Who give us Justice?

[shamimal93]

Me and Tamim121 are two brother. We are bounty hunter.
YOSHIE give us red trust without valid reason. Please see this link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311944.msg56176782#msg56176782

Few days ago he did same thing. That time we proved that these account are not alt.
See this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287174.msg55550631#msg55550631

I Don't know why he doing this!!
Can any wise man give us Justice?

[YOSHIE]

Forums have rules.
Campaigns have rules.
The first has been commemorated.

Now it's happening again.
Justice has been decided, the trial is closed.

In the previous time YOSHIE give us red trust and showed this reference. After proving it normal he removed the red trust.

You think we're a bunch of fucking morons, or what?

For this reason I replace it with neutral, so that you can continue school.
If you remain strict and do not comply with forum rules and campaigns involving Alt accounts in one campaign, I will add red trust back to you, Based on the violations you have committed in this forum.
Nothing prohibits you from having multiple accounts, but obey the rules of future campaigns and forums.

You are actually lucky that Yoshie only gave your account(s) a neutral tag, which should be considered a warning. You can still continue in bounties with a neutral trust but I recommend that all account don't enroll in the same bounties or sig campaigns in the future.

Okay sir. I will remind that. Also your kindness. I will not do anything wrong in the future. Thanks a ton.

The judge has already pronounced a verdict on the offense that was committed.

now you are serving the punishment for what you did.
thanks for looking for justice.

[shamimal93]

Forums have rules.
Campaigns have rules.
The first has been commemorated.

Now it's happening again.
Justice has been decided, the trial is closed.

In the previous time YOSHIE give us red trust and showed this reference. After proving it normal he removed the red trust.

You think we're a bunch of fucking morons, or what?

For this reason I replace it with neutral, so that you can continue school.
If you remain strict and do not comply with forum rules and campaigns involving Alt accounts in one campaign, I will add red trust back to you, Based on the violations you have committed in this forum.
Nothing prohibits you from having multiple accounts, but obey the rules of future campaigns and forums.

You are actually lucky that Yoshie only gave your account(s) a neutral tag, which should be considered a warning. You can still continue in bounties with a neutral trust but I recommend that all account don't enroll in the same bounties or sig campaigns in the future.

Okay sir. I will remind that. Also your kindness. I will not do anything wrong in the future. Thanks a ton.

The judge has already pronounced a verdict on the offense that was committed.

If its my fault then 90℅ of bounty hunter are wrong.
90℅ of hunter participate the same bounty.
Are they all alt account YOSHIE?

You think we're a bunch of fucking morons, or what?

Your language are so nasty YOSHIE.
SHAME ON YOU.

[actmyname]

If its my fault then 90℅ of bounty hunter are wrong.
90℅ of hunter participate the same bounty.
Are they all alt account YOSHIE?

Nice deflection. Just kidding, not really. What do other bounty hunters have to do with your situation? Nothing. You want to expose them? Do it: you'd be doing us a favor.

You think we're a bunch of fucking morons, or what?

Your language are so nasty YOSHIE.
SHAME ON YOU.

Are you such a shitposter that you are unable to properly read quotes? No wonder you went for the "my brother" excuse.

[stompix]

YOSHIE give us red trust without valid reason.
Please see this link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311944.msg56176782#msg56176782

I see plenty of reasons there

Few days ago he did same thing. That time we proved that these account are not alt.
See this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287174.msg55550631#msg55550631

Where did you prove anything?

As far as I see from the discussion you have been tagged once two months ago on those findings and Yoshie decided to make the tag neutral, he told you that if all of you again join the same bounty campaign he will change it to red.
Is this right?

Checking your brother's Twitter account seems that Twitter itself thinks you're cheating since it restricted your account (edit,  did I just say your? sorry, your bother's account)

Twitter profile link: https://www.twitter.com/Tamim1121

[YOSHIE]

You think we're a bunch of fucking morons, or what?

Your language are so nasty YOSHIE.
SHAME ON YOU.

It wasn't me who said it..!

I am very ashamed, because you do not change, do the same mistakes.

