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January 15, 2021, 05:06:22 PM |
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Wow, seriously wow... how insane someone needs to be to buy a vaccine on darknet ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I saw some people commented that only stupid people would buy vaccine on darknet, and someone replied that stupid people don't know how to access darknet (which I agree with). According to market laws when there's a demand, there's gotta be supply. So if "smart people" (who know how to access darknet) really wanted to buy vaccine online, well, there are scammers who are willing to sell it to them. However, I would also assume that some people might have preference and bias towards specific vaccine developer vs. others. For example, it's known that Russian vaccine has not passed all the necessary tests and was rolled out too quick, American vaccine is not that efficient actually, while Chinese vaccine has over 70 side-effects. Some of it might be black PR, some of it might be true, but some people might be wanting to get a vaccine developed by X, instead of the one offered by local government, therefore they could be searching for alternatives I assume. For those of you who is interested, here's a pretty good list of all available vaccines and the ones still in clinical trials: https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2020/3/covid-19-vaccine-tracker
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January 15, 2021, 05:32:47 PM |
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Why people are falling for such scams while the governments of different countries are into development of the vaccine and has started to use on citizens. Every stage of development happened in a transparent manner, and some vaccines didn't fulfill the requirements whereas the rest have reached the market. Almost every government prioritise the frontline workers during covid-19 and further to the rest of the people. If people can't have patience for a short time period, then let them be a prey for the scammers.
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January 15, 2021, 05:43:12 PM |
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How are they able to guarantee their buyers that the vaccines are real?
You just have to trust if you indeed need to be safe. In Europe and middle east I think the vaccines are already distributed and Sinovac is the cheapest by far. I wouldnt mind buying but I can go out and work without vaccine, there isnt the urgency to take one.
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January 15, 2021, 08:29:45 PM |
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If you've bought your "vaccine" from the dark web, you deserve whatever nonsense they put in the vial and you are about to inject into your body. I can't even imagine the type of person who is capable enough to navigate the dark web, but not smart enough to critically think that what they're buying is legitimate, but apparently those people do exist!
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January 15, 2021, 09:05:53 PM |
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Some people are pretty desperate, and would go through ‘shortcuts’ in order to get their hands on something that isn’t officially available until X amount time has passed. The million dollar question here is: if those vaccines are indeed the true concoctions, who the hell is releasing them in the public? I know that most production facilities for the approved vaccines are already functional, but their orders are already booked even before they are created. This should be investigated if there’s a sliver of truth on the dark web ads IMO because those vaccines may harm people if improperly administered.
This just further proves that some people are really over-the-top opportunists and overly-greedy, making money of the public’s necessity.
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January 15, 2021, 09:26:56 PM |
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Some people are pretty desperate, and would go through ‘shortcuts’ in order to get their hands on something that isn’t officially available until X amount time has passed. The million dollar question here is: if those vaccines are indeed the true concoctions, who the hell is releasing them in the public? I know that most production facilities for the approved vaccines are already functional, but their orders are already booked even before they are created. This should be investigated if there’s a sliver of truth on the dark web ads IMO because those vaccines may harm people if improperly administered.
This just further proves that some people are really over-the-top opportunists and overly-greedy, making money of the public’s necessity.
Desperation for them to get healed is one of the reason on why there are really people who do really end up on buying despite the fact that you dont even know on where these vaccine originated or do came from. Sale would continue as long there would be a demand of this vaccines.It would completely stop when someone doesnt buy these vaccines but hey people do end up on this decisions when they are trying out something that might work specially covid vaccines which is highly demanded.
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January 15, 2021, 09:51:38 PM |
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What are the scammers hoping for? Who will purchase such a product when vaccinations are given to everyone for free? Is it possible that impatience of people and haste can lead to a thoughtless purchase of a vaccine from someone who is not clear? What's going on in people's heads? And also where did the scammers get the vaccines? They offer wholesale purchases. Can anyone trust anyone now? ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) It could be that these scammers are selling this vaccines to fellow scammers in bulk orders or whole sale to later on distribute in the public. Perfect example is when a local government unit is looking to buy cheap vaccines to save themselves a huge budget cut. Nevertheless, the government is giving these vaccines for free (at least here in my country), so to make things short, any government is susceptible to buy these fake products. This will then confuse the people about the concern of the vaccines' side effects.
