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January 14, 2021, 05:51:08 AM
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Since the COVID-19 vaccination began, Dakrnet has regularly offered vaccine purchases at different prices.

https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-vaccines-for-sale-dark-web-coronavirus-shot-2020-12

Yesterday's news reports the sale of the vaccine for $1,000 in bitcoins.

https://www.businessinsider.com/vendors-sell-covid-vaccines-for-bitcoin-2021-1?r=US&IR=T

What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry

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January 14, 2021, 06:41:29 AM
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This definitely just a water put into a vaccine bottle to make it look like they were really selling vaccines, they might even put the chemical name of water in that, to make sure that no one will be a victim of this. AFAIK only governments are the only one that can do a transaction with the pharmaceutical companies when it comes to vaccines so be vigilant about this cause most of them are fake, especially in the Darknet where scams is as abundant as websites.

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January 14, 2021, 06:45:50 AM
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And also where did the scammers get the vaccines?
These vaccines they sell may be inferior and not edible for the human consumptions seller of that type will not consider what it does to who takes it, for them -fake vaccines sellers- its about making money from the vaccines, really anyone buying the vaccines I don't pity them for the money they lost but what the reaction on their body system after intake of the vaccines would be.

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Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
+ ignorant people
+ people always against government
+ anxious, scared to wait, people
+ company's that need their workers to avoid wait
They are many types and set of people that will purchase such killer vaccines, its madness to buy vaccine on Darkweb.

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January 14, 2021, 06:54:03 AM
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Black markets are... black markets. They'll always find a way to sell anything at any given price. If people trust purchasing drugs through them, why are we surprised that they're purchasing vaccines as well?

The vaccine might be free in most countries, but for example in mine you have to sign up and wait in line for it. Hence, purchasing it off the black market makes you just theoretically skip the line.
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January 14, 2021, 07:15:10 AM
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I'd say it's making money from vulnerable people but I doubt a lot of them could actually find it.

I'd HOPE it's just sterilised saline water and there's nothing wrong with the vile/syringe if anyone does take it...
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January 14, 2021, 07:24:24 AM
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And also where did the scammers get the vaccines?
These vaccines they sell may be inferior and not edible for the human consumptions seller of that type will not consider what it does to who takes it, for them -fake vaccines sellers- its about making money from the vaccines, really anyone buying the vaccines I don't pity them for the money they lost but what the reaction on their body system after intake of the vaccines would be.

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Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
+ ignorant people
+ people always against government
+ anxious, scared to wait, people
+ company's that need their workers to avoid wait
They are many types and set of people that will purchase such killer vaccines, its madness to buy vaccine on Darkweb.

Most of the people in your list would never use the darknet to search for a vaccine.99% of the people don't know how to use the darkweb and where to find trusted markets there(if there are any trusted markets).
The vaccine are free,but the vast majority of the people will have to wait for months,before the vaccines get delivered to their countries.I think that many third world countries can't even afford to buy large amounts of vaccines.
I guess that those fake darkweb vaccines are being sold by desperate scammers.
There's no guarantee that the buyer will get anything delivered to his front door after payment.
The scammers will get BTC or Monero from the victims and just disappear.99% of the darkweb scams work that way.

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January 14, 2021, 07:41:30 AM
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It's also happening in the Philippines too, and it's a possibility that they've acquired some of them from the dark web that are yet to be authorized and regulated by the Department of Health.

Source 1: https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2021/1/4/Probe-POGO-workers-vaccination.html
Source 2: https://thediplomat.com/2021/01/dutertes-security-detail-received-a-gift-of-unauthorized-chinese-vaccines/
Source 3: https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Duterte-bodyguards-used-COVID-vaccines-smuggled-into-Philippines

I think these people are too impatient because they wanna get their lives back to normal as soon as possible. We understand that, but this pandemic is just temporary and we just have to wait for the authorized vaccines to be approved and distributed to each country.

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January 14, 2021, 07:42:43 AM
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What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry


It's really sad to see people trying to make a scam and a profit out of this corona pandemic. I really hope no one is actually going to buy such a product. We should all know that the distribution of the corona vaccine is done on a national level. The government is buying the vaccine and creating vaccination center for everybody. Elderly people and high risk patience are the first to get the vaccine. And the rest of us just have to wait, no point in wasting money into a scam.
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January 14, 2021, 07:52:47 AM
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Even though these vaccines is free, there's serious effect inside about it but rarely happened [1]. Commonly a vaccine can be categorized as safe after has been test out for some times and it can be took some years or decade. This vaccine is still new and can't be claimed as 100% safe, I wouldn't take a risk until it has been developed well.

I hope no one will buy those vaccine on dark web since it's very dangerous and no one can ensure it's really a vaccine.

[1] https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19-risks-and-side-effects-of-vaccination/a-56136620

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January 14, 2021, 08:09:06 AM
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No surprise in my part especially if you want to be on top of the other people out there, you must do something in order for you to be safe with this virus.

There are some disadvantages with this like you might know if the vaccine will be effective or if it really is a vaccine at first place. More of these will be on the dark web once we distributed all of the vaccines that are being created right now worldwide and if they are effective.

I can still remember our authorities here got vaccinated without anybody knowing it and if they can do it, I'm pretty sure that those people at the top can also do it.

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January 14, 2021, 08:39:25 AM
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I wonder how the seller get the vaccine? Because as far as I know, the government distributed the vaccine, but if that is the case, I only think that some government officials make something wrong and abuse their power by taking the vaccine and selling it on the dark web. The government needs to investigate it to find who is behind them because I think the vaccine should give to the infected people for free.

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January 14, 2021, 08:43:32 AM
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This definitely just a water put into a vaccine bottle to make it look like they were really selling vaccines,
lol . but atleast they excert an effort of doing this and they spend money for the bottles and boxes if they are shipping these fake items .

What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?

there are free samples but there are also being sold . its the same as government giving free medicines and vitamins but they only give limited amounts and after that your going to purchase the other half and you can buy those on the drug stores and pharmacy but vaccine suppliers need to be careful buying in darkmarkets because scams are verry active on those places .
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Last edit: January 14, 2021, 12:06:51 PM by finaleshot2016
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$1,000? Really? I found some reports that vaccines are cheap and the expensive one is Sinovac from China that cost around $15, I don't know if it's accurate. It's worthless to buy a vaccine that is a prevention for the pandemic in a black market, nobody will risk their life just to buy on a random site. The government will now distribute the vaccine soon here in my country, I guess other countries will do the same so there's no sense of buying it at that cost because they're already mass-producing it, it's not rare.

The cheapest one is $5 based on what our local gov. said, it's AstraZeneca is the name, came from oxford.
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What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry
May be they are looking for orders from countries like North Korea and Iran as they might not be getting the vaccines anytime soon and i have no idea about their medical institutions and maybe the scammers are trying to attract them. There are expecting a market and hence they are advertising those hoping there will be a large order, genuinity of the product is a question until someone purchases that and test it with the real product.
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January 14, 2021, 12:56:14 PM
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From my perspective, it will be dangerous if someone will purchase a COVID-19 vaccine on the dark web because they are not sure if it is legitimate or will definitely help them to avoid getting infected. It might be why the virus has mutated and created a new COVID strain because of these fake vaccines everywhere on the dark web.

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January 14, 2021, 01:08:54 PM
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Since the COVID-19 vaccination began, Dakrnet has regularly offered vaccine purchases at different prices.

https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-vaccines-for-sale-dark-web-coronavirus-shot-2020-12

Yesterday's news reports the sale of the vaccine for $1,000 in bitcoins.

https://www.businessinsider.com/vendors-sell-covid-vaccines-for-bitcoin-2021-1?r=US&IR=T

What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry
The vaccines are not given to everyone for free. In Ukraine, for instance, the first vaccines are expected to become available around March or April, and these will be very limited and for people in high risk of dying from COVID only. Moreover, the vaccines won't be free, they will cost about $20 per dose to everyone. And they'll become widely available to the public in more than a year from now. On top of all that, while the most recognized vaccines are Pfizer, Moderna and Astra Zeneca, my country is only hoping to get the latter (the least recognized among these three), but is actually purchasing the Chinese Sinovac which has low effectiveness. Meanwhile, the pandemic is a very serious problem in Ukraine, with literally thousands  (about 2 thousand) being hospitalized with COVID and about 200 dying daily. So yeah, some would totally buy vaccines in the Darknet if those sold there are the top ones.
In fact, there've been allegations of cases of Pfizer vaccines illegally purchased for $2k per dose by Ukrainian MPs already.
All that being said, I would not risk injecting an illegally bought thing into my body because there've already been cases of fake vaccines sold as well. And $1k is really expensive.

