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January 19, 2021, 09:53:45 AM |
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I usually assume such brokers want to provide very useful services that aren't available on betting sites they are promoting. I think such service could include helping those who are restricted for not meeting certain requirements that got them restricted on betting sites. If the brokers are able to provide safe/right betting environment for those who were unjustly/unfairly restricted for their own safety and the safety of others, then I think It might be ok to allow them to bet through the safe/responsible brokers. The minimum deposit amount is quite high. Sometimes I wonder what are their reasons for using high minimum. It can be unaffordable or very risky for certain people to deposit amount of money they consider big to risk .
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January 19, 2021, 10:24:51 AM Last edit: January 19, 2021, 12:16:20 PM by AicecreaME |
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I think betting illegal markets are less attractive to the majority of the players, so what OP meant I guess is the normal gambling sites only. Using a betting brokerage or a bet broker only gives you convenience and you could save time on betting multiple bets in your account according to this article. But of course it has fees as well, so you'll double up the money you're supposed to spend on betting only, that's why most of the players don't use this method.
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I don't really see a sensible use for a betting broker, especially since most of us here are probably just doing some small bet amounts on certain sports that we do like. Imagine giving a cut to the broker win or lose, that's just insane. Also, there is also this risk that the broker doesn't pay up in the event of a big win, so technically it's like giving your money away to someone whom you don't really know. Even if they offer juicy odds, that would easily be taken away from the cut that the broker will take if the bet wins, so in the end there aren't any juicy odds to begin with.
I wouldn't be using such a service, at all.
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January 19, 2021, 01:36:35 PM |
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~ There are gamblers, especially those hardcore sports bettors, who are strict in terms of choosing odds that even .5 to 1% increase matters. In fiat gambling, that was necessary. If you will look into odds comparison sites, they like to bet on the best odds they can get. It's not comfortable if they will sign up at different websites just to get the best odds. These gamblers want to have a sports betting account that can bet at the best odds in one click.
That's where using the broker is an advantage as right in front of their screen, they can choose from various websites offering a good deal.
For us, who are not used to use a betting broker, it will be easy to say that why do we need this if we can bet for ourselves.
It looks logical, but from all the replies I read in this thread not a single person said they are using, or were using, betting brokers. There is a good reason for that, imo. I personally would never use such "assistance", because it would turn the entertainment of betting into some kind of a job with all the associated headaches and stuff. What I want from gambling is relaxation, not yet another job. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 19, 2021, 02:51:55 PM |
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Marvelman and Slow death, I'm definitely not interested in illegal betting, and I agree that it seems wrong to use a broker to bet from a restricted jurisdiction (I think I pointed it out in my post, but since many wrote this question, I guess I didn't phrase it well). However, I'm not sure if it's explicitly against the ToS, I guess it depends on a casino. Not to mention that harizen and Darker45 say it's not cheating and is actually legal to do so. OgNasty, I agree about the real life, but online broker seems redundant to me.
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January 19, 2021, 08:46:04 PM |
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Not to mention that harizen and Darker45 say it's not cheating and is actually legal to do so.
Honestly in fiat sportsbook, websites are partnered with a broker site. It means all accounts that came from that broker are legit and sportsbook is aware of that. It's even an advantage to them since their platform is being advertised on that broker's website. In other words, it's not on sports betting site's jurisdiction anymore if they have players from their restricted countries that came directly by a broker site service. That makes it's legit.*** Also, there is also this risk that the broker doesn't pay up in the event of a big win, so technically it's like giving your money away to someone whom you don't really know.
I didn't understand your point here. Brokers are not individuals or a single person. It's not a transaction or deal that made via PM, DM, etc. They are a company and running a platform where you have an account dashboard etc. Also a big help for gamblers that can't access a specific gambling site in their country. Obviously, why should someone choose a non-popular sports broker? The process should be the same as how we looked for good and honest sportsbook sites. It's understandable though that most of us here are not showing interest in using a broker since we are in crypto gambling. But outside, that was a popular service in the gambling world. No need to put negative views if we are lack information about its advantages.
