[Boxing] Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

[Ziskinberg]

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What happens is that many of those that begin their careers in such a difficult sport begin as people that are very poor and then when they find themselves with so much success they do not know what to do with and they fall in all kind of temptations and the problem is that unlike other industries, like the music industry for example, they are athletes and they need their bodies to perform at the top level, and many times they end up destroying their bodies so there is no chance for a comeback story, it is rare for this to happen which should tell us how talented and out of the ordinary someone like Fury really is.

You said it perfectly, Sport psychology is more important and you need to get guidance from a sports psychologist and if Tyson Fury did that during his career he would have continued boxing without taking a break because of depression. I saw his speech about how he went into depression when all his goals were met when he defeated Wladimir Klitschko he had nothing else to accomplish and that was his ultimate goal in life and he went into depression after that.

So this is not only about losing, even if a boxer will win he can also feel depress? I never know that but I'm glad it's been shared. So probably the depression Wilder has been going through is more serious since this is coming from a big loss in their rematch and it might take time before he can accept which is the only way for him to recover from that depression.

[icopress]

Hell, looking at the history of boxing on wikipedia, namely the statistics of heavyweights, I noticed something in common between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. They almost at the same time won the fights against Klitschko, which, in fact, put a fat point in his career. I thought that Klitschko was an unsurpassed fighter of his time, although it is not surprising that I thought so, given that he held the title for a total of 12 years. .. all the same, age takes its toll.

[Viscore]

Hell, looking at the history of boxing on wikipedia, namely the statistics of heavyweights, I noticed something in common between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. They almost at the same time won the fights against Klitschko, which, in fact, put a fat point in his career. I thought that Klitschko was an unsurpassed fighter of his time, although it is not surprising that I thought so, given that he held the title for a total of 12 years. .. all the same, age takes its toll.

Anthony Joshua had an impressive win on Klitschko compared to Fury as Joshua were able to knock Klitschko down which is a very good fighter, it's just sad that Klitschko was not anymore on his prime that time but still prove that Joshua is a high caliber kind of boxer.

[ene1980]

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So this is not only about losing, even if a boxer will win he can also feel depress? I never know that but I'm glad it's been shared. So probably the depression Wilder has been going through is more serious since this is coming from a big loss in their rematch and it might take time before he can accept which is the only way for him to recover from that depression.

Anyone can go into depression at any given moment. The pressure of an athlete or any celebrity is high as every move is scrutinized and talked about and when you are in the spotlight all the time you might start feeling the pressure and to overcome that they will start using drugs to ease up their nerves and then it will end up as an addiction which will destroy them. Tyson Fury came out and told his issues so that if anyone is going through the same issues his experience could help them recover from these depressions.

[Questat]

Hell, looking at the history of boxing on wikipedia, namely the statistics of heavyweights, I noticed something in common between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. They almost at the same time won the fights against Klitschko, which, in fact, put a fat point in his career. I thought that Klitschko was an unsurpassed fighter of his time, although it is not surprising that I thought so, given that he held the title for a total of 12 years. .. all the same, age takes its toll.

Anthony Joshua had an impressive win on Klitschko compared to Fury as Joshua were able to knock Klitschko down which is a very good fighter, it's just sad that Klitschko was not anymore on his prime that time but still prove that Joshua is a high caliber kind of boxer.

Yeah that's correct, I guess it's Fury first who fought Klitschko, Fury won then next is Joshua vs Klitschko, Joshua won.

Anyway, let's focus on the fight, it's Joshua vs Fury now and these are the best big man currently and they will surely give us an exciting fight, probably better than the Fury vs Wilder as both does work hard to win, hopefully no excuses like Wilder's thing after the fight.

[icopress]

Fury's fight with Klitschko, by the way, has a rather interesting background. Tyson defeated former rival Klitschko's - Chisora but abandoned the fight with the Klitschkov in 2011 and  accepted him in 2015. This is pretty reasonable considering that the age difference among boxers is more than 12 years old. Not to mention the fact that it was a mandatory fight that neither Fury nor Klitschko could cancel. Yet life is not a movie (when 50-year-old Rocky defeats a young rival).

[milewilda]

Hell, looking at the history of boxing on wikipedia, namely the statistics of heavyweights, I noticed something in common between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. They almost at the same time won the fights against Klitschko, which, in fact, put a fat point in his career. I thought that Klitschko was an unsurpassed fighter of his time, although it is not surprising that I thought so, given that he held the title for a total of 12 years. .. all the same, age takes its toll.

Anthony Joshua had an impressive win on Klitschko compared to Fury as Joshua were able to knock Klitschko down which is a very good fighter, it's just sad that Klitschko was not anymore on his prime that time but still prove that Joshua is a high caliber kind of boxer.