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January 14, 2021, 01:50:35 PM
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AFAIK only governments are the only one that can do a transaction with the pharmaceutical companies

The private sector actually could, but they would need the green light from their government. I can't find any examples from the US, but here are some from Asia:

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/government-economy/indonesia-may-allow-private-sector-to-buy-and-distribute-vaccines

https://mb.com.ph/2021/01/04/ayala-corp-procuring-450000-doses-of-astrazeneca-covid-vaccines/

Apart from that, I'm sure some corrupt government officials somewhere are going to try to capitalize on this, so I'm fairly confident that there actually are legitimate sellers on the black market. Good luck finding them though lol.

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Who the hell buy covid vaccine on darkweb, when it is not confirmed that official vaccine gives a 100% cure result and there will be later no consequences. These must be people who sends money unlock 1 billion $ lottery winnings they’ve got in email. Or open any attachments in emails.

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What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry



Some people are really scared of the virus and we can't blame them because it has taken lots of lives already and they see the vaccine as the last resort to survive. However, buying it on the black market is just another disaster. Sometimes being impatient could kill us or could result in regrets in the future. It's better to wait for the vaccine because our governments are doing something already. We'll not only get scammed if we'll buy the vaccine in the black market but it could also put our lives at risk.
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January 14, 2021, 03:17:21 PM
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There's no doubt that the selling of covid vaccines in the darknet is occuring right now because in the dark web or dark net, you can buy anything you want including drugs, illegal guns and etc. Why we are kind of shock here? We already know that in the underground there are such things. The people are buying this vaccines although it is kind of pricey because they want to have it already to avoid sickness and illness brought by the covid virus. It is just a matter of money only, if you don't want to fall in line then buy for a much higher price to skip those lines.



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January 14, 2021, 03:57:54 PM
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Well, I understand if we see people selling vaccines on the dark web, but I wonder why would people buy vaccines there? First, there is no assurance that the vaccine is real, knowing that they are selling it there. It's not being sold individually, let the government acquire vaccines for their people. Second, we are still at the early stage of vaccinating people so there's no need to be impatient. Personally, I don't want to be one of the people who will get early vaccination because I still find it risky. And why does someone need to spend such a huge amount on a vaccine being sold in a not legal place? The price is way too expensive than the actual price of the vaccines available.
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and finally that for a while it can be generalized that vaccines are a lucrative business, where vaccine users find it difficult to distinguish which vaccines are genuine and which vaccines are just replicas for business purposes. Doesn't the rampant illegal sale of vaccines signify leaks for the government due to their ignorance of unregulated actions? even if the scammers are protected by the government, so this is an luxury for the vaccine business.

I prefer to call it the vaccine business. due to the fact that there are always overlapping financial holders investing in them.

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I think that people who can access the dark web are intelligent people who tend to have bad desires. Because on the dark web there are many illegal items that are traded. It is not only vaccines that currently become our basic need, even drugs, weapons, human organs, or human trafficking also occur in it. Whoever sells or buys the vaccine is the one who will do bad things in the future. Vaccines will indeed be given free of charge to the public, but I'm not sure the whole society will get it. Poor countries with densely populated people will find it difficult to buy vaccines and make it free for all of their societies so that the solution is that the government will give vaccines to people who are at very high risk of exposure. There is a gap that occurs if this scenario is executed. People who are not registered with the government's free vaccines are a marketplace for sellers of these vaccines. And this is the worst-case scenario, the vaccine that is sold to the common people comes from the vaccine trade on the dark web.
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Maybe people from the countries where covid cases are constantly rising are purchasing those vaccines due to the loss of their life just for a few hundred dollars. Of course, governments are going to give it for free but for someone who is in need may not be on the priority list of the government so if he got the money then he maybe bought from someone who is saying that they got the effective vaccine.
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It's just so heartbreaking that the vaccine that is supposed to cure and could end this pandemic is just becoming a business and another source of corruption in some countries. Another sad part is rich people who could afford it will be the priority.
Those who buy vaccines from the dark web are those people who want to secure themselves so we can't blame them despite taking the risk because honestly, it's hard to trust the government these days.
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When vaccines can be given or distributed for free, it is unlikely that ordinary people will have the vaccines packaged, making it impossible for ordinary people to stockpile vaccines to sell. With that reason, I just don't want to be suspicious but if the dark web continues to receive vaccines regularly, I think the answer will be predictable. But despite all that, let us be patient because in the end every citizen will definitely be vaccinated, no need to buy because this will be obtained free of charge, right.

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Since the COVID-19 vaccination began, Dakrnet has regularly offered vaccine purchases at different prices.

https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-vaccines-for-sale-dark-web-coronavirus-shot-2020-12

Yesterday's news reports the sale of the vaccine for $1,000 in bitcoins.

https://www.businessinsider.com/vendors-sell-covid-vaccines-for-bitcoin-2021-1?r=US&IR=T

What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry
It is obviously a scam in many levels, to begin with they are selling the vaccines for an incredibly inflated price, I could kind of understand a person paying a premium for the vaccine as he was not on the list to be vaccinated during these early stages but he got the vaccine in the free market from a reputable source, this is possible because there are many countries in which the vaccine will be available for sell in drugstores, however paying such a huge mount of money in the black market where you do not even know what you are receiving or if they have stored the vaccine as instructed so it does not lose effectiveness in the process is a mistake.

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It is obviously a scam in many levels, to begin with they are selling the vaccines for an incredibly inflated price, I could kind of understand a person paying a premium for the vaccine as he was not on the list to be vaccinated during these early stages but he got the vaccine in the free market from a reputable source, this is possible because there are many countries in which the vaccine will be available for sell in drugstores, however paying such a huge mount of money in the black market where you do not even know what you are receiving or if they have stored the vaccine as instructed so it does not lose effectiveness in the process is a mistake.
Not only a mistake but simply a suicide on entrusting up your life into something which is unknown or not being registered yet to be legit.Dealing with things in dark web is
already implies as shady as hell.

What the heck on having that price of 1k usd? you dont even sure if those do came from legit sources and cant just believe that there are still people who do buy
out of these vaccines. Are they out of their minds?

If sales do still continue which means theres a demand. Desperation do really end up on these foolish actions.

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Not only a mistake but simply a suicide on entrusting up your life into something which is unknown or not being registered yet to be legit.Dealing with things in dark web is
already implies as shady as hell.

What the heck on having that price of 1k usd? you dont even sure if those do came from legit sources and cant just believe that there are still people who do buy
out of these vaccines. Are they out of their minds?

If sales do still continue which means theres a demand. Desperation do really end up on these foolish actions.

Well.. there is no doubt that purchasing medications from the dark web is risky as hell. But a lot of people use dark web platforms to source various expensive medications at cheaper rates. Check this:

https://www.vocativ.com/culture/health-culture/drugs-online/index.html

But then, purchasing vaccines, which require deep-freezing from the dark market involves more than the usual amount of risk. In most cases, the vendor is either going to vanish with your money, or he will send you a placebo.

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In no way I would buy vaccine on those kind of markets because illegally distributed means it is either fake or not effective and life risky. Even on the official release of vaccine the potency were not of 100% and some vaccine were barely at 50% potency which made several people hesitate if they want to be injected by it including me.



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Well.. there is no doubt that purchasing medications from the dark web is risky as hell. But a lot of people use dark web platforms to source various expensive medications at cheaper rates. Check this:

https://www.vocativ.com/culture/health-culture/drugs-online/index.html


But the risky is not only your money but also our health because we do not know if this is the real vaccines or fake. This time we need more safety even our health , we know that dark web is like a hell so why we need to risk ourself with this. Be careful this time.




But then, purchasing vaccines, which require deep-freezing from the dark market involves more than the usual amount of risk. In most cases, the vendor is either going to vanish with your money, or he will send you a placebo.

True , thats why we dont need to use that for purchasing vaccines. Many of the vendors inside the dark web is not true and the they reason is to get us our money. This time we need to think more than twice.

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What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?

there are free samples but there are also being sold . its the same as government giving free medicines and vitamins but they only give limited amounts and after that your going to purchase the other half and you can buy those on the drug stores and pharmacy but vaccine suppliers need to be careful buying in darkmarkets because scams are verry active on those places .
I think depending on your nation, it is free for everyone but it takes time. So let's say you got a nation with 100 million, and there is a need for 200 million vaccines (2 dosage for each person), even if the nation has 200 million vaccines all ready, getting that vaccine will take some time, first people who work in hospitals will get it, then people who are old will get it, then people who work will get it, then people who are government workers will get it, etc etc there is a line, and if you are 30 year old private business owner for example, yours could be as far as 8 to 12 months away even though it is free.