Not 90%, the account here is said to be an Alt account and register in the campaign, some obey the rules, some are not ashamed, like you said.

[shamimal93]

If its my fault then 90℅ of bounty hunter are wrong.
90℅ of hunter participate the same bounty.
Are they all alt account YOSHIE?

Nice deflection. Just kidding, not really. What do other bounty hunters have to do with your situation? Nothing. You want to expose them? Do it: you'd be doing us a favor.

You think we're a bunch of fucking morons, or what?

Your language are so nasty YOSHIE.
SHAME ON YOU.

Are you such a shitposter that you are unable to properly read quotes? No wonder you went for the "my brother" excuse.

You all are same.
I have no alt account.
You all support YOSHIE because he is hero member.
Shame on you all.

YOSHIE give us red trust without valid reason.
Please see this link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311944.msg56176782#msg56176782

I see plenty of reasons there

Few days ago he did same thing. That time we proved that these account are not alt.
See this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287174.msg55550631#msg55550631

Where did you prove anything?

As far as I see from the discussion you have been tagged once two months ago on those findings and Yoshie decided to make the tag neutral, he told you that if all of you again join the same bounty campaign he will change it to red.
Is this right?

Checking your brother's Twitter account seems that Twitter itself thinks you're cheating since it restricted your account (edit,  did I just say your? sorry, your bother's account)

Twitter profile link: https://www.twitter.com/Tamim1121

Shame on you the legendary.
You all are same.
You have no Justice.
Good luck...


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[actmyname]

You all are same.
I have no alt account.

Let me be generous for one small aside.

If two users on the forum share the same wallet address, how do prove that they are different identities, never mind different people?
Suppose I share an address and contact details with YOSHIE - if I simply say, "that's my brother," is that sufficient to show that I am not him?

If you think about this for more than 5 seconds, then you'll understand.

You all support YOSHIE because he is hero member.
Shame on you all.

They're still only a hero member? What a fucking loser! He'll never get into the DefaultTrust cult at this point.

Shame on you the legendary.
You all are same.
You have no Justice.
Good luck...

What is justice, anyway? Is it double-posting and breaking forum rules? Is it believing someone purely based on a textual response? Or is it in reality a blanket word that has no real meaning, which you use as rhetoric to push a connotation onto your detractors? You say these words but I'm not sure you even know what you're saying.

[Stalker22]

You think we're a bunch of fucking morons, or what?

Your language are so nasty YOSHIE Stalker22.
SHAME ON YOU.

What are you, a nun? Read those fucking quotes properly!  
There, I fixed it for you.

As for your justice, you got exactly what you deserved.
Now, give me some time to dig up your other alt accounts. I'm pretty sure you've got more 'relatives' on this forum.

[shamimal93]

Moderators please suspend me from this fucking forum.
In this forum all are broker


Hate all fucker broker.

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[Stalker22]

Tui j bal falaite paros fala
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Btw, can anyone translate this... Or maybe I don't even want to know that?  

[actmyname]

You'd better read the forum rules before posting. Serious trolls and spammers will certainly be banned from the forum.

He asked for it. Might as well oblige:

Moderators please suspend me from this fucking forum.
In this forum all are broker

I guess he's made enough from his bounty spam and is ready to retire from the forum with his riches. I never knew bounty farming was such a luxurious lifestyle.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

OP, the bottom line is that very few senior members here like bounty hunters very much, and don't trust them not to be greedy little cheaters.  There's a reason for that mistrust: bounty hunters have been caught left and right cheating with alts in bounties since the beginning of bounties. 

Also, trust isn't moderated and it isn't likely anyone is going to stand up for you and give you a counter-positive.  It wouldn't matter unless they were on DT anyway, and you aren't likely to garner any sympathy from DT members.  Just suck it up and move on.  You think there's been a miscarriage of justice, but I'm guessing not many members are going to chime in here and agree with you.

[DireWolfM14]

This really is a sad state of affairs.  On one hand the established members of this forum have heard so many lame excuses about bounty cheating that they're unlikely to believe them ever again.  On the other hand those "excuses" could be factual and legitimate.

