Sales of bitcointalk account must be discouraged

[Ryushin]

There are many things that make this whole buying accounts so wrong, have you guys ever wondered reading a Sr member or full members posts and it does looks like a newbie in work? Yes ive seen this many times before, the thing is it doesn't help the newbies, in fact it will create problems for them

1. Those accounts can have criminal records that's still yet to be revealed

2. The account might have been used to cheat in bounties before and may get banned one day

3. It doesn't help you as a newbie because people won't look you as a newbie, there are few members that are willing to help newbies more but if they see ranked members they will believe you don't need  such lessons ..

In short you are doing yourself, just like shooting yourself in the leg

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[GeorgeJohn]

which we know that account sold to another user can cause different issues to whom that bought it

Buyers take risk and they deserve any consequence at the ends.

Account selling has more consequence for the forum and forum members: spam, scam, loan default, troll, etc. Those consequences are bigger than anything will happen with buyers.

these you portray here is known to everyone, because is like people don't know the implications that is behind buying wrong account, I noticed that is the reason some of them keep on purchasing used account, OK if I many ask, what are the major reason some people purchase account, the only answer is no reason, while their objectives to buy grown account is to join signature campaign from my perspective, so i think their is no other reason purchasing account have to be done in the community.

[BITCOIN4X]

Account selling has more consequence for the forum and forum members: spam, scam, loan default, troll, etc. Those consequences are bigger than anything will happen with buyers.

True, it is for this reason that I think there are some DT members who mark the account as untrustworthy or an account for sale. This is a form of support for the forum as a symbol of farm account prevention which will effectively prevent a lot of spam on the forum.
All purchased account that join the bounty are very indifferent to the quality of their post and this is the reason a beginner does not deserve to manage a highly rated account he bought because his knowledge does not match his current account rank. The most obvious result is spam post, low-quality post, and finally the account is banned.

[akirasendo17]

yes it should be discouraged not only it's dangerous, but its also shameful pretending you really own the account but in reality, you just bought it, there is no feeling of satisfaction, for me if you start from scratch to a legendary position, that's the greatest achievement, and proud of what you have reached, imagine someone asks you of a certain topic and you can't even answer, you don't know how to make a topic, why because you don't know since you just bought the account.

[20kevin20]

yes it should be discouraged not only it's dangerous, but its also shameful pretending you really own the account but in reality, you just bought it, there is no feeling of satisfaction, for me if you start from scratch to a legendary position, that's the greatest achievement, and proud of what you have reached, imagine someone asks you of a certain topic and you can't even answer, you don't know how to make a topic, why because you don't know since you just bought the account.

When someone's post quality drops all of a sudden and so does their grammar and knowledge spectrum, it becomes quite obvious that the account has been either purchased or sold by someone else. I personally think it's some kind of karma to purchase an account hoping just to earn bucks off the forum, only to find yourself banned by the forum administration.

It should be a passion to talk & stay here in your free time - coming on the forum strictly for the payments makes it less fun and more annoying for both you as the account buyer and for everyone else having to waste their time reading nonsense..

[Smartvirus]

Most beginners hate to go through the stage of building an account. They are often in a haste to make money through signature campaign and other means available to ranked up accounts of the forum that they forget that, it takes experience to keep you going and to understand the things of this forum.

If i understand rule 18 correctly as carried by the thread, it says, this activity with regards to account sales is not illegal but, its discouraged for obvious reasons not far from the ones given above. and that's the truth, of what will it profit you to be vois of experience to operate a ranked up account that would end up being banned. Don't be so fast to walk the broad way out of the forum, it would profit yiu more to learn the ways of the forum first.

[Lucius]

yes it should be discouraged not only it's dangerous, but its also shameful pretending you really own the account but in reality, you just bought it, there is no feeling of satisfaction, for me if you start from scratch to a legendary position, that's the greatest achievement, and proud of what you have reached...

You should know that buying/selling accounts before 2015 was a completely normal thing, it was just one commodity on the forum that had its price. But in the first years of the forum, there was certainly not such a great interest in BTC, so this kind of activity was not a problem.

The fact that this activity has been discouraged for at least some 5 years or more does not mean anything to those who see it as a profit, and there is no difference in being officially banned. People will always find a way to achieve their goal, if not through this forum, then with the help of some other platforms as is the case with selling BTT accounts.

Of course there are people who have very high moral principles and it is completely unacceptable for them to pretend to be the real owners of something they bought - but there are also those who will do much worse things than pretend to achieve their goal.

[Daniel91]

yes it should be discouraged not only it's dangerous, but its also shameful pretending you really own the account but in reality, you just bought it, there is no feeling of satisfaction, for me if you start from scratch to a legendary position, that's the greatest achievement, and proud of what you have reached...

You should know that buying/selling accounts before 2015 was a completely normal thing, it was just one commodity on the forum that had its price. But in the first years of the forum, there was certainly not such a great interest in BTC, so this kind of activity was not a problem.

The fact that this activity has been discouraged for at least some 5 years or more does not mean anything to those who see it as a profit, and there is no difference in being officially banned. People will always find a way to achieve their goal, if not through this forum, then with the help of some other platforms as is the case with selling BTT accounts.

Of course there are people who have very high moral principles and it is completely unacceptable for them to pretend to be the real owners of something they bought - but there are also those who will do much worse things than pretend to achieve their goal.

When it comes to earning money, many will give up both morals and ethics, and also break the rules if they will benefit materially from it..
Unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world and due to the popularity of bitcoin and the greed of some new members, things like this will continue to happen.