This is why some people buy these, and get it done themselves, just so they could be ready right now instead of a year from now to go out there without fear. A very very big mistake but at the end we are talking about fear of losing your life, so I kind of understand their logic.
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But the risky is not only your money but also our health because we do not know if this is the real vaccines or fake. This time we need more safety even our health , we know that dark web is like a hell so why we need to risk ourself with this. Be careful this time.

I have read about people purchasing cancer medications from dark market websites, as they can't afford to purchase them from normal shops. These medications are in most cases real and effective, mostly manufactured in countries such as Bangladesh and India. In the US/EU, these drugs are overpriced by a factor of 10x or 20x, due to reasons well known to everyone. In most cases, the users don't have a choice.
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Who the hell buy covid vaccine on darkweb, when it is not confirmed that official vaccine gives a 100% cure result and there will be later no consequences. These must be people who sends money unlock 1 billion $ lottery winnings they’ve got in email. Or open any attachments in emails.
There are real vaccine smugglers in the darknet, you just need to be good at finding a legitimate one. Those gullible persons are the same ones that buy those vaccines from the darknet. To be fair, I have to give props to this scammers because their business is booming because of this idiot people trying to get ahead of the others in an illegal way, I do not mind that this people get scammed because both the seller and the buyer in this case is a scum of society.

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Isn't the vaccine starts to roll out already? in most part of the world more specifically those countries that invented the vaccine, this vaccine from darknet thing just will be gone very soon since the vaccine itself is affordable and I've read some of the company that provides vaccine giving it out for free. Whoever bought vaccine from darkweb whilst living in developed country and impatience enough to not wait few days should get their brain checked for real.

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January 15, 2021, 11:32:57 AM
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Isn't the vaccine starts to roll out already? in most part of the world more specifically those countries that invented the vaccine, this vaccine from darknet thing just will be gone very soon since the vaccine itself is affordable and I've read some of the company that provides vaccine giving it out for free. Whoever bought vaccine from darkweb whilst living in developed country and impatience enough to not wait few days should get their brain checked for real.

Most of the countries have started the vaccination drive, and already more than 35 million shots have been administered. Within the United States, a total of 11.9 million people have received their first dosage of the vaccine. You can get the details on a country-to-country basis here:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

But if you consider the number of people who have been vaccinated, to the total population of the world (7.6 billion), you can see that it is very minuscule. At this pace, even by the end of this year only a small fraction of the global population will be vaccinated. And that is the reason why some people are getting impatient now.
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Why would people buy vaccine in the dark web? Are they crazy to take the risk upon buying those unprescribe meds? The vaccine has been distributed already si it's best to wait for the government to properly distribute to its own constituents and this is more safer than those unknown meds there.

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January 15, 2021, 12:26:56 PM
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In no way I would buy vaccine on those kind of markets because illegally distributed means it is either fake or not effective and life risky. Even on the official release of vaccine the potency were not of 100% and some vaccine were barely at 50% potency which made several people hesitate if they want to be injected by it including me.
What is quite confusing is, there are still people who buy the vaccine. I don't know whether they don't trust their local government regulating vaccinations, or they (sellers of the dark web) are smart enough to make a narrative, so that someone will buy the vaccine anyway, even though I'm sure there's no 100% chance of the vaccine can verify the origin
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why people really ready to buy some shady vaccine on darknet? It offically shady and you will never know that will be in the darknet vaccine
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People looking to purchase for vaccines in the darkweb are crazy. They are buying a cure, they are putting their life in danger or possibly instant death if they take these unregulated stuffs. Personally I’m not in hurry to get those stuffs because as of now I’m still very hesitant to take those even if it will be given free to every citizen of the country, rather I’m willing to wait for months or a year to observe feedbacks from those people who took a shot.
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Wow, seriously wow... how insane someone needs to be to buy a vaccine on darknet Cheesy

I saw some people commented that only stupid people would buy vaccine on darknet, and someone replied that stupid people don't know how to access darknet (which I agree with). According to market laws when there's a demand, there's gotta be supply. So if "smart people" (who know how to access darknet) really wanted to buy vaccine online, well, there are scammers who are willing to sell it to them.

However, I would also assume that some people might have preference and bias towards specific vaccine developer vs. others. For example, it's known that Russian vaccine has not passed all the necessary tests and was rolled out too quick, American vaccine is not that efficient actually, while Chinese vaccine has over 70 side-effects. Some of it might be black PR, some of it might be true, but some people might be wanting to get a vaccine developed by X, instead of the one offered by local government, therefore they could be searching for alternatives I assume.

For those of you who is interested, here's a pretty good list of all available vaccines and the ones still in clinical trials: https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2020/3/covid-19-vaccine-tracker

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January 15, 2021, 05:32:47 PM
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Why people are falling for such scams while the governments of different countries are into development of the vaccine and has started to use on citizens. Every stage of development happened in a transparent manner, and some vaccines didn't fulfill the requirements whereas the rest have reached the market. Almost every government prioritise the frontline workers during covid-19 and further to the rest of the people. If people can't have patience for a short time period, then let them be a prey for the scammers.
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How are they able to guarantee their buyers that the vaccines are real?

You just have to trust if you indeed need to be safe. In Europe and middle east I think the vaccines are already distributed and Sinovac is the cheapest by far. I wouldnt mind buying but I can go out and work without vaccine, there isnt the urgency to take one.

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Since the COVID-19 vaccination began, Dakrnet has regularly offered vaccine purchases at different prices.

https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-vaccines-for-sale-dark-web-coronavirus-shot-2020-12

Yesterday's news reports the sale of the vaccine for $1,000 in bitcoins.

https://www.businessinsider.com/vendors-sell-covid-vaccines-for-bitcoin-2021-1?r=US&IR=T

What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry

If you've bought your "vaccine" from the dark web, you deserve whatever nonsense they put in the vial and you are about to inject into your body. I can't even imagine the type of person who is capable enough to navigate the dark web, but not smart enough to critically think that what they're buying is legitimate, but apparently those people do exist!

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Some people are pretty desperate, and would go through ‘shortcuts’ in order to get their hands on something that isn’t officially available until X amount time has passed. The million dollar question here is: if those vaccines are indeed the true concoctions, who the hell is releasing them in the public? I know that most production facilities for the approved vaccines are already functional, but their orders are already booked even before they are created. This should be investigated if there’s a sliver of truth on the dark web ads IMO because those vaccines may harm people if improperly administered.

This just further proves that some people are really over-the-top opportunists and overly-greedy, making money of the public’s necessity.

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January 15, 2021, 09:26:56 PM
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Some people are pretty desperate, and would go through ‘shortcuts’ in order to get their hands on something that isn’t officially available until X amount time has passed. The million dollar question here is: if those vaccines are indeed the true concoctions, who the hell is releasing them in the public? I know that most production facilities for the approved vaccines are already functional, but their orders are already booked even before they are created. This should be investigated if there’s a sliver of truth on the dark web ads IMO because those vaccines may harm people if improperly administered.

This just further proves that some people are really over-the-top opportunists and overly-greedy, making money of the public’s necessity.
Desperation for them to get healed is one of the reason on why there are really people who do really end up on buying despite the fact that you dont even know on where these vaccine originated or do came from.

Sale would continue as long there would be a demand of this vaccines.It would completely stop when someone doesnt buy these vaccines but hey people do end up on this decisions
when they are trying out something that might work specially covid vaccines which is highly demanded.

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What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry

It could be that these scammers are selling this vaccines to fellow scammers in bulk orders or whole sale to later on distribute in the public. Perfect example is when a local government unit is looking to buy cheap vaccines to save themselves a huge budget cut.
Nevertheless, the government is giving these vaccines for free (at least here in my country), so to make things short, any government is susceptible to buy these fake products.
This will then confuse the people about the concern of the vaccines' side effects.

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Some people are pretty desperate, and would go through ‘shortcuts’ in order to get their hands on something that isn’t officially available until X amount time has passed. The million dollar question here is: if those vaccines are indeed the true concoctions, who the hell is releasing them in the public? I know that most production facilities for the approved vaccines are already functional, but their orders are already booked even before they are created. This should be investigated if there’s a sliver of truth on the dark web ads IMO because those vaccines may harm people if improperly administered.

