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January 27, 2021, 10:14:40 PM
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I believe what Iron Mike Tyson said about Tyson Fury to be true: "He is the best heavyweight champion of the world since myself. He is the man, I don’t care what anybody says." If Iron Mike says that who am I to say the opposite? He is going to win the match against AJ.
This is the thing those that are great can recognize greatness as well and it is obvious the best heavyweight of the past decade is Fury, if it was not because of his struggles outside the ring he would have been even more dominant which is in fact a story similar to what happened to Mike, if it was not because of all of his problems outside the ring he would have lasted at the top way longer, the difference is that Fury was able to make a comeback while Mike was never the same after his personal problems.

I like the comparison since Iron Mike recognize Fury he can see the level of this man and how he really dominates his era,  and like what you said both have similar issues outside the ring.


The good thing with Fury he was able to come back and still have the same level of recognitions while Iron Mike wasn't, he was completely forgotten as he behave unnaturally. It would be a great fight between this two heavyweights proving and adding more recognitions while they are still active fighting.

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January 27, 2021, 11:01:01 PM
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I believe what Iron Mike Tyson said about Tyson Fury to be true: "He is the best heavyweight champion of the world since myself. He is the man, I don’t care what anybody says." If Iron Mike says that who am I to say the opposite? He is going to win the match against AJ.
This is the thing those that are great can recognize greatness as well and it is obvious the best heavyweight of the past decade is Fury, if it was not because of his struggles outside the ring he would have been even more dominant which is in fact a story similar to what happened to Mike, if it was not because of all of his problems outside the ring he would have lasted at the top way longer, the difference is that Fury was able to make a comeback while Mike was never the same after his personal problems.

I like the comparison since Iron Mike recognize Fury he can see the level of this man and how he really dominates his era,  and like what you said both have similar issues outside the ring.


The good thing with Fury he was able to come back and still have the same level of recognitions while Iron Mike wasn't, he was completely forgotten as he behave unnaturally. It would be a great fight between this two heavyweights proving and adding more recognitions while they are still active fighting.

It should happen, boxing fans are the reason why they are popular now, and therefore they should give this big fight.

Time to love the heavyweights than the lower division of boxing as they really have some bulls to risk their undefeated record and fighting the best in the business. Though AJ has one loss but people does not really think it's a real loss against a great fighter, people though AJ was just too complacent during the fight and he was able to regain redeemed himself, so still now one of the best boxer in his generation. 

Two great fighter fighting is such a great treat for the fans, promoter can make big money in this fight because fans are satisfied, now, I can say that's the real definition of entertainment.

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January 28, 2021, 04:03:39 AM
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I checked the odds, and Fury is at -185, while Joshua is having odds of +150. Given the odds, I am being tempted to make a bet in favor of Anthony Joshua. Despite all the hype surrounding Tyson Fury, I don't think that he is a much better fighter when compared to Joshua. Fury is being overhyped at the moment and inside the boxing ring things may turn out different for him.

IMO, both the boxers are having almost equal chances. I would go with Joshua, since his odds are better.

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January 28, 2021, 04:51:03 AM
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I checked the odds, and Fury is at -185, while Joshua is having odds of +150. Given the odds, I am being tempted to make a bet in favor of Anthony Joshua. Despite all the hype surrounding Tyson Fury, I don't think that he is a much better fighter when compared to Joshua. Fury is being overhyped at the moment and inside the boxing ring things may turn out different for him.

IMO, both the boxers are having almost equal chances. I would go with Joshua, since his odds are better.

I don't know if I would call it being overhyped. He did beat one of the most feared punchers in dominant fashion. He has shown that from a technical aspect he is the most skilled heavyweight fighter. Joshua still appears to be trying to overcome that knockout loss that tarnished his image. He has changed his style and is more cautious now but fans still have their doubts about how he will hold up against someone on Fury's level.

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January 28, 2021, 09:45:15 AM
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I checked the odds, and Fury is at -185, while Joshua is having odds of +150. Given the odds, I am being tempted to make a bet in favor of Anthony Joshua. Despite all the hype surrounding Tyson Fury, I don't think that he is a much better fighter when compared to Joshua. Fury is being overhyped at the moment and inside the boxing ring things may turn out different for him.

IMO, both the boxers are having almost equal chances. I would go with Joshua, since his odds are better.

I don't know if I would call it being overhyped. He did beat one of the most feared punchers in dominant fashion. He has shown that from a technical aspect he is the most skilled heavyweight fighter. Joshua still appears to be trying to overcome that knockout loss that tarnished his image. He has changed his style and is more cautious now but fans still have their doubts about how he will hold up against someone on Fury's level.