[Eco_111]

You can easily tell if a high rank account belongs to the one making posts, I've seen too many before that no doubt they bought the account, the truth about this is you are throwing away some knowledge that can be acquired if you start from scratch, buying account won't help you in many areas

[FIFA worldcup]

yes it should be discouraged not only it's dangerous, but its also shameful pretending you really own the account but in reality, you just bought it, there is no feeling of satisfaction, for me if you start from scratch to a legendary position, that's the greatest achievement, and proud of what you have reached, imagine someone asks you of a certain topic and you can't even answer, you don't know how to make a topic, why because you don't know since you just bought the account.

In most of the cases, you will not know that the high rank accounts like legendary or hero members are purchased by anyone. In most of the cases, the buyers of such account are already on the forum for long time and they would know how to answer, create topics and every basic things about bitcointalk.
A newbie on the forum will never buy the account.

[Taskford]

There are so many risk beneath upon buying an account for some several users since they can possibly used it for scamming or other abuse they can made on this forum that's why its heavily discourage to do by many users here. And for some people who think about doing it maybe they should stop for doing that since instead if they can use that it will be neg tag by DT members if they found out about the case.

You can easily tell if a high rank account belongs to the one making posts, I've seen too many before that no doubt they bought the account, the truth about this is you are throwing away some knowledge that can be acquired if you start from scratch, buying account won't help you in many areas

It's easy to spot a bought account if for example the old habit of the user is they post from Russian board and suddenly it post on different local sub boards.

[Marvelman]

It's easy to spot a bought account if for example the old habit of the user is they post from Russian board and suddenly it post on different local sub boards.

Yeah. Also, change in writing style and big gaps in posting history are the most common dead giveaway that someone has been hacked or the account has changed owner in some other way.

[Oshosondy]

This thread should always be alive to be accessible by the newbies on this forum which like to buy bitcointalk account and do not want to build their own, I created this thread when I have getting to knowing more about bitcointalk and noticed many newbies have been scammed by account sellers, also that bought accounts are easy to know because newbies are easy to know. What happen to newbies is that they do not know about this forum, they spam or plagiarized and their bought account is banned which lead to money loss. Build your own account, this forum is not more than good posts and enjoy here with other good posters about bitcoin and other interesting boards.

[Huppercase]

This is insightful and detailed with guidelines for newbie, to avoid future problems, one must avoid any the mentioned mistakes in bought accounts.
There is no point in buying accounts when you can just create one and contribute to the forum and the more you try, the recognize you become and also rank up.

[cheezcarls]

I still see some people on Telegram and Facebook who are announcing their intentions in selling their higher rank Bitcointalk accounts. It can be easily flagged and be given a red tag as everyone here could see the difference of the posts from the past to the time after the account was bought.

There is no shortcut to success guys. You’ve got to earn it and it all starts by going from scratch.

[Coyster]

There is no point in buying accounts when you can just create one and contribute to the forum and the more you try, the recognize you become and also rank up.

The thing is that account sellers have zero intentions of contributing to the forum, they basically are just concerned about making money out of it, and that's why they involve themselves in buying accounts to make it easy for them, though that's an erroneous believe. Mind you that even with bought accounts, account buyers still struggle to contribute to the forum as they have little or no knowledge about most of the discussions going on in the forum, so they either end up as spammers or maybe even scammers. Account buyers know they will not rank up if they start from scratch and that's why they indulge in such, but they are somewhat easy to fish out, that's the good part of it all.

[Fullcoinese]

This thread should always be alive to be accessible by the newbies on this forum which like to buy bitcointalk account and do not want to build their own, I created this thread when I have getting to knowing more about bitcointalk and noticed many newbies have been scammed by account sellers, also that bought accounts are easy to know because newbies are easy to know. What happen to newbies is that they do not know about this forum, they spam or plagiarized and their bought account is banned which lead to money loss. Build your own account, this forum is not more than good posts and enjoy here with other good posters about bitcoin and other interesting boards.

I agree with your main point and the reason why I prefer to build an account from scratch is because it shows that I can as long as there is will, effort and patience.

I still see some people on Telegram and Facebook who are announcing their intentions in selling their higher rank Bitcointalk accounts. It can be easily flagged and be given a red tag as everyone here could see the difference of the posts from the past to the time after the account was bought.
There is no shortcut to success guys. You’ve got to earn it and it all starts by going from scratch.

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[Lucius]

Mind you that even with bought accounts, account buyers still struggle to contribute to the forum as they have little or no knowledge about most of the discussions going on in the forum, so they either end up as spammers or maybe even scammers.

Although most people think that BTT accounts are bought only by beginners, I don't think so - because greed has a really big appetite and is not reserved only for beginners and third world countries. Of course, if a beginner buys a Senior or Hero account and starts writing nonsense, or suddenly pops up in some local board where that account was never posted, that is quite enough to arouse reasonable suspicion.

But if a BTT account is bought by someone experienced, he certainly won’t make such stupid mistakes - a good impersonator can fool everyone, though maybe not forever. Sometimes until 2015, the sale and purchase of BTT accounts were allowed, and today no one forbids it either - forum only discourages others from doing that.

[_BlackStar]

Friends, let's see which account in this list are no longer owned by their original owners. It's easy enough to detect it and just ask the user whose status is just woke up, change the email and change the password to sign the message. One indicator that they have changed hands is not being able to sign messages. So, are we going to find them more this time?

[TheNineClub]

It must be discouraged, but I am not sure if it can be stoped. This is not a bad post, but the pessimist in me thinks that people who will buy these accounts will see this post and then rethink their strategy, maybe invest into learning the ruleset and then continue with said account. SO at the end, it might be harder to catch them. Again, that's a pessimistic way of looking but I can't help it.