This just further proves that some people are really over-the-top opportunists and overly-greedy, making money of the public’s necessity.
They are not thinking about the safety of what they are doing, I can say that those people tend to scam other people, they might buy a lot of supplies of vaccines underground and they will sell them at a higher price. We are not sure if those vaccines are really effective, as of now, we should be careful taking vaccines, there are people who will take advantage of the situation and take the opportunity to scam other people. I recommend that you should wait for your own government of the LGU to decide what vaccine you should use.
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Some people are pretty desperate, and would go through ‘shortcuts’ in order to get their hands on something that isn’t officially available until X amount time has passed. The million dollar question here is: if those vaccines are indeed the true concoctions, who the hell is releasing them in the public? I know that most production facilities for the approved vaccines are already functional, but their orders are already booked even before they are created. This should be investigated if there’s a sliver of truth on the dark web ads IMO because those vaccines may harm people if improperly administered.
This just further proves that some people are really over-the-top opportunists and overly-greedy, making money of the public’s necessity.
They are not thinking about the safety of what they are doing, I can say that those people tend to scam other people, they might buy a lot of supplies of vaccines underground and they will sell them at a higher price. We are not sure if those vaccines are really effective, as of now, we should be careful taking vaccines, there are people who will take advantage of the situation and take the opportunity to scam other people. I recommend that you should wait for your own government of the LGU to decide what vaccine you should use.
Amateur performance is a dangerous thing in such matters. No matter how skeptical we are about the actions of our own states in the field of health, but vaccination is a very specific and important thing, so that people trust the dark market with such issues, because the price of such actions can be undermined health or even death. Sometimes there are scandals about the storage and transportation of the vaccine through official channels, and in dark web that you will not be able to guarantee it.
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If you've bought your "vaccine" from the dark web, you deserve whatever nonsense they put in the vial and you are about to inject into your body. I can't even imagine the type of person who is capable enough to navigate the dark web, but not smart enough to critically think that what they're buying is legitimate, but apparently those people do exist!

A lot of people already get their medications from the dark web. Even chemotherapy medications (which are very difficult to administer safely) are purchased from the dark web as they cost only a fraction of the market rates. Rather than treating the syndrome, we should be treating the disease. We should look in to the reason why some people are purchasing the medicines from dark web.

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Wherever they got it, crap I won't even purchase it. I'd rather keep myself healthy when I begin having the symptoms of it.
Best to just wait for your government to acquire it.
If they sell it or not, it doesn't matter. As long as it is the legitimate one that your body will intake.
You don't want to be putting anything in your body now especially from the unregistered companies.
It could be a waste of money or worse, it will infect you with a new kind of sickness.
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Purchasing drugs in the dark web is common. But purchasing a vaccine is a different story. It's literally someone's life on the line here. And I think even if it's a patronizer of the black market, I think he'd think twice about buying one. Well, not unless he's sure that it's totally trusted and will definitely save his life from this virus. But whatever the case is, I wouldn't buy one in that place. Even if it means saving money or skipping the waiting line.

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Vaccine is part of the remedy. It isn't assured that you won't get attacked by covid-19 anymore. There are several cases on whom the vaccination is done. Even after that people are getting it covid-19 again. Whatever the vaccine is into usage, we ourselves must concentrate on developing the immunity of our body. People who are spending on darkweb can get some immune rich food and keep their health good.

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Since the COVID-19 vaccination began, Dakrnet has regularly offered vaccine purchases at different prices.

https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-vaccines-for-sale-dark-web-coronavirus-shot-2020-12

Yesterday's news reports the sale of the vaccine for $1,000 in bitcoins.

https://www.businessinsider.com/vendors-sell-covid-vaccines-for-bitcoin-2021-1?r=US&IR=T

What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry

But are those free vaccines that we are going to receive from the Government that mostly has been purchased to China is proven really effective? I guess not. If I'm going to choose, I'd rather buy one from the darkweb, however, it is very risky for my identity as well as I might get arrested for doing so. In short, our choices is either accept the vaccine on the Government and secretly don't use it too soon (if it will given to us individually) or directly accept it since they are going to be injected to us by medical personnels and pray that it will work just fine.

Imagine staying at home for a year already and you died because of the free vaccine, that's so tragic.
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Since the COVID-19 vaccination began, Dakrnet has regularly offered vaccine purchases at different prices.

https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-vaccines-for-sale-dark-web-coronavirus-shot-2020-12

Yesterday's news reports the sale of the vaccine for $1,000 in bitcoins.

https://www.businessinsider.com/vendors-sell-covid-vaccines-for-bitcoin-2021-1?r=US&IR=T

What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry

But are those free vaccines that we are going to receive from the Government that mostly has been purchased to China is proven really effective? I guess not. If I'm going to choose, I'd rather buy one from the darkweb, however, it is very risky for my identity as well as I might get arrested for doing so. In short, our choices is either accept the vaccine on the Government and secretly don't use it too soon (if it will given to us individually) or directly accept it since they are going to be injected to us by medical personnels and pray that it will work just fine.

Imagine staying at home for a year already and you died because of the free vaccine, that's so tragic.

The vaccine came from china has been used by many countries and the efficacy of it has been approved by FDA so it means its effective. Look at china now they are getting back on their feet where social gatherings are slowly getting getting back again. And besides if you choose to get the Vaccine made by USA or Russia for sure it will take us long time to wait since the demand is so high that's why its so lucky for all of us to have the Chinese made vaccine since they are truly available and ready to distribute.

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Isn't the vaccine starts to roll out already? in most part of the world more specifically those countries that invented the vaccine, this vaccine from darknet thing just will be gone very soon since the vaccine itself is affordable and I've read some of the company that provides vaccine giving it out for free. Whoever bought vaccine from darkweb whilst living in developed country and impatience enough to not wait few days should get their brain checked for real.
Unfortunately it is not something you can get very quickly, it is taking some time and rolling out process is a long one, so people do still buy it. Obviously it is probably a 6 months to 1 year business model for these scammers, at the end of the day people will not be capable of selling it since almost everyone will have a chance to take it by that time, but as of right now, you can't just go to any hospital and say you want to get it made, which is why I think it is quite obvious why it is being sold.

I do not think it would be wise to buy it off darknet, doesn't matter if it is legit the real vaccine or even maybe a fake one, but whatever it is, wait for your turn to come in the real deal and that way you could probably handle it a lot better. There is really nothing wrong with waiting a bit more and getting it made by a professional in a hospital.

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How many people have contracted covid- 19?  Compared to a small portion of vaccines licensed safely and sold in other countries, Moderna and Pfizer certainly aren't enough for the world.  I think, before other more efficient and more advanced vaccines were produced.  There will certainly be plenty of opportunities for them to make us more painful.  The world is in chaos!
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300284.msg56040312#msg56040312

This is the earlier thread about it and I think people are still not learning from these mistakes. They are endangering their lives and they never know the sources of these vaccines. They are dealing with the dark web, how are they not thinking about themselves? That they are more in danger if they bought into these sources? I know that the vaccine is limited but this is just stupid.

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January 16, 2021, 04:00:19 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300284.msg56040312#msg56040312

This is the earlier thread about it and I think people are still not learning from these mistakes. They are endangering their lives and they never know the sources of these vaccines. They are dealing with the dark web, how are they not thinking about themselves? That they are more in danger if they bought into these sources? I know that the vaccine is limited but this is just stupid.
It just shows that those people who bought vaccines from the dark web is in desperate choice or they were just stupid believing a vaccine that hasn't been released from the public without knowing who made it and what are the substance can be found on that vaccine. Those scammers are probably laughing while they sold those vaccines that who knows what magic they put on that and they were still making money. I hope the authority could trace those people who sells it and stop them or they might endangering more lives in the future.

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If you've bought your "vaccine" from the dark web, you deserve whatever nonsense they put in the vial and you are about to inject into your body. I can't even imagine the type of person who is capable enough to navigate the dark web, but not smart enough to critically think that what they're buying is legitimate, but apparently those people do exist!

A lot of people already get their medications from the dark web. Even chemotherapy medications (which are very difficult to administer safely) are purchased from the dark web as they cost only a fraction of the market rates. Rather than treating the syndrome, we should be treating the disease. We should look in to the reason why some people are purchasing the medicines from dark web.

And why do you suppose that is? Because it sounds to me that thieves are stealing medicines then to sell them on the dark web (however prevalent of an occurrence that may be), thereby driving up the cost for people who operate legally in the system (i.e., the rest of us).