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January 19, 2021, 08:54:56 PM |
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There are pros in hiring betting broker, first is when online gambling is illegal in your country or if you're country is banned to a specific sports betting site. You can pay a broker to gamble for you and earn profits if his skilled in gambling. The downside maybe is the brokers fee, and the cost in hiring one plus you won't be able to enjoy gamble yourself.
when i gamble i want to feel the that im really gamble and i can do that with myself and i hate paying for more extra fees . broker is a no no for me and if theres a gambling site that are banned in my country why not look for a gambling site that are not banned ? but i think there is a certain country where all gambling sites and all forms of gambling are totally banned , they dont know what it feels like to gamble but they like to earn a profit and they will hire a broker
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January 19, 2021, 10:37:47 PM |
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There are pros in hiring betting broker, first is when online gambling is illegal in your country or if you're country is banned to a specific sports betting site. You can pay a broker to gamble for you and earn profits if his skilled in gambling. The downside maybe is the brokers fee, and the cost in hiring one plus you won't be able to enjoy gamble yourself.
when i gamble i want to feel the that im really gamble and i can do that with myself and i hate paying for more extra fees . broker is a no no for me and if theres a gambling site that are banned in my country why not look for a gambling site that are not banned ? but i think there is a certain country where all gambling sites and all forms of gambling are totally banned , they dont know what it feels like to gamble but they like to earn a profit and they will hire a broker Most of us definitely will not use a broker to gamble. However, as Sadlife mentioned, there are some gamblers who can't gamble due to their country's restrictions. So what they do is contact these brokers to do the betting for them. However, they need to be careful in selecting one, unless, you have a history already with that broker. Hard to trust a broker in my opinion. So lucky for those gamblers, who don't need any broker to gamble. We can really enjoy the game as well as we have the full control of our funds.
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January 19, 2021, 10:41:14 PM |
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There are pros in hiring betting broker, first is when online gambling is illegal in your country or if you're country is banned to a specific sports betting site. You can pay a broker to gamble for you and earn profits if his skilled in gambling. The downside maybe is the brokers fee, and the cost in hiring one plus you won't be able to enjoy gamble yourself.
when i gamble i want to feel the that im really gamble and i can do that with myself and i hate paying for more extra fees . broker is a no no for me and if theres a gambling site that are banned in my country why not look for a gambling site that are not banned ? but i think there is a certain country where all gambling sites and all forms of gambling are totally banned , they dont know what it feels like to gamble but they like to earn a profit and they will hire a broker Using a broker is not because we are banned to do it, people who have little knowledge in betting and need some guidance will usually use this. This kind of service really exists for a good reason and to help new bettors to enjoy their life in gambling. Well, fees are expected to see as they are acquiring such services. Known brokers will surely have a big share when you win. But I don't think it is really needed for us to have this when you are just a casual bettor and when you are not in gambling always(on/off). That to be an option and in my self, not probably acquiring this.
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January 19, 2021, 10:56:11 PM |
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There are many reasons why some gamblers have finally decided to use a betting broker. But I have been playing gambling for more than 5 years, and haven't thought of using a broker to replace me playing gambling. I still believe in my gambling skills, and also I can still access gambling sites. So there is no compelling reason for me to try to use a broker. After all, I only make gambling as entertainment, so getting profit from gambling is not my main goal for gambling. Until now I am not interested in using a broker.
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January 19, 2021, 11:55:05 PM |
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Two reasons naturally. First is that these brokers work well in countries with strict regulations regarding gambling. These gamblers allow them to pretty much experience the same freedom a person from a much more gambling-liberated country experiences. Number two, these brokers are well-experienced, moreso if it's an AI rather than let's say a regular gambler, so a typical gambler with little confidence over himself would hesitate on bigger gains where a broker wouldn't with of course, a slightly bigger odds at winning.
Hopefully these guys who've been a broker for so many years won't do bad on their clients as well. Because when it involves money, that's really an evil thing specially on people who had dark sides about gambling. I don't say in general, but we have to be careful for so many strangers even though bigger odds awaits on that betting investments.
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January 20, 2021, 01:57:56 AM |
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Two reasons naturally. First is that these brokers work well in countries with strict regulations regarding gambling. These gamblers allow them to pretty much experience the same freedom a person from a much more gambling-liberated country experiences. Number two, these brokers are well-experienced, moreso if it's an AI rather than let's say a regular gambler, so a typical gambler with little confidence over himself would hesitate on bigger gains where a broker wouldn't with of course, a slightly bigger odds at winning.