Yeah that's correct, I guess it's Fury first who fought Klitschko, Fury won then next is Joshua vs Klitschko, Joshua won.

Anyway, let's focus on the fight, it's Joshua vs Fury now and these are the best big man currently and they will surely give us an exciting fight, probably better than the Fury vs Wilder as both does work hard to win, hopefully no excuses like Wilder's thing after the fight.

Why i do have the feeling that Joshua will be making out some excuses or reasoning just like on what Wilder did?  Lol.. Somehow, Joshua does have already some
loss against Ruiz and at least he do make out some positive words on it
https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/anthony-joshua-admits-the-truth-about-the-loss-to-andy-ruiz-jr-it-got-to-the-point-where-i-didnt-give-a-fk-about-the-sweet-science-i-was-just-coming-to-fight/

If he would lost to Tyson then i would presume he would be saying the same.

[Yaunfitda]

Hell, looking at the history of boxing on wikipedia, namely the statistics of heavyweights, I noticed something in common between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. They almost at the same time won the fights against Klitschko, which, in fact, put a fat point in his career. I thought that Klitschko was an unsurpassed fighter of his time, although it is not surprising that I thought so, given that he held the title for a total of 12 years. .. all the same, age takes its toll.

Anthony Joshua had an impressive win on Klitschko compared to Fury as Joshua were able to knock Klitschko down which is a very good fighter, it's just sad that Klitschko was not anymore on his prime that time but still prove that Joshua is a high caliber kind of boxer.

Right, Klitschko was no longer on his prime that time and it was like the passing of the torch. Because after that, Joshua took over the heavyweight division.

@milewilda - fighters always find a reason and excuse after they lost. But the thing with Joshua is that he was able to bounce back and win against Andy Ruiz in a rematch. We don't know though how he will take a lost against Fury because it is a domestic rivalry.

[TravelMug]

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So this is not only about losing, even if a boxer will win he can also feel depress? I never know that but I'm glad it's been shared. So probably the depression Wilder has been going through is more serious since this is coming from a big loss in their rematch and it might take time before he can accept which is the only way for him to recover from that depression.

Anyone can go into depression at any given moment. The pressure of an athlete or any celebrity is high as every move is scrutinized and talked about and when you are in the spotlight all the time you might start feeling the pressure and to overcome that they will start using drugs to ease up their nerves and then it will end up as an addiction which will destroy them. Tyson Fury came out and told his issues so that if anyone is going through the same issues his experience could help them recover from these depressions.

Yes, and that's why many athletes really succumb to their own success and became self-destruct just like what we witnessed of Wilder right now and evidently it is very serious, spewing allegations after allegations.

Anyways, the Joshua vs Fury will go down as one of the biggest Heavyweight fights we have. If not for Covid-19, I think it can break PPV numbers and live gate attendance, specially if it is going to be held in British soil.

[Natalim]

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So this is not only about losing, even if a boxer will win he can also feel depress? I never know that but I'm glad it's been shared. So probably the depression Wilder has been going through is more serious since this is coming from a big loss in their rematch and it might take time before he can accept which is the only way for him to recover from that depression.

Anyone can go into depression at any given moment. The pressure of an athlete or any celebrity is high as every move is scrutinized and talked about and when you are in the spotlight all the time you might start feeling the pressure and to overcome that they will start using drugs to ease up their nerves and then it will end up as an addiction which will destroy them. Tyson Fury came out and told his issues so that if anyone is going through the same issues his experience could help them recover from these depressions.

Yes, and that's why many athletes really succumb to their own success and became self-destruct just like what we witnessed of Wilder right now and evidently it is very serious, spewing allegations after allegations.

Anyways, the Joshua vs Fury will go down as one of the biggest Heavyweight fights we have. If not for Covid-19, I think it can break PPV numbers and live gate attendance, specially if it is going to be held in British soil.

What's the biggest PPV in the fight, was it Mayweather vs Pacman?

These are just predictions, we don't know yet how fans will treat this fight, IMO, it's a sure fight but I don't think it's popular enough to break the biggest PPV in boxing history. While the vaccine is already available, I guess with proper scheduling they can allow a gate entrance and this fight will generate a huge revenue from live audience.

[Fredomago]

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So this is not only about losing, even if a boxer will win he can also feel depress? I never know that but I'm glad it's been shared. So probably the depression Wilder has been going through is more serious since this is coming from a big loss in their rematch and it might take time before he can accept which is the only way for him to recover from that depression.

Anyone can go into depression at any given moment. The pressure of an athlete or any celebrity is high as every move is scrutinized and talked about and when you are in the spotlight all the time you might start feeling the pressure and to overcome that they will start using drugs to ease up their nerves and then it will end up as an addiction which will destroy them. Tyson Fury came out and told his issues so that if anyone is going through the same issues his experience could help them recover from these depressions.

