map Handicap
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Sportsbet.io
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7.14%
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6.64%
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5.89%
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Fortunejack
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7.79
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8.04%
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7.88%
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Bitsler
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7.79%
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9.09%
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9.06%
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Betnomi
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8.18%
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8.18%
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8.11%
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Betcoin.ag
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6.26%
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6.01%
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5.89%
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Stake
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7.14%
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8.31%
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7.88%
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Cloudbet
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7.27%
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7.02%
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7.03%
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Esports books
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Match Winner
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Total Maps
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Map Handicap
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NitrogenSports
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6.71
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5.80%
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6.32%
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Loot.Bet
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7.02%
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6.86%
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6.95%
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EGB
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7.36%
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N/A
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6.64%
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Cyber.bet
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7.64%
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8.07%
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8.16%
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Thunderpick
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8.60%
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9.20%
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11.11%
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Luckbox
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5.64%
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8.56%
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7.28%
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Arcanebet
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7.79%
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8.31%
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7.88%
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BetOnBit
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11.75%
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11.13%
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11.37%
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Dota 2

Event used: EPIC League Division 1 - Grand Final - Virtus.Pro vs OG

Crypto Sportsbooks & Casinos
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Match Winner
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Total Maps
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Map Handicap
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Sportsbet.io
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7.99%
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7.89%
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7.67%
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Fortunejack
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7.99%
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7.89%
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7.81%
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Bitsler
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6.01%
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7.58%
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6.76%
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Betnomi
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8.42%
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8.31%
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8.18%
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Betcoin.ag
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7.99
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7.89
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7.67
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Stake
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7.15%
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7.89%
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7.67%
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Cloudbet
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7.15%
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6.95%
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6.76%
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Esports books
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Match Winner
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Total Maps
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Map Handicap
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NitrogenSports
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6.01%
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5.88%
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6.00%
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Loot.Bet
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6.98%
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8.02%
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7.79%
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EGB
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5.34%
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10.15%
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11.94%
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Cyber.bet
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7.15%
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7.89%
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7.67%
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Thunderpick
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11.11%
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8.03%
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8.60%
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Luckbox
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7.84%
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8.03%
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7.53%
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Arcanebet
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7.99%
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7.89%
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7.67%
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BetOnBit
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14.08%
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13.79%
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14.30%
|

Rocket League

Event used: RLCS Season X - Winter: North America Regional Event 2 - Playoffs - Losers' Quarterfinals - G2 vs Spacestation Gaming

Crypto Sportsbooks & Casinos
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Match Winner
| |
Total Maps
||
Map Handicap
|
Sportsbet.io
|
8.11%
||
N/A
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N/A
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Fortunejack
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8.11%
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N/A
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N/A
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Betnomi
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8.14%
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8.07%%
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8.30%
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Betcoin.ag
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8.11%
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N/A
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N/A
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Cloudbet
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5.82%
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N/A
||
N/A
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Esports books
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Match Winner
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Total Maps
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Map Handicap
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NitrogenSports
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6.95%
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6.83%
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6.84%
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Loot.Bet
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7.07%
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8.04%
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7.95%
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EGB
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7.53%
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N/A
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N/A
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Cyber.bet
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8.11%
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N/A
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N/A
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Thunderpick
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8.11%
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7.65%
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11.40%
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Luckbox
|
7.53%
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8.56%
||
N/A
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Overwatch

Event used: Overwatch League 2020 - Grand Finals - San Francisco Shock vs Seoul Dynasty

Crypto Sportsbooks & Casinos
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Match Winner
| |
Total Maps
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Map Handicap
|
Sportsbet.io
|
7.76%
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N/A
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N/A
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Fortunejack
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7.76%
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N/A
||
N/A
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Bitsler
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6.83%
||
N/A
||
N/A
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Betnomi
|
8.16%
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8.03%
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8.47%
|
Betcoin.ag
|
5.91%
||
N/A
||
N/A
|
Cloudbet
|
6.83%
||
N/A
||
N/A
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Esports books
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Match Winner
| |
Total Maps
||
Map Handicap
|
NitrogenSports
|
5.25%
||
6.17%
||
5.97%
|
Loot.Bet
|
6.99%
||
N/A
||
7.98%
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EGB
|
6.40%
||
N/A
||
N/A
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Cyber.bet
|
5.01%
||
N/A
||
N/A
|
Thunderpick
|
7.65%
||
N/A
||
N/A
|
Arcanebet
|
7.76%
||
N/A
||
N/A
|
BetOnBit
|
11.23%
||
10.91%
||
10.98%
|

Rainbow Six Siege

Event used: European League 2020 - Stage 2 - Virtus.Pro vs BDS Esport

Crypto Sportsbooks & Casinos
|
Match Winner
|
Sportsbet.io
|
7.55%
|
Fortunejack
|
7.95%
|
Betnomi
|
8.34%
|
Betcoin.ag
|
7.95%
|
Stake
|
7.95%
|
Cloudbet
|
6.17%
|
Esports books
|
Match Winner
|
NitrogenSports
|
9.84%
|
Loot.Bet
|
6.95%
|
EGB
|
9.19%
|
Cyber.bet
|
7.16%
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Thunderpick
|
8.14%
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Luckbox
|
8.57%
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Arcanebet
|
10.21%
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Continue below...