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I just think that if there is a selling of covid 19 vaccines on the dark web it means there is an accomplice who makes the vaccine or it is a fake vaccine. Also buying a covid vaccine in a dark web is scary because you didn't know if that vaccine is legit or not and also don't know the side effect of it in your body and health.
It is obviously a fake vaccine, you know how scammers always see opportunity even in this trying times. Those who will buy those dark web vaccines are either scammers too or if not they are probably the biggest idiot that I have ever known. Patience will reward the people and those who don't will get their money swiped under their noses. Remember that any transactions on the Internet be it Dark Web or Surface Web is either a scam or not, treat it with caution.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300284.msg56040312#msg56040312

This is the earlier thread about it and I think people are still not learning from these mistakes. They are endangering their lives and they never know the sources of these vaccines. They are dealing with the dark web, how are they not thinking about themselves? That they are more in danger if they bought into these sources? I know that the vaccine is limited but this is just stupid.
It just shows that those people who bought vaccines from the dark web is in desperate choice or they were just stupid believing a vaccine that hasn't been released from the public without knowing who made it and what are the substance can be found on that vaccine. Those scammers are probably laughing while they sold those vaccines that who knows what magic they put on that and they were still making money. I hope the authority could trace those people who sells it and stop them or they might endangering more lives in the future.

Its so stupid act to them by buying the what so called vaccine on un trustable platform and darkweb has shady reputation in terms of illegal transactions that's why its not ideal thing to look for vaccine there. Maybe they should wait for the government release since its for free and more safer since they follow the protocol also follow the proper dosage as per suggestion by the experts.

Dark web is so deep and they will get a hard time to locate  those illegal selling of vaccine on the there

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300284.msg56040312#msg56040312

This is the earlier thread about it and I think people are still not learning from these mistakes. They are endangering their lives and they never know the sources of these vaccines. They are dealing with the dark web, how are they not thinking about themselves? That they are more in danger if they bought into these sources? I know that the vaccine is limited but this is just stupid.
It just shows that those people who bought vaccines from the dark web is in desperate choice or they were just stupid believing a vaccine that hasn't been released from the public without knowing who made it and what are the substance can be found on that vaccine. Those scammers are probably laughing while they sold those vaccines that who knows what magic they put on that and they were still making money. I hope the authority could trace those people who sells it and stop them or they might endangering more lives in the future.

I also hope that those people having these thoughts of buying a vaccine on the dark web just stop thinking they will be well after using it. It is the dark web! The fact that there is no legitimate source there, means that these kind of things would not make you well. I don't even think that those people selling it meant well.

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January 17, 2021, 04:01:43 PM
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I do not think it is really needed to buy covid vaccine from a stranger whom you can not trace. You do not know what has in that bottle. If they scam then you can get water or maybe drinks. But if he send another dangerous medicine what can harm you or your family just think the situation what you have to face. And also we should not buy any covid vaccine from anyone who says that this medicine 100% work or blah blah type shit things. Remember without government authorization or without government announcement we should not use or inject any type of medicine it could be harmful. I hope you guys understand what i want to tell you.
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The vaccine came from china has been used by many countries and the efficacy of it has been approved by FDA so it means its effective. Look at china now they are getting back on their feet where social gatherings are slowly getting getting back again. And besides if you choose to get the Vaccine made by USA or Russia for sure it will take us long time to wait since the demand is so high that's why its so lucky for all of us to have the Chinese made vaccine since they are truly available and ready to distribute.
Chinese vaccination is not good at all, it has around 50% to 60% efficiency to keep you defended against the virus, and unless everyone gets it we are not going to have the regular life back, it would take a lot and China will be getting super wealthy from the virus they helped create, which sucks big time because they should be paying it, not getting rich from it, how nobody sees that is mind blowing.

In any case getting 50-60% efficiency from a vaccination is still better than being 0% ready for it, there is no logic, so it would be still smart to take the vaccination but there are other vaccinations that should be given to the whole world with 90%+ rate and that is the one we should hope to get, china of course with their disgusting working conditions made all these vaccinations in tens of millions of units and sold it very quickly while other places are making sure each vaccination proper, but I will wait for the other ones.

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Chinese vaccination is not good at all, it has around 50% to 60% efficiency to keep you defended against the virus, and unless everyone gets it we are not going to have the regular life back, it would take a lot and China will be getting super wealthy from the virus they helped create, which sucks big time because they should be paying it, not getting rich from it, how nobody sees that is mind blowing.

In any case getting 50-60% efficiency from a vaccination is still better than being 0% ready for it, there is no logic, so it would be still smart to take the vaccination but there are other vaccinations that should be given to the whole world with 90%+ rate and that is the one we should hope to get, china of course with their disgusting working conditions made all these vaccinations in tens of millions of units and sold it very quickly while other places are making sure each vaccination proper, but I will wait for the other ones.

The big question is whether the vaccine is having 50% efficiency as being claimed or not. Statistics can be tweaked, to favor a certain finding. For example, take the case of the Oxford/Astra Zeneca vaccine. Normal trials were showing an efficiency of 62%. But they selected a small subset and then claimed that the vaccine is 91% effective. I suspect the same might have been the case with the Sinopharm vaccine. That said, the other vaccine from China (Sinovac Biotech) is reported to have an efficiency of 78%.

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Vaccine that will be given free of charge from the government itself, of course, have been clinically tested and have valid data. Many people refuse for various reasons, if someone buys vaccines from the black market I am sure that person is mentally disturbed.
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January 18, 2021, 07:18:54 AM
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Its so stupid act to them by buying the what so called vaccine on un trustable platform and darkweb has shady reputation in terms of illegal transactions that's why its not ideal thing to look for vaccine there. Maybe they should wait for the government release since its for free and more safer since they follow the protocol also follow the proper dosage as per suggestion by the experts.

Dark web is so deep and they will get a hard time to locate  those illegal selling of vaccine on the there
Exactly, I can't imagine someone buying from those people in the dark web risking their lives and safety from those people. Dark web is known for illegal activities and I don't think someone who manage to get in and purchase some products doesn't know what kind of people they were dealing with. Especially the vaccine itself which is unknown to us, I wonder if authorities manage to buy one and examine what substances inside of the vaccine.
Too careless in this matter, even I know that I haven't found a bracelet website that markets vaccines to date. However, when vaccines arrive in their own country, there will be a tight guard from the government because this is a risk of life if something happens then who who is wrong?
There is no need to buy from the black market, we will definitely register and get a vaccine if the efficiency is right the government also does it only for the people, so if there is an action like this it is like a fool who doesn't know anything.

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January 18, 2021, 08:48:52 PM
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We all do know that vaccines have already been started to get distributed into different countries starting off this year 2021 according to the allocation and negotiations that have been done through pharmaceutical companies and the government of different countries to start the massive vaccination of the different vaccines with different percentage of effectivity based on clinical trials. The vaccines to be distributed is still limited and seems to prioritize certain groups of individuals that roughly needed the vaccine. Maybe out of desperation and need of the vaccine some people are finding alternative ways out of the blue seeking for vaccines in dark or black market which is an unreliable platform for me because first that is illegal and who on earth will buy vaccine and trust that it is a legit one. Sincerely I do not know who will get to buy into those sites risking their money and life as well to have vaccine which is not sure to be legitimate.

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January 19, 2021, 07:12:56 AM
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What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry

So let's not denied the fact that there will be politics in this vaccine distribution meaning some country might be left out or not given enough supply. For countries that get less that means some citizens won't be given the privilege of getting vaccinated and assuming there is to be another outbreaks then you'll see thousand flooding to any available market to get their hands on the vaccines and obviously they'll be bought at outrageous prices.

Asking where the scammers get the vaccine is like asking where they get all the deadly weapons they sell on the dark web, obviously there's a sponsor and don't be surprised it might even be the government themselves or trusted officers. In less developed countries, there's every possibility the vaccine won't be shared to the masses instead they will get sold to the highest bidden on the dark web. We don't have a say here, infact many don't believe there's anything called Covid19 and won't even willing take a vaccine they don't believe the disease is real.

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January 19, 2021, 08:01:30 AM
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What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry

So let's not denied the fact that there will be politics in this vaccine distribution meaning some country might be left out or not given enough supply. For countries that get less that means some citizens won't be given the privilege of getting vaccinated and assuming there is to be another outbreaks then you'll see thousand flooding to any available market to get their hands on the vaccines and obviously they'll be bought at outrageous prices.

Asking where the scammers get the vaccine is like asking where they get all the deadly weapons they sell on the dark web, obviously there's a sponsor and don't be surprised it might even be the government themselves or trusted officers. In less developed countries, there's every possibility the vaccine won't be shared to the masses instead they will get sold to the highest bidden on the dark web. We don't have a say here, infact many don't believe there's anything called Covid19 and won't even willing take a vaccine they don't believe the disease is real.

Behind all that there must be insiders who provide a way for scamers to sell vaccines illegally on the black market. This cannot be denied because they will cut rations for society for various reasons then it happens and they do this as an indecent act.
I am only worried when there are residents who need them and they don't have more money to buy because there are games from the government, so this is what makes them worse in their structure. It is clear now that they will carry out various economic sectors at their own discretion. the government is free after being distributed into the required pay.