What's good with Fury, he overcome his problem and move forward, look at him now, he continue his life
and he bring back what he achieved before.

With his guidance, he'll be basing everything from how he suffer, make a good example and extend a lifting hands  to provide hope.

It's been a while but that rematch that triggered wilders depressions needs to forget now,
wilder should move forward and keep himselves busy with something that will allow him
to move forward.

[Questat]

Hell, looking at the history of boxing on wikipedia, namely the statistics of heavyweights, I noticed something in common between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. They almost at the same time won the fights against Klitschko, which, in fact, put a fat point in his career. I thought that Klitschko was an unsurpassed fighter of his time, although it is not surprising that I thought so, given that he held the title for a total of 12 years. .. all the same, age takes its toll.

Anthony Joshua had an impressive win on Klitschko compared to Fury as Joshua were able to knock Klitschko down which is a very good fighter, it's just sad that Klitschko was not anymore on his prime that time but still prove that Joshua is a high caliber kind of boxer.

Yeah that's correct, I guess it's Fury first who fought Klitschko, Fury won then next is Joshua vs Klitschko, Joshua won.

Anyway, let's focus on the fight, it's Joshua vs Fury now and these are the best big man currently and they will surely give us an exciting fight, probably better than the Fury vs Wilder as both does work hard to win, hopefully no excuses like Wilder's thing after the fight.

Why i do have the feeling that Joshua will be making out some excuses or reasoning just like on what Wilder did?  Lol.. Somehow, Joshua does have already some
loss against Ruiz and at least he do make out some positive words on it
https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/anthony-joshua-admits-the-truth-about-the-loss-to-andy-ruiz-jr-it-got-to-the-point-where-i-didnt-give-a-fk-about-the-sweet-science-i-was-just-coming-to-fight/

If he would lost to Tyson then i would presume he would be saying the same.

I don't want to conclude yet, let's just see what will happen in the fight, most of us maybe think that Fury will beat AJ but we never know what's gonna happen because even if AJ will be the underdog in this fight but the the fact that these have not fought yet, I would say it's hard to guess.

What if AJ wins, what would be Tyson's excuses then?

[TravelMug]

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So this is not only about losing, even if a boxer will win he can also feel depress? I never know that but I'm glad it's been shared. So probably the depression Wilder has been going through is more serious since this is coming from a big loss in their rematch and it might take time before he can accept which is the only way for him to recover from that depression.

Anyone can go into depression at any given moment. The pressure of an athlete or any celebrity is high as every move is scrutinized and talked about and when you are in the spotlight all the time you might start feeling the pressure and to overcome that they will start using drugs to ease up their nerves and then it will end up as an addiction which will destroy them. Tyson Fury came out and told his issues so that if anyone is going through the same issues his experience could help them recover from these depressions.

Yes, and that's why many athletes really succumb to their own success and became self-destruct just like what we witnessed of Wilder right now and evidently it is very serious, spewing allegations after allegations.

Anyways, the Joshua vs Fury will go down as one of the biggest Heavyweight fights we have. If not for Covid-19, I think it can break PPV numbers and live gate attendance, specially if it is going to be held in British soil.

What's the biggest PPV in the fight, was it Mayweather vs Pacman?

These are just predictions, we don't know yet how fans will treat this fight, IMO, it's a sure fight but I don't think it's popular enough to break the biggest PPV in boxing history. While the vaccine is already available, I guess with proper scheduling they can allow a gate entrance and this fight will generate a huge revenue from live audience.

Yes, Mayweather vs Pacquiao still holds the record.

I'm saying for the Heavyweight division though, I think Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson or Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield holds the record for the division.

And again, this is all British fight, so I'm sure Brits are going to buy tickets to see the fight live or PPV. However, this pandemic really throws everything out of the window.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Yes, Mayweather vs Pacquiao still holds the record.

I'm saying for the Heavyweight division though, I think Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson or Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield holds the record for the division.

And again, this is all British fight, so I'm sure Brits are going to buy tickets to see the fight live or PPV. However, this pandemic really throws everything out of the window.

I don't know if this will break the heavyweight PPV record for most buys but with inflation it could probably generate more revenue. According to some rumors their combined purses could be over $100 million so they would have to sell a lot of PPV to make that money back. Without a doubt it will break the UK record even with a significant price increase from the typical PPV event.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Yes, Mayweather vs Pacquiao still holds the record.

I'm saying for the Heavyweight division though, I think Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson or Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield holds the record for the division.

And again, this is all British fight, so I'm sure Brits are going to buy tickets to see the fight live or PPV. However, this pandemic really throws everything out of the window.

