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January 10, 2021, 03:38:41 AM
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Does a curfew help prevent the spread of the virus? (assuming this is directly virus related).
I often go for walks very late or very early when there's few out just because there's less people out and less chance of catching or spreading the virus (for obvious reasons) - how is going out between those hours going to do anything other than mean everyone's going for walks/shopping etc at the same time because they have a smaller amount of time to do it in.
I also don't get how such curfew help to stop spread of virus. In my country there is lockdown, but not curfew and streets is almost empty in the late evening and night. It's simply because basically there is no places where people can go - everything is closed, except essential shops. Also, there is winter outside the window, so probably there is not much what you can do on cold night outside.
And I'm against work hours limit for shops. When it works all day long, you can choose time to go shopping when there is less people there, for example early morning or late evening. While if it will work for few hours only, obviously there will be much more people in the shop at the same time and bigger chance to get virus.

limiting venues from 18 hours (6am-midnight) to only 9 hours (9am-5pm) is about halving the risk.
if government had ways to economically support the venues and ways to distribute essential produce via delivery instead of store visit. the government would want 0 hours to completely void any chance of spread in those venues. but this is not always possible so limiting the risk is next best plan

the idea is to get people to not loiter in the streets/venues all day and night. and instead be very choosy about when they should venture out.
EG (2020) usually going daily to a grocery store and buy just 1 day of snacks. but instead go once a week to buy a week of snacks. decreases the number of people by 7x
having people get things delivered instead of going to the store also reduces the amount of people out by a few multiples..
its all about reducing the amount of people out in public

EG (2021)the reason for curfews and limiting opening hours is pretty much because people like you actually want to go out often in the early morning/evening.. to avoid the day time ventures
the lockdown restrictions are stay home. but people like you are looking for ways to go out in the evening. and when too many like minded people all decide to go out in the evening to avoid going out during day. guess what. spreader events occur in the evenings and so curfew are then implemented to stop that.

yep.. people took the 2020 advice and now using/abusing it to go out at night to avoid going out in day.

so dont be planning daily store visits and complain how they are packed with people. to then want night time visits
instead plan a weekly visit. heck even prep a shopping list to avoid time loitering in stores. heck even plan to have food delivered
dont be the fools avoiding daytime shopping just to cause nighttime surges.

UK retailers have this thing called 'click and collect' whereby instead of you spending an hour in a grocery store hand picking things and loitering while you decide. you get the store staff to do the picking from your shopping list you decided on at home. and you just turn up to pay and take your shopping bags. (1 hour loitering turns into 5 minutes instore)
thus reducing your exposure to other shoppers by 12x

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January 10, 2021, 04:44:35 AM
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Ontario looking into it. Quebec already have curfew.

THIS IS BULL SHIT, WE SHOULD HANG THESE MOTHER FUCKERS.

$6000 fine is unrealistic or they have set the fine to much high so no one dare to come out of house. Also these government thinks that covid 19 will be eliminated by this restriction ? What about the people dying of hunger and unemployment as if they cant go out, they could not earn their livings.

for clarification. its a curfew to stop aimless loitering.
for people needing to work/walk their dog/ refuel their car. go to the pharmacy. they still can do.
but if your aimlessly loiitering with no purpose expect a $750 fine
if you obstruct police by being an idiot arguing over the fine. you can be fined a further $1000
if you are organising a gathering. your fine is even more.

its not $6k for just opening your front door. and being spotted


Yes, the fine is not fixed at 6000$ and is being wrongly presented here. You will get fine according to your violation and it is something not to be surprised. Many government takes such steps otherwise its hard for people to stop. Remember there is a fine if you violate any traffic rules and most people just do not violate the rules only due to the fear of paying the fine. Imagine if there was no fine, how many people will still follow the traffic rules ?
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January 10, 2021, 11:08:38 PM
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Ontario looking into it. Quebec already have curfew.

THIS IS BULL SHIT, WE SHOULD HANG THESE MOTHER FUCKERS.

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January 10, 2021, 11:15:11 PM
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Ontario looking into it. Quebec already have curfew.

THIS IS BULL SHIT, WE SHOULD HANG THESE MOTHER FUCKERS.

"The True North strong and free" indeed.

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January 14, 2021, 08:51:12 PM
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Does a curfew help prevent the spread of the virus? (assuming this is directly virus related).
I often go for walks very late or very early when there's few out just because there's less people out and less chance of catching or spreading the virus (for obvious reasons) - how is going out between those hours going to do anything other than mean everyone's going for walks/shopping etc at the same time because they have a smaller amount of time to do it in.

Pretty sure most of these curfews are in place to stop people from going out at night — meaning going out to dinner, bars, friends houses for late night meetus, and so on and so forth.

People going on a walk late at night is not going to spread the virus, but a late night meetup at a friends house is probably going to involve a lot of people (10 or so) from different areas all eating, drinking / smoking, etc and spreading the virus to one another if they have it.

I’ve heard from my Canadian friends that things were getting strict up there, but didn’t know the curfew was that early.




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