We have our own opinion, betting odds are created by bookmakers based on people's opinion but it does not please everyone that's why some bettors bet on Fury while some would bet on Joshua. As a fan of Joshua, we call it overhype, but that's what it is, we get what we see, the real challenge is only when pulling the trigger to bet, so now, which side we are? Doesn't matter because there's always bettors on the other side.

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January 28, 2021, 01:26:56 PM
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Both defeated Klitschko, so we can expect this fight would be pretty even. I think betting on whoever gets the best multiplier can be a nice strategy. I rate Fury slightly better than AJ, but if Fury got -185, I'd rather go with AJ.

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January 28, 2021, 02:28:47 PM
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I like the comparison since Iron Mike recognize Fury he can see the level of this man and how he really dominates his era,  and like what you said both have similar issues outside the ring.
There is another comparison, John Fury the dad of Tyson Fury was a die hard fan of Mike Tyson and when Fury was born he gave the name Tyson to honor Mike Tyson and now Mike Tyson adores his skills and they have a level of mutual respect towards each other and he always supports Tyson Fury in all of his fights.
 

Both defeated Klitschko, so we can expect this fight would be pretty even. I think betting on whoever gets the best multiplier can be a nice strategy. I rate Fury slightly better than AJ, but if Fury got -185, I'd rather go with AJ.
There is a major difference in both of those fights, when Tyson Fury faced Wladimir Klitschko was the heavyweight champion and dominating the heavyweight division and Anthony Joshua faced when Klitschko was returning after the defeat from Fury. So there is a major difference in both of those fights.
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January 28, 2021, 05:05:16 PM
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I maybe in favor to Tyson this fight if in case their match will likely to happen as he has an advantage in terms of talent,experience and record. Though Joshua can't be belittled also as he has a good record even if he has 1 loss, he is also a great fighter so I am pretty sure that this fight will be intense and it will be worth to watch.

If both fighter will be in good condition then I guess there is a big possibility that it will not last until the last round as there will be a KO for sure especially that both fighter has a punching power.
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January 28, 2021, 05:24:03 PM
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I checked the odds, and Fury is at -185, while Joshua is having odds of +150. Given the odds, I am being tempted to make a bet in favor of Anthony Joshua. Despite all the hype surrounding Tyson Fury, I don't think that he is a much better fighter when compared to Joshua. Fury is being overhyped at the moment and inside the boxing ring things may turn out different for him.
It is not always about the odds. Though, I do get your logic. Tyson Fury is undoubtedly as the best boxer the world has seen, Joshua is good but I think he still has a lot to learn. He already got defeated by Andy Ruiz and the rematch was a close call anyway. I think going for the biggest one left, Tyson is going to be challenge for him.
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January 28, 2021, 05:47:01 PM
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I maybe in favor to Tyson this fight if in case their match will likely to happen as he has an advantage in terms of talent,experience and record. Though Joshua can't be belittled also as he has a good record even if he has 1 loss, he is also a great fighter so I am pretty sure that this fight will be intense and it will be worth to watch.

If both fighter will be in good condition then I guess there is a big possibility that it will not last until the last round as there will be a KO for sure especially that both fighter has a punching power.
This duel between Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury will be the greatest fighter in the history of heavyweight boxing in England, which is both interesting to witness as well as to prove who the number one heavyweight boxer in the world is.
It looks like AJ is very ambitious and will challenge anyone who has the world title, he will challenge him including Fury.
and usually if the challenger is arrogant and the ambition to win the fight will be very easily defeated.
and this fight will be very interesting and intense and will generate a lot of money.

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January 28, 2021, 07:55:14 PM
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I checked the odds, and Fury is at -185, while Joshua is having odds of +150. Given the odds, I am being tempted to make a bet in favor of Anthony Joshua. Despite all the hype surrounding Tyson Fury, I don't think that he is a much better fighter when compared to Joshua. Fury is being overhyped at the moment and inside the boxing ring things may turn out different for him.
It is not always about the odds. Though, I do get your logic. Tyson Fury is undoubtedly as the best boxer the world has seen, Joshua is good but I think he still has a lot to learn. He already got defeated by Andy Ruiz and the rematch was a close call anyway. I think going for the biggest one left, Tyson is going to be challenge for him.
We do have our own inputs though and I do recognized on what he had mentioned about Fury is being overhyped but to say that he do really get that position basing off on  real skills and experience

it isn't really just for show yet he wont really get that popularity if he's not capable of. Anthony Joshua is indeed still needing lots of things to learn and this match will really
be a good example of that.