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January 19, 2021, 08:17:42 AM
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Chinese vaccination is not good at all, it has around 50% to 60% efficiency to keep you defended against the virus, and unless everyone gets it we are not going to have the regular life back, it would take a lot and China will be getting super wealthy from the virus they helped create, which sucks big time because they should be paying it, not getting rich from it, how nobody sees that is mind blowing.

In any case getting 50-60% efficiency from a vaccination is still better than being 0% ready for it, there is no logic, so it would be still smart to take the vaccination but there are other vaccinations that should be given to the whole world with 90%+ rate and that is the one we should hope to get, china of course with their disgusting working conditions made all these vaccinations in tens of millions of units and sold it very quickly while other places are making sure each vaccination proper, but I will wait for the other ones.

The big question is whether the vaccine is having 50% efficiency as being claimed or not. Statistics can be tweaked, to favor a certain finding. For example, take the case of the Oxford/Astra Zeneca vaccine. Normal trials were showing an efficiency of 62%. But they selected a small subset and then claimed that the vaccine is 91% effective. I suspect the same might have been the case with the Sinopharm vaccine. That said, the other vaccine from China (Sinovac Biotech) is reported to have an efficiency of 78%.
It is only a matter of time, do not worry. World-wide human experimentation is ongoing and in a few years we will know how things will unfold.
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I have no idea how you can trust these scammers. It seems to me that buying the COVID-19 vaccine through the black market is crazy. It is a pity for such people, they most likely simply lost their money by buying some incomprehensible substance passed off as a medicine.

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It is obviously a scam in many levels, to begin with they are selling the vaccines for an incredibly inflated price, I could kind of understand a person paying a premium for the vaccine as he was not on the list to be vaccinated during these early stages but he got the vaccine in the free market from a reputable source, this is possible because there are many countries in which the vaccine will be available for sell in drugstores, however paying such a huge mount of money in the black market where you do not even know what you are receiving or if they have stored the vaccine as instructed so it does not lose effectiveness in the process is a mistake.
Not only a mistake but simply a suicide on entrusting up your life into something which is unknown or not being registered yet to be legit.Dealing with things in dark web is
already implies as shady as hell.

What the heck on having that price of 1k usd? you dont even sure if those do came from legit sources and cant just believe that there are still people who do buy
out of these vaccines. Are they out of their minds?

If sales do still continue which means theres a demand. Desperation do really end up on these foolish actions.
And unfortunately we are going to keep seeing cases like this, for example in my country like I suppose is happening in most countries the vaccine right now is being applied mostly to those that need the vaccine the most, elderly people and the healthcare professionals that are exposed to the virus the most and yet we are seeing a lot of cases of politicians moving their influences and getting the vaccine for them and their families which is a complete disgrace.

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January 19, 2021, 06:59:25 PM
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What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
What scammers expect is of course a profit, nothing else.  Of course, drug counterfeiters will buy this vaccine, and things related to counterfeit drugs have been happening for a long time..

Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry
Referring to what has often happened is the crime of evil health workers, in my city, health workers are often caught.  maybe later some bad health workers buy the vaccine and then exchange it for expensive vaccines because currently, the price of vaccines from each pharmaceutical company is different..

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Referring to what has often happened is the crime of evil health workers, in my city, health workers are often caught.  maybe later some bad health workers buy the vaccine and then exchange it for expensive vaccines because currently, the price of vaccines from each pharmaceutical company is different..

I don't know whether this story is believable. The distribution of the vaccine is carefully controlled by the governments and every single vial is audited and accounted for. There may be a few corrupt healthcare workers in the system. But then stealing the vaccines would take active collusion from everyone involved, from the high ranking officials to the health care worker who is injecting the medication.

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Referring to what has often happened is the crime of evil health workers, in my city, health workers are often caught.  maybe later some bad health workers buy the vaccine and then exchange it for expensive vaccines because currently, the price of vaccines from each pharmaceutical company is different..

I don't know whether this story is believable. The distribution of the vaccine is carefully controlled by the governments and every single vial is audited and accounted for. There may be a few corrupt healthcare workers in the system. But then stealing the vaccines would take active collusion from everyone involved, from the high ranking officials to the health care worker who is injecting the medication.
I believe it would be very stupid for both buyer and seller to do a vaccine trade via the dark web. First of all, these items require some special and efficient logistics and, secondly, what would be the guarantee of safety about the item. For an average of $300 per dose, it would be crazy to make such a trade considering health authorities will give it for free.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/vendors-sell-covid-vaccines-for-bitcoin-2021-1?r=US&IR=T
What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry
I believe these dishonest earners will not stop selling vaccines on the black market for a price that is sufficient to create a hanging.
Even worse things like fake vaccine production are in trend of suspicion.

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You know, scammers really like newly innovation things approved by the government, its very clear to the  blind and audible to the deaf that corona virus vaccine is free across the countries, so scammers are creating means to fraud some people by giving them wrong information about sells of corona virus vaccine so that they will be able to sell their fake drugs or vaccine in the name of world health organization ( WHO) approval, which is absolutely wrong, how can it be possible to purchase vaccine with one thousand dollars ($1000) what of bitcoin while government is handling the issues of corona virus everywhere.

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Referring to what has often happened is the crime of evil health workers, in my city, health workers are often caught.  maybe later some bad health workers buy the vaccine and then exchange it for expensive vaccines because currently, the price of vaccines from each pharmaceutical company is different..

I don't know whether this story is believable. The distribution of the vaccine is carefully controlled by the governments and every single vial is audited and accounted for. There may be a few corrupt healthcare workers in the system. But then stealing the vaccines would take active collusion from everyone involved, from the high ranking officials to the health care worker who is injecting the medication.
I believe it would be very stupid for both buyer and seller to do a vaccine trade via the dark web. First of all, these items require some special and efficient logistics and, secondly, what would be the guarantee of safety about the item. For an average of $300 per dose, it would be crazy to make such a trade considering health authorities will give it for free.
Yah, probably those who're selling vaccines on the dark web are just scammers because they knew from the start that it'll be given free to the people because the government bought it for cheap.

It doesn't guarantee you that it's legit and it will give you safety, it may cause harm to your health and die.

Why would you buy a vaccine that isn't verified by a medical doctor, it's very scary.
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You know, scammers really like newly innovation things approved by the government, its very clear to the  blind and audible to the deaf that corona virus vaccine is free across the countries, so scammers are creating means to fraud some people by giving them wrong information about sells of corona virus vaccine so that they will be able to sell their fake drugs or vaccine in the name of world health organization ( WHO) approval, which is absolutely wrong, how can it be possible to purchase vaccine with one thousand dollars ($1000) what of bitcoin while government is handling the issues of corona virus everywhere.
Scammers are just taking advantage of people, at least where I live and I suppose that in many other countries as well the vaccine is going to be up for purchase, so if you are not going to be in one of the groups that is going to be vaccinated first you will have the option to buy it, but right now that is nothing but a dream as there is simply not enough supply of the vaccine, so scammers are making use of these facts and they are trying to make it seem as if they have access to the vaccine and sell it on the black market for such an outrageous price.

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Scammers are just taking advantage of people, at least where I live and I suppose that in many other countries as well the vaccine is going to be up for purchase, so if you are not going to be in one of the groups that is going to be vaccinated first you will have the option to buy it, but right now that is nothing but a dream as there is simply not enough supply of the vaccine, so scammers are making use of these facts and they are trying to make it seem as if they have access to the vaccine and sell it on the black market for such an outrageous price.
In some countries, vaccine tourism has already begun to flourish, when wealthy citizens travel to one arab country to relax and get vaccinated in combination with rest outside of all queues. Scammers play on such strings of the soul of certain people who do not want to wait for their turn in the case of mass vaccination, want to use a vaccine that is not available in the country of residence or just save money.
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You know, scammers really like newly innovation things approved by the government, its very clear to the  blind and audible to the deaf that corona virus vaccine is free across the countries, so scammers are creating means to fraud some people by giving them wrong information about sells of corona virus vaccine so that they will be able to sell their fake drugs or vaccine in the name of world health organization ( WHO) approval, which is absolutely wrong, how can it be possible to purchase vaccine with one thousand dollars ($1000) what of bitcoin while government is handling the issues of corona virus everywhere.

Yeah, that is just right but the worst thing here is that people are still buying those fake vaccines even though they already know that purchasing vaccines on the dark web is so risky. I know that people are desperate but are they really that desperate to buy vaccines through the dark web and not  in the actual hospitals or medical institutions?