I don't know if this will break the heavyweight PPV record for most buys but with inflation it could probably generate more revenue. According to some rumors their combined purses could be over $100 million so they would have to sell a lot of PPV to make that money back. Without a doubt it will break the UK record even with a significant price increase from the typical PPV event.

For sure UK record will be broken here, as this is a domestic fight and both are really hot in UK with a lot of fans, so they are willing to pay regardless how much will be the PPV of this fight. I agree that it can generate more with the current inflation rate we have. $100 million for a purses like this one is just but fair and I'm sure that with this magnitude of a fight, they can make that money back very easy.

[freedomgo]

Yes, Mayweather vs Pacquiao still holds the record.

I'm saying for the Heavyweight division though, I think Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson or Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield holds the record for the division.

And again, this is all British fight, so I'm sure Brits are going to buy tickets to see the fight live or PPV. However, this pandemic really throws everything out of the window.

I don't know if this will break the heavyweight PPV record for most buys but with inflation it could probably generate more revenue. According to some rumors their combined purses could be over $100 million so they would have to sell a lot of PPV to make that money back. Without a doubt it will break the UK record even with a significant price increase from the typical PPV event.

For sure UK record will be broken here, as this is a domestic fight and both are really hot in UK with a lot of fans, so they are willing to pay regardless how much will be the PPV of this fight. I agree that it can generate more with the current inflation rate we have. $100 million for a purses like this one is just but fair and I'm sure that with this magnitude of a fight, they can make that money back very easy.

I would be impressed if they will break the record because the situation has not been kind, we are in pandemic, people struggles financially as our economy is affected and if it breaks the ATH for biggest record then these two must be so special and they need to have a rematch in order to make more money.

[qwertyup23]

Anyone can go into depression at any given moment. The pressure of an athlete or any celebrity is high as every move is scrutinized and talked about and when you are in the spotlight all the time you might start feeling the pressure and to overcome that they will start using drugs to ease up their nerves and then it will end up as an addiction which will destroy them. Tyson Fury came out and told his issues so that if anyone is going through the same issues his experience could help them recover from these depressions.

I remember I watched a video in YouTube about Tyson Fury and his story about depression. He gained significant amount of weight and he fell into depression after falling positive in cocaine.

Quoting Tyson Fury's own words back in 2016:

I just don't want to live anymore, if you know what I’m saying. I've had total enough of it. Never mind cocaine. I just didn't care. I don't want to live anymore. So cocaine is a little minor thing compared to not wanting to live anymore. I am seeing help, but they can't do nothing for me. What I've got is incurable. I don't want to live. All the money in the world, fame and glory, means nothing if you're not happy.

What people mostly take for granted is that depression is not a choice. It is a sickness that people should be medically and psychologically treated. Depression is not also equated for being sad, it is just you feel like you are alone and worthless in the world. I really commend Tyson for fighting what he went through. I hope that people who has depression seek medical treatment and enjoy your family life!

[judeafante]

Anthony Joshua had an impressive win on Klitschko compared to Fury as Joshua were able to knock Klitschko down which is a very good fighter, it's just sad that Klitschko was not anymore on his prime that time but still prove that Joshua is a high caliber kind of boxer.

Fight comparison between Joshua and Tyson on Klitschko has no bearing anymore on their coming fights because both fighters have improved over the years, this is the fight all fight fans have been waiting for and whoever wins here will take all the belts including the lineal championship, and will put him as the best heavyweight of the current generation.

[Viscore]

Hell, looking at the history of boxing on wikipedia, namely the statistics of heavyweights, I noticed something in common between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. They almost at the same time won the fights against Klitschko, which, in fact, put a fat point in his career. I thought that Klitschko was an unsurpassed fighter of his time, although it is not surprising that I thought so, given that he held the title for a total of 12 years. .. all the same, age takes its toll.

Anthony Joshua had an impressive win on Klitschko compared to Fury as Joshua were able to knock Klitschko down which is a very good fighter, it's just sad that Klitschko was not anymore on his prime that time but still prove that Joshua is a high caliber kind of boxer.

Right, Klitschko was no longer on his prime that time and it was like the passing of the torch. Because after that, Joshua took over the heavyweight division.

@milewilda - fighters always find a reason and excuse after they lost. But the thing with Joshua is that he was able to bounce back and win against Andy Ruiz in a rematch. We don't know though how he will take a lost against Fury because it is a domestic rivalry.

No, he would not be like Wilder, even if Joshua will loss against Fury, he will be so happy as he makes a $100 million purse which is the biggest in his career as a boxer. Fury is the favorite to win the fight but Joshua can sure give Fury a hard time and could beat Fury, and I believe these two guys are professional enough to do a rematch or trilogy if necessary, no crying like what Wilder did.

[Masplanc]

Still surprised Anthony Joshua was defeated in the last Match nobody expected it.