If odds are bit reasonable on Fury then why not bet on him? If not worth then simply skip out.

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January 28, 2021, 09:48:56 PM
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I maybe in favor to Tyson this fight if in case their match will likely to happen as he has an advantage in terms of talent,experience and record. Though Joshua can't be belittled also as he has a good record even if he has 1 loss, he is also a great fighter so I am pretty sure that this fight will be intense and it will be worth to watch.

If both fighter will be in good condition then I guess there is a big possibility that it will not last until the last round as there will be a KO for sure especially that both fighter has a punching power.
This duel between Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury will be the greatest fighter in the history of heavyweight boxing in England, which is both interesting to witness as well as to prove who the number one heavyweight boxer in the world is.
It looks like AJ is very ambitious and will challenge anyone who has the world title, he will challenge him including Fury.
and usually if the challenger is arrogant and the ambition to win the fight will be very easily defeated.
and this fight will be very interesting and intense and will generate a lot of money.

At least both fighters are interesting to watch rather than put your money on Mayweather vs Logan Paul, right?  Tongue With Fury vs Joshua, we are watching real fight here.
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January 28, 2021, 10:34:00 PM
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I maybe in favor to Tyson this fight if in case their match will likely to happen as he has an advantage in terms of talent,experience and record. Though Joshua can't be belittled also as he has a good record even if he has 1 loss, he is also a great fighter so I am pretty sure that this fight will be intense and it will be worth to watch.

If both fighter will be in good condition then I guess there is a big possibility that it will not last until the last round as there will be a KO for sure especially that both fighter has a punching power.
This duel between Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury will be the greatest fighter in the history of heavyweight boxing in England, which is both interesting to witness as well as to prove who the number one heavyweight boxer in the world is.
It looks like AJ is very ambitious and will challenge anyone who has the world title, he will challenge him including Fury.
and usually if the challenger is arrogant and the ambition to win the fight will be very easily defeated.
and this fight will be very interesting and intense and will generate a lot of money.

At least both fighters are interesting to watch rather than put your money on Mayweather vs Logan Paul, right?  Tongue With Fury vs Joshua, we are watching real fight here.

You can't compare an exhibition fight on a real fight, this fight will make a history in boxing, the Mayweather vs Logan Paul is just an entertainment to take money from people, it will be forgotten but this one is now, especially if it's going to be a trilogy.

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January 29, 2021, 10:09:38 AM
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I like the comparison since Iron Mike recognize Fury he can see the level of this man and how he really dominates his era,  and like what you said both have similar issues outside the ring.
There is another comparison, John Fury the dad of Tyson Fury was a die hard fan of Mike Tyson and when Fury was born he gave the name Tyson to honor Mike Tyson and now Mike Tyson adores his skills and they have a level of mutual respect towards each other and he always supports Tyson Fury in all of his fights.
 

That's an interesting fact, for sure Fury is very honored knowing that his dad's idol is now adoring him, the inspiration to become the
greatest fighter of all time will push Fury to achieved.

Iron Mike was able to established his name during his time and now Fury is also concreting his way being  known as the best fighter of
all time, another test for his greatness and another show for his supporters and fans, another best fight to watch out as both fighters
have the power punch to take down their opponents.


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I maybe in favor to Tyson this fight if in case their match will likely to happen as he has an advantage in terms of talent,experience and record. Though Joshua can't be belittled also as he has a good record even if he has 1 loss, he is also a great fighter so I am pretty sure that this fight will be intense and it will be worth to watch.

If both fighter will be in good condition then I guess there is a big possibility that it will not last until the last round as there will be a KO for sure especially that both fighter has a punching power.
This duel between Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury will be the greatest fighter in the history of heavyweight boxing in England, which is both interesting to witness as well as to prove who the number one heavyweight boxer in the world is.
It looks like AJ is very ambitious and will challenge anyone who has the world title, he will challenge him including Fury.
and usually if the challenger is arrogant and the ambition to win the fight will be very easily defeated.
and this fight will be very interesting and intense and will generate a lot of money.

At least both fighters are interesting to watch rather than put your money on Mayweather vs Logan Paul, right?  Tongue With Fury vs Joshua, we are watching real fight here.