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January 15, 2021, 10:27:37 PM |
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Some people are pretty desperate, and would go through ‘shortcuts’ in order to get their hands on something that isn’t officially available until X amount time has passed. The million dollar question here is: if those vaccines are indeed the true concoctions, who the hell is releasing them in the public? I know that most production facilities for the approved vaccines are already functional, but their orders are already booked even before they are created. This should be investigated if there’s a sliver of truth on the dark web ads IMO because those vaccines may harm people if improperly administered.
This just further proves that some people are really over-the-top opportunists and overly-greedy, making money of the public’s necessity.
They are not thinking about the safety of what they are doing, I can say that those people tend to scam other people, they might buy a lot of supplies of vaccines underground and they will sell them at a higher price. We are not sure if those vaccines are really effective, as of now, we should be careful taking vaccines, there are people who will take advantage of the situation and take the opportunity to scam other people. I recommend that you should wait for your own government of the LGU to decide what vaccine you should use.
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January 15, 2021, 10:42:38 PM |
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Some people are pretty desperate, and would go through ‘shortcuts’ in order to get their hands on something that isn’t officially available until X amount time has passed. The million dollar question here is: if those vaccines are indeed the true concoctions, who the hell is releasing them in the public? I know that most production facilities for the approved vaccines are already functional, but their orders are already booked even before they are created. This should be investigated if there’s a sliver of truth on the dark web ads IMO because those vaccines may harm people if improperly administered. This just further proves that some people are really over-the-top opportunists and overly-greedy, making money of the public’s necessity.
They are not thinking about the safety of what they are doing, I can say that those people tend to scam other people, they might buy a lot of supplies of vaccines underground and they will sell them at a higher price. We are not sure if those vaccines are really effective, as of now, we should be careful taking vaccines, there are people who will take advantage of the situation and take the opportunity to scam other people. I recommend that you should wait for your own government of the LGU to decide what vaccine you should use. Amateur performance is a dangerous thing in such matters. No matter how skeptical we are about the actions of our own states in the field of health, but vaccination is a very specific and important thing, so that people trust the dark market with such issues, because the price of such actions can be undermined health or even death. Sometimes there are scandals about the storage and transportation of the vaccine through official channels, and in dark web that you will not be able to guarantee it.
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January 16, 2021, 03:48:36 AM |
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If you've bought your "vaccine" from the dark web, you deserve whatever nonsense they put in the vial and you are about to inject into your body. I can't even imagine the type of person who is capable enough to navigate the dark web, but not smart enough to critically think that what they're buying is legitimate, but apparently those people do exist!
A lot of people already get their medications from the dark web. Even chemotherapy medications (which are very difficult to administer safely) are purchased from the dark web as they cost only a fraction of the market rates. Rather than treating the syndrome, we should be treating the disease. We should look in to the reason why some people are purchasing the medicines from dark web.
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January 16, 2021, 05:56:36 AM |
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Wherever they got it, crap I won't even purchase it. I'd rather keep myself healthy when I begin having the symptoms of it. Best to just wait for your government to acquire it. If they sell it or not, it doesn't matter. As long as it is the legitimate one that your body will intake. You don't want to be putting anything in your body now especially from the unregistered companies. It could be a waste of money or worse, it will infect you with a new kind of sickness.
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January 16, 2021, 09:13:39 AM |
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Purchasing drugs in the dark web is common. But purchasing a vaccine is a different story. It's literally someone's life on the line here. And I think even if it's a patronizer of the black market, I think he'd think twice about buying one. Well, not unless he's sure that it's totally trusted and will definitely save his life from this virus. But whatever the case is, I wouldn't buy one in that place. Even if it means saving money or skipping the waiting line.
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January 16, 2021, 09:47:11 AM |
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Vaccine is part of the remedy. It isn't assured that you won't get attacked by covid-19 anymore. There are several cases on whom the vaccination is done. Even after that people are getting it covid-19 again. Whatever the vaccine is into usage, we ourselves must concentrate on developing the immunity of our body. People who are spending on darkweb can get some immune rich food and keep their health good.
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January 16, 2021, 10:02:28 AM |
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But are those free vaccines that we are going to receive from the Government that mostly has been purchased to China is proven really effective? I guess not. If I'm going to choose, I'd rather buy one from the darkweb, however, it is very risky for my identity as well as I might get arrested for doing so. In short, our choices is either accept the vaccine on the Government and secretly don't use it too soon (if it will given to us individually) or directly accept it since they are going to be injected to us by medical personnels and pray that it will work just fine. Imagine staying at home for a year already and you died because of the free vaccine, that's so tragic.