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I do think that private sectors would definitely give a look at this for a bulk purchase of vaccines, though it's definitely fishy and I don't think any individual would actually buy these in the dark web since governments are ready to provide every citizen either a free vaccine or for a price, and because of this, scammers have a very low chance of scamming anyone, good luck to them.
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Probably those people in the tech industry and are anxious to have the vaccine as early as possible. If it's free then there is a possibility that it will somehow run supplies. Some people will probably wait for a lot longer than others.

But 1000usd for a vaccine is too much. I had news that 1 Moderna vaccine sells at 75usd only.
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Probably those people in the tech industry and are anxious to have the vaccine as early as possible. If it's free then there is a possibility that it will somehow run supplies. Some people will probably wait for a lot longer than others.

But 1000usd for a vaccine is too much. I had news that 1 Moderna vaccine sells at 75usd only.

$75 is the price for which Moderna sells the vaccine to the governments around the world. That doesn't mean that it will be available privately for that much. As far as I know, none of the markets have been made available for private purchase. If that was the case, then we don't be reading about these ridiculous stories and people won't be getting scammed in the name of COVID 19 vaccines.

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Not long ago. Interpol has issued warnings to corruption and illegal fraud on covid vaccine issues 19. Amidst the fragile life of pandemic, control and coordination with agencies become loose - lack of personnel, resources to protect coordination. This is really serious. Strong measures are needed in the coming time to ensure accuracy in order to maintain life for all citizens in the world.
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Black markets are... black markets. They'll always find a way to sell anything at any given price. If people trust purchasing drugs through them, why are we surprised that they're purchasing vaccines as well?

The vaccine might be free in most countries, but for example in mine you have to sign up and wait in line for it. Hence, purchasing it off the black market makes you just theoretically skip the line.

If that's the case, if you're a customer in black market, it is really risky to buy vaccine because they can fake it.

It is much better to buy vaccine in the real supplier and in a guaranteed laboratory so that you can also secure your safety.

We all know that most of the activities in the black market are not safe and why will you risk your safety? Also don't rush on being vaccinated instead wait for the authorities or government to supply you a trusted vaccine because there's no huge difference if you will buy it in the black market and wait in the line for it.

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Referring to what has often happened is the crime of evil health workers, in my city, health workers are often caught.  maybe later some bad health workers buy the vaccine and then exchange it for expensive vaccines because currently, the price of vaccines from each pharmaceutical company is different..

I don't know whether this story is believable. The distribution of the vaccine is carefully controlled by the governments and every single vial is audited and accounted for. There may be a few corrupt healthcare workers in the system. But then stealing the vaccines would take active collusion from everyone involved, from the high ranking officials to the health care worker who is injecting the medication.

Maybe the people in dark web got it from 3rd world country which their distribution is somehow not carefully controlled and there's exploit in every corner? as I've heard many 3rd world countries already got vaccine either from china or western countries which make it possible for the illegal vaccine seller to obtain it ilegally.
But I doubt the vaccine they are selling is the real deal, maybe just some "fake vaccine" with no use whatsoever. Definitely would avoid at all cost, even if they sell it for pennies I won't buy LOL.

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January 23, 2021, 10:31:02 AM
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What are they thinking?

This is not desperation at all, this is just stupidity. How can someone trust the dark web? Doesn't mean that there is a vaccine in the dark web that means it is a legitimate vaccine, not even effective at least. I don't know where did they based their assumptions that they should buy these vaccine shots but this is just stupid.
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What are they thinking?

This is not desperation at all, this is just stupidity. How can someone trust the dark web? Doesn't mean that there is a vaccine in the dark web that means it is a legitimate vaccine, not even effective at least. I don't know where did they based their assumptions that they should buy these vaccine shots but this is just stupid.

In my country there is 0 chance of getting a real COVID 19 vaccine on the dark web. They are all fake at won't be worth anything. Worst case they could actually be harmful to you. I would advise strongly against buying any of those. So far the only people getting vaccinated are elderly people (80+ years) or hospital and retirment home staff. There seems to be a few rich people who make generous donations to retirement homes and then are able to get a vaccine with the elderly people even though they are much younger.
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I feel very lucky because the country in which I live the government is doing everything to ensure the health of its people and I am on the same side. I haven't seen this very common where I live, maybe illegal activities like this are difficult to do, but let's see what these horrible stories are doing, they're selling their conscience. In exchange for people's money, if someone is willing to pay to buy those things, it's bad.

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January 23, 2021, 11:13:04 AM
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What are they thinking?

This is not desperation at all, this is just stupidity. How can someone trust the dark web? Doesn't mean that there is a vaccine in the dark web that means it is a legitimate vaccine, not even effective at least. I don't know where did they based their assumptions that they should buy these vaccine shots but this is just stupid.

In my country there is 0 chance of getting a real COVID 19 vaccine on the dark web. They are all fake at won't be worth anything. Worst case they could actually be harmful to you. I would advise strongly against buying any of those. So far the only people getting vaccinated are elderly people (80+ years) or hospital and retirment home staff. There seems to be a few rich people who make generous donations to retirement homes and then are able to get a vaccine with the elderly people even though they are much younger.

Despite the country that you are in, I don't think it will be real.

We are talking about the deep web here, where a lot of creepy and illegal things can be bought. I don't think that is a reliable reason to say that there will be a legitimate vaccine that they can buy in there. Why not just wait for the vaccine and while they are waiting they just need to follow the safety precautions to avoid the virus. I know it is hard, that is just the same with the other countries.
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I feel very lucky because the country in which I live the government is doing everything to ensure the health of its people and I am on the same side. I haven't seen this very common where I live, maybe illegal activities like this are difficult to do, but let's see what these horrible stories are doing, they're selling their conscience. In exchange for people's money, if someone is willing to pay to buy those things, it's bad.

I think all of the governments of each country are doing their best to get as much a vaccine as they can for their people. It does not just affect the people but the country as a whole that is why we really need that vaccine but I don't think these people needed to buy vaccines on the dark web. They can just wait for the vaccine to come as they might take their lives easily with this fake vaccines.

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What are they thinking?

This is not desperation at all, this is just stupidity. How can someone trust the dark web? Doesn't mean that there is a vaccine in the dark web that means it is a legitimate vaccine, not even effective at least. I don't know where did they based their assumptions that they should buy these vaccine shots but this is just stupid.

In my country there is 0 chance of getting a real COVID 19 vaccine on the dark web. They are all fake at won't be worth anything. Worst case they could actually be harmful to you. I would advise strongly against buying any of those. So far the only people getting vaccinated are elderly people (80+ years) or hospital and retirment home staff. There seems to be a few rich people who make generous donations to retirement homes and then are able to get a vaccine with the elderly people even though they are much younger.

Despite the country that you are in, I don't think it will be real.

We are talking about the deep web here, where a lot of creepy and illegal things can be bought. I don't think that is a reliable reason to say that there will be a legitimate vaccine that they can buy in there. Why not just wait for the vaccine and while they are waiting they just need to follow the safety precautions to avoid the virus. I know it is hard, that is just the same with the other countries.

There is no reason to justify purchasing a vaccine on the darkweb. I agree with that. Tbh, if you look deeper, someone who accesses the darkweb 50% has bad intentions and contributes to illegal actions. So the vaccine buyers also have the same intention. Buying illegal items and being able to sell them again. Ordinary people will buy from them and become victims. This is just my opinion, but the fact is that there are many illegal drugs that are sold freely in the market and where do they come from?
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I remember seeing a post that before the mass production of the vaccine, people were already started selling vaccines under the dark web for like thousands of dollars and some were selling it for bitcoin.

To be honest, you can almost purchase at least everything under the dark web. You can all sorts of things, services, and products their ranging from weird to contraband and terrorizing stuffs. I just hope some people are not actually purchasing and trying all of these things.


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Buying vaccines on the black market is stupid, because vaccines cannot be sold freely (except in your own country which is regulated and determined by the government to be purchased online / offline), so buying vaccines on the black market in my opinion does not guarantee its authenticity.
If we are stupid, that doesn't mean they will easily fool us who just want to make money fraudulently and better wait for a vaccine from a safe and secure government.

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Buying vaccines on the black market is stupid, because vaccines cannot be sold freely (except in your own country which is regulated and determined by the government to be purchased online / offline), so buying vaccines on the black market in my opinion does not guarantee its authenticity.
If we are stupid, that doesn't mean they will easily fool us who just want to make money fraudulently and better wait for a vaccine from a safe and secure government.

That's true, if you want authentic one, why not contact your health authorities? You are already paying a hefty amount if you will contact these online scammers. Why not pay for the real product and genuine one? Your health is at risk, so don't ever trust these online sellers. Really stupid if you will buy one in the black market. There's no advantage of doing so. Instead you are putting yourself in danger. I don't understand why some people will choose to buy in the black market rather than trust their health authorities?
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I remember seeing a post that before the mass production of the vaccine, people were already started selling vaccines under the dark web for like thousands of dollars and some were selling it for bitcoin.