Of course this is the real deal of a fight, I will still consider Joshua a great fighter, he avenge his defeat against Ruiz, so you can call his record still undefeated. Mayweather vs Logan is a joke, or whatever exhibition boxing match is. They can't really be compare to any boxing fight for that matter.

Besides the Fury vs Wilder, this is the most anticipated fight of the year, a lot at stake, specially being crown as the best British boxer of this generation.

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January 29, 2021, 05:35:09 PM
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I maybe in favor to Tyson this fight if in case their match will likely to happen as he has an advantage in terms of talent,experience and record. Though Joshua can't be belittled also as he has a good record even if he has 1 loss, he is also a great fighter so I am pretty sure that this fight will be intense and it will be worth to watch.

If both fighter will be in good condition then I guess there is a big possibility that it will not last until the last round as there will be a KO for sure especially that both fighter has a punching power.
This duel between Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury will be the greatest fighter in the history of heavyweight boxing in England, which is both interesting to witness as well as to prove who the number one heavyweight boxer in the world is.
It looks like AJ is very ambitious and will challenge anyone who has the world title, he will challenge him including Fury.
and usually if the challenger is arrogant and the ambition to win the fight will be very easily defeated.
and this fight will be very interesting and intense and will generate a lot of money.

At least both fighters are interesting to watch rather than put your money on Mayweather vs Logan Paul, right?  Tongue With Fury vs Joshua, we are watching real fight here.

The fight between Logan Paul and Mayweather is obviously a fight with business on their respective minds as they know that they will earn big bucks. On the other hand, the fight between Tyson and Joshua will arguably go down as one of the most anticipated fights in heavyweight boxing history.

As what I previously mentioned, the raw skill and talent that Tyson has is unparalleled at the moment. Don't get me wrong, Anthony Joshua is a tremendous fighter but I have to go all in to the Gypsy King on this one. Just watching him evade and get those points is just pure art.
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The fight between Logan Paul and Mayweather is obviously a fight with business on their respective minds as they know that they will earn big bucks. On the other hand, the fight between Tyson and Joshua will arguably go down as one of the most anticipated fights in heavyweight boxing history.
Perhaps Fury, unlike Mayweather, is not so popular, it still did not prevent his managers from knocking out a hundred millionth contract ... besides, this fight will be more hardcore, which cannot but rejoice, (and, in theory, the winner of this battle will meet with the Ru Leo). BTW, about the expected battles... I recently learned that retirees Holyfield and Tyson are negotiating a third fight with a prize fund of 200 million. It looks like this is a year of show fights, boxer vs youtuber, Tyson's dull fight with Roy Jones and now the battle of retirees, the world of boxing is going to hell ...

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That's an interesting fact, for sure Fury is very honored knowing that his dad's idol is now adoring him, the inspiration to become the
greatest fighter of all time will push Fury to achieved.
Another fun fact is that Tyson Fury was born premature and was just weighing around a pound when he was born and the doctors said it is hard for him to survive but he overcame and he became the world champion and then went down with depression and suicidal thoughts and he even attempted to slam his car and end his life during his darkest days but to come back and then perform in a world stage and defeat another champion and become the champion once again is incredible, his life story is like a movie.
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Does it really need to be proven out? Its really clear and known on who has really the advantage.Wilder is good and even Joshua where these fights
did really get significant recognition into this sport and into this career but no one can just easily neglect out on how Fury do really able to
built up his reputation and popularity through his own fighting style and capabilities. Its clear that he would be the favorite on next fight which
it is not a surprising thing and about the probabilities of winning is high but AJ will really be giving some good fight.
The main aspect of Tyson Fury's game plan is that he adapts to the fighter and he is willing to change is style according to the opponent and he can turn his game plan if something is not working during the fight and that makes him a great champion. I like Anthony Joshua but one time he found resistance during the fight he was not able to overcome that and change his game plan during the fight and that is his weakness.
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That's an interesting fact, for sure Fury is very honored knowing that his dad's idol is now adoring him, the inspiration to become the
greatest fighter of all time will push Fury to achieved.
Another fun fact is that Tyson Fury was born premature and was just weighing around a pound when he was born and the doctors said it is hard for him to survive but he overcame and he became the world champion and then went down with depression and suicidal thoughts and he even attempted to slam his car and end his life during his darkest days but to come back and then perform in a world stage and defeat another champion and become the champion once again is incredible, his life story is like a movie.

As a Russian proverb says, what doesn't kill us makes us stronger. People who have survived difficult situations in life have very high capabilities in terms of motivation and stamina. Tyson Fury is just like that, his willpower is higher than most of his opponents in the ring.

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