Hopefully these guys who've been a broker for so many years won't do bad on their clients as well. Because when it involves money, that's really an evil thing specially on people who had dark sides about gambling. I don't say in general, but we have to be careful for so many strangers even though bigger odds awaits on that betting investments. I hope that too, and they can hold the money, take care of it for the winner, and distribute the win money to the winner. But if we doubt that services, we don't have to use betting broker, and especially we now have a sports betting using crypto, which can help us use our money to gamble without help from the third-party services. Besides that, if we use crypto to gamble, we can have a chance to manage our funds, and we can know how much money we can use to gamble.
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January 20, 2021, 02:38:26 PM |
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Thanks for the discussion so far! From what I see, betting brokers are popular in real-life fiat betting because it's easy to go to a nearby location and tell someone what you want to bet on, so that they place the bet for you where the most attractive odds are offered. This is an option for serious gamblers because small deposits don't seem to be accepted by betting brokers. In the world of online crypto betting, however, this service seems way less popular, and it's even hard to find someone who tried it.
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January 20, 2021, 07:16:33 PM |
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Overall, is it really worth it? Have you ever used a broker and do you think it's truly useful and profitable to do so?
Contrary to popular belief, betting brokers are really essential in various ways, legal or illegal. Many gambling platform often restrict users based on their scope on countries supported and this comes a benefit of using a broker, whereas you still can control your possible winnings -- only changed is that you are using a middleman or a platform that serves as a middleman -- which can only be illegal if and only if the platform/middleman isn't licensed nor registered in conducting its broker-like offers. However, I haven't tried using one, but would soon as it could somehow save you time yet gives you a huge possibility of wins as well -- a lowkey win-win situation.
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January 20, 2021, 07:28:13 PM |
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Thanks for the discussion so far! From what I see, betting brokers are popular in real-life fiat betting because it's easy to go to a nearby location and tell someone what you want to bet on, so that they place the bet for you where the most attractive odds are offered. This is an option for serious gamblers because small deposits don't seem to be accepted by betting brokers. In the world of online crypto betting, however, this service seems way less popular, and it's even hard to find someone who tried it.
So far i havent seen one and not really that much of a common service even on typical or real life i havent encountered with this betting broker or something alike. If thats the case then this would really be a big convenient when someone do really make out a bet for you and showing or telling off the best odds but in general sense that why would really be needing this stuff if you can really do it on your own?
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I have never used the services of a betting broker because it always seemed to me that only newbies use such services and to be honest I have a negative attitude towards trust management. In my opinion, it is a completely unnecessary link between the gambling site and the player.
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I have never used the services of a betting broker because it always seemed to me that only newbies use such services and to be honest I have a negative attitude towards trust management. In my opinion, it is a completely unnecessary link between the gambling site and the player.
Can't believed that after all the discussion here, that's your thought about a betting broker. I respect your opinion but.. Contrary to your belief, not newbies but professional gamblers always use a betting broker service. And if you have a negative attitude towards trust management, then just apply your way on how you select a good service as on any website. There's no linking of a gambling site to a player here. It's a tool that a casual sports bettor won't understand.
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No, and I don't think that gamblers should use any brokers because many of them come from a jurisdiction where gambling is prohibited and they still do it. When they have ways to verify and get paid in crypto when they withdraw, I don't think they need any intermediaries because that will expose them to even threats like their finances being known by a stranger who may turn out to be a Government agent and they may be in trouble some time later.
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Haven't tried a betting broker site before because I have direct access to my favorite betting site and I don't play on high odds, I'm just a casual betting type of person who does small-time bets. This broker is mostly helpful for those who got issues accessing the betting site or wanting to have higher odds on their bets. I don't know if I need their service, Maybe if our country restricts us.
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Never used one but i've heard a lot of good things about betting brokers. I imagined it being like a betting exchange but even better, one day I was very close to opening an account with a betting broker because of how good the lines they've offered plus they didn't require KYC but I eventually lost interest as i'm satisfied with the sportsbooks i'm currently using.
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