To be honest, you can almost purchase at least everything under the dark web. You can all sorts of things, services, and products their ranging from weird to contraband and terrorizing stuffs. I just hope some people are not actually purchasing and trying all of these things.

I think if anyone tries to do this and is ridiculous it is a fool and obviously the vaccine is very dangerous if it is illegal because before mass production the maker would not have distributed it before mass production and due diligence, so with that post I what is feared is the interest of some people who buy with bitcoin.

In fact, I don't want to be vaccinated because I saw some local news in my country that there are still people who died after the vaccine was injected, of course this is very terrible.

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January 25, 2021, 03:26:05 AM
Last edit: January 25, 2021, 03:47:12 AM by Sithara007
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That's true, if you want authentic one, why not contact your health authorities? You are already paying a hefty amount if you will contact these online scammers. Why not pay for the real product and genuine one? Your health is at risk, so don't ever trust these online sellers. Really stupid if you will buy one in the black market. There's no advantage of doing so. Instead you are putting yourself in danger. I don't understand why some people will choose to buy in the black market rather than trust their health authorities?

It have been pointed out multiple times that it is not possible to get the vaccine legally, unless you belong to the priority demographic group. So you can't just call your health authorities and tell them that you need the vaccine home delivered to your door step. They will simply tell you to get lost. Purchasing vaccine from the dark market is a bad idea, but I can understand why some people get so desperate.

BTW, I haven't heard about any incident where the authorities would pay you to contact the scammers. It is not our job. It is their problem and they need to sort it out.

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January 25, 2021, 04:27:12 AM
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Since the COVID-19 vaccination began, Dakrnet has regularly offered vaccine purchases at different prices.

https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-vaccines-for-sale-dark-web-coronavirus-shot-2020-12

Yesterday's news reports the sale of the vaccine for $1,000 in bitcoins.

https://www.businessinsider.com/vendors-sell-covid-vaccines-for-bitcoin-2021-1?r=US&IR=T

What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free?
Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? Angry

This is crazy! I may understand it if it's about Ebola or a similar deadly virus, but about this, I cannot.

I'm pro on vaccines, but I would never put anything in my body bought from the Darknet. I'm in the loss risk Coronavirus group, and I'm sure that some unknown substance is riskier than the virus itself.

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I'm pro on vaccines, but I would never put anything in my body bought from the Darknet. I'm in the loss risk Coronavirus group, and I'm sure that some unknown substance is riskier than the virus itself.

It has nothing to do with whether you are pro-vaccination or anti-vaccination. No one should purchase vaccines from unreliable sources, even if they are pro-vaccination. Everyone needs to wait for their turn, even if it means going without vaccination for 6 months or more. And who knows? Waiting for sometime for getting inoculated may prove to be beneficial in the end. 
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January 25, 2021, 11:29:47 AM
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This definitely just a water put into a vaccine bottle to make it look like they were really selling vaccines,

Well that will probably be safer than the Pharma vaccines. Reports indicate that the best results are that they reduce natural immunity by at least 20%, and then you have to consider the side effects. The best options to fight Covid are still sunlight, fresh air, hydration and miners like zinc. Giving up smoking and vaping is another essential choice

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It's not clear to me, does the darknet have its own audience? How do people know that there is a vaccine on Darnet? It's just strange for me why they write about this, it's free advertising.

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That's something I would not trust, why would a person in the right mind would buy a vaccine in dark web if soon it will be available, I think it's too risky and it might destroy our health or could be a cause of death if we are not careful. I thought dark web is more on illegal drugs, porn, weapons and ect. but vaccine is not necessary to be sold their since it's not illegal to get vaccinated.

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January 25, 2021, 03:34:21 PM
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Honestly if there is some powerful people that really want to reduce the world population using dark web will just be fine, people don't know what's inside those vaccine yet they are buying and drinking the stuff? There are many dangers within this path.... Humans are unbelievable some times

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January 26, 2021, 01:58:46 AM
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What's the goal of those people selling vaccine on the dark web if it's given free by the government. They're just giving a bad image of bitcoin to the public. Why would a sane person buy there if he doesn't know what it really is and the possible side effects of it. Does the government secretly buys to those people at cheaper prices compared to what we know and those vaccines are what people get as a citizen of that country?
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That's something I would not trust, why would a person in the right mind would buy a vaccine in dark web if soon it will be available, I think it's too risky and it might destroy our health or could be a cause of death if we are not careful. I thought dark web is more on illegal drugs, porn, weapons and ect. but vaccine is not necessary to be sold their since it's not illegal to get vaccinated.
I also could not imagine why would someone buy a vaccine on the darknet. You've said it. It poses a lot of risks. Even the vaccine produced by well-known pharmaceutical companies has still some side effects and we could be somehow sure that it really undergone clinical trials. But vaccine from the darknet? I think that's even riskier. But, it's still their decision. Maybe they're huge risk takers.

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I also could not imagine why would someone buy a vaccine on the darknet. You've said it. It poses a lot of risks. Even the vaccine produced by well-known pharmaceutical companies has still some side effects and we could be somehow sure that it really undergone clinical trials. But vaccine from the darknet? I think that's even riskier. But, it's still their decision. Maybe they're huge risk takers.

It is up to the individual to decide whether he want to take unreliable medications which are available from the shady sources or not. First of all, a section of the society is saying that the current bunch of vaccines from Pfizer/Modera haven't undergone the necessary clinical trials before they were introduced in to the market. So even for the government approved vaccines, there is a lot of hesitancy.

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I also could not imagine why would someone buy a vaccine on the darknet. You've said it. It poses a lot of risks. Even the vaccine produced by well-known pharmaceutical companies has still some side effects and we could be somehow sure that it really undergone clinical trials. But vaccine from the darknet? I think that's even riskier. But, it's still their decision. Maybe they're huge risk takers.

It is up to the individual to decide whether he want to take unreliable medications which are available from the shady sources or not. First of all, a section of the society is saying that the current bunch of vaccines from Pfizer/Modera haven't undergone the necessary clinical trials before they were introduced in to the market. So even for the government approved vaccines, there is a lot of hesitancy.

As bad as a vaccine is approved by WHO, it must be far worse for a vaccine that is not clear and is traded on the dark web.  Don't justify wrong actions.  It would be nice for us to remind each other that it was wrong.  The motivation to buy vaccines on the darkweb is the craziest motivation I've ever heard.  How a person with common sense sacrifices his health for a drug that is not clear where it came from.  How stupid is the buyer.
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Scammers are just taking advantage of people, at least where I live and I suppose that in many other countries as well the vaccine is going to be up for purchase, so if you are not going to be in one of the groups that is going to be vaccinated first you will have the option to buy it, but right now that is nothing but a dream as there is simply not enough supply of the vaccine, so scammers are making use of these facts and they are trying to make it seem as if they have access to the vaccine and sell it on the black market for such an outrageous price.
In some countries, vaccine tourism has already begun to flourish, when wealthy citizens travel to one arab country to relax and get vaccinated in combination with rest outside of all queues. Scammers play on such strings of the soul of certain people who do not want to wait for their turn in the case of mass vaccination, want to use a vaccine that is not available in the country of residence or just save money.
This is something that I did not knew but it makes complete sense, after all there is medical tourism already and it makes sense that with the vaccine probably being the most sought item in the entire world that those that are wealthy and can afford it are already getting the vaccine, personally I do not have a problem with this as long as they are following the rules of each country however there are many abusing their positions of power in order to get vaccinated first and this is wrong.

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January 28, 2021, 03:12:01 AM
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It is up to the individual to decide whether he want to take unreliable medications which are available from the shady sources or not. First of all, a section of the society is saying that the current bunch of vaccines from Pfizer/Modera haven't undergone the necessary clinical trials before they were introduced in to the market. So even for the government approved vaccines, there is a lot of hesitancy.

As bad as a vaccine is approved by WHO, it must be far worse for a vaccine that is not clear and is traded on the dark web.  Don't justify wrong actions.  It would be nice for us to remind each other that it was wrong.  The motivation to buy vaccines on the darkweb is the craziest motivation I've ever heard.  How a person with common sense sacrifices his health for a drug that is not clear where it came from.  How stupid is the buyer.

I didn't justified anyone. I was just saying that people are responsible for their own actions. A number of people, whom I have talked to have indicated that they will refuse to undergo vaccination, despite the claims by vaccine manufacturers that they are safe. So what I was trying to say is that irrespective of whether the vaccine is approved by the WHO or not, some people would refuse to take it.

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