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January 16, 2021, 10:17:54 AM |
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But are those free vaccines that we are going to receive from the Government that mostly has been purchased to China is proven really effective? I guess not. If I'm going to choose, I'd rather buy one from the darkweb, however, it is very risky for my identity as well as I might get arrested for doing so. In short, our choices is either accept the vaccine on the Government and secretly don't use it too soon (if it will given to us individually) or directly accept it since they are going to be injected to us by medical personnels and pray that it will work just fine. Imagine staying at home for a year already and you died because of the free vaccine, that's so tragic. The vaccine came from china has been used by many countries and the efficacy of it has been approved by FDA so it means its effective. Look at china now they are getting back on their feet where social gatherings are slowly getting getting back again. And besides if you choose to get the Vaccine made by USA or Russia for sure it will take us long time to wait since the demand is so high that's why its so lucky for all of us to have the Chinese made vaccine since they are truly available and ready to distribute.
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January 16, 2021, 10:26:52 AM |
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Isn't the vaccine starts to roll out already? in most part of the world more specifically those countries that invented the vaccine, this vaccine from darknet thing just will be gone very soon since the vaccine itself is affordable and I've read some of the company that provides vaccine giving it out for free. Whoever bought vaccine from darkweb whilst living in developed country and impatience enough to not wait few days should get their brain checked for real.
Unfortunately it is not something you can get very quickly, it is taking some time and rolling out process is a long one, so people do still buy it. Obviously it is probably a 6 months to 1 year business model for these scammers, at the end of the day people will not be capable of selling it since almost everyone will have a chance to take it by that time, but as of right now, you can't just go to any hospital and say you want to get it made, which is why I think it is quite obvious why it is being sold. I do not think it would be wise to buy it off darknet, doesn't matter if it is legit the real vaccine or even maybe a fake one, but whatever it is, wait for your turn to come in the real deal and that way you could probably handle it a lot better. There is really nothing wrong with waiting a bit more and getting it made by a professional in a hospital.
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January 16, 2021, 02:18:08 PM |
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How many people have contracted covid- 19? Compared to a small portion of vaccines licensed safely and sold in other countries, Moderna and Pfizer certainly aren't enough for the world. I think, before other more efficient and more advanced vaccines were produced. There will certainly be plenty of opportunities for them to make us more painful. The world is in chaos!
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January 16, 2021, 03:16:46 PM |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300284.msg56040312#msg56040312This is the earlier thread about it and I think people are still not learning from these mistakes. They are endangering their lives and they never know the sources of these vaccines. They are dealing with the dark web, how are they not thinking about themselves? That they are more in danger if they bought into these sources? I know that the vaccine is limited but this is just stupid.
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January 16, 2021, 04:00:19 PM |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300284.msg56040312#msg56040312This is the earlier thread about it and I think people are still not learning from these mistakes. They are endangering their lives and they never know the sources of these vaccines. They are dealing with the dark web, how are they not thinking about themselves? That they are more in danger if they bought into these sources? I know that the vaccine is limited but this is just stupid. It just shows that those people who bought vaccines from the dark web is in desperate choice or they were just stupid believing a vaccine that hasn't been released from the public without knowing who made it and what are the substance can be found on that vaccine. Those scammers are probably laughing while they sold those vaccines that who knows what magic they put on that and they were still making money. I hope the authority could trace those people who sells it and stop them or they might endangering more lives in the future.
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January 17, 2021, 06:33:16 AM |
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If you've bought your "vaccine" from the dark web, you deserve whatever nonsense they put in the vial and you are about to inject into your body. I can't even imagine the type of person who is capable enough to navigate the dark web, but not smart enough to critically think that what they're buying is legitimate, but apparently those people do exist!
A lot of people already get their medications from the dark web. Even chemotherapy medications (which are very difficult to administer safely) are purchased from the dark web as they cost only a fraction of the market rates. Rather than treating the syndrome, we should be treating the disease. We should look in to the reason why some people are purchasing the medicines from dark web. And why do you suppose that is? Because it sounds to me that thieves are stealing medicines then to sell them on the dark web (however prevalent of an occurrence that may be), thereby driving up the cost for people who operate legally in the system (i.e., the rest of us).
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