Take the address connections, for example:  With tx and gas fees as high as they've been for the last several months, I don't doubt that brothers, friends, neighbors would consolidate their token dust to save a bit on gas or withdrawal fees.  In fact I would recommend it, it's only the smart thing to do.  Gas fees these days could pay for a family meal in many parts of the world.  Someone mentioned that these accounts were using links to the same social media accounts, but I didn't see that.  Did I miss it?  If they are indeed telling the truth, then this implementation of "Mob Justice" is just as damaging to the forum as any bounty spammer.  If not more.  

But how do we know whether they are being honest?  One of these accounts suggested sharing their national ID cards, but would that satisfy the critics?  I wouldn't believe any ID posted on this forum is legit, but maybe he was being honest and was actually willing to dox himself.  Is that where we want to go?  If I was accused of cheating a campaign with an alt and someone suggested I share my dox to prove my innocence, I'd tell you all to take a flying fuck!

As for the bounty campaigns, they exist.  The forum admin have refused to ban the practice, and it looks like it's here to stay.  Good, bad, or indifferent, many members join the forum only because of these campaigns, and as such there's a place for them here, even if many of us tire of the spam and bounty reports.  I didn't come here anticipating to earn rewards for my participation, but yet here I am registered in well-paying signature campaign.  Wouldn't it be hypocritical of my to deny the same opportunity to others because of my perception of the facts?

Having said all that, in situations like this I would prefer to apply my vision of true justice:  Immutable facts, and unquestionable evidence.  I don't see that presented in this case.  So, innocent until proven until proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, to be guilty.  I understand that's a hard-line stance, and justice on an internet forum isn't the same thing as justice in real life.  But if justice is what we strive for then it deserves a hard-line stance.

[shamimal93]

I frequently tell that i have no alt account. But no one want to understand that. Please check our all id. I can submit my national id to prove it.
Is it valid reason to give red Trust?
Isn’t it horrible thing for this forum?
I have no multi accounts.

[Vod]

Moderators please suspend me from this fucking forum.

Why are you still posting?   Change your password and don't remember it. 

[Bitcoin_Arena]

In this forum all are broker

Say's a person who's so bitter about his main source of income getting busted.

I do have a question OP, I do see YOSHIE tried to give you a second chance. Why did you go ahead and enroll the same accounts in the same campaign again?

Here, there's no way of proving if it's actually your brother's account or just your other alt so the best thing you would have done is avoid enrolling in campaigns or bounties your "brother" has already enrolled in.

[shamimal93]

Moderators please suspend me from this fucking forum.

Why are you still posting?   Change your password and don't remember it. 

Can you give me another red trust?
That will be the valid reason.
How to claim more red trust? Please let me know.

[YOSHIE]

Can you give me another red trust?
That will be the valid reason.
How to claim more red trust? Please let me know.

If I judge this the words of people who are desperate, for the mistakes they have committed.

I hope you are fine at this time, don't ever, go to a mental hospital, what else is suicide.

Actually you know what you were doing at that time, it was wrong, but you didn't care, did the umpteenth mistake, you thought we were all cockroaches.

You can still use other Alt accounts in this forum, what you need to remind and the most valuable lesson for yourself is: "never make the same mistake again".

If you keep doing the same thing, that means: you yourself are looking for disease for yourself, lust, greed, can destroy yourself, control it all.

[lovesmayfamilis]

You can still use other Alt accounts in this forum, what you need to remind and the most valuable lesson for yourself is: "never make the same mistake again".

If you keep doing the same thing, that means: you yourself are looking for disease for yourself, lust, greed, can destroy yourself, control it all.

And here the question always arises. If one account has a red trust, what might change if he opens a second account?
Does this person change his head, arms, legs? Why does the forum treat those who once broke the rules so? Everyone becomes blind if they see a new account, but realize that they know its owner, previously tagged?
Perhaps you should at least give people a warning that this account had previously had violations, and should you trust them at your discretion?
In the case of these two heroes, there is plagiarism, which, according to the rules of the forum, carries a permanent ban.