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Last edit: March 31, 2021, 03:23:20 PM by tomahawk9
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Part 2:

Contents:
Starcraft II
Brood War
Valorant
Hearthstone
Warcraft III
-Misc-

*lowest margin in bold*
Starcraft II

Event used: 2020 Global StarCraft II League Season 3 Finals - TY vs Maru

Crypto Sportsbooks & Casinos
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Match Winner
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Total Maps
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Map Handicap
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Sportsbet.io
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7.80%
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N/A
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N/A
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Fortunejack
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7.80%
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N/A
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N/A
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Betnomi
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7.97%
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8.37%
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7.92%
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Betcoin.ag
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6.18%
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N/A
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N/A
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Stake
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7.78%
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N/A
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N/A
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Cloudbet
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7.78%
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N/A
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N/A
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Esports books
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Match Winner
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Total Maps
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Map Handicap
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NitrogenSports
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7.74%
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7.15%
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6.75%
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Loot.Bet
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7.02%
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7.91%
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7.93%
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EGB
|
5.91%
||
N/A
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6.31%
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Cyber.bet
|
5.49%
||
N/A
||
N/A
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Thunderpick
|
7.60%
||
7.38%
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11.87%
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Luckbox
|
8.19%
||
8.78%
||
9.36%
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Arcanebet
|
14.86%
||
N/A
||
N/A
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BetOnBit
|
11.23%
||
11.64%
||
11.24%
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Brood War

Event used: AfreecaTV Starleague Season 10 - Final - Soma vs Zer0

Crypto Sportsbooks & Casinos
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Match Winner
| |
Total Maps
||
Map Handicap
|
Sportsbet.io
|
7.82%
||
N/A
||
N/A
|
Fortunejack
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7.82%
||
N/A
||
N/A
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Bitsler
|
5.95%
||
N/A
||
N/A
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Betnomi
|
7.99%
||
8.14%
||
8.33%
|
Betcoin.ag
|
5.95%
||
N/A
||
N/A
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Stake
|
8.19%
||
N/A
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N/A
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Cloudbet
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7.09%
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N/A
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N/A
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Esports books
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Match Winner
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Total Maps
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Map Handicap
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NitrogenSports
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6.79%
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7.14%
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7.00%
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Loot.Bet
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6.95%
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7.91%
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7.98%
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Cyber.bet
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5.25%
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N/A
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N/A
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Luckbox
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8.84%
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N/A
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N/A
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Arcanebet
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14.98%
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N/A
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N/A
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Valorant

Event used: First Strike North America - Final - TSM vs 100 Thieves

Crypto Sportsbooks & Casinos
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Match Winner
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Total Maps
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Map Handicap
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Betnomi
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8.22%
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8.18%
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8.31%
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Esports books
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Match Winner
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Total Maps
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Map Handicap
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NitrogenSports
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6.75%
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6.94%
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7.14%
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Loot.Bet
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6.94%
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7.99%
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8.16%
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EGB
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7.64%
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N/A
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N/A
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Thunderpick
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7.73%
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7.65%
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11.43%
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Hearthstone

Event used: World Championship 2020 - Group Stage - Decider Match Group A - XiaoT vs Glory

Crypto Sportsbooks & Casinos
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Match Winner
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Fortunejack
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8.00%
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Betcoin.ag
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8.00%
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Esports books
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Match Winner
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NitrogenSports
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6.92%
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Loot.Bet
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7.02%
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Cyber.bet
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5.82%
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Thunderpick
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7.60%
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Luckbox
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7.63%
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BetOnBit
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8.82%
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Warcraft III

Event used: Huya Master Invitational - Finals - Chaemiko vs FoCuS

Crypto Sportsbooks & Casinos
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Match Winner
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Betnomi
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8.19%
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Esports books
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Match Winner
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Total Maps
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NitrogenSports
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7.13%
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7.09%
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EGB
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7.63%
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N/A
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Misc

- I skipped some sportsbooks because: 1) low esports offering, 2) it's an up-and-coming book, 3) I had a bad experience with it so i didn't want to add them to this overview. But, I may have missed a few others simply because i don't use them. I'll try to include more sportsbooks in upcoming updates (no promises, though)

- I may add some more stuff in the future like market coverage in both pre-match and inplay, wagering limits, avg bet grading times, odds comparison with the top esports fiat bookies like Pinnacle and GGbet

- Source for every game icon here. Cryptocurrency icons from Cryptologos

- If you spot any mistakes or you got any questions, advices, suggestions, requests, just pm me or leave a comment (:

- Wanna talk about esports and whatnot? Check out the Esports discussion thread

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January 09, 2021, 09:01:22 PM
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It's worth noting that the book with the lowest margins won't necessarily have the best odds, and that it's still best to shop around. Lower margins mean that they have a higher chance of having the best odds for a selection. For example:


Nitrogen and Stake both have a ~7.7% margin on the Winner market for this event, but there's an obvious better choice depending on which side you wanted to bet. Combining Stake and Nitrogen's best odds offerings, we get a margin of only 2.78%.

BitOdds (screenshot was from BitOdds) and BestOdds are two sites that have some odds comparisons for ESports, though they're both pretty limited for event, market and sportsbook coverage.

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any feedback is appreciated
would anyone like to see a new table showcasing Industry Average margin + Highest/Lowest and compare all books? it would help to visualize and keep track of sites that improved (or not) their margins and check how close they are to the average, i would update it on a monthly basis with the rest of the tables

It's worth noting that the book with the lowest margins won't necessarily have the best odds, and that it's still best to shop around.
this is so key to also maximize profits in the long-term, but unfortunately, a lot of people are still not keen on the idea because 1) the brand loyalty towards a bookie is pretty strong cos ppl don't like to step out of the comfort zone their fav site provides (cos of the payouts, UI, market coverage, etc) and 2) it can be a bit of a hassle to shop around without a proper tool sometimes

BitOdds and BestOdds are pretty good sites to shop for odds, but man their esport offering is lacking a bit right now...whish i knew how to code so i can offer some help and get things rolling before the offseason comes and end  Cheesy

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